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Title: 9MM SUBCOMPACTS: SINGLE VS. DOUBLE STACK
Post by: Elderberry on July 17, 2018, 01:00:10 am
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The great debates of the firearms community; AR-15 vs. AK-47, Striker-Fired vs. Hammer, Magazine vs. Clip and now Single Stack vs. Double Stack for concealed carry.

The past several years have seen an explosion in slim, subcompact handguns using a single stack magazine. As concealed carry for personal defense grows in popularity in the United States each year, there has been a movement towards smaller, lighter, and more concealable guns. Handgun size options have expanded from full size, to compact, to subcompact and even micro.

In the subcompact classification, guns like the Glock 26 were shortened versions of full size guns with a considerably shorter grip. However, they retain the double stack magazines which add to the width of the gun. Shooters wanted smaller guns and the industry has responded with a series of new designs like Smith & Wesson’s Shield series, Springfield Armory’s XDs series, and the Glock 43 which all use single stack magazines to achieve their smaller size. While these guns provide superior concealability, that comes at a cost of reduced capacity and potentially accuracy.

The self-defense community has become increasingly polarized as to which of the designs is best. One camp favors concealability and the other capacity. So which type should you get? Unless you already fall into one of those camps, what you choose will depend on what works best for you.

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Title: Re: 9MM SUBCOMPACTS: SINGLE VS. DOUBLE STACK
Post by: txradioguy on July 24, 2018, 08:04:16 pm
I'm in the double stack sub compact group.

I've got the P365.  Thinner than a G43 with up to 13 rounds.
Title: Re: 9MM SUBCOMPACTS: SINGLE VS. DOUBLE STACK
Post by: Meldrew on July 24, 2018, 08:48:40 pm
I don't see them as mutually exclusive.  Why not one of each?
Title: Re: 9MM SUBCOMPACTS: SINGLE VS. DOUBLE STACK
Post by: Bigun on July 24, 2018, 09:22:54 pm
I don't see them as mutually exclusive.  Why not one of each?

I'm leaning toward that myself.   Currently carry a single stack Xds but really want a P365.
Title: Re: 9MM SUBCOMPACTS: SINGLE VS. DOUBLE STACK
Post by: NavyCanDo on July 29, 2018, 04:19:25 am
Single stack .45 for me.   Fights over quickly.  Prefer a single stack for concealed carry because it hits far better and is light enough to forget it's there.    XDs mod2 .45
Title: Re: 9MM SUBCOMPACTS: SINGLE VS. DOUBLE STACK
Post by: sneakypete on July 29, 2018, 04:49:22 pm
single stack,double action only,loaded with ball ammo if in .380 caliber.  You never need a weapon like this until you desperately need it,so keep it simple and don't have things like safeties or double stack magazines to make it slower to use and harder to conceal. If you can't do with with the 6 or more rounds available in a single stack magazine,you ain't going to be able to do it with 14 rounds.

I personally carry a 5 shot 44 Special revolver with double action only,no hammer spur or rear sight that is loaded with 200 grain hollowpoints. By the time I run out of ammo there won't be a problem,or there will be at least one loaded gun laying around with nobody using it.
Title: Re: 9MM SUBCOMPACTS: SINGLE VS. DOUBLE STACK
Post by: sneakypete on July 29, 2018, 04:52:05 pm
Single stack .45 for me.   Fights over quickly.  Prefer a single stack for concealed carry because it hits far better and is light enough to forget it's there.    XDs mod2 .45

@NavyCanDo

You just can't go wrong with a 1911A1. I have several,and my all-steel Combat Commander that I modified was my favorite carry gun before I bought the 44 Special. The only real advantages of the 44 Revolver is it is smaller,lighter, and easier to conceal than the 1911.
Title: Re: 9MM SUBCOMPACTS: SINGLE VS. DOUBLE STACK
Post by: NavyCanDo on July 30, 2018, 03:53:07 am
@NavyCanDo

You just can't go wrong with a 1911A1. I have several,and my all-steel Combat Commander that I modified was my favorite carry gun before I bought the 44 Special. The only real advantages of the 44 Revolver is it is smaller,lighter, and easier to conceal than the 1911.

For a bedside firearm, I agree, but I like nobody to know there is a .45 below my shirt, and I like to cary and forget and the 1 inch wide XDs fits my needs perfectly.    My bedside is a XDm. .45.
Title: Re: 9MM SUBCOMPACTS: SINGLE VS. DOUBLE STACK
Post by: verga on August 29, 2018, 03:33:54 pm
For me it depends on 1) What I am wearing.
2) Where am I going.
If I am fully dressed and going to out for more than several hours, double stack.
On the other hand, shorts and a T-shirt on a bike ride or run, single stack.
Title: Re: 9MM SUBCOMPACTS: SINGLE VS. DOUBLE STACK
Post by: AmericanaPrime on August 29, 2018, 03:42:47 pm
Single. Every millimeter of thickness i can shave off the better.

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Title: Re: 9MM SUBCOMPACTS: SINGLE VS. DOUBLE STACK
Post by: txradioguy on August 29, 2018, 04:41:41 pm
I don't see them as mutually exclusive.  Why not one of each?

I agree.  I have single and double stack pistols. Each have their own advantages and disadvantages.
Title: Re: 9MM SUBCOMPACTS: SINGLE VS. DOUBLE STACK
Post by: sneakypete on August 29, 2018, 05:37:23 pm
Single stack. If you need more than 5 or 6 shots you should have saved one for yourself.

Besides,if your attacker is close enough to be a threat to you,he is close enough to put one through a eye socket. Even a 115gr 9mm will instantly pull the plug on your attacker if you put the bullet in the brain pan.

Any more than 5 or 6 rounds is just dead weight to carry unless you are fighting an actual battle,and then you should be carrying a battle rifle.