Fact is, automakers are pulling back in the EV market and pouring more into hybrids and low emission ICE engines. While this is dismaying to the Tesla nerds and their not-as-cool other EV brand loyalists, the truth is the average consumer doesn’t want an EV, and that isn't gonna change anytime soon.

Found myself behind a HUMMER EV this morning at a red light in Annapolis, Maryland.

Wondering how often it has to be charged...lugging that weight. 

I told you up thread. Car co's  secretly want EV's because they take only  1/3 of the labor and 1/2 the parts to build.

@banddag

My question wasn't about EVs.  It was about electricity storage for EVs.  So again, can you help me understand your advocacy for federal mandates and subsidies for EV battery manufacturers when hydrogen tanks used to store electricity are significantly lighter, cheaper, more economical, and have far less environmental impact than batteries?

Mark Noonan:
"The West will return to Christianity or it will become Muslim.
Secular liberalism is a false god and it has failed."

Mr. Noonan has in two sentences laid out the future for the whites of the Earth.
There really isn't going to be any other path forward...

(...unless the Chinese communists step in to build it)

Still waiting for your response, @banddag

I told you up thread. Car co's  secretly want EV's because they take only  1/3 of the labor and 1/2 the parts to build. Why the biggest contentions between unions and the car co's at the last strike was mostly about EV's and loss of union jobs in the future. A union plant  in Toledo OH makes nothing but fuel rails for GM. 90 employees.  Those jobs will be gone with EV's.

Toyota or Honda can't remember, said they will save billions each year in warranty work alone with EV's -no fuel, emissions, ignition, coolant problems to deal with. Ev motors have one moving part and most motors will easily last a million miles according to Tesla.

Yes, I believe hybrids will be popular for a while until the EV kinks get worked out. My local Pilot truck stop is putting in EV chargers as i type.

Talk with any tech who is learning ev tech. The cars are very simplistic.  Majority of Tesla recalls are fixed  online while the car sits at the owners home or work.

 A friend owns a Chrysler dealership. The zone rep told him with Ev's he would only need 25% of his current techs or less but at the same time the dealership makes the bulk of their money/profit  from the service dept and the future dealership model is moving towards online sales-you will buy it online -set price and pick up at a local dealer. Yes he is against EV's for these reasons.

As Rush always said follow the money. Ev's maximize profits and minimize cost for the car so's. The car co's can care less about the environment.

Who are those rational people?

Folks who have been following the Israeli-Palestinian quagmire for decades ---- and doing so beyond PR sound bites from both sides.  There is a  recognizable and predictable pattern from both sides of the mess.