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Title: Schiff announces sudden new ‘impeachment evidence’ on eve of articles transfer
Post by: mystery-ak on January 15, 2020, 03:17:15 pm
Schiff announces sudden new ‘impeachment evidence’ on eve of articles transfer
January 15, 2020 | Tom Tillison

Despite the rhetoric from Speaker Nancy Pelosi, D-Calif., about their case to impeach President Donald Trump being “strong,” deep down, House Democrats seem to know they failed to deliver the goods and there’s no chance the U.S. Senate will convict the president.

A clue here is that on the eve of the day Pelosi will finally relent in her failed tactic of holding the two impeachment articles Democrats approved against Trump and send them to the upper chamber, they are still frantically trying to dig up evidence — the delay by Pelosi appears more and more to be a ploy for more time to make their case.

With the clock about to strike midnight on the partisan effort to unseat a duly elected president, House Intelligence Chairman Adam Schiff, D-Calif., sent over new evidence to the House Judiciary Committee that will be given to the Senate in addition to the two articles of impeachment charging Trump with abuse of power and obstruction of Congress.

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https://www.bizpacreview.com/2020/01/15/schiff-announces-sudden-new-impeachment-evidence-on-eve-of-articles-transfer-875781 (https://www.bizpacreview.com/2020/01/15/schiff-announces-sudden-new-impeachment-evidence-on-eve-of-articles-transfer-875781)
Title: Re: Schiff announces sudden new ‘impeachment evidence’ on eve of articles transfer
Post by: Cyber Liberty on January 15, 2020, 03:26:55 pm
"Evidence" that's been unexamined by an adversarial Hearing.  The Senate should ignore any such evidence.
Title: Re: Schiff announces sudden new ‘impeachment evidence’ on eve of articles transfer
Post by: Wingnut on January 15, 2020, 03:37:45 pm
"Hey Rocky. watch me pull a Rabbit out of my hat"

Oh Bullwinkle.

Title: Re: Schiff announces sudden new ‘impeachment evidence’ on eve of articles transfer
Post by: austingirl on January 15, 2020, 09:40:23 pm
More Schitt.
Title: Re: Schiff announces sudden new ‘impeachment evidence’ on eve of articles transfer
Post by: Ghost Bear on January 15, 2020, 10:58:33 pm
This is known as an Ass Pull. (https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/Asspull)
Title: Re: Schiff announces sudden new ‘impeachment evidence’ on eve of articles transfer
Post by: roamer_1 on January 15, 2020, 11:35:21 pm
"Evidence" that's been unexamined by an adversarial Hearing.  The Senate should ignore any such evidence.

Yeah, That don't seem right. Though I don't know if the committee is the actual authority, or the whole body is.  :shrug:
Title: Re: Schiff announces sudden new ‘impeachment evidence’ on eve of articles transfer
Post by: TomSea on January 16, 2020, 12:02:58 am
Some or all of it has to do with Robert Hyde, candidate CT representative (?):

I just posted all of this:

First off, Dan Bongino tweeted this:

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Dan Bongino
@dbongino
Why was Marie Yovanovitch monitoring me, and others, when we began exposing her role in the Ukrainian collusion scandal with the Obama administration and the Democrats? Has she truthfully answered that question yet?
https://twitter.com/dbongino/status/1217561238185660417 (https://twitter.com/dbongino/status/1217561238185660417)

With that out of the way, if it wasn't mentioned, a Republican candidate for Representative Robert F. Hyde, Connecticut is in the news....
some.  2 articles, today and yesterday.

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Who is the Robert F. Hyde who surfaced in House Intelligence Committee documents?
By Daniela Altimari    Hartford Courant |  Jan 14, 2020

(https://www.courant.com/resizer/sHiA43Vyfz_OgoxT_X1GTPF_E_M=/800x629/top/arc-anglerfish-arc2-prod-tronc.s3.amazonaws.com/public/GYGNZ2DIERE6JLGH3JNEXQ4654.JPG)

Robert F. Hyde, a Republican candidate for the U.S. House of Representatives in Connecticut, surfaced in House Intelligence Committee documents released Tuesday.

The documents, released on the eve of the House vote on the articles of impeachment, contained a series of WhatsApp messages between Lev Parnas about former Ukrainian Ambassador Marie Yovanovitch. Parnas is a Soviet-born associate of Rudy Giuliani who acted as a conduit in the campaign to pressure Ukrainian officials to investigate Hunter Biden.

In the messages to Parnas, Hyde apparently wrote, "Wow. Can’t believe Trumo [sic] hasn’t fired this bitch,” referring to Yovanovitch.

Read more at: https://www.courant.com/politics/hc-pol-who-is-robert-hyde-20200114-pkrvqm2q3ngwtcrjywut4s7fzq-story.html (https://www.courant.com/politics/hc-pol-who-is-robert-hyde-20200114-pkrvqm2q3ngwtcrjywut4s7fzq-story.html)

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Records: Connecticut congressional candidate Robert F. Hyde had U.S. ambassador to Ukraine under ‘physical surveillance'

By Russell Blair and Daniela Altimari   Hartford Courant |  Jan 15, 2020

Documents released by House Democrats Tuesday show Connecticut congressional candidate Robert F. Hyde was in contact with an associate of President Donald Trump’s personal lawyer Rudy Giuliani, purportedly relaying information about the location of U.S. Ambassador to Ukraine Marie Yovanovitch, a central figure in the impeachment inquiry into the president.

“Mr. Hyde … sent a series of text messages suggesting that he had Ambassador Yovanovitch under physical surveillance in Kyiv and that ‘They are willing to help if we/you would like a price,’ ” according to a letter sent by House Intelligence Committee Chairman Rep. Adam B. Schiff.

On Tuesday, Yovanvitch -- who grew up in Kent -- called for an investigation into the “disturbing” monitoring of the former ambassador.

Read more at: https://www.courant.com/politics/hc-pol-connecticut-robert-f-hyde-lev-parnas-20200114-l6xbb3wfcnavzeag74ua2gvhey-story.html (https://www.courant.com/politics/hc-pol-connecticut-robert-f-hyde-lev-parnas-20200114-l6xbb3wfcnavzeag74ua2gvhey-story.html)

I'd rather have some just say simply what happened but there you are.

 Hyde's twitter does not seem to reveal much concern at this point.  (https://twitter.com/rfhyde1)

Maybe all of this has already been posted, the so-called "new evidence".

Really, more detail than I'd care to study and read about it but it does seem to be some of this new stuff. It's a bit interesting.
Title: Re: Schiff announces sudden new ‘impeachment evidence’ on eve of articles transfer
Post by: PeteS in CA on January 16, 2020, 01:56:19 am
Sounds like Hyde, for whatever reason, was having  Yovanovitch surveilled. And offered Giuliani whatever was learned thereby. IOW, the surveilling was not on Trump's orders, direct or indirect.

Even if it were, so what? Trump doesn't have the right to learn whether the Ambassador who serves at his pleasure is doing as she is instructed or is playing her own game?

Schifftyroo's shocking new evidence looks to me like a double-decker nothingburger.
Title: Re: Schiff announces sudden new ‘impeachment evidence’ on eve of articles transfer
Post by: TomSea on January 16, 2020, 02:10:08 am
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Trump impeachment: Was someone tracking the U.S. ambassador in Kiev?
Patricia Zengerle

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In one, Hyde wrote, “They are moving her tomorrow.” In another, he said he had associates in Ukraine who could help keep track of Yovanovitch. “They are willing to help if we/you would like a price,” he said.

Hyde denied wrongdoing, saying on Twitter he had never been in Kiev.

“For them to take some texts my buddy’s and I wrote back to some dweeb we were playing with that we met a few times while we had a few drinks is definitely laughable,” he wrote

Read more at: https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-trump-impeachment-threat/trump-impeachment-was-someone-tracking-the-u-s-ambassador-in-kiev-idUSKBN1ZE2RV (https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-trump-impeachment-threat/trump-impeachment-was-someone-tracking-the-u-s-ambassador-in-kiev-idUSKBN1ZE2RV)

A bit more. I'm not sure if I see how someone like Hyde could have the wherewithal to put someone under surveillance. Something to watch. Just kidding around?
Title: Re: Schiff announces sudden new ‘impeachment evidence’ on eve of articles transfer
Post by: Hoodat on January 16, 2020, 02:16:02 am
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Records: Connecticut congressional candidate Robert F. Hyde had U.S. ambassador to Ukraine under ‘physical surveillance'
By Russell Blair and Daniela Altimari   Hartford Courant |  Jan 15, 2020

Documents released by House Democrats Tuesday show Connecticut congressional candidate Robert F. Hyde was in contact with an associate of President Donald Trump’s personal lawyer Rudy Giuliani, purportedly relaying information about the location of U.S. Ambassador to Ukraine Marie Yovanovitch, a central figure in the impeachment inquiry into the president.

“Mr. Hyde … sent a series of text messages suggesting that he had Ambassador Yovanovitch under physical surveillance in Kyiv and that ‘They are willing to help if we/you would like a price,’ ” according to a letter sent by House Intelligence Committee Chairman Rep. Adam B. Schiff.

On Tuesday, Yovanvitch -- who grew up in Kent -- called for an investigation into the “disturbing” monitoring of the former ambassador.

Read more at: https://www.courant.com/politics/hc-pol-connecticut-robert-f-hyde-lev-parnas-20200114-l6xbb3wfcnavzeag74ua2gvhey-story.html (https://www.courant.com/politics/hc-pol-connecticut-robert-f-hyde-lev-parnas-20200114-l6xbb3wfcnavzeag74ua2gvhey-story.html)

This is why it is crucial to put Yovanovitch under oath again.  Nail her for perjury.  Prosecute her.  Sentence her.  Jail her.  Then broadcast that the House impeachment was based on perjured testimony.