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General Category => Elections 2020 => Topic started by: Formerly Once-Ler on March 17, 2020, 10:26:57 am
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https://www.npr.org/2020/03/17/816680033/poll-americans-dont-trust-what-they-re-hearing-from-trump-on-coronavirus (https://www.npr.org/2020/03/17/816680033/poll-americans-dont-trust-what-they-re-hearing-from-trump-on-coronavirus)
Americans have little trust in the information they are hearing from President Trump about the novel coronavirus, and their confidence in the federal government's response to it is declining sharply, according to a new NPR/PBS NewsHour/Marist poll.
Just 46% of Americans now say the federal government is doing enough to prevent the spread of coronavirus, down from 61% in February.
Just 37% of Americans now say they had a good amount or a great deal of trust in what they're hearing from the president, while 60% say they had not very much or no trust at all in what he's saying.
Public health officials got the highest level of trust at 84%, followed by those state and local leaders (72%). Americans were split 50% to 47% on whether they can trust information coming from the news media or not.
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https://www.npr.org/2020/03/17/816680033/poll-americans-dont-trust-what-they-re-hearing-from-trump-on-coronavirus (https://www.npr.org/2020/03/17/816680033/poll-americans-dont-trust-what-they-re-hearing-from-trump-on-coronavirus)
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Bullshit. And.... by the way...
they left out the "x" there. JS.... :whistle:
NPR/PBS NewsHour/Marist poll
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Not only do I not trust Trump, but my fellow man... It will have to get worse before the average kid who thinks he is invincible starts to take this serious. I can't afford to be callous, not with my lungs and other ailments. I went to the local gas mart today, the lady cashier was laughing it up how dumb everyone is about this whole thing. The whole time she was coughing (while mopping) without even a thought about covering her mouth... All I could think of was washing my change with my pocket sanitizer when she handed it back to me. I almost didn't take it, but it seemed rude (and I waited until I was outside to do my business w/cleaners).
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Not only do I not trust Trump, but my fellow man... It will have to get worse before the average kid who thinks he is invincible starts to take this serious. I can't afford to be callous, not with my lungs and other ailments. I went to the local gas mart today, the lady cashier was laughing it up how dumb everyone is about this whole thing. The whole time she was coughing (while mopping) without even a thought about covering her mouth... All I could think of was washing my change with my pocket sanitizer when she handed it back to me. I almost didn't take it, but it seemed rude (and I waited until I was outside to do my business w/cleaners).
She might have been coughing just to annoy you (paranoia). It worked, if so.
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“There is no worse mistake in public leadership than to hold out false hopes soon to be swept away." - Churchill
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Trump scored low on the trust issue even back in the 2016 election cycle so it’s unlikely that went away. That along with the “what is the government not telling us†feeling
Part of being a conservative is having a healthy skepticism of government regardless of who holds the reins of power
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Broadcast bullsh*t then take a poll.
Sounds like a plan.
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It would be interesting to take a poll on this site to see how many believe that the Trump administration, specifically, and the federal government, in general, are telling us the truth of everything they know?
Who considers Donald Trump an honest, trustworthy person? Would anybody here, based on his history, be eager to do business with him?
I believe the poll is accurate. And I bet you would find every other poll showing the same thing. There’s no magic formula he could do when it comes to this virus, and his opposition is only sniping at the sidelines because they can.
Like it or not, Trump does have credibility issues according to the electorate. And this will probably be another election were both candidates score low on the trustworthiness issue.
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The best bet for the president is let his public health officials speak OFTEN
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I stopped believing opinion polls along about 1980; 2016 ratified my skepticism.
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I stopped believing opinion polls along about 1980; 2016 ratified my skepticism.
So do you believe everything the president is telling you? Do you find this president trust worthy?
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I stopped believing opinion polls along about 1980; 2016 ratified my skepticism.
1980?? Isn't that the year Jimmy Carter beat Ronald Reagan?? happy77
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Important things left out of the NPR "reporting" on this...the media is to blame for the mistrust because of their panic based reporting.
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The best bet for the president is let his public health officials speak OFTEN
I suspect this is why he prefers to be the warm-up act for Pence and company in the daily COVD-19 Pressers. He comes in, makes a speech, takes few if any questions then hands it over to Pence. Goodbye.
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So do you believe everything the president is telling you? Do you find this president trust worthy?
I believe neither Polls nor Politicians. It's not a binary, one-or-the-other choice.
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1980?? Isn't that the year Jimmy Carter beat Ronald Reagan?? happy77
Yeah, I remember the polls from back then, too.
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I stopped believing opinion polls along about 1980; 2016 ratified my skepticism.
Rush Limbaugh put my finger on it in his early days on EIB Network. Paraphrased, he said the Press reports on these polls as if they were just dropped on their desks, they never let on that they created the polls in the first place, engineered to give the desired results!
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Polls have been unreliable for quite awhile, why oh why should I believe this poll?
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Yeah, I remember the polls from back then, too.
It’s when I realized that polls stink.
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Source:
npr.
That tells me all that I need to know...
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So the official position is this poll is wrong?
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So the official position is this poll is wrong?
No idea. We need to find an Official. :shrug:
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Broadcast bullsh*t then take a poll.
Sounds like a plan.
The only purpose of the poll is to gauge the effectiveness of their propaganda.
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So do you believe everything the president is telling you? Do you find this president trust worthy?
@LMAO, are irrelevant straw man arguments your favorite go-to?
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1980?? Isn't that the year Jimmy Carter beat Ronald Reagan?? happy77
Yes. That is when I first noticed polling being skewed via loaded questions ("Push-polling") and gamed sampling. It was much more subtle then than it came to be in 2015 forward.
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@LMAO, are irrelevant straw man arguments your favorite go-to?
Methinks you don’t know what a strawman argument is
I’m not making an argument. I simply asked a question. Unless I’m reading What others are trying to say incorrectly, it seems that some are dismissing this poll. Are they dismissing it because they believe the president really is trustworthy and his word on this issue can be trusted?Or are they simply dismissing it because they don’t like what they’re hearing? Or is it a lopsided poll heavily skewed towards Democrats versus Republicans?
I’m actually curious as to why people think this poll is wrong. I believe the poll is correct and I do believe that the president does have trust worthiness issues which is kind of plaguing him. I haven’t claimed anything for anybody else
I remember the recent good old days when a former member was called out for simply dismissing things that he didn’t like to hear. I have not heard an intellectual argument as of yet why this poll is wrong
Hopefully that will help clear things up for you
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So the official position is this poll is wrong?
Another straw man from a forest thereof?
I don't know where you get "official", but personally I've taken opinion polls - regardless of results - with an ever-growing block of salt, for several decades. The canyon between MSM Presidential polls in 2016 and the actual election outcome made that block of salt a mountain. Why do you seem to have a problem with people disbelieving opinion polls?
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Methinks you don’t know what a strawman argument is
I’m not making an argument. I simply asked a question.
I know what a straw man argument is. In this thread, I said nothing about how credible I find President Trump to be, and yet you are trying to create an issue about something I did not say. And I'm not taking that bait.
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I know what a straw man argument is. In this thread, I said nothing about how credible I find President Trump to be, and yet you are trying to create an issue about something I did not say. And I'm not taking that bait.
I must’ve struck a nerve...
Instead of getting upset and angry why don’t you go read my first reply to you because I added to it
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The best bet for the president is let his public health officials speak OFTEN
Absolutely.
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Another straw man from a forest thereof?
I don't know where you get "official", but personally I've taken opinion polls - regardless of results - with an ever-growing block of salt, for several decades. The canyon between MSM Presidential polls in 2016 and the actual election outcome made that block of salt a mountain. Why do you seem to have a problem with people disbelieving opinion polls?
You need to cool down a little bit. I’m just curious as to why people think this poll is wrong. Again, I have not heard any arguments why it’s wrong and all I get is you repeating “2016, 2016â€
Give me a reason why this poll is wrong. Does it, for example, over sample Democrats which would skew the results
It appears to me, and correct me if I’m misreading it, but some are simply stating the poll is wrong and deciding that’s going to be the position without telling me why
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Methinks you don’t know what a strawman argument is
I’m not making an argument. I simply asked a question. Unless I’m reading What others are trying to say incorrectly, it seems that some are dismissing this poll. Are they dismissing it because they believe the president really is trustworthy and his word on this issue can be trusted?Or are they simply dismissing it because they don’t like what they’re hearing? Or is it a lopsided Paul as heavily skewed towards Democrats versus Republicans?
I’m actually curious as to why people think this poll is wrong. I believe the poll is correct and I do believe that the president does have trust worthiness issues which is kind of plaguing him. I haven’t claimed anything for anybody else
I remember the recent good old days when a former member was called out for simply dismissing things that he didn’t like to hear. I have not heard an intellectual argument as of yet why this poll is wrong
Hopefully that will help clear things up for you
Speaking for myself, I don't think this poll is any less accurate than any another media poll: Totally worthless as a gauge of public opinion. :shrug:
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Polls have been unreliable for quite awhile, why oh why should I believe this poll?
Donald J. Trump @realDonaldTrump
95% Approval Rating in the Republican Party, 53% overall. Not bad considering I get nothing but Fake & Corrupt News, day and night. “Russia, Russia, Russiaâ€, then “the Ukraine Scam (where’s the Whistleblower?)â€, the “Impeachment Hoaxâ€, and more, more, more....
8:29 AM · Mar 18, 2020
Donald J. Trump @realDonaldTrump
....Also, according to the Daily Caller, leading Sleepy Joe Biden in Florida, 48% to 42%.
He is totally steadfast in tirelessly solving the spread of the virus and calming the markets with this self-aggrandizing and possibly unreliable poll tweet today. Do you judge my President for spreading the great news about his huge popularity?
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Methinks you don’t know what a strawman argument is
I’m not making an argument. I simply asked a question. Unless I’m reading What others are trying to say incorrectly, it seems that some are dismissing this poll. Are they dismissing it because they believe the president really is trustworthy and his word on this issue can be trusted?Or are they simply dismissing it because they don’t like what they’re hearing? Or is it a lopsided Paul as heavily skewed towards Democrats versus Republicans?
I’m actually curious as to why people think this poll is wrong. I believe the poll is correct and I do believe that the president does have trust worthiness issues which is kind of plaguing him. I haven’t claimed anything for anybody else
I remember the recent good old days when a former member was called out for simply dismissing things that he didn’t like to hear. I have not heard an intellectual argument as of yet why this poll is wrong
Hopefully that will help clear things up for you
goopo
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Speaking for myself, I don't think this poll is any less accurate than any another media poll: Totally worthless as a gauge of public opinion. :shrug:
It’s been my experience that people tend to embrace polls they like and dismiss those they don’t.
I’m not pointing that at you but people in general. Human nature. I understand polls can be wrong and the 2016 presidential poll is a perfect example but they can also be right whether one likes the results or not
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It’s been my experience that people tend to embrace polls they like and dismiss those they don’t.
I’m not pointing that at you but people in general. Human nature. I understand polls can be wrong and the 2016 presidential poll is a perfect example but they can also be right whether one likes the results or not
The predictive ability of media polls have been equal to the toss of a coin for years. I should clarify, there are polls that can be believed, but because they are proprietary we don't often hear about them. I make my observations about polls applicable only to media polls, like NBC, Gallup, etc. Those are commissioned by people pushing an agenda.
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The predictive ability of media polls have been equal to the toss of a coin for years. I should clarify, there are polls that can be believed, but because they are proprietary we don't often hear about them. I make my observations about polls applicable only to media polls, like NBC, Gallup, etc. Those are commissioned by people pushing an agenda.
I also think mixed in is just people’s mistrust of government in general
Biden is going to attempt to paint himself as the Washington outsider who has all these great plans to fix these issues yet he’s been in Washington since the 1980s
Although in his defense, he’s probably forgotten that he’s been in Washington all these years
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The only purpose of the poll is to gauge the effectiveness of their propaganda.
Yes indeed. How else are they gonna know what to report?
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LMAO taunts us:
"Who considers Donald Trump an honest, trustworthy person? Would anybody here, based on his history, be eager to do business with him?"
I'd trust him more than I'd trust you.
I'd prefer to do business with him more than I would with you.
How does that suit you?
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LMAO taunts us:
"Who considers Donald Trump an honest, trustworthy person? Would anybody here, based on his history, be eager to do business with him?"
I'd trust him more than I'd trust you.
I'd prefer to do business with him more than I would with you.
How does that suit you?
The rat media & left has lied diligently to build the 'Trump lies' narrative.
Some have actually bought it.
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LMAO taunts us:
"Who considers Donald Trump an honest, trustworthy person? Would anybody here, based on his history, be eager to do business with him?"
I'd trust him more than I'd trust you.
I'd prefer to do business with him more than I would with you.
How does that suit you?
I’ve never been accused of stiffing contractors so there’s that
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The rat media & left has lied diligently to build the 'Trump lies' narrative.
Some have actually bought it.
I’m curious who you think is buying the media narrative?
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I’m curious who you think is “buying the media narrative?â€
Sounds like you have.
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Sounds like you have.
Can you point out to me which media lie regarding Donald Trump that I’m buying? Just one
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Can you point out to me which media lie regarding Donald Trump that I’m buying? Just one
Lol. I'm drawing my conclusion from your comments on this thread, and the performance Trump has turned in since becoming president.
Maybe you should tell me why you consider Trump remarkably untrustworthy.
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So no answer to my question. I had no expectation that I would get one so I’m not particularly disappointed.
I’m starting to feel some sympathy for Dexter.
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So no answer to my question. I had no expectation that I would get one so I’m not particularly disappointed.
I’m starting to feel some sympathy for Dexter.
Great posts @LMAO . I'm staying out of it because 1. Anything I write will get discounted. Some people think I'm anti-Trump, and 2. You are doing awesome, nakedly exposing the thought conditioning protecting some Trump fans. Beautiful.
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So no answer to my question. I had no expectation that I would get one so I’m not particularly disappointed.
I’m starting to feel some sympathy for Dexter.
Well, it is kind of a dumb question @LMAO. You're asking me to recount your own specific thought processes, in detail.
I, on the other hand, asked you to explain your own comments. A much more reasonable request.
Which you didn't do, BTW.
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A melee almost broke out at Kroger this morning. A shopper in the checkout line remarked that Trump was to blame for all of this, at which point several other shoppers took strong exception to the comment. Cooler heads prevailed though.
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:im waiting: