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General Category => Editorial/Opinion/Blogs => Topic started by: alicewonders on March 30, 2016, 02:35:21 pm
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http://www.dangerandplay.com/2016/03/29/how-michelle-fields-conned-prosecutors-into-charging-corey-lewandowski-with-battery/
How Michelle Fields Conned Prosecutors into Charging Corey Lewandowski with Battery
MARCH 29, 2016 BY MIKE CERNOVICH 91 COMMENTS
The battery case Michelle Fields filed against Trump campaign manager Corey Lewandowski is the result of a con job, a police report reveals. We can now report that Fields conspired with Washington Post reporter Ben Terris to frame Lewandowski.
Michelle Fields approaches Trump, requiring Secret Service agents to step in.
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Corey Lewandowski brushes Fields.
http://i2.wp.com/www.dangerandplay.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/03/7V5Yhmy-Imgur.gif
Here’s another video angle of Lewandowski and Fields touching one another.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IGz5DPqU-p0&feature=youtu.be
Lewandowski has chat with Ben Terris, tells Terris to call him.
There’s in action after Lewandowski brushes Fields. You can hear Lewandowski tell Terris to call him in the morning.
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The full source video is here.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lE-TNmU3Uzo
Fields records a conversation with Terris, claiming she was pulled to the ground.
https://twitter.com/Cernovich/status/714949481188306944
Fields writes an article claiming she was nearly pulled to ground.
Fields wrote an article claiming she was tossed around.
http://www.breitbart.com/big-journalism/2016/03/10/3276486/
"I was jolted backwards. Someone had grabbed me tightly by the arm and yanked me down. I almost fell to the ground, but was able to maintain my balance. Nonetheless, I was shaken."
Fields releases an audio transcript to anti-Trump Politico.
Since we know Fields recorded the conversation she had with Terris, why did she only release the audio transcript to Hadas Gold?
http://i1.wp.com/www.dangerandplay.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/03/Michelle-Fields-audio-transcript.00-PM.jpg?resize=768%2C619
The audio transcript sounded dramatic.
Terris: “You OK?”
Fields: “Holy sh*t.”
Terris: “Yea he just threw you down.”
Fields: “I can’t believe he just did that that was so hard. Was that Corey [Lewandowski]?”
Terris: “Yeah, like, what threat were you?”
Fields: “That was insane. You should have felt how hard he grabbed me. That’s insane. I’ve never had anyone do that to me from a campaign.”
Terris: “Can I put that in my story?”
Fields: “Yeah, go for it — that was really awful. That’s so unprofessional.”
Terris: “He really just almost threw you down on the ground.”
Fields: “He literally went like this and was grabbing me down. “I don’t even want to do what he just did to me. Oh my God, that really spooked me that someone would do that.”
Fields releases the full recording, where she is heard laughing.
http://bcove.me/81iixf14
Michelle Fields was the source of the audio recording.
In the police report released today, we learned that Fields was the source of the conversation between herself and WaPo’s Ben Terris. The police report reads.
“Fields also played me the audio from her interaction with Trump when she asked him a question. During the audio portion immediately after the incident, Fields is heard saying, ‘Holy shit, I can’t believe he just did that….. that was so hard."
Ben Terris begins covering up evidence that would clear Lewandowski.
After questions were raised about the event, Ben Terris ordered his photographer to destroy or withhold any evidence revealing the hoax.
http://www.dangerandplay.com/2016/03/11/washington-post-caught-in-huge-media-cover-up/
Jabin Botsford, a photographer for the Washington Post, was at the event where Fields claim she was assaulted. As his camera offered the perfect angle of the event, he was asked for additional footage.
As you can see in this exchange, Botsford first lies about even being at the event, only admitting to being at the event when presented with copyright evidence proving he was there. Botsford then deleted incriminating Tweets.
http://i1.wp.com/www.dangerandplay.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/03/Jabin-Botsford-journalism-fraud.29-AM.jpg?resize=768%2C396
Michelle Fields’ “bruised arm.”
The video shows Lewandowski touching Fields’ shoulder. In a picture Fields posted, she has a bruise on her forearm. Fake?
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The battery case against Lewandowski is bogus.
As you can see from the video, Lewandowski grabbed Fields after she kept approaching Trump.
At no point was Fields in any danger. She was not pulled to the ground.
Fields herself recorded a conversation with Terris about the incident. The entire conversation sounded scripted, and now we know why. Fields recorded the conversation.
Fields would initially only release an audio transcript, which was scripted to be dramatic. The audio recording is a joke, and Fields is heard in cheerful spirits.
This is a hoax. Witness it as it happens.
P.S. The prosecutor responsible for the charges against Lewandowski is a Hillary Clinton supporter. Read all about there here.
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I posted this because it shows the incident from different angles and gives a better picture as to what actually happened.
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Mike Cernovich?
Gamergates Mike Cernovich?
Mens Rights activist Mike Cernovich?
Pu-leez.
Stick with the National Enquirer. It has about 60 times the credibility.
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Mike Cernovich?
Gamergates Mike Cernovich?
Mens Rights activist Mike Cernovich?
Pu-leez.
Stick with the National Enquirer. It has about 60 times the credibility.
I posted videos and links to back up what is said - doesn't have anything to do with the guy's credibility. You have eyeballs, don't you?
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I posted this because it shows the incident from different angles and gives a better picture as to what actually happened.
No it doesn't and it didn't to the police either.
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I posted this because it shows the incident from different angles and gives a better picture as to what actually happened.
It does show what happened. Doesn't help Trump's case or yours.
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It does show what happened. Doesn't help Trump's case or yours.
Very true.
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The battery case against Lewandowski is bogus.
As you can see from the video, Lewandowski grabbed Fields after she kept approaching Trump.
At no point was Fields in any danger. She was not pulled to the ground.
Irrelevant. Neither danger nor being pulled to the ground is an element of the crime of battery.
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http://www.examiner.com/article/fields-lewandowski-timeline
March 29, 2016 8:01 PM MST
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=plZyWBTtlQU (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=plZyWBTtlQU)
Since the initial charges were made against Corey Lewandowski, Donald Trump's campaign manager, by Michelle Fields, the Trump campaign and their enablers have tried defending the indefensible. At times, Lewandowski denied everything, saying "@MichelleFields you are totally delusional. I never touched you. As a matter of fact, I have never even met you."
Now something has been put forth that's more than he said-she said. That something is this video. Before watching it, it's important that you watch it frame-by-frame. Watch Mr. Lewandowski's body positioning. Watch Ms. Field's positioning, too. It's also important to watch the time-stamp in the lower left corner of the video. Finally, watch the video in what's called "Theater mode." That's the clearest picture and the biggest images of the incident.
Three seconds into the 12-second video, it's clear that Ms. Fields is positioned a little bit in front of Mr. Trump. The time-stamp in the lower left of the frame is "08 Mar 2016 - 21:57:45.963 EST Zoom 2.01" This is an important frame because Mr. Lewandowski had his left arm extended towards Ms. Fields' left shoulder. He's at least 3' away from Ms. Fields. It's also noteworthy that Ms. Fields and Mr. Trump are standing side-by-side at this point. Directly behind Lewandowski is Ben Terris, the Washington Post reporter who initially recorded a brief interview with Ms. Fields. At most, Mr. Terris was 6 feet away from Ms. Fields.
Just 1.5 seconds later, Mr. Trump is 3' in front of Ms. Fields. Lewandowski is closer to Ms. Fields than Ms. Fields is to Mr. Trump.
The next frame, which has a time-stamp of "08 Mar 2016 - 21:57:47.963 EST" shows Lewandowski moving himself past Ms. Field. He's clearly got a hold of her. Just as importantly, Ms. Fields is now standing right in front of Ben Terris, the Washington Post reporter.
The next frame, which has a time-stamp of "08 Mar 2016 - 21:57:49.963 EST" changes things significantly. Ms. Fields is standing next to Terris, with Lewandowski shielding Mr. Trump from Ms. Fields.
It's clear that something happened and that Lewandowski made it happen. The interactions started 3 seconds into the video with Ms. Fields asking Mr. Trump a question about affirmative action. Just 4 seconds later, Lewandowski is shielding Mr. Trump from Ms. Fields' question.
What's the likelihood of a reporter asking a presidential candidate a question, then moving away on their own without letting the presidential candidate answer the question? If you asked most reporters that question, it's a safe bet that the overwhelming majority of reporters would say there's zero chance that they'd walk away without getting the answer.
That's just part of the sordid story. Trump wasn't happy that his campaign manager was arrested. Predictably, Trump took to Twitter, saying "Victory press conference was over. Why is she allowed to grab me and shout questions? Can I press charges?"
It's a safe bet that Trump will never say that in court. The overhead video shows that Mr. Trump is lying. Mr. Trump didn't get this wrong. Mr. Trump isn't mistaken. Mr. Trump lied. At no point did Ms. Fields touch Mr. Trump.
If Mr. Trump testifies in Mr. Lewandowski's trial, if it reaches that point, he won't make that accusation. The prosecutor, though, if they're smart, would be wise to ask Mr. Trump the question. If Mr. Trump recants his story, the prosecutor should use that to destroy Trump's credibility as a witness.
The Jupiter Police Department deserve high praise for finding this video. It's the best piece of forensic evidence produced thus far.
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Irrelevant. Neither danger nor being pulled to the ground is an element of the crime of battery.
Yes, he was charged with simple battery - which in Florida can mean touching someone that doesn't want you to touch them.
The point I was making is that what the woman originally said happened - never happened. She was not "jolted back" and she did not "almost fall to the ground". Do you know that she has made these accusations against others before - including Allen West? Drama always follows her.
Yep. She made a police report and they charged Corey with battery. They didn't arrest him. I think the case is weak - but I also think the whole point of it was to generate sensational headlines that everyone can talk about for days - and then, when the thing goes nowhere, it will quietly go away.
Meanwhile, the damage is done.
That's how dirty politics is played.
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One thing this frame by frame shows is that she did not fall to the ground or even look like it bothered her...if you leave bruises it's gonna hurt...she doesn't look like she's in any pain or even holding her arm..just my opinion
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My post was intended to point out a factual error made by the writer of the article posted.
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Yes, he was charged with simple battery - which in Florida can mean touching someone that doesn't want you to touch them.
The point I was making is that what the woman originally said happened - never happened. She was not "jolted back" and she did not "almost fall to the ground". Do you know that she has made these accusations against others before - including Allen West? Drama always follows her.
Yep. She made a police report and they charged Corey with battery. They didn't arrest him. I think the case is weak - but I also think the whole point of it was to generate sensational headlines that everyone can talk about for days - and then, when the thing goes nowhere, it will quietly go away.
Meanwhile, the damage is done.
That's how dirty politics is played.
You bet the damage is done. The way Trump handled this has driven his unfavorables among women even higher. A simple apology would have made all of this go away, but Trump can't seem to do that.
He's gaslighting you, alice and you can't see it.
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Trump is handling this the way the people want to see a leader handle this. He's not firing an employee that he doesn't think did anything wrong. He's the one that turned these tapes into the police. He is standing by his guy - and that's probably why his employees think highly of him. Kasich said the video was conclusive and he would have fired his aide over it. Cruz - blames Trump (of course, he's become a one-note Teddy at this point).
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One thing this frame by frame shows is that she did not fall to the ground or even look like it bothered her...if you leave bruises it's gonna hurt...she doesn't look like she's in any pain or even holding her arm..just my opinion
One thing this frame by frame shows is that she did not fall to the ground or even look like it bothered her...if you leave bruises it's gonna hurt...she doesn't look like she's in any pain or even holding her arm..just my opinion
She never said she fell to the ground. She said she managed to recover her balance before she fell. Given the way she was yanked back he must have grabbed her pretty hard - a gentle grip would have slipped - and that is wholly consistent with bruising. And just because you don't yelp in pain immediately doesn't mean it didn't hurt and also doesn't mean it's not battery. All that's required for battery is that the contact be harmful or offensive. Under either measure he committed battery.
The only lying POS here is Lewandowski. Trump might as well be a liar since he keeps pushing Lewandowskis lies even though the video makes it painfully obvious he grabbed her.
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My post was intended to point out a factual error made by the writer of the article posted.
I understand, and I agree with you. I was clarifying why I posted it.
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Yes, he was charged with simple battery - which in Florida can mean touching someone that doesn't want you to touch them.
The point I was making is that what the woman originally said happened - never happened. She was not "jolted back" and she did not "almost fall to the ground". Do you know that she has made these accusations against others before - including Allen West? Drama always follows her.
Yep. She made a police report and they charged Corey with battery. They didn't arrest him. I think the case is weak - but I also think the whole point of it was to generate sensational headlines that everyone can talk about for days - and then, when the thing goes nowhere, it will quietly go away.
Meanwhile, the damage is done.
That's how dirty politics is played.
Are you kidding me???????????????
What does yanked back mean to you? Did she have to fly back like someone who got shot at close range in some cheesy action movie? She got yanked back and she stumbled. It is all there in the video.
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Trump is handling this the way the people want to see a leader handle this. He's not firing an employee that he doesn't think did anything wrong. He's the one that turned these tapes into the police. He is standing by his guy - and that's probably why his employees think highly of him. Kasich said the video was conclusive and he would have fired his aide over it. Cruz - blames Trump (of course, he's become a one-note Teddy at this point).
For every person who admires Trump sticking by his guy (mostly men and female Trump supporters), there are at least two or more that notice a pattern where women are concerned with Trump: he treats them like garbage. And those voters are mostly women, who make up 54% of the voting population.
The important number here is 73%, Trump's current unfavorables among women.
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Trump is handling this the way the people want to see a leader handle this. He's not firing an employee that he doesn't think did anything wrong. He's the one that turned these tapes into the police. He is standing by his guy - and that's probably why his employees think highly of him. Kasich said the video was conclusive and he would have fired his aide over it. Cruz - blames Trump (of course, he's become a one-note Teddy at this point).
Yeah. I really want a "leader" who spends several days smearing the name and reputation of someone who was assaulted by his campaign manager until the evidence makes it plain as day his campaign manager did exactly what he's accused of.
Geez.
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As the Rats showed by constantly suing Sarah Palin, you can use the law for political purposes... it is spreading...
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One thing this frame by frame shows is that she did not fall to the ground or even look like it bothered her...if you leave bruises it's gonna hurt...she doesn't look like she's in any pain or even holding her arm..just my opinion
But, we can't see her face, can we? How do we determine if it bothered her or not from the video?
Either way, I'm sick of hearing about it. The DA has it and they will decide where the truth lies.
(Yes, it's a pun. Not a very good one, but a pun nonetheless.)
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Wow. The strength of the Trump personality cult is strong. Facts that are plain as day must fall before the virtue and purity of the figurehead. Denial ain't just a river in Egypt.
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As the Rats showed by constantly suing Sarah Palin, you can use the law for political purposes... it is spreading...
Right on cue, here come the conspiracy theories. It was a vast conspiracy designed to malign an innocent as the driven snow Trump. Geez.
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As the Rats showed by constantly suing Sarah Palin, you can use the law for political purposes... it is spreading...
Correct.
I'm not going to waste time trying to counter the hysterical hyenas that will spend the whole day telling people to pi$$ off, posting silly pictures and calling silly names. Got better things to do - have fun kids.
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Correct.
I'm not going to waste time trying to counter the hysterical hyenas that will spend the whole day telling people to pi$$ off, posting silly pictures and calling silly names. Got better things to do - have fun kids.
Conspiracy theories and denial ill become you.
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Correct.
I'm not going to waste time trying to counter the hysterical hyenas that will spend the whole day telling people to pi$$ off, posting silly pictures and calling silly names. Got better things to do - have fun kids.
Your countering is unconvincing. In fact, your recalcitrance makes you look foolish. Trump is gaslighting you and you just won't see it.
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Michael Savage weighs in:
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He touched her..in the legal sense that is battery. I believe this is a feigned injury....sorry that is the way I see it after watching and watching all the tapes of every angle possible.
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Michael Savage weighs in:
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That's just disgusting. Talk about taking blame-the-victim to a new level.
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He touched her..in the legal sense that is battery. I believe this is a feigned injury....sorry that is the way I see it after watching and watching all the tapes of every angle possible.
Why? I watched the video and I think it's real, particularly since there was an eye witness who corroborates the yank and its effects. Or is this a conspiracy of otherwise top-tier journalists?
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He touched her..in the legal sense that is battery. I believe this is a feigned injury....sorry that is the way I see it after watching and watching all the tapes of every angle possible.
The police believe otherwise. There are grounds for a charge. All this could have been avoided with a simple apology.
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Why? I watched the video and I think it's real, particularly since there was an eye witness who corroborates the yank and its effects. Or is this a conspiracy of otherwise top-tier journalists?
Go grabbed your wife's arm..yank it and squeeze it hard enough to leave bruises...what is her reaction...she would recoil, hold it with her other arm maybe even scream in pain...still not buying it.
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The police believe otherwise. There are grounds for a charge. All this could have been avoided with a simple apology.
Is it the police or the Dem DA.....if this was anyone else and not Trump related this would be nothing...
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None of this matters. Trump team completely lied about this.
Period.
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Outside the twisting and spinning to try to talk out all the evidence for this (such as putting still images of time-frames before the event to give a false impression what happened), the real implication here is that the police and DA are 'in on it'.
Fields levied the charge, but it was the police and DA who chose to file charges.
They aren't just claiming Fields is a liar- they are claiming all the police are too.
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Just a note about the source (I apologize if someone else pointed this out). The website this came from has the primary function to promote and sell a book. I noticed that the only news stories they report on are a couple of tabloid type stories happening recently, the rest is about their book.
In a post a few days ago, they bragged that making these 'viral' posts drove traffic and book sales.
http://www.dangerandplay.com/2016/03/24/does-viral-traffic-increase-book-sales/
In other words, their motive isn't the truth, it is controversy to sell their book- and they admit it.
This makes sense when you look at the other couple of news related posts on that site- all taking the extreme tinfoil, tabloid version of stories to get attention.
Translated- clickbait.
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One thing this frame by frame shows is that she did not fall to the ground or even look like it bothered her...if you leave bruises it's gonna hurt...she doesn't look like she's in any pain or even holding her arm..just my opinion
She wasn't pulled down as she claimed either. What's in her right hand? Did she have press credentials visible?
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. I noticed that the only news stories they report on are a couple of tabloid type stories happening recently, the rest is about their book.
Translated- clickbait.
No different than some posters here or other so-called news sites.
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The police believe otherwise. There are grounds for a charge. All this could have been avoided with a simple apology.
According to whom, the alleged victim who lied about getting pulled down?
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No different than some posters here or other so-called news sites.
Glad you admit the truth about the false narrative conspiracy theory the website is pushing.
:bsflag:
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She wasn't pulled down as she claimed either. What's in her right hand? Did she have press credentials visible?
Questions, questions, questions! Lots of questions! Full of all sorts of implications!
If the SS thought she might be a threat, why was Lewandowski the one grabbing her? Maybe he didn't want the tough questions asked?
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She wasn't pulled down as she claimed either. What's in her right hand? Did she have press credentials visible?
She didn't claim she was pulled down, she said she was almost pulled down. Video shows that when Corey yanks her back.
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He touched her..in the legal sense that is battery. I believe this is a feigned injury....sorry that is the way I see it after watching and watching all the tapes of every angle possible.
What about the bruises on her arm? If he grabbed her on the arm (he did) and pulled her (he did), and she got bruised from it, that's far more significant than just a gentle tug.
I bruise very easily, and it would still take a pretty hard grab to make my arm bruise.
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What about the bruises on her arm? If he grabbed her on the arm (he did) and pulled her (he did), and she got bruised from it, that's far more significant than just a gentle tug.
I bruise very easily, and it would still take a pretty hard grab to make my arm bruise.
I bruise easily to...she could have had those bruises already....
I want to know why she waited 2 days to file a report...I sure would have if I had bruises but that's just me.
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I bruise easily to...she could have had those bruises already....
I want to know why she waited 2 days to file a report...I sure would have if I had bruises but that's just me.
I guess we'll have to wait to find out.
If those bruises are fingerprints are at the right angle, we'll know who made them, and he'll probably be convicted of battery.
Trump's making a big mistake by going after the victim like he is. His 73% disapproval rating among women is going to keep going up.
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I guess we'll have to wait to find out.
If those bruises are fingerprints are at the right angle, we'll know who made them, and he'll probably be convicted of battery.
Trump's making a big mistake by going after the victim like he is. His 73% disapproval rating among women is going to keep going up.
Yeah, time will tell...if he is guilty he needs to be punished.
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Yeah, time will tell...if he is guilty he needs to be punished.
I'm glad the cops are taking it seriously. If it's a scam, nothing will come of it. If she really got hurt, he needs to be held accountable.
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No one has mentioned in that video, how she just kept on texting, without missing a beat, while she wss being moved, yet she was manhandled? :pondering:
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No one has mentioned in that video, how she just kept on texting, without missing a beat, while she wss being moved, yet she was manhandled? :pondering:
So now you think the other journalist who was an eye witness was part of a vast conspiracy to frame Trump. Are you serious?
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She didn't claim she was pulled down, she said she was almost pulled down. Video shows that when Corey yanks her back.
She said she was pulled/yanked down. She's a liar. Don't you anti-Trumps read?
http://www.breitbart.com/big-journalism/2016/03/10/3276486/
Michelle Fields: In Her Own Words
Someone had grabbed me tightly by the arm and yanked me down. I almost fell to the ground, but was able to maintain my balance. Nonetheless, I was shaken.
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I bruise easily to...she could have had those bruises already....
I want to know why she waited 2 days to file a report...I sure would have if I had bruises but that's just me.
You're not supposed to ask questions like that. The fact is she lied about what happened. The prosecutor is going to look like a fool if he/she decides to prosecute this charge.
She said she was pulled/yanked down.
http://www.breitbart.com/big-journalism/2016/03/10/3276486/
Michelle Fields: In Her Own Words
Someone had grabbed me tightly by the arm and yanked me down. I almost fell to the ground, but was able to maintain my balance. Nonetheless, I was shaken.
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Why did she wait 2 days?
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So now you think the other journalist who was an eye witness was part of a vast conspiracy to frame Trump. Are you serious?
The true believers have themselves worked up into an orgasm of self-righteousness.
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Why did she wait 2 days?
Because she is a stupid lying whore that was waiting for Ted Cruz's check to clear. The check lyin' Ted gave her to fabricate her story. What a pig.
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Because she is a stupid lying whore that was waiting for Ted Cruz's check to clear. The check lyin' Ted gave her to fabricate her story. What a pig.
Is that necessary? Can't you just leave it at lying drama queen?
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She did react right away. Their reaction to her reaction is why she filed charges. He deserved the charges right away. It is to her credit that she started out just seeking sunlight and an apology from him.
They called her a liar and said if she were telling the truth, why didn't she file charges. So she filed charges.
Why did Brietbart get rid of her?
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Why did Brietbart get rid of her?
Breitbart did not get rid of her. She and Ben Shapiro quit the same day.
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Why did Brietbart get rid of her?
She resigned I thought?
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She said she was pulled/yanked down. She's a liar. Don't you anti-Trumps read?
http://www.breitbart.com/big-journalism/2016/03/10/3276486/
Michelle Fields: In Her Own Words
Someone had grabbed me tightly by the arm and yanked me down. I almost fell to the ground, but was able to maintain my balance. Nonetheless, I was shaken.
"I almost fell"'means she said she did not fall. What is it with Trump worshippers that they cannot deal with facts, with the fact that Saint Trump has feet of the dirtiest clay.
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While the site initially called on Lewandowski to apologize, it later argued that video of the moments before the alleged incident proved Lewandowski’s innocence. Then, when subsequent video showed Lewandowski reaching for Fields’s arm, the site seemed to acknowledge that it had spoken too soon. It proceeded to forbid its staffers from speaking at all. According to BuzzFeed, some writers who publicly defended Fields were threatened with firing.
http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2016/03/michelle-fields-resigns-from-breitbart.html#
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Why did she wait 2 days?
Why does anyone wait any time at all before going to the police. Your question smacks of the old smear that used to be used against women who had been raped and who waited a few days before going to the police: "she's making t up," or "she must have liked it but had second thoughts and now just wants to get the guy."
There isn't anything that makes it any less a crime because she didn't report it immediately. In fact, he could be charged by any cop who saw the video and read the eyewitness transcript even if she never reported it at all. The victim doesn't need to file a complaint for a crime to be prosecuted.
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Why does anyone wait any time at all before going to the police. Your question smacks of the old smear that used to be used against women who had been raped and who waited a few days before going to the police: "she's making t up," or "she must have liked it but had second thoughts and now just wants to get the guy."
There isn't anything that makes it any less a crime because she didn't report it immediately. In fact, he could be charged by any cop who saw the video and read the eyewitness transcript even if she never reported it at all. The victim doesn't need to file a complaint for a crime to be prosecuted.
By her waiting 2 days is suspect for me.
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By her waiting 2 days is suspect for me.
Two days isn't long to wait for an apology......
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Is that necessary? Can't you just leave it at lying drama queen?
Nope. I like to use the language of your favorite candidate. Donny "She's a fat pig" Trump.
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"I almost fell"'means she said she did not fall. What is it with Trump worshippers that they cannot deal with facts, with the fact that Saint Trump has feet of the dirtiest clay.
Try to focus on what she said. She lied.
Michelle Fields: In Her Own Words
Someone had grabbed me tightly by the arm and yanked me down. I almost fell to the ground, but was able to maintain my balance. Nonetheless, I was shaken.
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Two days isn't long to wait for an apology......
It is when the one waiting is a liar.
Michelle Fields: In Her Own Words
Someone had grabbed me tightly by the arm and yanked me down. I almost fell to the ground, but was able to maintain my balance. Nonetheless, I was shaken.
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Nope. I like to use the language of your favorite candidate. Donny "She's a fat pig" Trump.
Your admission of hypocrisy is revealing.
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Your admission of hypocrisy is revealing.
No hypocrisy. I got to get down into the bottom of the sewer with my vernacular to communicate with Trump supporters. Same as speaking French in Paris and German in Munich.
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It is when the one waiting is a liar.
Michelle Fields: In Her Own Words
Someone had grabbed me tightly by the arm and yanked me down. I almost fell to the ground, but was able to maintain my balance. Nonetheless, I was shaken.
I notice that you are fixated on this timespan between the event and the charges being filed but not a single word about how Trump has changed his story on this no less than 6 specific times on what happened.
This sort of logic reminds me of a famous quote...."I love the poorly educated."- Donny Trump
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Two days isn't long to wait for an apology......
She doesn't deserve one. She is a liar.
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She doesn't deserve one. She is a liar.
Not according to the security video and the police.
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She doesn't deserve one. She is a liar.
She is a liar but the corrupt lobbyist Corey who first said he never touched her and didn't know her, then told Trumpbart's Matt Boyle that he did grab her but didn't know she was a Trumpbarter, then said he he did touch her but it was just a tap and now claims she needs to toughen up is as honest as they come.
This is the same Lewdcreepowski that has been caught manhandling several people this campaign season.
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No hypocrisy. I got to get down into the bottom of the sewer with my vernacular to communicate with Trump supporters. Same as speaking French in Paris and German in Munich.
Only in your mind. I've seen very little vulgarity from Trump supporters at this forum. I'll bet the mods would back me on that.
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She doesn't deserve one. She is a liar.
Good lord, no wonder so few decent people go into politics!
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I notice that you are fixated on this timespan between the event and the charges being filed but not a single word about how Trump has changed his story on this no less than 6 specific times on what happened.
This sort of logic reminds me of a famous quote...."I love the poorly educated."- Donny Trump
I'm fixated on what Ms. Fields stated in her own words. We know that you don't care about her lies.
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Only in your mind. I've seen very little vulgarity from Trump supporters at this forum. I'll bet the mods would back me on that.
I am following your savior Trumps way of speaking. If it is so glamorous that it has you following him so devoutly, it obviously is a swell way to convey thoughts on a forum.
BTW, do you also like to treat woman like shit or is that just a quality you reserve for your Presidential candidates?
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Well this thread certainly went into the crapper. We have the usuall suspects lining up on each side facing off tearing at each other with there version of the "FACTS"....
Is there a winner yet? No. will there be a winner. No.
You all look like bickering assholes.
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Not according to the security video and the police.
No you are incorrect. Fields is a liar.
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Not according to the security video and the police.
You and I are looking at 2 different videos then.
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You and I are looking at 2 different videos then.
No, the one you posted above shows him grabbing her at the very end. Her motion is altered, her blouse bunches up and she turns towards him. Oh, and you can see his hand on her.
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I bruise easily to...she could have had those bruises already....
I want to know why she waited 2 days to file a report...I sure would have if I had bruises but that's just me.
She went to Breitbart first to see if they would back her and ask Trump for an apology. Neither happened and Trump and Corey doubled-down.
Then she went to the police to file, as there were no other options (other than to just 'suck it up'.)
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I bruise easily to...she could have had those bruises already....
I want to know why she waited 2 days to file a report...I sure would have if I had bruises but that's just me.
My guess is that she waited to see if Trump and Co. would apologize. When they denied, people attacked her saying "why didn't she file a police report".
Then she did. And it proved that the Trump Crew is a bunch of complete scumbags.
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You and I are looking at 2 different videos then.
I saw the official hotel security video, which clearly shows she was pulled off balance as she merely walked alongside Trump.
And as I said, the police are dealing with it seriously, as they should. No politics should be involved in a clear case of battery.
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The cult of Saint Trump knows no bounds.
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So only people whom you label "conservative" are entitled to judge him; everyone who is "GOPe" is not. How convenient.
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I will repeat. You people are watching a whole different video than I am......carry on!
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So only people whom you label "conservative" are entitled to judge him; everyone who is "GOPe" is not. How convenient.
The GOPe types have lost all credibility with me. Conservative has nothing to do with them, hasn't for decades.
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I will repeat. You people are watching a whole different video than I am......carry on!
That video shows Lewandowski touching her in a way that most people would consider unwanted. That is all that is required for simple battery in Florida. Go read the damned statute and stop trying to defend the indefensible.
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Only in your mind. I've seen very little vulgarity from Trump supporters at this forum. I'll bet the mods would back me on that.
I'm not even to within a thousand nautical miles of supporting Donaldus Minimus,
but I will say this, along the credit where due maxim: On this forum, at least, his
supporters aren't even to within a thousand nautical miles of pure vulgarity. They
may be upholding and defending that for which there is no defense when all is
said and done, but they're not anywhere near their own candidate's volume of
vulgarity.
Elsewhere, of course, the mileage varies drastically enough.
You can find vulgarians among the supporters of any candidate, really, but around
here vulgarity on behalf of Donaldus Minimus or, really, any candidate, is isolated.
But then why would anyone want to reduce themselves to the level of a political
candidate? (In the immortal words of Sen. Beauregard Claghorn, that's a joke,
son . . .)
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Hi Myst,
I respect your opinion. You have always been a reasoned voice in the wilderness.
These are 2 things that come to my mind on this incident.
1. The idea that for a second or two after the incident she continued forward as if nothing happened. This is very common, has happened to me on many occasions whether it be an accidental injury, an insult, or what-ever.
2. Keep that in mind and watch the Police released video where there is absolutely no doubt she was yanked backwards by Cory.
Also she was already recording as she tried to talk to Trump when the reporter asked her about what Corey had just done.
Again the police released video is crystal clear on what Corey did. But, as everyone has said, if he had just apologized no-one would have thought about it again. But, instead they go out and smear the reporter and lie about what happened. Remember he flat out said that he did not touch her?? That is a yuge lie.
Are the SSA touching Ms.Fields? Who "yanked her downward" making her lose her balance and nearly falling on the floor as she has claimed? Where does that occur in the video?
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The GOPe types have lost all credibility with me. Conservative has nothing to do with them, hasn't for decades.
A long time ago, in a different forum, I started a thread with a simple question: "what makes an individual a conservative?"
Mind you, this was posted in a conservative forum.
Within a matter of twenty posts or so, the fights broke out, with everyone basically saying that everyone else posting their definition of what conservatism was to them, and the ideology's parameters wasn't a "true" conservative.
"Conservatism" is a narrow definition created by each individual that you ask to suit their own ideas of how things should be.
I consider myself as being very much a conservative, but since I am also very strongly socially liberal, most social conservatives label me a liberal, even radically liberal.
I defend my socially liberal ideas by saying that i promote personal liberties over conservative statism since in my definition of conservatism there is no room for statism at all.
The GOP is not, nor was it ever supposed to be as conservative as the most conservative ideologies found in the right. The GOP is made up of a wide array of center-right ideologies all with a seat at the table, and with the right wing of the party both diminishing in size and moving even further right, there is massive dissonance in the Party itself.
Mind you that however "not conservative" you may see the GOP as being, the absence of the GOP will spell disaster for this nation.
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A long time ago, in a different forum, I started a thread with a simple question: "what makes an individual a conservative?"
Luis, we go back quite a ways. What were some of the other forums you used to post on. I was banned from FR years ago. Some of the other forums where I was active have disappeared, were closed or became places I no longer wanted to be..
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I defend my socially liberal ideas by saying that i promote personal liberties over conservative statism since in my definition of conservatism there is no room for statism at all.
You may have seen me say this elsewhere in the past, but I had always phrased it this way:
I believe in freedom.
I believe in individual rights and responsibilities.
And, I believe in a properly-construed government (and not an improperly-consecrated State) whose sole
legitimate business---other than defending us from enemies actual and provably iminent from abroad---is to
stay the hell out of your business, my business, every citizen's business, until or unless one citizen would
obstruct or abrogate another citizens equivalent rights.
I have yet to see a single presidential aspirant in either major party this year who has expressed anything
such as that.
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You may have seen me say this elsewhere in the past, but I had always phrased it this way:
I believe in freedom.
I believe in individual rights and responsibilities.
And, I believe in a properly-construed government (and not an improperly-consecrated State) whose sole
legitimate business---other than defending us from enemies actual and provably iminent from abroad---is to
stay the hell out of your business, my business, every citizen's business, until or unless one citizen would
obstruct or abrogate another citizens equivalent rights.
I have yet to see a single presidential aspirant in either major party this year who has expressed anything
such as that.
You and I know that will never occur. Too many laws would need to be rescinded. Too many oxen would be gored.
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Luis, we go back quite a ways. What were some of the other forums you used to post on. I was banned from FR years ago. Some of the other forums where I was active have disappeared, were closed or became places I no longer wanted to be..
No big surprise there.
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You and I know that will never occur. Too many laws would need to be rescinded.
Oh, the horror! ;)
Too many oxen would be gored.
Well, I admit that would be one helluva cleanup job . . . ;)
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You and I know that will never occur. Too many laws would need to be rescinded. Too many oxen would be gored.
Sometimes the right thing is hard to do. Still should be done.
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Sometimes the right thing is hard to do. Still should be done.
Unfortunately and obviously the GOP has neither the will or fortitude to do the right thing.
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Unfortunately and obviously the GOP has neither the will or fortitude to do the right thing.
The "GOP" can't do the right thing. It's the individuals who comprise the GOP who must do the right thing.
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The "GOP" can't do the right thing. It's the individuals who comprise the GOP who must do the right thing.
So you admit that there just aren't many individuals in the GOP willing to do the right thing. Think that may be the reason Trump has gained so much support?
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So you admit that there just aren't many individuals in the GOP willing to do the right thing. Think that may be the reason Trump has gained so much support?
Trump has the support of 37% of the GOP. That's not much support.
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Trump has the support of 37% of the GOP. That's not much support.
That's not much? That's over one third and there are 3 remaining candidates.
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So you admit that there just aren't many individuals in the GOP willing to do the right thing. Think that may be the reason Trump has gained so much support?
No, you missed the point. The entity GOP can't do the right thing or wrong thing. Only the people who comprise the GOP can.
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That's not much? That's over one third and there are 3 remaining candidates.
By my math, 63% is bigger than 37%. That's how many are NOT voting for Trump.
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By my math, 63% is bigger than 37%. That's how many are NOT voting for Trump.
There are 3 candidates. One has 37% the other two split 63%. So who doesn't have much support? Your math is limited by your extreme bias.
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There are 3 candidates. One has 37% the other two split 63%. So who doesn't have much support? Your math is limited by your extreme bias.
So? Trump only had 35% when there were six people in the race. How come Trump can't increase his percentages? He's at 30% in Wisconsin.
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No, you missed the point. The entity GOP can't do the right thing or wrong thing. Only the people who comprise the GOP can.
The point is, there just aren't enough people who comprise the GOP who are willing to do the right thing and make the GOP as a whole do the right thing. The GOP is lacking strong individual leadership and the will to do the right things.
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So? Trump only had 35% when there were six people in the race. How come Trump can't increase his percentages? He's at 30% in Wisconsin.
So? If he is so weak and disliked, why are you so obsessed with his percentages and numbers?
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So? If he is so weak and disliked, why are you so obsessed with his percentages and numbers?
Because I want him at 10%.
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Because I want him at 10%.
Good luck with that. Knock yourself out.
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There are 3 candidates. One has 37% the other two split 63%. So who doesn't have much support? Your math is limited by your extreme bias.
Yep, that argument is even stronger against either Cruz or Kasich but that TDS is incurable, I tell ya... :silly:
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Yep, that argument is even stronger against either Cruz or Kasich but that TDS is incurable, I tell ya... :silly:
Right....... the mental illness that all of us pro-life, pro-small government, pro-ethics, anti-socialized medicine, anti-dream act, anti-pathological liar people have.
If being against a vulgar deceitful Democrat for President makes us mentally ill in your book, Dan.... GOOD for us!
Here's to principles that won't be overcome by the power of a snake oil salesman! :patriot:
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By my math, 63% is bigger than 37%. That's how many are NOT voting for Trump.
Oh, those silly facts! Math is clearly not the strong suit of that particular Trump disciple.