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Title: The Comey memo offers no proof for impeachment of Trump ....By Jonathan Turley,
Post by: mystery-ak on May 17, 2017, 01:19:38 pm
OPINION: The Comey memo offers no proof for impeachment of Trump
By Jonathan Turley, opinion contributor - 05/17/17 06:00 AM EDT

With the scandal du jour of the Comey memo, President Donald Trump’s trip to Saudi Arabia looks less like a diplomatic flight as fleeing the jurisdiction. For the first time, the Comey memo pushes the litany of controversies surrounding Trump into the scope of the United States criminal code.

However, if this is food for obstruction of justice, it is still an awfully thin soup. Some commentators seem to be alleging criminal conduct in office or calling for impeachment before Trump completed the words of his inaugural oath of office. Not surprising, within minutes of the New York Times report, the response was a chorus of breathless “gotcha” announcements. But this memo is neither the Pentagon Papers nor the Watergate tapes. Indeed, it raises as many questions for Comey as it does Trump in terms of the alleged underlying conduct.

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Title: Re: The Comey memo offers no proof for impeachment of Trump ....By Jonathan Turley,
Post by: Sanguine on May 17, 2017, 01:45:06 pm
That's how I understand it.  It may speak to integrity and competence, but there is nothing impeachable there.
Title: Re: The Comey memo offers no proof for impeachment of Trump ....By Jonathan Turley,
Post by: Idiot on May 17, 2017, 01:51:06 pm
That's how I understand it.  It may speak to integrity and competence, but there is nothing impeachable there.

Tell that to Good Morning America, who spent the entire first hour with "White House in turmoil".
Title: Re: The Comey memo offers no proof for impeachment of Trump ....By Jonathan Turley,
Post by: skeeter on May 17, 2017, 01:53:18 pm
Impeachment is not meant to be an alternative for criminal cases that cannot be submitted to a grand jury. It is also not meant to be politics by other means. Finally, it is not a vehicle to redo an election for those with morning-after regrets. Ironically, for those who charge that Trump has compromised the legal system, the same objection can be made over demands for criminal charges or impeachment based on his still undisclosed memo.
Title: Re: The Comey memo offers no proof for impeachment of Trump ....By Jonathan Turley,
Post by: driftdiver on May 17, 2017, 01:55:03 pm
Do the Dems really want a President Pence?
Title: Re: The Comey memo offers no proof for impeachment of Trump ....By Jonathan Turley,
Post by: DCPatriot on May 17, 2017, 02:00:53 pm
Do the Dems really want a President Pence?

Voting Impeachment and voting to convict are two separate items, @driftdiver

If Donald Trump turns this economy around and together with Vlad, destroys ISIL and North Korea's ability to become a nuke power...."Impeachment", for President Trump, would be a badge of honor.
Title: Re: The Comey memo offers no proof for impeachment of Trump ....By Jonathan Turley,
Post by: Sanguine on May 17, 2017, 02:05:07 pm
Tell that to Good Morning America, who spent the entire first hour with "White House in turmoil".

Hey, I'm just a normal tax-paying citizen in flyover country.  They don't really believe I even exist.
Title: Re: The Comey memo offers no proof for impeachment of Trump ....By Jonathan Turley,
Post by: XenaLee on May 17, 2017, 02:05:48 pm
Do the Dems really want a President Pence?

The leftists are moist-dreaming that if they create enough faux scandals and overblown "bombshell gotchas" via their 24/7 media assault ..... they can create the illusion among voters that Trump is impeachable.   They are crafting the meme and the PR nightmare that they hope (dream) will bring down Trump and the GOP ..... first in 2018 and then again in 2020.  It won't work (I don't think)....but since when has reality ever stopped the rabid left in America from trying ANY thing?

It's their standard game of 'throw constant crap and hope enough of it sticks'.  Problem is.... most sane Americans already know how deceitful this lamestream media is and has been for decades.

Title: Re: The Comey memo offers no proof for impeachment of Trump ....By Jonathan Turley,
Post by: driftdiver on May 17, 2017, 02:11:19 pm
Voting Impeachment and voting to convict are two separate items, @driftdiver


@DCPatriot
Yes I know that Capt Obvious.

This is simply to take the focus off the real issues.   If he's playing defense and changing his staff then he won't be pushing for a repeal of Obamacare or the wall, or anything else they don't want him to do.

Title: Re: The Comey memo offers no proof for impeachment of Trump ....By Jonathan Turley,
Post by: Weird Tolkienish Figure on May 17, 2017, 02:16:31 pm
Has anyone even seen the memo yet? I keep hearing heresay about it.
Title: Re: The Comey memo offers no proof for impeachment of Trump ....By Jonathan Turley,
Post by: Weird Tolkienish Figure on May 17, 2017, 02:17:02 pm
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Title: Re: The Comey memo offers no proof for impeachment of Trump ....By Jonathan Turley,
Post by: driftdiver on May 17, 2017, 02:24:40 pm
Has anyone even seen the memo yet? I keep hearing heresay about it.

The NYT hadn't even seen the memo.  They simply talked with a guy who claimed to have seen the memo.
Title: Re: The Comey memo offers no proof for impeachment of Trump ....By Jonathan Turley,
Post by: Weird Tolkienish Figure on May 17, 2017, 02:27:48 pm
The NYT hadn't even seen the memo.  They simply talked with a guy who claimed to have seen the memo.

Here's the problem as I see it:

1) The media wants us to get upset about a memo nobody has even seen. Just like they wanted us up in arms about Russia and a host of other stuff... with no proof.

2) Trump is too stupid to see this apparently, and makes the situation worse by lying, or attacking on Twitter.
Title: Re: The Comey memo offers no proof for impeachment of Trump ....By Jonathan Turley,
Post by: driftdiver on May 17, 2017, 06:46:26 pm
Here's the problem as I see it:

1) The media wants us to get upset about a memo nobody has even seen. Just like they wanted us up in arms about Russia and a host of other stuff... with no proof.

2) Trump is too stupid to see this apparently, and makes the situation worse by lying, or attacking on Twitter.

Trumps on the defense.  He doesn't know how to play defense.
Title: Re: The Comey memo offers no proof for impeachment of Trump ....By Jonathan Turley,
Post by: corbe on May 17, 2017, 06:55:49 pm
Trumps on the defense.  He doesn't know how to play defense.

   There's a lesson in here for Sen. Cruz, somewhere, @driftdiver .
Title: Re: The Comey memo offers no proof for impeachment of Trump ....By Jonathan Turley,
Post by: driftdiver on May 17, 2017, 08:18:59 pm
   There's a lesson in here for Sen. Cruz, somewhere, @driftdiver .

IMO Cruz is fundamentally a good guy.  I mean aside from his father who likes to be involved with Presidential assassinations.

He's a facts and figures guy.   That comes across as stuffy and boring in the media.  Trump is all fluff, easy to put that across in 15 seconds.
Title: Re: The Comey memo offers no proof for impeachment of Trump ....By Jonathan Turley,
Post by: 240B on May 17, 2017, 08:49:39 pm
"The Comey Memo" a.k.a. the Ghost memo


That the press keeps talking about as if they are talking about something as definitive as the Bible, is a myth. It is all based on some anonymous phone call which is itself a myth. The whole issue is made-up bullshit.