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Title: The True Story: Donald Trump Did Not Mock a Reporter’s Disability
Post by: R4 TrumPence on July 29, 2016, 09:05:52 am
PLEASE READ THE WHOLE STORY AND WATCH VIDEOS, BEFORE YOU REPLY! REALLY! IF YOU REPLY AND HAVEN'T READ YOU MIGHT LOOK FOOLISH, JUST SAYIN!

The True Story: Donald Trump Did Not Mock a Reporter’s Disability
http://www.catholics4trump.com/the-true-story-donald-trump-did-not-mock-a-reporters-disability/

At the Democratic National Convention speakers are repeating the claim, amplified ad nauseam by the left and establishment GOP opponents over the past year, that Donald Trump mocked the disability of New York Times reporter, Serge Kovaleski. This accusation has served as a very convenient tool to both smear Trump’s character and to avoid having to confront him on substantive political issues. But is it true? Here is the story the media is not telling you.

It all started  on November 21, 2015 when, at a rally, Trump said he remembered seeing reports of Arab Americans celebrating the 9/11 terror attacks on rooftops in New Jersey shortly after the twin towers fell. As he told George Stephanopolous in an interview the next day on ABC’s “This Week”:
Title: Re: The True Story: Donald Trump Did Not Mock a Reporter’s Disability
Post by: Hoodat on July 29, 2016, 09:17:36 am
Who wrote this?
Title: Re: The True Story: Donald Trump Did Not Mock a Reporter’s Disability
Post by: Hoodat on July 29, 2016, 09:50:34 am
I assume the author was too much of a coward to leave his/her name.

The author opens up - not with the mocking event - but instead tries to lay the groundwork that the press omits part of the story by regurgitating the comments Trump made last November about people in New Jersey celebrating the 9/11 attacks and how Serge Kovaleski backed up his account with a story written at the time but now is saying he can't remember.

Yet the author omits part of the story herself.  Kovaleski wasn't asked about the Trump comment in the story.  He was asked about a statement Trump made at a Birmingham rally on November 21.  At that rally, Trump said:

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"I watched when the World Trade Center came tumbling down, and I watched in Jersey City, New Jersey, where thousands and thousands of people were cheering as that building was coming down”

When Kovaleski was asked about this statement by the Washington Post, he responded, “I certainly do not remember anyone saying that thousands or even hundreds of people were celebrating,” said Serge Kovaleski, one of the reporters. “That was not the case, as best as I can remember.”

So the author has removed the statement that Kovaleski was asked about, and substituted another statement in its place.  This is what real Catholics refer to as L-Y-I-N-G.

Shall I read further?  Or can we stop now.  Seriously, when you can't even get out of the gate before you start lying, what's the point?
Title: Re: The True Story: Donald Trump Did Not Mock a Reporter’s Disability
Post by: Hoodat on July 29, 2016, 09:54:05 am
Dear Moderator,

We really need a new category in our Briefing Room tree for articles such as this.  Instead of polluting the Politics folder, I strongly suggest we file this under the heading 'Lies and Bullshit' so that other members won't confuse this with actual issues going on.  Thanks.

xxxoooxxxooo
Title: Re: The True Story: Donald Trump Did Not Mock a Reporter’s Disability
Post by: oldmomster on July 29, 2016, 10:12:14 am
'Very embarrassing for the media, especially the Washington Post which had done such a great job scouring news reports after 9/11 that they missed their very own story on the subject. It was in this state of embarrassment that the media was desperate to distract from the matter.'

@R4 TrumPence

Doncha just love all the coverage of Clinton Foundation, dead Americans in Benghazi and missing classified emails in WaPo?  oh wait.....
Title: Re: The True Story: Donald Trump Did Not Mock a Reporter’s Disability
Post by: R4 TrumPence on July 29, 2016, 10:13:11 am
Who wrote this?
What is your problem?
I wrote it!!
Now key me delete your post **nononono*
Title: Re: The True Story: Donald Trump Did Not Mock a Reporter’s Disability
Post by: Timber Rattler on July 29, 2016, 10:57:51 am
Yeah.  Right.  Sure.  Whatever.

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-34930042

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uNXgjnBpxGI
Title: Re: The True Story: Donald Trump Did Not Mock a Reporter’s Disability
Post by: RedHead on July 29, 2016, 10:59:45 am
I read the story.  I watched the video.  Anyone who really believes Trump was not mocking the reporter's disability is blind to reality.
Title: Re: The True Story: Donald Trump Did Not Mock a Reporter’s Disability
Post by: HonestJohn on July 29, 2016, 11:08:35 am
Who wrote this?

A PAC for Trump. (catholics4trump)

This isn't news, but propaganda.

Title: Re: The True Story: Donald Trump Did Not Mock a Reporter’s Disability
Post by: RedHead on July 29, 2016, 11:11:09 am
Your article is very selective with the truth.  It starts with this part:

"It all started  on November 21, 2015 when, at a rally, Trump said he remembered seeing reports of Arab Americans celebrating the 9/11 terror attacks on rooftops in New Jersey shortly after the twin towers fell...Stephanopolous and all of the major news outlets immediately denied the existence of any such news reports following 9/11."

What your article left out, and what the transcript of that episode of "This Week" confirms is that Trump claimed he saw thousands of Muslims celebrating in New Jersey.  That is the part that the media immediately denied.  Turns out they were right.

Then it continues:

While he did this, Trump moved his hands around quickly, acting flustered.

Complete crap.  Anyone with half a brain can see that Trump was deliberately imitating, and mocking, Kovaleski's disability.   Flustered people do not move in the spastic actions that Trump imitated.

It's bad enough that your candidate couldn't tell the truth if his life depended on it.  Supporting lies with lies is even worse.
Title: Re: The True Story: Donald Trump Did Not Mock a Reporter’s Disability
Post by: Hoodat on July 29, 2016, 11:23:49 am
What is your problem?
I wrote it!!
Now key me delete your post **nononono*

You deleted my post?  I lay out a case that totally discredits your recreant, fallacious drivel, and you deleted it?  Wow.  Just wow.

Someone exposes your lies, so you censor them.  Unfrigginbelievable.

Not only are you a liar, you are a coward as well.
Title: Re: The True Story: Donald Trump Did Not Mock a Reporter’s Disability
Post by: Hoodat on July 29, 2016, 11:28:29 am
Your article is very selective with the truth.  It starts with this part:

What your article left out, and what the transcript of that episode of "This Week" confirms is that Trump claimed he saw thousands of Muslims celebrating in New Jersey.  That is the part that the media immediately denied.  Turns out they were right.

Correctamundo!  Trump made that statement at a Birmingham rally on Nov 21, and it is that statement that Kovaleski was asked about.  Yet the pusillanimous perfidious author led the readers to believe that Kovaleski was responding to the substituted Trump statement.

This author has been caught red-handed lying for Trump.  That speaks volumes.
Title: Re: The True Story: Donald Trump Did Not Mock a Reporter’s Disability
Post by: Just_Victor on July 29, 2016, 11:41:17 am
Dear Moderator,

We really need a new category in our Briefing Room tree for articles such as this.  Instead of polluting the Politics folder, I strongly suggest we file this under the heading 'Lies and Bullshit' so that other members won't confuse this with actual issues going on.  Thanks.

xxxoooxxxooo

We could call it Lining the Birdcage.
Title: Re: The True Story: Donald Trump Did Not Mock a Reporter’s Disability
Post by: Henry Noel on July 29, 2016, 12:27:52 pm
When my kids were younger and living at home, they would make digging motions every time I'd contort myself trying to "explain" something to their mother.

Keep digging, guys.
Title: Re: The True Story: Donald Trump Did Not Mock a Reporter’s Disability
Post by: ABX on July 29, 2016, 12:27:59 pm
So, if we are to believe this, then Trump wasn't mocking the reporter, he is just spastic on his own. It isn't an act, it was just Trump's own mental issues that caused this. Allrighty then. Not exactly a better prospect. 

(http://afflictor.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/02/Donald-Trump-Mocks-A-Reporter-With-A-Disability-And-Says-He-Doesnt-Remember.gif)

Let's look a bit closer, again, this supposedly isn't Trump mocking someone. The justification is this is how he acts.

(https://img.4plebs.org/boards/pol/image/1448/60/1448606490809.gif)
Title: Re: The True Story: Donald Trump Did Not Mock a Reporter’s Disability
Post by: Henry Noel on July 29, 2016, 12:30:44 pm
So, if we are to believe this, then Trump wasn't mocking the reporter, he is just spastic on his own. It isn't an act, it was just Trump's own mental issues that caused this. Allrighty then. Not exactly a better prospect. 

(http://afflictor.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/02/Donald-Trump-Mocks-A-Reporter-With-A-Disability-And-Says-He-Doesnt-Remember.gif)

Note the people in the audience, who didn't seem too amused. Reminds me of the time when Joan Rivers was doing a standup routine on the Johnny Carson show. She had them rolling in the aisles, until she quipped "I'm so ugly that when I was born my mother took one look at me and demanded an abortion."

At that point the laughter ceased and there was dead, stony silence. You could have heard a pin drop.
Title: Re: The True Story: Donald Trump Did Not Mock a Reporter’s Disability
Post by: Just_Victor on July 29, 2016, 12:36:05 pm
When my kids were younger and living at home, they would make digging motions every time I'd contort myself trying to "explain" something to their mother.

Keep digging, guys.

Defending this is just keeping the issue at the top of the page.

Jussayin'
Title: Re: The True Story: Donald Trump Did Not Mock a Reporter’s Disability
Post by: Neverdul on July 29, 2016, 12:48:51 pm
Just asking. Why was this not posted in Editorial/Opinion?

OK - now to comment after reading the whole thing and watching the videos:

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In Jersey City, within hours of two jetliners’ plowing into the World Trade Center, law enforcement authorities detained and questioned a number of people who were allegedly seen celebrating the attacks and holding tailgate-style parties on rooftops while they watched the devastation on the other side of the river.

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“I certainly do not remember anyone saying that thousands or even hundreds of people were celebrating,” said Serge Kovaleski, one of the reporters. “That was not the case, as best as I can remember.”

I don’t see the contradiction here or where Kovaleski was backtracking.  “A number of people” doesn’t necessarily equate or mean thousands or even hundreds.

Quote
…Just a couple of blocks away from that Jersey City apartment the F.B.I. raided yesterday and had evidence removed, there is another apartment building, one that investigators told me, quote, was swarming with suspects — suspects who I’m told were cheering on the roof when they saw the planes slam into the Trade Center. Police were called to the building by neighbors and found eight men celebrating , six of them tenants in the building.

Breitbart commentary? Really. Well there is a completely unbiased source.  /s

Next- the videos of Trump mocking Cruz and mocking the general do not look anything like his mocking of Kovaleski.  The key is the way Trump held his hand, his right hand and in exactly the same manner as with Kovaleski’s disability.

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'Now the poor guy, you gotta see this guy: "Uh, I don’t know what I said. I don’t remember." He’s going, "I don’t remember. Maybe that’s what I said."'
 

Note that Trump didn’t say “you gotta read this guy” or you gotta listen to this guy” but “you gotta SEE this guy”.

I will also point out that Trump lied about not knowing who Kovaleski was or ever having met him.

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The award-winning veteran reporter in question, Serge Kovalski, said he has not only known Trump for decades, but that he’s interviewed the celebrity real estate mogul enough times over the years to claim a familiar rapport. 

“Donald and I were on a first-name basis for years,” Kovaleski said in an interview with The Times. “I’ve interviewed him in his office … I’ve talked to him at press conferences. All in all, I would say around a dozen times, I’ve interacted with him as a reporter while I was at The Daily News.”

Trump, for his part, insists that he was merely acting out the part of a flustered reporter. “I have no idea who this reporter, Serge Kovalski [sic] is, what he looks like or his level of intelligence,” Trump said in a statement released Thursday. He added: “Despite having one of the all-time great memories I certainly do not remember him.”

http://www.msnbc.com/msnbc/reporter-disabilities-disputes-trumps-claim-they-didnt-know-each-other (http://www.msnbc.com/msnbc/reporter-disabilities-disputes-trumps-claim-they-didnt-know-each-other)

http://www.nydailynews.com/new-york/trump-denies-mocking-disabled-reporter-article-1.2447814

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Thus, Trump’s impersonations of a flustered reporter several months ago was turned into a left-wing and Establishment GOP narrative whereby Trump somehow hates the disabled. This despite the fact that Trump has given millions to charities that help the disabled including raising nearly six million dollars for Wounded Warriors just recently, a million of which was his own money. In addition, Liz Crokin, a journalist that has covered Donald trump for ten years recalls the following:

For one thing, the Trump campaign over exaggerated the amount of money raised for veterans and Trump then only ponied upped his $1 million after getting criticism for not having done so.  And I’d still like to see if it was a personal check from Trump or from his Donald J. Trump Foundation, if the latter, it wouldn’t be his own money. If Trump were to release his tax returns, perhaps that would put the issue to rest.

Also note that most of Trump’s donations to charities come from his foundation, a foundation that he does not give much if any money to personally and includes donations to some very questionable “charities” like GLADSEN. Look them up sometime.

As to Andrew Ten, you might want to read up on his father, Harold Ten who was charged by the Securities and Exchange Commission (SEC) of taking part in a scheme that "allowed a ring of brokers, investment advisers and their clients to profit from the deaths of terminally ill patients"

http://www.timesofisrael.com/for-tale-of-jewish-child-saved-by-trump-a-tragic-end/ (http://www.timesofisrael.com/for-tale-of-jewish-child-saved-by-trump-a-tragic-end/)


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In 2000, Maury Povich featured a little girl named Megan who struggled with Brittle Bone Disease on his show and Trump happened to be watching. Trump said the little girl’s story and positive attitude touched his heart. So he contacted Maury and gifted the little girl and her family with a very generous check…

I am so glad that our GOP candidate takes the time to watch the Maury Povich show. Where does he find the time between reading People and watching Oprah?
Title: Re: The True Story: Donald Trump Did Not Mock a Reporter’s Disability
Post by: Silver Pines on July 29, 2016, 12:51:05 pm
Sorry, but this is an insult to my intelligence.  Please don't even try with this.

Republicans are now willing to excuse and justify the absolute worst behavior in order to support Trump.  It's a tragedy to watch.

The GOP has forever lost the right to talk about morals and values.
Title: Re: The True Story: Donald Trump Did Not Mock a Reporter’s Disability
Post by: sinkspur on July 29, 2016, 12:53:01 pm
If you're explainin' you're losin'. 

Of course Trump mocked the reporter.  He NEVER DENIED IT except to say he didn't know the guy.  Turns out he did.

Why bring this up now? After this week the Trump campaign must be in a bit of a panic.

That Democrat Convention was the best Republican Convention I've ever seen.
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Title: Re: The True Story: Donald Trump Did Not Mock a Reporter’s Disability
Post by: Silver Pines on July 29, 2016, 12:53:57 pm
So, if we are to believe this, then Trump wasn't mocking the reporter, he is just spastic on his own. It isn't an act, it was just Trump's own mental issues that caused this. Allrighty then. Not exactly a better prospect. 

(http://afflictor.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/02/Donald-Trump-Mocks-A-Reporter-With-A-Disability-And-Says-He-Doesnt-Remember.gif)

Let's look a bit closer, again, this supposedly isn't Trump mocking someone. The justification is this is how he acts.

(https://img.4plebs.org/boards/pol/image/1448/60/1448606490809.gif)


Every time I see this I get angry.  What a disgusting, vile garbage dump of a human being.  And the braying morons in his audience ate it up.

I'm supposed to ally myself with that?  Not a chance in hell.
Title: Re: The True Story: Donald Trump Did Not Mock a Reporter’s Disability
Post by: Silver Pines on July 29, 2016, 12:55:24 pm
If you're explainin' you're losin'. 

Of course Trump mocked the reporter.  He NEVER DENIED IT except to say he didn't know the guy.  Turns out he did.

Why bring this up now? After this week the Trump campaign must be in a bit of a panic.

That Democrat Convention was the best Republican Convention I've ever seen.
'


Republicans gave up their values when they nominated Trump, so the Democrats took the opportunity to co-opt them.  Good job, Trump fans.
Title: Re: The True Story: Donald Trump Did Not Mock a Reporter’s Disability
Post by: don-o on July 29, 2016, 12:57:07 pm
This is not helping Trump. Please someone tell me that Trump himself is not currently  responding to this.  It is indefensible, so he and his supporters need to shut up if apology is not in his lexicon.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uNXgjnBpxGI

Title: Re: The True Story: Donald Trump Did Not Mock a Reporter’s Disability
Post by: bolobaby on July 29, 2016, 12:59:05 pm
Gee - who am I going to believe? You, or my lyin' eyes?

Trump, the puerile, petulant man-child mocked the reporter. Case closed.

Say what you will about GWB, but I really, really long for and miss the class he exuded from the Oval Office.
Title: Re: The True Story: Donald Trump Did Not Mock a Reporter’s Disability
Post by: ABX on July 29, 2016, 12:59:09 pm

Republicans gave up their values when they nominated Trump, so the Democrats took the opportunity to co-opt them.  Good job, Trump fans.

Remember, they actually booed the statement 'vote your conscience, vote your values, vote for the Constitution, God bless America' (paraphrased) as though that suggestion was somehow revealed a personal guilt in their soul.


I was considering just riding out the general election and watching the Hillary and Trump side beat each other up with little comment, but two things changed my mind.

That booing incident.
Being told constantly I am not allowed to criticize someone. - especially when I am told 'I will take you out' if I continue criticism.

The latter is almost more dangerous in my mind and usually is my trigger to double down.
Title: Re: The True Story: Donald Trump Did Not Mock a Reporter’s Disability
Post by: Luis Gonzalez on July 29, 2016, 12:59:12 pm
Sorry, but this is an insult to my intelligence.  Please don't even try with this.

Agreed.
Title: Re: The True Story: Donald Trump Did Not Mock a Reporter’s Disability
Post by: For-Q-Clinton on July 29, 2016, 01:04:44 pm
I watched and heard what he said many times.  Clearly he's making fun of the guy.
Title: Re: The True Story: Donald Trump Did Not Mock a Reporter’s Disability
Post by: ABX on July 29, 2016, 01:07:45 pm
Who wrote this?

While there are probably many authors, a little research shows the first author on this site was a Chris Jackson. While a popular name, one thing jumps out is a Chris Jackson who is an Ipsos political communications director for hire who seems to focus on Trump, so this may not be some grassroots blog that popped up from concerned voters but an actual professional campaign communication website.

http://cc.bingj.com/cache.aspx?q=+Chris+Jackson%2c+trump&d=7186639913803&mkt=en-US&setlang=en-US&w=ltQDviZWTbvbDLT9-mSrNCF7u5hIkJdc

http://spotlight.ipsos-na.com/index.php/author/chris-jackson/

Amazing how quickly things are cached by the big search engines. Even here.

Title: Re: The True Story: Donald Trump Did Not Mock a Reporter’s Disability
Post by: don-o on July 29, 2016, 01:15:14 pm
Random blogger. Clinton psyops? It haz smell.

(http://i414.photobucket.com/albums/pp221/drw509/tinfoil_1.jpg)
Title: Re: The True Story: Donald Trump Did Not Mock a Reporter’s Disability
Post by: Polly Ticks on July 29, 2016, 01:19:56 pm
I watched and heard what he said many times.  Clearly he's making fun of the guy.

Absolutely.  Occam's razor.
Title: Re: The True Story: Donald Trump Did Not Mock a Reporter’s Disability
Post by: Silver Pines on July 29, 2016, 01:20:45 pm
Remember, they actually booed the statement 'vote your conscience, vote your values, vote for the Constitution, God bless America' (paraphrased) as though that suggestion was somehow revealed a personal guilt in their soul.


I was considering just riding out the general election and watching the Hillary and Trump side beat each other up with little comment, but two things changed my mind.

That booing incident.
Being told constantly I am not allowed to criticize someone. - especially when I am told 'I will take you out' if I continue criticism.

The latter is almost more dangerous in my mind and usually is my trigger to double down.

I have a friend who is feebly trying to tell me that the Dem convention was much worse than the RNC convention.  I'm not letting her get away with it because I'm reminding her of exactly that instance.  It only took four years after Obamabots booed God for our side to come along and boo the Constitution and voting one's conscience.

Then there's also the "YES, YOU WILL" chant for Trump.  At least the Obamabots chanted "yes, we will."  Republicans invested all of the power in their new messiah.
Title: Re: The True Story: Donald Trump Did Not Mock a Reporter’s Disability
Post by: ABX on July 29, 2016, 01:25:16 pm
I have a friend who is feebly trying to tell me that the Dem convention was much worse than the RNC convention.  I'm not letting her get away with it because I'm reminding her of exactly that instance.  It only took four years after Obamabots booed God for our side to come along and boo the Constitution and voting one's conscience.

Then there's also the "YES, YOU WILL" chant for Trump.  At least the Obamabots chanted "yes, we will."  Republicans invested all of the power in their new messiah.

There were so many disturbing things in that. Both conventions might as well have changed the theme to "We are from the government and we are here to help".
Title: Re: The True Story: Donald Trump Did Not Mock a Reporter’s Disability
Post by: Silver Pines on July 29, 2016, 01:42:27 pm
There were so many disturbing things in that. Both conventions might as well have changed the theme to "We are from the government and we are here to help".

Agreed.  I saw a poll which found that the RNC convention made a majority of people less likely to vote for Trump.  I wonder how much the chanting influenced that decision.
Title: Re: The True Story: Donald Trump Did Not Mock a Reporter’s Disability
Post by: LonestarDream on July 29, 2016, 01:58:30 pm
There were accounts of hundreds and maybe thousands of celebrations in Paterson NJ.

There were large scale celebrations in several communities, including the roof top celebrations in Jersey City.

Trump was correct on this one.

Your article is very selective with the truth.  It starts with this part:

"It all started  on November 21, 2015 when, at a rally, Trump said he remembered seeing reports of Arab Americans celebrating the 9/11 terror attacks on rooftops in New Jersey shortly after the twin towers fell...Stephanopolous and all of the major news outlets immediately denied the existence of any such news reports following 9/11."

What your article left out, and what the transcript of that episode of "This Week" confirms is that Trump claimed he saw thousands of Muslims celebrating in New Jersey.  That is the part that the media immediately denied.  Turns out they were right.

Then it continues:

While he did this, Trump moved his hands around quickly, acting flustered.

Complete crap.  Anyone with half a brain can see that Trump was deliberately imitating, and mocking, Kovaleski's disability.   Flustered people do not move in the spastic actions that Trump imitated.

It's bad enough that your candidate couldn't tell the truth if his life depended on it.  Supporting lies with lies is even worse.
Title: Re: The True Story: Donald Trump Did Not Mock a Reporter’s Disability
Post by: beandog on July 29, 2016, 02:19:02 pm
There were accounts of hundreds and maybe thousands of celebrations in Paterson NJ.

There were large scale celebrations in several communities, including the roof top celebrations in Jersey City.

Trump was correct on this one.

First, of all if that was true where is all the video of it.  In this day and age there would certainly be something on line where we could see "THOUSANDS" of people celebrating.  Second, the Donald claimed he personally saw this occurring.  I don't believe for a minute he is telling the truth.  There was know need for him to lie as the truth of the matter was bad enough.  He just can't help but make things about himself.

Second, he most certainly is making fun of the reporter.  To believe othewise is to believe the Donald is prone to fits of his own, which would make him unfit to hold the office of the Presidency.  Either way is bad.

On top of that he most definitely is mocking the reporter.  To believe oth
Title: Re: The True Story: Donald Trump Did Not Mock a Reporter’s Disability
Post by: Victoria33 on July 29, 2016, 02:20:01 pm
Dear Moderator,
We really need a new category in our Briefing Room tree for articles such as this.  Instead of polluting the Politics folder, I strongly suggest we file this under the heading 'Lies and Bullshit' so that other members won't confuse this with actual issues going on.  Thanks.
xxxoooxxxooo
Well, @Hoodat, there are 6 TVs in this house and wherever I am, the TV is on. I am at my computer most of the day and read the news as it happens.  I saw Trump, to my knowledge, every time he, at the beginning, talked about this disabled reporter and read/saw the reporter himself speak/what he wrote, and read/saw media coverage. 

You see, someone can take a piece of one of Trump's speech, instead of another where he changed his position.  He lies in every speech.  THE VERY FIRST TIME HE MENTIONED THE ARABS CELEBRATING ON THE ROOF WHEN THE TOWERS FELL, he said "THOUSANDS" were there on that roof.  I heard/saw him say that.

When disabled reporter Serge FIRST responded, I saw/heard that, too.  He said he reported on that happening but there weren't "THOUSANDS“ as Trump said.  The author of this present piece and Trump, are using only part of a sentence the reporter said, to say the reporter denied writing it, that he said he did not remember.

I saw/and read exactly what the reporter said.  He never denied writing or saying people were on the roof celebrating.  Instead, he said (read the whole sentence),

"I certainly do not remember anyone saying that thousands or even hundreds of people were celebrating,” said Serge Kovaleski, one of the reporters. “That was not the case, as best as I can remember.”

I also read what a policeman said who actually responded to that situation and he said it was a few people.

Trump lied once again, saying the reporter denied reporting it, that he did not remember, so the heat of saying "thousands" would get off him.
Title: Re: The True Story: Donald Trump Did Not Mock a Reporter’s Disability
Post by: geronl on July 29, 2016, 02:20:30 pm
Dear Moderator,

We really need a new category in our Briefing Room tree for articles such as this.  Instead of polluting the Politics folder, I strongly suggest we file this under the heading 'Lies and Bullshit' so that other members won't confuse this with actual issues going on.  Thanks.

xxxoooxxxooo


Trump supporters still trying to deny reality.

"You got to see this guy! derp derp..."
Title: Re: The True Story: Donald Trump Did Not Mock a Reporter’s Disability
Post by: Victoria33 on July 29, 2016, 02:51:14 pm
I have a friend who is feebly trying to tell me that the Dem convention was much worse than the RNC convention.  I'm not letting her get away with it because I'm reminding her of exactly that instance.   Then there's also the "YES, YOU WILL" chant for Trump.  At least the Obamabots chanted "yes, we will."  Republicans invested all of the power in their new messiah.
@CatherineofAragon
Perhaps you have read a post of mine about the Dem convention.  Their convention was excellent, bringing all races in and their speeches were fine.  I listened/saw it every day. It was about "all" the people and their experiences.  Trump's convention was all about just him. One of his kids every day, praising him.  He said something like, "I am the only one who can fix it."  The Democrats said, "We can fix it."

Trump is insane and Clinton is not.  Trump could kill us all, starting WWIII, Clinton will not.  If we are dead, it matters not who is on the Supreme Court.  If we are dead, the "wall" (that will not be built), doesn't matter.  Life or death is the basis for my vote.
Title: Re: The True Story: Donald Trump Did Not Mock a Reporter’s Disability
Post by: catfish1957 on July 29, 2016, 02:56:35 pm
Went in open minded, and tried to see it your way.

No compelling evidence to show that Trump was NOT mocking the man.  Sorry.

Title: Re: The True Story: Donald Trump Did Not Mock a Reporter’s Disability
Post by: LonestarDream on July 29, 2016, 03:43:22 pm
You are conflating a number of things.

There is audio and video of the celebrating all over this site and other websites.

I guess we have to re litigate 911 now too, as it has been white brushed out of our collective memories.

And now there are many more times unvetted sharia compliant Muslims  than were here during 911.  And no one seems to care until we have several Catholic and Jewish services shot up like what happened in France.



Better questions are why did the media stop playing towers falling and can we trust google and youtube not censor unfavorable or unpleasant videos to the DNC. 

First, of all if that was true where is all the video of it.  In this day and age there would certainly be something on line where we could see "THOUSANDS" of people celebrating.  Second, the Donald claimed he personally saw this occurring.  I don't believe for a minute he is telling the truth.  There was know need for him to lie as the truth of the matter was bad enough.  He just can't help but make things about himself.

Second, he most certainly is making fun of the reporter.  To believe othewise is to believe the Donald is prone to fits of his own, which would make him unfit to hold the office of the Presidency.  Either way is bad.

On top of that he most definitely is mocking the reporter.  To believe oth
Title: Re: The True Story: Donald Trump Did Not Mock a Reporter’s Disability
Post by: LonestarDream on July 29, 2016, 03:44:52 pm
The dem convention glorified cop killing and communists .

No Thanks.

@CatherineofAragon
Perhaps you have read a post of mine about the Dem convention.  Their convention was excellent, bringing all races in and their speeches were fine.  I listened/saw it every day. It was about "all" the people and their experiences.  Trump's convention was all about just him. One of his kids every day, praising him.  He said something like, "I am the only one who can fix it."  The Democrats said, "We can fix it."

Trump is insane and Clinton is not.  Trump could kill us all, starting WWIII, Clinton will not.  If we are dead, it matters not who is on the Supreme Court.  If we are dead, the "wall" (that will not be built), doesn't matter.  Life or death is the basis for my vote.
Title: Re: The True Story: Donald Trump Did Not Mock a Reporter’s Disability
Post by: sinkspur on July 29, 2016, 03:48:11 pm
You are conflating a number of things.

There is audio and video of the celebrating all over this site and other websites.

I guess we have to re litigate 911 now too, as it has been white brushed out of our collective memories.

And now there are many more times unvetted sharia compliant Muslims  than were here during 911.  And no one seems to care until we have several Catholic and Jewish services shot up like what happened in France.



Better questions are why did the media stop playing towers falling and can we trust google and youtube not censor unfavorable or unpleasant videos to the DNC.

Post some of those videos.  I have never seen them.  Really.

As to relitigating 9/11, there is no need to as long as your boy or some group of  Trump sycophants don't lie about it and require correction.
Title: Re: The True Story: Donald Trump Did Not Mock a Reporter’s Disability
Post by: LonestarDream on July 29, 2016, 03:53:49 pm
Start at 55 seconds.  'Swarming with dancers'

Also some of these terrorists were tied to the first sheik Omar. 

Again,  there are a million or more sharia compliant Muslims here.

Are you denying there wont be more celebrating the next time.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3auKMHkZJnQ


First, of all if that was true where is all the video of it.  In this day and age there would certainly be something on line where we could see "THOUSANDS" of people celebrating.  Second, the Donald claimed he personally saw this occurring.  I don't believe for a minute he is telling the truth.  There was know need for him to lie as the truth of the matter was bad enough.  He just can't help but make things about himself.

Second, he most certainly is making fun of the reporter.  To believe othewise is to believe the Donald is prone to fits of his own, which would make him unfit to hold the office of the Presidency.  Either way is bad.

On top of that he most definitely is mocking the reporter.  To believe oth
Title: Re: The True Story: Donald Trump Did Not Mock a Reporter’s Disability
Post by: EC on July 29, 2016, 03:54:08 pm
Seconding.

I've never seen them either. Celebrating in the ME - yes. In the USA, never.  :shrug:
Title: Re: The True Story: Donald Trump Did Not Mock a Reporter’s Disability
Post by: geronl on July 29, 2016, 03:54:38 pm
You are conflating a number of things.

There is audio and video of the celebrating all over this site and other websites.


Nobody denied there were celebrations, they were ululating and handing out candy in the Palestinian territories.

The issue is whether Trump could see large-scale celebrations in person from his Penthouse in NYC. I don't think so.
Title: Re: The True Story: Donald Trump Did Not Mock a Reporter’s Disability
Post by: LonestarDream on July 29, 2016, 03:56:47 pm
Rudy on the celebrating



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9_TwEaF5Jh0
Title: Re: The True Story: Donald Trump Did Not Mock a Reporter’s Disability
Post by: LonestarDream on July 29, 2016, 03:59:10 pm
The people who were celebrating offshore are now in the US.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G-p1LEBAujE
Title: Re: The True Story: Donald Trump Did Not Mock a Reporter’s Disability
Post by: LonestarDream on July 29, 2016, 04:00:43 pm


Start 1:00 .


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W5BtQgTGOI4
Title: Re: The True Story: Donald Trump Did Not Mock a Reporter’s Disability
Post by: don-o on July 29, 2016, 04:01:21 pm
Nobody denied there were celebrations, they were ululating and handing out candy in the Palestinian territories.

The issue is whether Trump could see large-scale celebrations in person from his Penthouse in NYC. I don't think so.

And that speaks to a real concern. Trump watches too much TV and it all gets jumbled up in his mind. He latches on to random, unconnected images and just blurts out nonsense; Nonsense that he absolutely believes to be true.

Title: Re: The True Story: Donald Trump Did Not Mock a Reporter’s Disability
Post by: geronl on July 29, 2016, 04:03:19 pm
Here is a view of Manhattan from New Jersey. Just imagine being able to see rooftop celebrations from a distance like that and be able to see that the celebrating people were Muslims instead of birthday partiers hitting a pinata

(http://www.nicknormal.com/normalblog/wp-content/uploads/2008/10/view-of-ny-from-jersey.jpg)

The idea that Trump could see all that with his little eye is ridiculous.

(http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2016/01/11/18/300CE86700000578-3394167-image-a-14_1452538340715.jpg)

Them are some powerful glasses!
Title: Re: The True Story: Donald Trump Did Not Mock a Reporter’s Disability
Post by: LonestarDream on July 29, 2016, 04:03:27 pm

Contemporaneous documentation of dancing in the streets in South Paterson NJ


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W26SCUvG0Fc
Title: Re: The True Story: Donald Trump Did Not Mock a Reporter’s Disability
Post by: sinkspur on July 29, 2016, 04:04:38 pm
Not convincing.  And it's impossible for Trump to see ANYBODY in Jersey City doing ANYTHING.  And Curtis Sliwa is not a reliable source.

America is not a frightened country, Lonestar, no matter how much you or Trump insist it is.
Title: Re: The True Story: Donald Trump Did Not Mock a Reporter’s Disability
Post by: truth_seeker on July 29, 2016, 04:05:24 pm
Agreed.  I saw a poll which found that the RNC convention made a majority of people less likely to vote for Trump. 

And I saw polls, which said the opposite.
Title: Re: The True Story: Donald Trump Did Not Mock a Reporter’s Disability
Post by: LonestarDream on July 29, 2016, 04:05:41 pm
And that speaks to a real concern. Trump watches too much TV and it all gets jumbled up in his mind. He latches on to random, unconnected images and just blurts out nonsense; Nonsense that he absolutely believes to be true.

So what if he conflated a few sources.  Happens all the when we are under stress.

The real issue is that there are many times more of sharia compliant Muslims here now.

Orlando, Boston, Fort Hood, Fort Dix.  It goes on and on.


Title: Re: The True Story: Donald Trump Did Not Mock a Reporter’s Disability
Post by: LonestarDream on July 29, 2016, 04:06:30 pm
Not convincing.  And it's impossible for Trump to see ANYBODY in Jersey City doing ANYTHING.  And Curtis Sliwa is not a reliable source.

America is not a frightened country, Lonestar, no matter how much you or Trump insist it is.

Yikes.
Title: Re: The True Story: Donald Trump Did Not Mock a Reporter’s Disability
Post by: Silver Pines on July 29, 2016, 04:07:27 pm
And I saw polls, which said the opposite.

We'll see what happens, I guess.
Title: Re: The True Story: Donald Trump Did Not Mock a Reporter’s Disability
Post by: sinkspur on July 29, 2016, 04:07:37 pm
So what if he conflated a few sources.  Happens all the when we are under stress.

The real issue is that there are many times more of sharia compliant Muslims here now.

Orlando, Boston, Fort Hood, Fort Dix.  It goes on and on.

Still not frightened.
Title: Re: The True Story: Donald Trump Did Not Mock a Reporter’s Disability
Post by: Silver Pines on July 29, 2016, 04:08:43 pm
So what if he conflated a few sources.  Happens all the when we are under stress.

The real issue is that there are many times more of sharia compliant Muslims here now.

Orlando, Boston, Fort Hood, Fort Dix.  It goes on and on.

Yeah, so what, who needs a president with any kind of mental acuity or focus.  That was so pre-reality show era.
Title: Re: The True Story: Donald Trump Did Not Mock a Reporter’s Disability
Post by: Frank Cannon on July 29, 2016, 04:10:16 pm
Absolutely no one will believe this spin that Trump wasn't mocking the reporter. The reasoning in defending it is convoluted at best and an Alex Jones conspiracy theory at worst.
Title: Re: The True Story: Donald Trump Did Not Mock a Reporter’s Disability
Post by: LonestarDream on July 29, 2016, 04:10:45 pm
Post some of those videos.  I have never seen them.  Really.

As to relitigating 9/11, there is no need to as long as your boy or some group of  Trump sycophants don't lie about it and require correction.

Trump did not lie about 911.  Amazed all the coverage that is still out there.  Try visiting some the mosques here and go to South Paterson.

Amazed you have taken the position that terrorism is not an issue or people are not fearful.   
Title: Re: The True Story: Donald Trump Did Not Mock a Reporter’s Disability
Post by: sinkspur on July 29, 2016, 04:26:07 pm
Even Pence has a tremendous lack of self-awareness:


 
NBC Nightly
‏@NBCNightlyNews
"I don't think name calling has any place in public life," Trump running mate Pence tells @hughhewitt of Pres. Obama's use of "demagogue."
Title: Re: The True Story: Donald Trump Did Not Mock a Reporter’s Disability
Post by: LonestarDream on July 29, 2016, 04:33:16 pm
Still not frightened.

The die is cast in France.  There is a HIGH probability that another attack in a church or synagogue will happen soon.

The UK and Washington DC have been specifically mentioned. 

Particularly if your community is near sharia heavy zone.
Title: Re: The True Story: Donald Trump Did Not Mock a Reporter’s Disability
Post by: sinkspur on July 29, 2016, 04:36:43 pm
Trump did not lie about 911.  Amazed all the coverage that is still out there.  Try visiting some the mosques here and go to South Paterson.

Amazed you have taken the position that terrorism is not an issue or people are not fearful.

According to the latest Gallup poll of issues, terrorism was listed by 5% of respondents, crime by 6%. 

(http://content.gallup.com/origin/gallupinc/GallupSpaces/Production/Cms/POLL/xgr4pvrar0iaz542dbvs5a.png)

People are NOT fearful. 
Title: Re: The True Story: Donald Trump Did Not Mock a Reporter’s Disability
Post by: sinkspur on July 29, 2016, 04:41:23 pm
The die is cast in France.  There is a HIGH probability that another attack in a church or synagogue will happen soon.

The UK and Washington DC have been specifically mentioned. 

Particularly if your community is near sharia heavy zone.

Still not frightened.  And I wouldn't vote for Trump if I WAS frightened.
Title: Re: The True Story: Donald Trump Did Not Mock a Reporter’s Disability
Post by: Idaho_Cowboy on July 29, 2016, 04:48:42 pm
Who ya going to believe? Some random person on the internet or your own lying eyes.  :whistle:
Title: Re: The True Story: Donald Trump Did Not Mock a Reporter’s Disability
Post by: Idaho_Cowboy on July 29, 2016, 04:51:30 pm
I read the story.  I watched the video.  Anyone who really believes Trump was not mocking the reporter's disability is blind to reality.
Perhaps what was needed was more red and a larger font size to intimidate us!
Title: Re: The True Story: Donald Trump Did Not Mock a Reporter’s Disability
Post by: Idaho_Cowboy on July 29, 2016, 04:53:52 pm
And I saw polls, which said the opposite.
And I saw a pole who thought his wife was trying to kill him when he found her bottle of polish remover.
Title: Re: The True Story: Donald Trump Did Not Mock a Reporter’s Disability
Post by: Wingnut on July 29, 2016, 05:09:28 pm
Look.  Trump is an old fart.  An old fart who grew up making fun of retards by doing the "Spas" (spastic) dance.  Like all of trumps actions, he just reverted back to his days on the school yard and went full retard on instint. For Trump it is muscle memory. He never thinks things out.  He is all reaction.  In fact, his brain is one big ass flabby muscle.  He is a damn Meathead.

So, anyone trying to explain his actions as anything different than mocking the disabled or being a bully.... is a bigger moron than trump.

just say'n.
Title: Re: The True Story: Donald Trump Did Not Mock a Reporter’s Disability
Post by: XenaLee on July 29, 2016, 05:18:52 pm
Absolutely no one will believe this spin that Trump wasn't mocking the reporter. The reasoning in defending it is convoluted at best and an Alex Jones conspiracy theory at worst.

Obviously......truth doesn't matter to Trump apologists any more than it matters to Trump. 
Title: Re: The True Story: Donald Trump Did Not Mock a Reporter’s Disability
Post by: ABX on July 29, 2016, 05:29:47 pm
Absolutely no one will believe this spin that Trump wasn't mocking the reporter. The reasoning in defending it is convoluted at best and an Alex Jones conspiracy theory at worst.

And it makes absolutely zero sense why this would be brought back up. This is one of those things that disgusts people on the fence more than anything, and at this point, they would have forgotten about it, then bam, a quick reminder, which, if anyone decides to go check on it and compare sources and videos, they'll see it isn't what that source website claims. All it does is take the focus off the
'versus Hillary' fight and put it back on Trump's embarrassing antics.  If one didn't know any better, this goes right back to the idea some have he is sandbagging his campaign.

But, since the topic was brought up, once again:

(http://afflictor.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/02/Donald-Trump-Mocks-A-Reporter-With-A-Disability-And-Says-He-Doesnt-Remember.gif)
Title: Re: The True Story: Donald Trump Did Not Mock a Reporter’s Disability
Post by: Emjay on July 29, 2016, 05:30:53 pm
PLEASE READ THE WHOLE STORY AND WATCH VIDEOS, BEFORE YOU REPLY! REALLY! IF YOU REPLY AND HAVEN'T READ YOU MIGHT LOOK FOOLISH, JUST SAYIN!

The True Story: Donald Trump Did Not Mock a Reporter’s Disability
http://www.catholics4trump.com/the-true-story-donald-trump-did-not-mock-a-reporters-disability/

At the Democratic National Convention speakers are repeating the claim, amplified ad nauseam by the left and establishment GOP opponents over the past year, that Donald Trump mocked the disability of New York Times reporter, Serge Kovaleski. This accusation has served as a very convenient tool to both smear Trump’s character and to avoid having to confront him on substantive political issues. But is it true? Here is the story the media is not telling you.

It all started  on November 21, 2015 when, at a rally, Trump said he remembered seeing reports of Arab Americans celebrating the 9/11 terror attacks on rooftops in New Jersey shortly after the twin towers fell. As he told George Stephanopolous in an interview the next day on ABC’s “This Week”:

Thanks for posting.  It enabled me to watch that disgusting video again.

What a tool Trump is.
Title: Re: The True Story: Donald Trump Did Not Mock a Reporter’s Disability
Post by: Machiavelli on July 29, 2016, 05:46:04 pm
"The True Story: Donald Trump Did Not Mock a Reporter’s Disability"

(https://s31.postimg.org/tvl0ji4a3/You_Just_Pulled_That_Out_Of_Your_Ass_Didnt_You.png)
Title: Re: The True Story: Donald Trump Did Not Mock a Reporter’s Disability
Post by: Mom MD on July 29, 2016, 05:52:18 pm
The die is cast in France.  There is a HIGH probability that another attack in a church or synagogue will happen soon.

The UK and Washington DC have been specifically mentioned. 

Particularly if your community is near sharia heavy zone.

If they try at my church they might be surprised at the amount of return fire.   I'm not the only one there who carries.....
Title: Re: The True Story: Donald Trump Did Not Mock a Reporter’s Disability
Post by: XenaLee on July 29, 2016, 06:06:46 pm
LOL...same here.  I bet there are at least 20 in our congregation that carry.  I'm just praying they are good shots...lol.

It's like American Express here in Texas.  Never leave home without it. 
Title: Re: The True Story: Donald Trump Did Not Mock a Reporter’s Disability
Post by: geronl on July 29, 2016, 06:23:52 pm
Contemporaneous documentation of dancing in the streets in South Paterson NJ


I am sure Donaldo saw this with his own 2-eyes from Trump Tower, I guess he has really good perv telescopes and can even tell a persons religion from that distance is quite remarkable.
Title: Re: The True Story: Donald Trump Did Not Mock a Reporter’s Disability
Post by: Polly Ticks on July 29, 2016, 06:28:12 pm
I am sure Donaldo saw this with his own 2-eyes from Trump Tower, I guess he has really good perv telescopes and can even tell a persons religion from that distance is quite remarkable.

(http://minnlawyer.com/files/2011/04/vinny.jpg)
Title: Re: The True Story: Donald Trump Did Not Mock a Reporter’s Disability
Post by: jedidah on July 29, 2016, 07:05:42 pm
So what if he conflated a few sources.  Happens all the when we are under stress.



Good grief.  This isn't about "we," but rather about a nominee for President of the United States who "conflates" sources and makes stuff up.

"Under stress" isn't an excuse when you're running for President.  Maybe he needs to take a pill and go home?

And the issue isn't about muslim terrorists.  We are all aware that the threat has grown, and no doubt some celebrated on Sept. 11.  But Donald Trump, golden as he may be, doesn't have eyesight or omniscience enough to see dancing men on New Jersey rooftops from his penthouse in Trump Tower. 

We are talking here about a candidate who gets his news from late-night tv and the National Enquirer, and even then can't keep the stories straight.


Title: Re: The True Story: Donald Trump Did Not Mock a Reporter’s Disability
Post by: RoosGirl on July 29, 2016, 09:51:27 pm
This is the idiocracy that supports Trump and they're mad that not everyone is as idiocratic as they are.  Unbelievable to even bring this up again, much less try to BS us into disbelieving what we can see with our own eyes.  The only similarity between the videos of Trump mocking however many people he has mocked now is the buffoonery that is Trump, but in some of his buffoonery he's holding his arm up similar to the disabled reporter.  The one that he doesn't know, just like he doesn't know who David Duke is and he doesn't know who Putin is.
Title: Re: The True Story: Donald Trump Did Not Mock a Reporter’s Disability
Post by: Fantom on July 29, 2016, 09:59:28 pm
PLEASE READ THE WHOLE STORY AND WATCH VIDEOS, BEFORE YOU REPLY! REALLY! IF YOU REPLY AND HAVEN'T READ YOU MIGHT LOOK FOOLISH, JUST SAYIN!

The True Story: Donald Trump Did Not Mock a Reporter’s Disability
http://www.catholics4trump.com/the-true-story-donald-trump-did-not-mock-a-reporters-disability/

At the Democratic National Convention speakers are repeating the claim, amplified ad nauseam by the left and establishment GOP opponents over the past year, that Donald Trump mocked the disability of New York Times reporter, Serge Kovaleski. This accusation has served as a very convenient tool to both smear Trump’s character and to avoid having to confront him on substantive political issues. But is it true? Here is the story the media is not telling you.

It all started  on November 21, 2015 when, at a rally, Trump said he remembered seeing reports of Arab Americans celebrating the 9/11 terror attacks on rooftops in New Jersey shortly after the twin towers fell. As he told George Stephanopolous in an interview the next day on ABC’s “This Week”:

I am sorry R4.

From the article.  Enter Donald Trump’s rally in South Carolina soon thereafter. During the rally Trump pointed all of this out and paraphrased Kovaleski’s backtracking as he impersonated a groveling reporter changing his story under pressure. While he did this, Trump moved his hands around quickly, acting flustered.

That is not what trump did. We all saw it.
Title: Re: The True Story: Donald Trump Did Not Mock a Reporter’s Disability
Post by: Fantom on July 29, 2016, 10:13:00 pm
Look.  Trump is an old fart.  An old fart who grew up making fun of retards by doing the "Spas" (spastic) dance.  Like all of trumps actions, he just reverted back to his days on the school yard and went full retard on instint. For Trump it is muscle memory. He never thinks things out.  He is all reaction.  In fact, his brain is one big ass flabby muscle.  He is a damn Meathead.

So, anyone trying to explain his actions as anything different than mocking the disabled or being a bully.... is a bigger moron than trump.

just say'n.

It's trump Brain memory.
Title: Re: The True Story: Donald Trump Did Not Mock a Reporter’s Disability
Post by: ABX on July 29, 2016, 10:23:08 pm
I am sorry R4.

From the article.  Enter Donald Trump’s rally in South Carolina soon thereafter. During the rally Trump pointed all of this out and paraphrased Kovaleski’s backtracking as he impersonated a groveling reporter changing his story under pressure. While he did this, Trump moved his hands around quickly, acting flustered.

That is not what trump did. We all saw it.

Yep, here is the video. It wasn't just flailing his arms around in mockery, he also mocked his voice.
http://www.nbcnews.com/video/donald-trump-appears-to-mock-disabled-reporter-574777923731
Title: Re: The True Story: Donald Trump Did Not Mock a Reporter’s Disability
Post by: Idaho_Cowboy on July 29, 2016, 10:32:07 pm
Yep, here is the video. It wasn't just flailing his arms around in mockery, he also mocked his voice.
http://www.nbcnews.com/video/donald-trump-appears-to-mock-disabled-reporter-574777923731
Come on, you know better than to use video that hasn't been cleansed by the ministry of truth. It's double plus ungood.  888blackhat
Title: Re: The True Story: Donald Trump Did Not Mock a Reporter’s Disability
Post by: txradioguy on July 29, 2016, 10:41:25 pm
What is your problem?
I wrote it!!
Now key me delete your post **nononono*

And we're supposed to believe this completely biased propaganda over what people saw with their own eyes because?

Do you have even the slightest clue as to the definition of objectivity?

I'm guessing not.
Title: Re: The True Story: Donald Trump Did Not Mock a Reporter’s Disability
Post by: mlizzy on July 29, 2016, 10:42:46 pm
For Trump it is muscle memory. He never thinks things out.  He is all reaction.
I concur @Wingnut !! It's the same reason this happened:

(http://media2.intoday.in/indiatoday/images/stories/trump-story_146916312976_647x404_072216102329.jpg)

And this too:

(http://img.wennermedia.com/social/donald-trump-mike-pence-air-kiss-30fa236b-4463-4cb6-8cfd-9457e63e66ad.jpg)

I would gather to guess, the Donald got a check mark in grade school for "Lacks self-control."

It goes along with being eccentric.
Title: Re: The True Story: Donald Trump Did Not Mock a Reporter’s Disability
Post by: Silver Pines on July 29, 2016, 11:00:28 pm
@CatherineofAragon
Perhaps you have read a post of mine about the Dem convention.  Their convention was excellent, bringing all races in and their speeches were fine.  I listened/saw it every day. It was about "all" the people and their experiences.  Trump's convention was all about just him. One of his kids every day, praising him.  He said something like, "I am the only one who can fix it."  The Democrats said, "We can fix it."

Trump is insane and Clinton is not.  Trump could kill us all, starting WWIII, Clinton will not.  If we are dead, it matters not who is on the Supreme Court.  If we are dead, the "wall" (that will not be built), doesn't matter.  Life or death is the basis for my vote.

@Victoria33, I HAVE to learn to check my mentions.  If I didn't respond to you on any posts, it's because of that.  Good grief...

I agree with you...I think Clinton and Trump are equally corrupt.  The difference is that Trump is genuinely demented.  I won't vote for Hillary Clinton due to her pro-abortion stance, but there's no way on this earth I'll ever vote for Trump, either.

Title: Re: The True Story: Donald Trump Did Not Mock a Reporter’s Disability
Post by: Chosen Daughter on July 30, 2016, 02:02:17 am
So, if we are to believe this, then Trump wasn't mocking the reporter, he is just spastic on his own. It isn't an act, it was just Trump's own mental issues that caused this. Allrighty then. Not exactly a better prospect. 

(http://afflictor.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/02/Donald-Trump-Mocks-A-Reporter-With-A-Disability-And-Says-He-Doesnt-Remember.gif)

Let's look a bit closer, again, this supposedly isn't Trump mocking someone. The justification is this is how he acts.

(https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YMHOcmDVBP0)
Title: Re: The True Story: Donald Trump Did Not Mock a Reporter’s Disability
Post by: Chosen Daughter on July 30, 2016, 02:07:55 am
So, if we are to believe this, then Trump wasn't mocking the reporter, he is just spastic on his own. It isn't an act, it was just Trump's own mental issues that caused this. Allrighty then. Not exactly a better prospect. 

(http://afflictor.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/02/Donald-Trump-Mocks-A-Reporter-With-A-Disability-And-Says-He-Doesnt-Remember.gif)

Let's look a bit closer, again, this supposedly isn't Trump mocking someone. The justification is this is how he acts.

(https://img.4plebs.org/boards/pol/image/1448/60/1448606490809.gif)

Looks like mocking to me. 
Title: Re: The True Story: Donald Trump Did Not Mock a Reporter’s Disability
Post by: Just_Victor on July 30, 2016, 03:27:24 pm
Looks like mocking to me.

At this point I'd settle for spastic/insane.
Title: Re: The True Story: Donald Trump Did Not Mock a Reporter’s Disability
Post by: Hoodat on July 30, 2016, 03:45:56 pm
Good grief.  This isn't about "we," but rather about a nominee for President of the United States who "conflates" sources and makes stuff up.

LBJ often repeated this story of how his grandfather died at the Alamo.  It was totally false, but LBJ told it so many times because he was caught up in the false glory of how it reflected on him.  He would continue to relive it by micromanaging the Vietnam War to the point where he had phone conversations with Air Force pilots in the process of performing missions.

One lie about his grandfather and the Alamo turned into an increase in troop levels from 16,000 to 568,000 during his five years in office.

Having a President who acts on a false portrayal of history creates a very dangerous situation, especially given the military might that is at his disposal.
Title: Re: The True Story: Donald Trump Did Not Mock a Reporter’s Disability
Post by: Suppressed on July 30, 2016, 04:11:49 pm
It is not just the floppy hands...

Floppy hand, not hands. The right hand doesn't flop back like the left does.

It's very specific mocking.
Title: Re: The True Story: Donald Trump Did Not Mock a Reporter’s Disability
Post by: sitetest on July 30, 2016, 05:41:23 pm
And we're supposed to believe this completely biased propaganda over what people saw with their own eyes because?

Do you have even the slightest clue as to the definition of objectivity?

I'm guessing not.
No.  No objectivity.
Title: Re: The True Story: Donald Trump Did Not Mock a Reporter’s Disability
Post by: Machiavelli on July 30, 2016, 06:28:44 pm
(http://media2.intoday.in/indiatoday/images/stories/trump-story_146916312976_647x404_072216102329.jpg)
Didn't he say something to the effect that he would like to hump his daughter if she wasn't his daughter?
Title: Re: The True Story: Donald Trump Did Not Mock a Reporter’s Disability
Post by: LonestarDream on July 31, 2016, 12:01:23 am
If they try at my church they might be surprised at the amount of return fire.   I'm not the only one there who carries.....

Good on you.  Cant say folks were not warned should something happen.
Title: Re: The True Story: Donald Trump Did Not Mock a Reporter’s Disability
Post by: LonestarDream on July 31, 2016, 12:03:41 am
The issue is pervasiveness about terrorism.  Am sure he heard contemporaneous reports during the event, on radio TV or Internet/Colleagues .

Good grief.  This isn't about "we," but rather about a nominee for President of the United States who "conflates" sources and makes stuff up.

"Under stress" isn't an excuse when you're running for President.  Maybe he needs to take a pill and go home?

And the issue isn't about muslim terrorists.  We are all aware that the threat has grown, and no doubt some celebrated on Sept. 11.  But Donald Trump, golden as he may be, doesn't have eyesight or omniscience enough to see dancing men on New Jersey rooftops from his penthouse in Trump Tower. 

We are talking here about a candidate who gets his news from late-night tv and the National Enquirer, and even then can't keep the stories straight.
Title: Re: The True Story: Donald Trump Did Not Mock a Reporter’s Disability
Post by: sinkspur on July 31, 2016, 12:15:21 am
The issue is pervasiveness about terrorism.  Am sure he heard contemporaneous reports during the event, on radio TV or Internet/Colleagues .

No.  The issue is Trump making stuff up. He does it all the time.

Hell, he's told three lies this very afternoon.  He's supposed to be running for president, not trying to one-up his buddies at Doral.

Why can we not believe a thing he says?
Title: Re: The True Story: Donald Trump Did Not Mock a Reporter’s Disability
Post by: LonestarDream on July 31, 2016, 01:39:18 am
No.  The issue is Trump making stuff up. He does it all the time.

Hell, he's told three lies this very afternoon.  He's supposed to be running for president, not trying to one-up his buddies at Doral.

Why can we not believe a thing he says?

so you are guaranteeing that houses of worship will not be attacked in NA or the UK?

Think you conflating your emotions for some of Trump's tactics with the situation on the ground.
Title: Re: The True Story: Donald Trump Did Not Mock a Reporter’s Disability
Post by: LonestarDream on July 31, 2016, 01:44:42 am
No.  The issue is Trump making stuff up. He does it all the time.

Hell, he's told three lies this very afternoon.  He's supposed to be running for president, not trying to one-up his buddies at Doral.

Why can we not believe a thing he says?

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3715877/Thousands-German-protesters-prepare-streets-Merkel-demonstration-against-Premier-s-immigration-policies-say-caused-terror-attacks.html

Guess Merkel is still the savior as well with no issues....
Title: Re: The True Story: Donald Trump Did Not Mock a Reporter’s Disability
Post by: sinkspur on July 31, 2016, 02:07:08 am
so you are guaranteeing that houses of worship will not be attacked in NA or the UK?

Think you conflating your emotions for some of Trump's tactics with the situation on the ground.

What does that have to do with Trump?  He can't stop attacks in Europe either.
Title: Re: The True Story: Donald Trump Did Not Mock a Reporter’s Disability
Post by: sinkspur on July 31, 2016, 02:07:44 am
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3715877/Thousands-German-protesters-prepare-streets-Merkel-demonstration-against-Premier-s-immigration-policies-say-caused-terror-attacks.html

Guess Merkel is still the savior as well with no issues....

Again.  Non-sequitur.  Start a thread about that.
Title: Re: The True Story: Donald Trump Did Not Mock a Reporter’s Disability
Post by: sitetest on July 31, 2016, 02:42:12 am
so you are guaranteeing that houses of worship will not be attacked in NA or the UK?

Think you conflating your emotions for some of Trump's tactics with the situation on the ground.

That's not what's at issue.  What is is that the orange a$$hoIe is a damned liar, and I'm not voting for the damned liar with an R after its name, or the damned liar with a D after her name.
Title: Re: The True Story: Donald Trump Did Not Mock a Reporter’s Disability
Post by: LonestarDream on July 31, 2016, 02:48:45 am
That's not what's at issue.  What is is that the orange a$$hoIe is a damned liar, and I'm not voting for the damned liar with an R after its name, or the damned liar with a D after her name.

It is at issue.  Hillary = Merkel
Title: Re: The True Story: Donald Trump Did Not Mock a Reporter’s Disability
Post by: LonestarDream on July 31, 2016, 02:49:52 am
What does that have to do with Trump?  He can't stop attacks in Europe either.

Your claim is there no security threat.

Trump's claim is that the Sharia types will be vetted.
Title: Re: The True Story: Donald Trump Did Not Mock a Reporter’s Disability
Post by: Oceander on July 31, 2016, 02:51:24 am
Your claim is there no security threat.

Trump's claim is that the Sharia types will be vetted.

More of Trump's "hyperbole"
Title: Re: The True Story: Donald Trump Did Not Mock a Reporter’s Disability
Post by: LonestarDream on July 31, 2016, 02:52:37 am
The CSU of Bavaria is splitting off from the Merkel coalition. 


(http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2016/07/30/16/36BA9BED00000578-3715877-image-a-62_1469893224424.jpg)

Yes the pictures show Merkel having blood on her hands.....
Title: Re: The True Story: Donald Trump Did Not Mock a Reporter’s Disability
Post by: LonestarDream on July 31, 2016, 02:54:25 am
More of Trump's "hyperbole"

No.  One million refugees in the US.  Lets say 10% are Sharia types....
Title: Re: The True Story: Donald Trump Did Not Mock a Reporter’s Disability
Post by: sinkspur on July 31, 2016, 02:56:24 am
Your claim is there no security threat.

Trump's claim is that the Sharia types will be vetted.

I have made no such claim. 

What is wrong with you? 
Title: Re: The True Story: Donald Trump Did Not Mock a Reporter’s Disability
Post by: Oceander on July 31, 2016, 02:57:34 am
No.  One million refugees in the US.  Lets say 10% are Sharia types....

Yeah, and they all walk around with "Sharia" written on their backs.  The only solution is, once again, the Trump Gestapo.  That will most definitely not get any votes.
Title: Re: The True Story: Donald Trump Did Not Mock a Reporter’s Disability
Post by: LonestarDream on July 31, 2016, 03:02:02 am
I have made no such claim. 

What is wrong with you?


you certainly did.

Terrorists are reviled these days.
(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/c/c8/Rolling_Stone_Cover_with_Boston_Bomber.jpg)
Title: Re: The True Story: Donald Trump Did Not Mock a Reporter’s Disability
Post by: LonestarDream on July 31, 2016, 03:02:55 am
Yeah, and they all walk around with "Sharia" written on their backs.  The only solution is, once again, the Trump Gestapo.  That will most definitely not get any votes.

It is about vetting.  Trump/Pence will do the vetting.

Hamas Huma, not so much.
Title: Re: The True Story: Donald Trump Did Not Mock a Reporter’s Disability
Post by: sinkspur on July 31, 2016, 03:03:08 am

you certainly did.

Terrorists are reviled these days.
(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/c/c8/Rolling_Stone_Cover_with_Boston_Bomber.jpg)

Where did I make such a claim?

Are you drinking?
Title: Re: The True Story: Donald Trump Did Not Mock a Reporter’s Disability
Post by: LonestarDream on July 31, 2016, 03:05:40 am
Not convincing.  And it's impossible for Trump to see ANYBODY in Jersey City doing ANYTHING.  And Curtis Sliwa is not a reliable source.

America is not a frightened country, Lonestar, no matter how much you or Trump insist it is.

This is your claim terrorism is not an issue.

Then you pooh pooh what happened in the France and now Bavaria.

Well France was a major escalation.  No house of worship in NA or UK is now safe.

Will be attending a later mass tomorrow.  Away from the sharia district nearby.

Pray for me.
Title: Re: The True Story: Donald Trump Did Not Mock a Reporter’s Disability
Post by: LonestarDream on July 31, 2016, 03:14:29 am
Yeah, and they all walk around with "Sharia" written on their backs.  The only solution is, once again, the Trump Gestapo.  That will most definitely not get any votes.

This is the Bavaria slasher.  He was a Pakistani posing as a refugee.  The burden of proof is on the 'refugees' not civilized society. 

The Fleet Street press will provide even more graphic illustrations of what recent Sharia will do, if you can stomach it.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3715877/Thousands-German-protesters-prepare-streets-Merkel-demonstration-against-Premier-s-immigration-policies-say-caused-terror-attacks.html


(http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2016/07/19/15/3669FE1200000578-3696410-image-m-34_1468936951153.jpg)
Title: Re: The True Story: Donald Trump Did Not Mock a Reporter’s Disability
Post by: sinkspur on July 31, 2016, 03:14:52 am
This is your claim terrorism is not an issue.

Then you pooh pooh what happened in the France and now Bavaria.

Well France was a major escalation.  No house of worship in NA or UK is now safe.

Will be attending a later mass tomorrow.  Away from the sharia district nearby.

Pray for me.

Gallup's poll says 6% of Americans see terrorism as a major issue.  Take it up with Gallup.

Title: Re: The True Story: Donald Trump Did Not Mock a Reporter’s Disability
Post by: LonestarDream on July 31, 2016, 03:19:31 am
Gallup's poll says 6% of Americans see terrorism as a major issue.  Take it up with Gallup.

No you are.  That poll is specious because the issues are so divided such that each issue will get a tiny sliver.

You are seriously deluded to think that only 6% of Americans are concerned about security.
Title: Re: The True Story: Donald Trump Did Not Mock a Reporter’s Disability
Post by: LonestarDream on July 31, 2016, 03:33:32 am
Guess socialist François Hollande must be in on the non-sequitur as well...

   Anti-terrorist police shot two knifemen dead today after they murdered a priest by cutting his throat during a siege inside a church in northern France.


    Today’s bloodbath unfolded in the town of Saint-Etienne-du-Rouvray, close to the Normandy city of Rouen.

    The clergyman, named as Jacques Hamel, 84, had his throat cut, said a spokesman for the Interior Ministry in Paris.

    Two men rushed into the church via a back entrance during a morning service, soon after 9am.

    French President François Hollande travelled to the scene of the slaughter and said the attackers were “two terrorists who claimed to be from Isis”. (source)

(http://shoebat.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/07/dffhgjklkjhfjkjgcvh.jpg)



http://shoebat.com/2016/07/26/breaking-muslim-gang-storms-catholic-church-in-france-during-mass-takes-the-priest-and-slits-his-throat-in-front-of-the-entire-church-in-ritual-sacrifice-to-allah-while-screaming-allahu-akbar-i/
Title: Re: The True Story: Donald Trump Did Not Mock a Reporter’s Disability
Post by: txradioguy on July 31, 2016, 09:17:34 am
This is your claim terrorism is not an issue.

Then you pooh pooh what happened in the France and now Bavaria.

Well France was a major escalation.  No house of worship in NA or UK is now safe.

Will be attending a later mass tomorrow.  Away from the sharia district nearby.

Pray for me.

My prayer for you is that your reading comprehension improves.  @sinkspur didn't say terrorism wasn't an issue in anything of his that you've quoted
Title: Re: The True Story: Donald Trump Did Not Mock a Reporter’s Disability
Post by: geronl on July 31, 2016, 09:40:56 am
It is about vetting.  Trump/Pence will do the vetting.

New questions on the forms. That is about the extent of the vetting.
Title: Re: The True Story: Donald Trump Did Not Mock a Reporter’s Disability
Post by: LonestarDream on July 31, 2016, 07:43:59 pm
My prayer for you is that your reading comprehension improves.  @sinkspur didn't say terrorism wasn't an issue in anything of his that you've quoted

Yes he did.  His quotes speak for themselves as hides behind the so called reuters poll.

See post 116.
Title: Re: The True Story: Donald Trump Did Not Mock a Reporter’s Disability
Post by: LonestarDream on July 31, 2016, 07:47:59 pm
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3716280/Yes-boys-sex-slaves-Outrage-British-Muslim-cleric-mosque-Cardiff-jihadis-radicalised-tells-teenagers-captives-permissible-Islam.html

Sharia is very pervasive. 
Title: Re: The True Story: Donald Trump Did Not Mock a Reporter’s Disability
Post by: sinkspur on July 31, 2016, 07:48:13 pm
Yes he did.  His quotes speak for themselves as hides behind the so called reuters poll.

See post 116.

Gallup.  Terrorism is the number one issue for 6% of Americans. 
Title: Re: The True Story: Donald Trump Did Not Mock a Reporter’s Disability
Post by: LonestarDream on July 31, 2016, 07:51:15 pm
EXPERTS from the United Nations have sent state-of-the art detection equipment to Brazil over fears suicidal terror nuts will target the Olympics with a devastating ‘dirty bomb’.

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/1529920/un-atomic-agency-helping-guard-rio-olympics-from-isis-terror-attack/

No worries about the Olympics getting nuked either.   Believe these scanners have been used in NYC for sometime now.

Security/Terrorism is a big issue.  Perhaps we could ask a yes/no question as a poll here at TBR as to whether security is an issue or not.
Title: Re: The True Story: Donald Trump Did Not Mock a Reporter’s Disability
Post by: youknowwho on July 31, 2016, 08:00:35 pm
So, if we are to believe this, then Trump wasn't mocking the reporter, he is just spastic on his own. It isn't an act, it was just Trump's own mental issues that caused this. Allrighty then. Not exactly a better prospect. 

(http://afflictor.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/02/Donald-Trump-Mocks-A-Reporter-With-A-Disability-And-Says-He-Doesnt-Remember.gif)

Let's look a bit closer, again, this supposedly isn't Trump mocking someone. The justification is this is how he acts.

(https://img.4plebs.org/boards/pol/image/1448/60/1448606490809.gif)

And yet he's never done this before in his speeches, so it's not a common quirk. 

But this one in a lifetime spastic quirk just happened to happen when he was talking about THAT reporter.  SPECIFALLY. Right at that very time. 

Yea......  ok. ...
Title: Re: The True Story: Donald Trump Did Not Mock a Reporter’s Disability
Post by: musiclady on July 31, 2016, 08:14:02 pm
I read the story.  I watched the video.  Anyone who really believes Trump was not mocking the reporter's disability is blind to reality.

Yep.  You have to work hard to deny what he did. 

Even if I loved the guy I would be ashamed at this horrid behavior and mockery.

And I read the story and watched the video too.
Title: Re: The True Story: Donald Trump Did Not Mock a Reporter’s Disability
Post by: musiclady on July 31, 2016, 08:25:41 pm
The issue is pervasiveness about terrorism.  Am sure he heard contemporaneous reports during the event, on radio TV or Internet/Colleagues .

Fascinating to watch you try to hijack this thread @LonestarDream - page after page after page of non-germane postings.

This thread is about a ridiculous attempt to say that Trump wasn't mocking the handicapped when anyone with eyes can see he was.

Why are you changing the subject to a Trump lie about 9/11?

It seems silly to bring up yet another flaw in Trump, and yet another reason not to vote for him......
Title: Re: The True Story: Donald Trump Did Not Mock a Reporter’s Disability
Post by: musiclady on July 31, 2016, 08:29:36 pm
This is your claim terrorism is not an issue.

Then you pooh pooh what happened in the France and now Bavaria.

Well France was a major escalation.  No house of worship in NA or UK is now safe.

Will be attending a later mass tomorrow.  Away from the sharia district nearby.

Pray for me.

 :threadjack:

STOP IT!!  You're not only hijacking the thread, but you are bearing false witness....... in the worst possible manner.  STOP IT!!
Title: Re: The True Story: Donald Trump Did Not Mock a Reporter’s Disability
Post by: musiclady on July 31, 2016, 08:31:21 pm
You deleted my post?  I lay out a case that totally discredits your recreant, fallacious drivel, and you deleted it?  Wow.  Just wow.

Someone exposes your lies, so you censor them.  Unfrigginbelievable.

Not only are you a liar, you are a coward as well.

It's the new TRUMP version of the 1st Amendment.  You say what I don't like, and I destroy you.

Get used to it if he should win the election.

We're ALL going to be censored.
Title: Re: The True Story: Donald Trump Did Not Mock a Reporter’s Disability
Post by: Meshuge Mikey on July 31, 2016, 08:53:56 pm
And yet he's never done this before in his speeches, so it's not a common quirk. 

But this one in a lifetime spastic quirk just happened to happen when he was talking about THAT reporter.  SPECIFALLY. Right at that very time. 

Yea......  ok. ...


Im going all the way to the end of "that" limb, once again.....and restate the FACT that Donnys Devotees In Order to ENJOY The Donny Show....suspended their sense of Disbelief...thereby opening themselves to deep levels of MASS HYPNOSIS  and the subsequent BRAINWASHING  are utterly incapable of  having negative thoughts about the Donny!!   Therefore they are unable to PERCEIVE much less judge has more bizarre statements and BEHAVIORS!!!


  its VERY disturbing for such people to have incontrovertible evidence presented to them.


Mass Hypnosis worked for Hitler...and its worked as well it not better for the donny as he's been able to take advantages of COUNTLESS HOURS of TELEVISION Exposure!11


Let those with EYES......use them!! 




(http://westworldwide.businesscatalyst.com/New_Trump_TV.gif)
Title: Re: The True Story: Donald Trump Did Not Mock a Reporter’s Disability
Post by: HonestJohn on July 31, 2016, 10:24:15 pm
Yes he did.  His quotes speak for themselves as hides behind the so called reuters poll.

See post 116.

Which came after your original threadjack.  Standard cause-effect means that the original post comes before all the rest.
Title: Re: The True Story: Donald Trump Did Not Mock a Reporter’s Disability
Post by: Jackson on July 31, 2016, 10:37:18 pm
PLEASE READ THE WHOLE STORY AND WATCH VIDEOS, BEFORE YOU REPLY! REALLY! IF YOU REPLY AND HAVEN'T READ YOU MIGHT LOOK FOOLISH, JUST SAYIN!

The True Story: Donald Trump Did Not Mock a Reporter’s Disability
http://www.catholics4trump.com/the-true-story-donald-trump-did-not-mock-a-reporters-disability/

At the Democratic National Convention speakers are repeating the claim, amplified ad nauseam by the left and establishment GOP opponents over the past year, that Donald Trump mocked the disability of New York Times reporter, Serge Kovaleski. This accusation has served as a very convenient tool to both smear Trump’s character and to avoid having to confront him on substantive political issues. But is it true? Here is the story the media is not telling you.

It all started  on November 21, 2015 when, at a rally, Trump said he remembered seeing reports of Arab Americans celebrating the 9/11 terror attacks on rooftops in New Jersey shortly after the twin towers fell. As he told George Stephanopolous in an interview the next day on ABC’s “This Week”:

Pathetic. Dishonest. Pathetic. Did I already say pathetic? Yep. Pathetic.
Title: Re: The True Story: Donald Trump Did Not Mock a Reporter’s Disability
Post by: Idaho_Cowboy on August 01, 2016, 04:25:22 pm
I have made no such claim. 

What is wrong with you?
You have just encountered the Trumpslaining tactic of the day, the ever popular: OOH SHINY!

Sometimes the wall is shiny, sometimes the terrorists, whatever it is we must talk about the new shiny subject not Trump blatantly mocking a disabled reporter or what have you.
Title: Re: The True Story: Donald Trump Did Not Mock a Reporter’s Disability
Post by: Idaho_Cowboy on August 01, 2016, 04:29:38 pm
New questions on the forms. That is about the extent of the vetting.
Below the question Obama has "Are you a terrorist?" Trump will add the question "Did you lie on the previous question?"

Trump has already waffled on this issue. He was originally against letting in more refugees no he's not. By November he may have walked this one back to the left of Hillary. Who knows? Trump's positions change hourly.