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General Category => Politics/Government => Topic started by: Free Vulcan on April 18, 2018, 05:58:31 pm
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Sen. Ted Cruz (R-Texas) holds a narrow lead over Democratic challenger Rep. Beto O’Rourke (D-Texas), a poll released Wednesday showed.
A Quinnipiac University Poll, conducted April 12-17, deemed the race too close to call. Cruz leads O’Rourke, by 3 percentage points — 47-44 — which falls within the poll’s margin of error of 3.6 percentage points.
Support for each candidate is split along party lines, the poll found. Among Democrats, 87 percent said they support O’Rourke, while 88 percent of Republicans said they support Cruz.
Read more at: http://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/383780-poll-cruz-lead-over-dem-challenger-down-to-3-points?__twitter_impression=true&__twitter_impression=true (http://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/383780-poll-cruz-lead-over-dem-challenger-down-to-3-points?__twitter_impression=true&__twitter_impression=true)
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Every percentage point below Abbott's wuping of Davis in 2014 (20%) is an indication of Trump's effect on the GOP (rejecting Conservatism) as a whole and particularly in Texas.
Sen. Cruz takes this election very seriously, but will skate by at least 10-15%.
I hope he ditches the GOP afterwards.
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That poll is a joke. Cruz is gonna mop the floor with Paddy O'rourke's punk rocker butt.
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That poll is a joke. Cruz is gonna mop the floor with Paddy O'rourke's punk rocker butt.
I hope so. I like Sen. Cruz. I wish I could vote for him. :(
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Every percentage point below Abbott's wuping of Davis in 2014 (20%) is an indication of Trump's effect on the GOP (rejecting Conservatism) as a whole and particularly in Texas.
Sen. Cruz takes this election very seriously, but will skate by at least 10-15%.
I hope he ditches the GOP afterwards.
I hope you're right about Cruz's margin of victory but wrong about him ditching the GOP.
It makes me cringe when people talk this way. There is no third party that could win an election for dog catcher. There won't be for years. I see no progress in that direction at all.
We need Cruz in the Republican Party where he can help to reform it.
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Support for each candidate is split along party lines, the poll found. Among Democrats, 87 percent said they support O’Rourke, while 88 percent of Republicans said they support Cruz.
And that somehow translates to a below-majority lead for the Republican, in a state where the GOP is the incumbent AND a state that has consistently voted Republican for the past 20 years?
If this turns out to be a party-line vote, Cruz will win by far more than 3 points.
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Does anyone actually run for Dog Catcher? Is it an elective office? Don't think so. Why do we say that? Ooops, it was me.
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Every percentage point below Abbott's wuping of Davis in 2014 (20%) is an indication of Trump's effect on the GOP (rejecting Conservatism) as a whole and particularly in Texas.
Sen. Cruz takes this election very seriously, but will skate by at least 10-15%.
I hope he ditches the GOP afterwards.
Yeah, I agree. 10-15% at least.
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It makes me cringe when people talk this way. There is no third party that could win an election for dog catcher. There won't be for years. I see no progress in that direction at all.
There has been no real and lasting progress toward Conservatism within the Republican party in the last nearly forty years - *Bupkis*
So what's the difference?
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There has been no real and lasting progress toward Conservatism within the Republican party in the last nearly forty years - *Bupkis*
So what's the difference?
The difference is obvious in the election of Donald Trump. Whatever you may think about him, his election was an illustration of how dissatisfied people are with the lame actions of the Republican Party in the last few years.
It's a wake up call for the Party and they will either listen or lose.
Fortunately, the democrats are in far worse shape with not a single leading democrat who is any kind of a leader.
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The difference is obvious in the election of Donald Trump. Whatever you may think about him, his election was an illustration of how dissatisfied people are with the lame actions of the Republican Party in the last few years.
It's a wake up call for the Party and they will either listen or lose.
Fortunately, the democrats are in far worse shape with not a single leading democrat who is any kind of a leader.
Tump is the exact antithesis of what is needed. That he is even electable is a proper sign of the uselessness of the Republicans, and their lack of conviction and principle.
What is needed is statesmen rather than politicians... not idiocy. Tump (supposedly representing Conservatism) is doom.
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Tump is the exact antithesis of what is needed. That he is even electable is a proper sign of the uselessness of the Republicans, and their lack of conviction and principle.
What is needed is statesmen rather than politicians... not idiocy. Tump (supposedly representing Conservatism) is doom.
@roamer_1
I disagree. First, Trump was elected because people responded to his message which was very different from a conventional Republican message.
Second, if we could remove the Bad Trump from the Good Trump, we'd have a decent president.
Fortunately, the Bad Trump doesn't actually do anything. He just makes infuriating tweets and takes things too personally.
The Good Trump has done a lot of good things that actually matter.
We had one Statesman in the running and he lost. I think Cruz will be President eventually
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We had one Statesman in the running and he lost.
Exactly my point, and the only point on which we agree.
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Of course, Cruz has supported Trump over and over again, just shown 2 times in the past two weeks on this board. Those bringing nothing but falsehoods and taunts to the situation should be seen as doing that.
As said, turnout is the key. Texas has only around 55% or so turnout in the last presidential election.
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Of course, Cruz has supported Trump over and over again, just shown 2 times in the past two weeks on this board. Those bringing nothing but falsehoods and taunts to the situation should be seen as doing that.
As said, turnout is the key. Texas has only around 55% or so turnout in the last presidential election.
Really? Please provide us evidence he has supported Trump "over and over again"?
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Conservatism is also about actually doing things, you know what talks.
3,000,000 new jobs, cutting governmental red tape, bringing North Korea to the negotiations table, seeing the collapse of the caliphate. Trump has now accomplished more than Senators like Rand Paul and again, Cruz has praised or defended Trump, at least two times in the past ten days.
Haters gonna hate as they say.
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Conservatism is also about actually doing things, you know what talks.
3,000,000 new jobs, cutting governmental red tape, bringing North Korea to the negotiations table, seeing the collapse of the caliphate. Trump has now accomplished more than Senators like Rand Paul and again, Cruz has praised or defended Trump, at least two times in the past ten days.
Haters gonna hate as they say.
I'm trying to find your GOOD Side, be your Friend, so to speak @TomSea so I won't respond to all that BS!
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My remarks will go against the general tenor of this thread, but seems to me that alarm bells are ringin' down in Texas.
Mr. Cruz will probably win, but I sense this is gonna be closer than you would have hoped.
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My remarks will go against the general tenor of this thread, but seems to me that alarm bells are ringin' down in Texas.
Mr. Cruz will probably win, but I sense this is gonna be closer than you would have hoped.
Absolutely it will be closer than I could have hoped. I can't imagine why a larger majority wouldn't vote for Cruz.
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My remarks will go against the general tenor of this thread, but seems to me that alarm bells are ringin' down in Texas.
Mr. Cruz will probably win, but I sense this is gonna be closer than you would have hoped.
Let not your heart not be troubled. Paddy will pull in two maybe 4 counties where the liberal infestation is like cockaroach hive. Cruz will win. Be warned. The press will show him failing in the earlier returns. It is how the rats report down there.
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Let not your heart not be troubled. Paddy will pull in two maybe 4 counties where the liberal infestation is like cockaroach hive. Cruz will win. Be warned. The press will show him failing in the earlier returns. It is how the rats report down there.
I'll give Paddy Austin and El Paso.
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I'm trying to find your GOOD Side, be your Friend, so to speak @TomSea so I won't respond to all that BS!
Actually @corbe It may astonish you, but @TomSea has made more sense lately than a lot of other people.
Hey, you wanted me back ... now you have to deal with me.
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Absolutely it will be closer than I could have hoped. I can't imagine why a larger majority wouldn't vote for Cruz.
Freaks me out to @Sanguine.
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Trump effect on the GOP perhaps, there's still a lot of hate over there toward him, though they try to cover it up improbable, like a cat covering crap on a marble floor, it's one of those stains that don't come out in the Wash.
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It's kinda sad how otherwise intelligent people let the mainstream media and clueless entertainers seep into their consciousness. Be on guard. Trump is not THAT bad.
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Work like you are 20 points down. Take nothing for granted and never be complacent.
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I'll give Paddy Austin and El Paso.
Yep and Harris Co. (houston) and Dallas Co (dallas) would round out the rats strongholds.
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Actually @corbe It may astonish you, but @TomSea has made more sense lately than a lot of other people.
Hey, you wanted me back ... now you have to deal with me.
Damn right I wanted you back, I missed you and I realize everyone needs a Sabbatical from this excellent Forum from time to time.
I like @TomSea but I've given him room of late because he believes, like @Frank Cannon, that I'm an unsupervised, unintelligent azzhole. Most times I'm OK with that but Tom and I are fellow Moderators over in Music, it gets messy at times due to NTism.
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He'll definitely take Bexar County also (SanTonio).
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Yep and Harris Co. (houston) and Dallas Co (dallas) would round out the rats strongholds.
Which are very high population areas so he needs to do more work on GOTV efforts in the rest of the State.
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I would not dismiss the poll out of hand: Polarizing candidate in his own party, first midterm for a horrible President, and a state with rapidly shifting demographics. Trump won the retired voters (some of whom are now dead) by 29 points and lost among those younger than 45.
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Work like you are 20 points down. Take nothing for granted and never be complacent.
:amen:
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There's no room for complacency in this election, but there's no reason for angst or despair.
The media will pick up this story and run with it over and over and over again .... each time trying to make it appear as though it's a new report; each time trying to pour water into that fictitious "blue wave".
Don't fall prey to it. Keep working for the Senator's reelection any and all ways you can. We didn't believe they media crap in November 2016, let's not give them the credibility they don't deserve in November 2018.
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There's no room for complacency in this election, but there's no reason for angst or despair.
The media will pick up this story and run with it over and over and over again .... each time trying to make it appear as though it's a new report; each time trying to pour water into that fictitious "blue wave".
Don't fall prey to it. Keep working for the Senator's reelection any and all ways you can. We didn't believe they media crap in November 2016, let's not give them the credibility they don't deserve in November 2018.
Has Trump changed his mind on getting rid of Cruz?
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Has Trump changed his mind on getting rid of Cruz?
Have you lost yours?
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Looks like the GOP should send Mitt Romney in to run for that seat since Cruz is looking to lose. He'll save the day.
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Looks like the GOP should send Mitt Romney in to run for that seat since Cruz is looking to lose. He'll save the day.
Hi Ho Mormon and away!
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Yes, Cruz realized his wagon was already hitched for his upcoming re election so he gave up his alter Ego
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and opted for this instead.
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He'll be back.
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Yes, Cruz realized his wagon was already hitched for his upcoming re election so he gave up his alter Ego
The only person you can blame for a poor showing in an election is the candidate. Abbott did well there. Trump did well there. Cruz....not so much it looks.
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He's running in a party that has abandoned Conservative principles since Goldwater, incrementally, @Frank Cannon.
He didn't leave the party, it has never been his to begin with, just a political vehicle, and Trumps election proves it.
EDITED: Trump got his azz whupped in Texas, incidentally.
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Has Trump changed his mind on getting rid of Cruz?
Bingo. That is my thought as well. We know darn well, that Trump, the GOPe, the RNC, the NRSC and the DEMS would like nothing more than to get rid of Cruz.
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He's running in a party that has abandoned Conservative principles since Goldwater, incrementally, @Frank Cannon.
He didn't leave the party, it has never been his to begin with, just a political vehicle, and Trumps election proves it.
:beer: :patriot:
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Have you lost yours?
Somebody did... Can you guess who?
“He said with the being a Canadian citizen, he said, ‘Oh I didn’t know that.’ How did he not know that? Then he said with the loans, ‘Oh, I didn’t know that,’ Smart guy. He doesn’t know that? Yeah, that’s worse than Hillary when you think about it,†Trump said of Cruz on Jan. 20.
“You are the single biggest liar. You probably are worse than Jeb Bush,†Trump told Cruz at a primary debate on Feb. 13. “Nasty guy. Now I know why he doesn’t have one endorsement from any of his colleagues.â€
“Lyin’ Ted Cruz just used a picture of Melania from a G.Q. shoot in his ad. Be careful, Lyin’ Ted, or I will spill the beans on your wife!†Trump tweeted on March 22.
“His father was with Lee Harvey Oswald prior to Oswald’s being—you know, shot. I mean, the whole thing is ridiculous,†Trump said about Cruz’s father, Rafael, in an interview on May 3. “What was he doing with Lee Harvey Oswald shortly before the death? Before the shooting? It’s horrible.â€
“Honestly, he may have ruined his political career. I feel so badly. I feel so badly. And you know, he’ll come and endorse over the next little while. He’ll—because he has no choice. But I don’t want his endorsement. What difference does it make? I don’t want his endorsement. I have such great—I don’t want his endorsement. Ted, stay home, relax, enjoy yourself,†Trump said at a press conference on July 22.
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Somebody did... Can you guess who?
“He said with the being a Canadian citizen, he said, ‘Oh I didn’t know that.’ How did he not know that? Then he said with the loans, ‘Oh, I didn’t know that,’ Smart guy. He doesn’t know that? Yeah, that’s worse than Hillary when you think about it,†Trump said of Cruz on Jan. 20.
“You are the single biggest liar. You probably are worse than Jeb Bush,†Trump told Cruz at a primary debate on Feb. 13. “Nasty guy. Now I know why he doesn’t have one endorsement from any of his colleagues.â€
“Lyin’ Ted Cruz just used a picture of Melania from a G.Q. shoot in his ad. Be careful, Lyin’ Ted, or I will spill the beans on your wife!†Trump tweeted on March 22.
“His father was with Lee Harvey Oswald prior to Oswald’s being—you know, shot. I mean, the whole thing is ridiculous,†Trump said about Cruz’s father, Rafael, in an interview on May 3. “What was he doing with Lee Harvey Oswald shortly before the death? Before the shooting? It’s horrible.â€
“Honestly, he may have ruined his political career. I feel so badly. I feel so badly. And you know, he’ll come and endorse over the next little while. He’ll—because he has no choice. But I don’t want his endorsement. What difference does it make? I don’t want his endorsement. I have such great—I don’t want his endorsement. Ted, stay home, relax, enjoy yourself,†Trump said at a press conference on July 22.
Okay, Cruz, Cruz campaign,
Said Kasich was receiving Soros money,
Claimed Carson dropping out in Iowa, Rubio dropping out in Hawaii,
Campaign claimed Rubio said about the Bible, "there are few answers in there" or something like that.
Rubio’s campaign already has adamantly denied the CNN report -- and when it turned up in the Hawaii email, immediately blasted Cruz for “dirty tricks.â€
“Senator Cruz is up to his dirty tricks again spreading false rumors and lies. We won't allow him to do to Marco Rubio in Florida what he did to Ben Carson in Iowa," Rubio spokeman Joe Pounder said in a statement.
Hawaii is voting in the Republican contest Tuesday, along with Michigan, Mississippi and Idaho.
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2016/03/08/rubio-camp-accuses-cruz-dirty-tricks-over-hawaii-dropout-email.html (http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2016/03/08/rubio-camp-accuses-cruz-dirty-tricks-over-hawaii-dropout-email.html)
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He's running in a party that has abandoned Conservative principles since Goldwater, incrementally, @Frank Cannon.
He didn't leave the party, it has never been his to begin with, just a political vehicle, and Trumps election proves it.
EDITED: Trump got his azz whupped in Texas, incidentally.
Trump got his ass handed to him winning 52-43? That's absurd.
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He's running in a party that has abandoned Conservative principles since Goldwater, incrementally, @Frank Cannon.
He didn't leave the party, it has never been his to begin with, just a political vehicle, and Trumps election proves it.
EDITED: Trump got his azz whupped in Texas, incidentally.
@corbe
You don't represent Cruz in any way, if you did, you would commend the president on when he does well. If there is any phony conservatism, it's on your behalf. Yeah, the constitution party people, who account for something like .012 of the national vote, are trying to make it that they know what conservatism is, well, what have they done? Zilch, Nada.
Oh, yeah, Cruz won in his home state, in Oklahoma, fairly well in the rocky mountain west, loses Alabama, Mississippi, Georgia, practically everywhere else.
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Trump got his ass handed to him winning 52-43? That's absurd.
888sunglass
True, Texas is getting close to the flipping point, that's clear...it's getting closer and closer all the time.
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Border, Cruz praises, Syria attack, Cruz supports, Bolton, Cruz supports, Gorsuch, Cruz praises, while there are some disagreements that Cruz airs, it's clear at times, he has heavily supported Trump's agenda, these others, are just divisive. If it was Pres. Romney, Bush, Cruz, I'd support them to the best of my ability.
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Open your eyes @TomSea Sen. Cruz was polling exceptionally well in the South, even after that Rubio/Bible crap/NC you often quote, for Super Tuesday, Stone and Pecker took care of that with the Cruz/Mistresses foldout in the National Enquirer targeting the Evangelicals.
It's a Brave New World.
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Okay, Cruz, Cruz campaign,
Said Kasich was receiving Soros money,
Claimed Carson dropping out in Iowa, Rubio dropping out in Hawaii,
Campaign claimed Rubio said about the Bible, "there are few answers in there" or something like that.
Ah, you may have missed it, but this is about Cruz and whether or not Trump want's him gone like he said he did awhile back.
And actually it was Breitbart that claimed Kasich was receiving Soros money: http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2016/03/14/report-soros-money-funding-john-kasichs-presidential-bid/ (http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2016/03/14/report-soros-money-funding-john-kasichs-presidential-bid/)
And it was Carson's incompetence that was the direct cause of the misinformation reported by CNN and others due to Carson's bizarre behavior leaving the campaign - but you already know that.
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Open your eyes @TomSea Sen. Cruz was polling exceptionally well in the South, even after that Rubio/Bible crap/NC you often quote, for Super Tuesday, Stone and Pecker took care of that with the Cruz/Mistresses foldout in the National Enquirer targeting the Evangelicals.
It's a Brave New World.
@corbe
So? Cruz had these tricks in state after state...Yeah, as if these Evangelicals read the National Enquirer! With uniform results all over.
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Ah, you may have missed it, but this is about Cruz and whether or not Trump want's him gone like he said he did awhile back.
And actually it was Breitbart that claimed Kasich was receiving Soros money: http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2016/03/14/report-soros-money-funding-john-kasichs-presidential-bid/ (http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2016/03/14/report-soros-money-funding-john-kasichs-presidential-bid/)
And it was Carson's incompetence that was the direct cause of the misinformation reported by CNN and others due to Carson's bizarre behavior leaving the campaign - but you already know that.
Carson's incompetence, but a coincidence that in two states, the Cruz campaign said candidates were dropping out.
As for Kasich and the Soros story, here's another:
A few hours before polls closed in the Empire State, John Kasich’s strategist John Weaver tweeted that the Texan was responsible for misleading robocalls—which falsely claimed that New York’s Democratic governor had endorsed Kasich.
https://www.thedailybeast.com/its-john-kasichs-turn-to-accuse-ted-cruz-of-dirty-tricks (https://www.thedailybeast.com/its-john-kasichs-turn-to-accuse-ted-cruz-of-dirty-tricks)
Even if this was unproven, state after state we heard of these kinds of things.
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You got me with that @TomSea
Yeah, as if these Evangelicals read the National Enquirer!
My bias is obviously showing again, fortunately it's not my Slip.
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Carson's incompetence, but a coincidence that in two states, the Cruz campaign said candidates were dropping out.
As for Kasich and the Soros story, here's another:
Even if this was unproven, state after state we heard of these kinds of things.
Everyone knows "robocalls" are all legitimate and made by the campaigns and no one else...
Trump won, you got the "conservatism" you voted for. By happy. Trump's legacy will be around for awhile and we'll make sure you get all due credit for it.
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Cruz camp lays into 'pathetic' Rubio amid Photoshop dispute
(http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bNK78-E-FmQ#)
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Cruz Campaign Pushes Photoshopped Image of Rubio Shaking Hands with Obama
by Alex Griswold | 10:55 am, February 18th, 2016
The Rubio campaign was predictably less than amused. “This is how phony and deceitful the Cruz campaign has become,†Rubio advisor Todd Harris told a gaggle of reporters in South Carolina, while holding up the image in question.
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The pushback comes after Cruz faced criticism for what his opponents termed “dirty tricks†in Iowa. In particular, Cruz was criticized for pointing out an official-looking flyer telling voters they faced a “voter violation†unless they voted for him, and for telling supporters to spread a rumor that Ben Carson was dropping out of the race.
https://www.mediaite.com/online/cruz-campaign-pushes-photoshopped-image-of-rubio-shaking-hands-with-obama/ (https://www.mediaite.com/online/cruz-campaign-pushes-photoshopped-image-of-rubio-shaking-hands-with-obama/)
Cruz also had Beck on his side, national exposure, more popular probably in some markets.
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Cruz camp lays into 'pathetic' Rubio amid Photoshop dispute
(https://leadstories.com/Rubio%20Cruz%20photoshop.jpg)
https://www.mediaite.com/online/cruz-campaign-pushes-photoshopped-image-of-rubio-shaking-hands-with-obama/ (https://www.mediaite.com/online/cruz-campaign-pushes-photoshopped-image-of-rubio-shaking-hands-with-obama/)
Yep, all those poor voters were fooled by two men floating in the air with the capitol in the background as if it was a real picture. It was so obvious a fake (complete w/ faded grayed background that shows better in the full photo / not cropped) that if that swayed anyone in how they voted, they were either a democrat or a Trump supporter to begin with.
BTW... got any pictures of Jeb Bush picking his nose? Trump did (and it was also photoshopped).
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This was the kind of wup~azz I was talking about @Frank Cannon and if I'm not mistaken 51k Texans said that they've had enough and voted third party NOT Libertarian/Green in the General.
Texas GOP Primary 2016
Candidates Vote Pct. Delegates
Ted Cruz 1,239,370 43.8% 104
Donald J. Trump 757,618 26.7 48
Marco Rubio 502,223 17.7 3
Not living in the past, just trying to reaffirm my point that when Texans had a 'real' choice they didn't chose Trump.
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I hope you're right about Cruz's margin of victory but wrong about him ditching the GOP.
It makes me cringe when people talk this way. There is no third party that could win an election for dog catcher. There won't be for years. I see no progress in that direction at all.
We need Cruz in the Republican Party where he can help to reform it.
I agree. The R party with Conservatives of all stripes.... Tea and Trump, are about to lay claim to a Senate, one if not filibuster pruf is one that is strong enough to nuk the filibuster.
Now is not the time to go third.
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Obviously, I didn't stay at a Holiday Inn Express last night but each day that passes that a viable Third Party is not making noise is a day wasted. Should have started up in Jan 2017. The few Conservative Leaders we have in the GOP are still sucking on it's teat for political expediency ($$$$) and re election. This GOP/DEM madness must stop if we are to survive as a Constitutional Republic.
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Obviously, I didn't stay at a Holiday Inn Express last night but each day that passes that a viable Third Party is not making noise is a day wasted. Should have started up in Jan 2017. The few Conservative Leaders we have in the GOP are still sucking on it's teat for political expediency ($$$$) and re election. This GOP/DEM madness must stop if we are to survive as a Constitutional Republic.
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Take a chill pill @corbe , you shouldn't be upset at people if they have the same views as Ted Cruz who you hold in such high esteem.
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Obviously, I didn't stay at a Holiday Inn Express last night but each day that passes that a viable Third Party is not making noise is a day wasted. Should have started up in Jan 2017. The few Conservative Leaders we have in the GOP are still sucking on it's teat for political expediency ($$$$) and re election. This GOP/DEM madness must stop if we are to survive as a Constitutional Republic.
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The Constitution Party made great strides last election cycle, but reality is it's not enough and the chances of a third party win is dismal, bleak and virtually impossible. Once the GOP loses the majority in the Senate and the House; and perhaps not this election cycle, but more than likely, it's game over for this Constitutional Republic as we know it. From that point forward we will see amnesty granted and the sheer number of new DEM voters will far outweigh the voting base of the GOP with a very slim chance of them ever being seated again as a majority.
I think it's safe to say when TX goes, so goes the Republic. Ted is in trouble BIGLY. We can count on Trump, the GOPe, the NRSC and the RNC to make sure that he never sees the Senate again. After all, I believe that was Trump's objective in the first place - to stop the conservative movement.
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This was the kind of wup~azz I was talking about @Frank Cannon and if I'm not mistaken 51k Texans said that they've had enough and voted third party NOT Libertarian/Green in the General.
Texas GOP Primary 2016
Candidates Vote Pct. Delegates
Ted Cruz 1,239,370 43.8% 104
Donald J. Trump 757,618 26.7 48
Marco Rubio 502,223 17.7 3
Not living in the past, just trying to reaffirm my point that when Texans had a 'real' choice they didn't chose Trump.
It's his home effing state and he couldn't break 50% in a 3 man race, one of whom was on his was out the door at the time (Rubio). I also recall Cruz limping along losing after that with a high level team while Trump had no organization wiping the floor with him.
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LOL. How'd they do last election? Oh yeah. They came in behind the Green Party.
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I agree with @TomSea yall a bunch of Haters
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I agree with @TomSea yall a bunch of Haters
In my case you're mistaking hater with realist.
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LOL. How'd they do last election? Oh yeah. They came in behind the Green Party.
Sure, @Frank Cannon with ol' $hit Darrell Castle, who didn't want to run anyway, SS Lawyer (yes I know what that means).
Imagine, if you will, a NEW Dimension where most people realize there is no difference between Trump/McConnell/Ryan GOP and Schumer/Pelosi DEM and a few prominent Conservatives (Lee, Cruz, HFC) bolt and take over the Constitution Party which is just as ripe for picking as the GOP was in 2015. The Tea Party came to fruition in less time than two years. JS
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Sure, @Frank Cannon with ol' $hit Darrell Castle, who didn't want to run anyway, SS Lawyer (yes I know what that means).
Imagine, if you will, a NEW Dimension where most people realize there is no difference between Trump/McConnell/Ryan GOP and Schumer/Pelosi DEM and a few prominent Conservatives (Lee, Cruz, HFC) bolt and take over the Constitution Party which is just as ripe for picking as the GOP was in 2015. The Tea Party came to fruition in less time than two years. JS
The CP is a dead letter office. It has no structure. No apparatus to do shit. I don't think it is eligible for candidates in all state. If you are going to hitch your wagon to some "New Coke" the Libertarian Party is the only thing close to viable on a national scale. They also have better street cred.
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Open and equal access to the ballot is the political rights issue of 21st Century America. Without all political ideologies having a place in the free marketplace of ideas, on an equal footing with the top two in power, life is like an ice cream shop that only serves two flavors – customers grow weary and no longer buy. America flourishes when its citizens have real choices with which they identify philosophically. America’s representative system of constitutional governance is doomed to fail if voters continue to be offered only vanilla and chocolate when what they really want is mint chocolate chip or a hot fudge sundae.
And last but certainly not least, I'm triggered.
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This was the kind of wup~azz I was talking about @Frank Cannon and if I'm not mistaken 51k Texans said that they've had enough and voted third party NOT Libertarian/Green in the General.
Texas GOP Primary 2016
Candidates Vote Pct. Delegates
Ted Cruz 1,239,370 43.8% 104
Donald J. Trump 757,618 26.7 48
Marco Rubio 502,223 17.7 3
Not living in the past, just trying to reaffirm my point that when Texans had a 'real' choice they didn't chose Trump.
BFD, it's his homestate, Rubio didn't win his homestate but Kasich certainly did. Primary. Yeah, 51K is a huge number in relation to a population of 24-28 million.
@corbe
Also, you said others should take credit if they voted for Trump for what he's done.
Okay, defeating ISIS, bringing nuclear weapon threatening North Korea to the negotiation table, a robust economy, low unemployment, credit where credit is due, pro-life measures, instituting measures to give back religious freedoms to the populace, border security and the list goes on.
And not just words, such as in the case, of the good Senator, Senator Paul; and there is a place for that as well, believe me but as of now, Trump is definitely a more accomplished conservative than Senator Paul or even Rush Limbaugh.
And fine, so you are the Constitution party which has accomplished zilch as well; and I seriously looked into them in the past. So, you are all for doing nothing, fine, but I don't see that as a big accomplishment. They have their place as well, might as well go with the AIP, American Independent Party that has run Alan Keyes or George Wallace.
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Carson's incompetence, but a coincidence that in two states, the Cruz campaign said candidates were dropping out. As for Kasich and the Soros story, here's another:
Even if this was unproven, state after state we heard of these kinds of things.
@TomSea
@mystery-ak
@txradioguy
@Cyber Liberty
Tom, my friend, I kept up with Cruz happenings every day during the presidential election.
Cruz himself did not say Carson was dropping out. It was a Cruz worker who heard Carson was going home after that state's primary so he thought Carson was dropping out - CNN also said that. Once Cruz found out his worker said that, he stopped it.
It was a Cruz campaign worker in Hawaii who thought Rubio was dropping out and he said that to the press. Again, once Cruz heard that, he stopped it.
A campaign of any presidential candidate has thousands of workers and no candidate knows what an individual worker might say. What matters is what happens when the candidate finds out. Cruz did the right thing in every instance, stopping what was said.
This coming November election in Texas: I use actual numbers in a primary to be a "crystal ball" sort of, maybe, predictor of the November election. Democrats turned out in huge numbers for our primary - hundreds of thousands more than has ever happened in a non-presidential year in this state. I was amazed, in a bad way, when I studied the numbers.
At the present time, every Texas state office holder is a Republican. Both the Texas House and Texas Senate is a Republican majority. The worst case scenario is Gov. Abbott and Senator Cruz and all state offices change to Democrats and every county office, except for a few, turn Democrat. Surely that won't happen but the primary numbers have never been like they were this year. It is Trump who has caused this. You know what I think about Trump, but I am only one person; it is millions made up of Democrats, and likely all Independents who are going to show up and vote Democrat for all offices. Independents seldom show up at primaries; they wait until November.
This country is split about 40% Democrats and 40%; it is the 20% Independents who determine who is elected. Independents won't vote Republican this time as a direct vote against Trump. I wish this was not true, but it is what I see happening.
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888sunglass
True, Texas is getting close to the flipping point, that's clear...it's getting closer and closer all the time.
I was told by a democratic-Hispanic friend 30 years ago that Texas is on the way to becoming...the majority of the population being Hispanic. And that since they tend to be democrats, that the hand writing was on the wall. So as you say the flipping point gets closer each year and it is coming. Cruz will likely win, since he's running against a VERY LIBERAL opponent. If his challenger were a bit more conservative, or even acting like one....Cruz might be in trouble.
I'll gladly help support Cruz, in any way possible.
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Cruz himself did not say Carson was dropping out.
@Victoria33 the lie that Cruz said Carson was dropping out is one that certain people...at TBR and other places will never let go of.
They will continue to repeat that lie the way the DUmmies keep repeating the lie that President Bush said Saddam was behind 9/11.
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@roamer_1
I disagree. First, Trump was elected because people responded to his message which was very different from a conventional Republican message.
Second, if we could remove the Bad Trump from the Good Trump, we'd have a decent president.
Fortunately, the Bad Trump doesn't actually do anything. He just makes infuriating tweets and takes things too personally.
The Good Trump has done a lot of good things that actually matter.
We had one Statesman in the running and he lost. I think Cruz will be President eventually
I am going to vote for Cruz, but believe me he is no statesman not even close. Cruz did well early
because he was Trump's "Me too" candidate. Everything Trump said Cruz said "Me too". Cruz
fell apart when his campaign turned nasty and folks started to see him as a phony. Not keeping
his word to support the party's nominee didn't help any. Cruz has got lots of ugly warts but he
is not a democrat, so I will vote for him rather then waste my vote on some third party guy that
has zero chance of being elected.
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I am going to vote for Cruz, but believe me he is no statesman not even close. Cruz did well early
because he was Trump's "Me too" candidate. Everything Trump said Cruz said "Me too". Cruz
fell apart when his campaign turned nasty and folks started to see him as a phony. Not keeping
his word to support the party's nominee didn't help any. Cruz has got lots of ugly warts but he
is not a democrat, so I will vote for him rather then waste my vote on some third party guy that
has zero chance of being elected.
:silly: :silly:
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My remarks will go against the general tenor of this thread, but seems to me that alarm bells are ringin' down in Texas.
Mr. Cruz will probably win, but I sense this is gonna be closer than you would have hoped.
As I have been saying all along, if all the new comers and illegals vote Cruz could be in trouble.
The Rats are out for revenge and will turn out to vote. Republicans better turn out too, if not
Cruz loses.
Texas has been slowly turning blue as more and more liberals and illegals move here.
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I'll give Paddy Austin and El Paso.
Huston and Dallas too. Both used to vote R, now both vote D.
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Okay, Cruz, Cruz campaign,
Said Kasich was receiving Soros money,
Claimed Carson dropping out in Iowa, Rubio dropping out in Hawaii,
Campaign claimed Rubio said about the Bible, "there are few answers in there" or something like that.
What turned me against Cruz was his lying about being against legalization for illegals and his
claiming Trump made his fortune using eminent domain.
But I mostly like the way he votes in the Senate so he has earned my vote this election.
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@Victoria33 the lie that Cruz said Carson was dropping out is one that certain people...at TBR and other places will never let go of.
They will continue to repeat that lie the way the DUmmies keep repeating the lie that President Bush said Saddam was behind 9/11.
Cruz's campaign manager said it. He was fired over it.
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888sunglass
True, Texas is getting close to the flipping point, that's clear...it's getting closer and closer all the time.
Yep with all the "ann's" moving in the landscape is changing.
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I was told by a democratic-Hispanic friend 30 years ago that Texas is on the way to becoming...the majority of the population being Hispanic. And that since they tend to be democrats, that the hand writing was on the wall. So as you say the flipping point gets closer each year and it is coming. Cruz will likely win, since he's running against a VERY LIBERAL opponent. If his challenger were a bit more conservative, or even acting like one....Cruz might be in trouble.
I'll gladly help support Cruz, in any way possible.
@mrpotatohead
@txradioguy
@mystery-ak
@Freya
Potato, beginning in about 2000, the Texas Republican Party began opening offices in Hispanic neighborhoods. "Open an office and they will come." Election numbers show Hispanic "families" are not automatically Democrats. Many vote Republican due to their family values. Individual Hispanics are more likely to vote Democrat.
It is not true that many Hispanic 'illegals" vote in Texas. When a person signs up in a county to be on the voter list, that application is forwarded to the Texas Secretary of State. A search is done in all Texas records, to determine if that person is qualified to be a voter. If he/she is determined to be a valid voter, the county is informed to put that person on the voter list. If he/she is NOT a valid voter, that info. is sent to the county and the name is not listed on the voter list.
If a voter is suspected not to be a valid voter, the District Attorney of that county, has the responsibility to investigate to determine if that person is a valid voter. If the District Attorney does not do that, the Texas Attorney General has the responsibility to do it.
Most voter fraud happens in nursing homes. As the Judge of the Early Voting Ballot Board in our county, my workers threw out those illegal ballots and I gave workshops in Texas counties, showing them how to determine if those nursing home ballots are valid. I did that in Harris County, Houston, and illegal ballots from nursing homes there were thrown out in their next election.
There are state election laws and if those are followed, elections are fair and legal. Certainly, illegal problems happen as some people are "crooks"; the test is what happens when that is found out; what the District Attorney does to stop it; what the Texas Attorney General does to stop it.
I have told this story before: When Gov. Greg Abbott was Texas Attorney General, he prosecuted a woman for mailing in ONE illegal mail ballot. She was caring for her mother who was very ill. Her mother had received her mail ballot but she died before she could fill it out. Her daughter knew how her mother was going to vote, so she filled out the ballot and sent it in. The Early Voting Ballot Board knew the woman had died before the ballot was mailed. This info. was sent to Abbott and he prosecuted this woman for that one illegal ballot. Texas will get you for an illegal ballot.
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The real target date by the Dems for TX is more like 2020-24.
@Victoria33
I think you will enjoy the latest Time magazine piece by Ted Cruz:
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Huston and Dallas too. Both used to vote R, now both vote D.
@jpsb
Dallas was always Democrat, never Republican. Many years ago, I lived in the Dallas area, and met a Dallas lawyer who did some work for me. He told me of a political group that was forming and invited me to one of their meetings. The name of this group did not include the name "Republican" as he said they didn't want to be idenfied yet with that name. I did go to one of those meetings. In order to go, I had to miss going to work as Counselor of a school. The principal gave me time off to go to that meeting. It was a Republican "under cover" group trying to form to get members so they could make a difference in Dallas elections. The state of Texas was Democrat then.
The state turned Republican big time when George Bush was elected governor. We have been Republican since that happened.
Here is a list of Texas Governors:
Democrat until Republican Edmund Davis (1862-1865)
More Democrats until:
Republican Bill Clements (1979-1983)
Then Ann Richards Democrat (1983-1991)
Then George Bush Republican (1989-1994)
Republicans until now.
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The real target date by the Dems for TX is more like 2020-24.
@Victoria33
I think you will enjoy the latest Time magazine piece by Ted Cruz:
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DbJi2XVV4AEXygA.jpg:large)
Is there a link?
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@Sanguine
https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/ted-cruz-wrote-trumps-blurb-for-the-time-top-100-influential-people-of-2018-list (https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/ted-cruz-wrote-trumps-blurb-for-the-time-top-100-influential-people-of-2018-list)
I also posted in Entertainment before I saw Toms piece.
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Cruz describes Trump as a “flash-bang grenade thrown into Washingtonâ€... he never seems to be at a loss for words. As I read a little more, Ted's sense of humor came out. It is what it is. Question on my mind, will Trump help him in TX? No and hell no!
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@Sanguine
https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/ted-cruz-wrote-trumps-blurb-for-the-time-top-100-influential-people-of-2018-list (https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/ted-cruz-wrote-trumps-blurb-for-the-time-top-100-influential-people-of-2018-list)
I also posted in Entertainment before I saw Toms piece.
Thanks, Corbe.
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Actually @corbe It may astonish you, but @TomSea has made more sense lately than a lot of other people.[/b]
Hey, you wanted me back ... now you have to deal with me.
I'll second that emotion.... ^-^
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My intuition is this: Trump and Cruz are now in synch, for the most part. They see mutual benefits, from supporting each other.
Cruz should win the Texas contest, and hopefully Trump will campaign for him.
Cruz' writing indicates he understands disruption. Trump was elected due to his disruption.
Many/most in the emerging Dark Intellectual Web (right/center/left) are talking about needed "disruption," beyond politics, e.g. the need to challenge existing features of the status quo.
Scott Adams, Jordan Peterson, Ben Shapiro, Dave Rubin, Stefan Molyneux, Eric Weinstein, Bret Weinstein, Joe Rogan, Steven Pinker, Sam Harris, Candace Owens, James Damore, Tommy Sotomayer, and there are others.
All available on youtube, btw.
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Yep and Harris Co. (houston) and Dallas Co (dallas) would round out the rats strongholds.
He won Harris County last time around. And it was a RAT stronghold then.
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The only person you can blame for a poor showing in an election is the candidate. Abbott did well there. Trump did well there. Cruz....not so much it looks.
So .... you're believing polls now, Frank???
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:beer: :patriot:
Again. @libertybele I just ate breakfast and, while I respect your opinion, this sort of attitude is fruitless and makes me a little queasy. (Shouldn't have eaten the raisin bread)
There are two parties. One is totally corrupt and horrible and would ruin our country. The other can be infuriating in it's self-centered behavior that often forgets conservatism but is not totally bad.
The Republican Party has a lot of good people. It just needs more and it's our job to get rid of the dead wood and elect conservatives. Not throw up our hands.
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Somebody did... Can you guess who?
“He said with the being a Canadian citizen, he said, ‘Oh I didn’t know that.’ How did he not know that? Then he said with the loans, ‘Oh, I didn’t know that,’ Smart guy. He doesn’t know that? Yeah, that’s worse than Hillary when you think about it,†Trump said of Cruz on Jan. 20.
“You are the single biggest liar. You probably are worse than Jeb Bush,†Trump told Cruz at a primary debate on Feb. 13. “Nasty guy. Now I know why he doesn’t have one endorsement from any of his colleagues.â€
“Lyin’ Ted Cruz just used a picture of Melania from a G.Q. shoot in his ad. Be careful, Lyin’ Ted, or I will spill the beans on your wife!†Trump tweeted on March 22.
“His father was with Lee Harvey Oswald prior to Oswald’s being—you know, shot. I mean, the whole thing is ridiculous,†Trump said about Cruz’s father, Rafael, in an interview on May 3. “What was he doing with Lee Harvey Oswald shortly before the death? Before the shooting? It’s horrible.â€
“Honestly, he may have ruined his political career. I feel so badly. I feel so badly. And you know, he’ll come and endorse over the next little while. He’ll—because he has no choice. But I don’t want his endorsement. What difference does it make? I don’t want his endorsement. I have such great—I don’t want his endorsement. Ted, stay home, relax, enjoy yourself,†Trump said at a press conference on July 22.
@DB Omigosh, you dug up every horrible thing Trump ever said about Cruz. Well, maybe not everything but a lot of things.
It's no secret that Trump dislikes Cruz because Cruz is everything Trump is not. Cruz is an intellectual and a true conservative.
However, Cruz has treated Trump with respect and support (when he can) and the tiny part of Trump's brain that is reasonable has to recognize that.
I wish we could somehow put aside stuff that happened during the primaries and judge Trump solely on his substantive actions as President, which have not been bad at all.
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I would not dismiss the poll out of hand: Polarizing candidate in his own party, first midterm for a horrible President, and a state with rapidly shifting demographics. Trump won the retired voters (some of whom are now dead) by 29 points and lost among those younger than 45.
What are you talking about anyway? The last time a statewide election was won by Democrats was in 1994 by Bob Bullock for Lt Governor. This guy was a vet who urged Texans to re-elect Republican Bush for Governor, so he knew Texans far better than most Democrats.
You are sadly mistaken if you think the highly-popular Cruz will suffer in this election.
And he is definitely NOT a polarizing candidate in his own party in Texas. That is a CNN version. He is well-liked and representative of the views of most of us Texans.
You are reading too many liberal sites, friend. @cato potatoe
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Obviously, I didn't stay at a Holiday Inn Express last night but each day that passes that a viable Third Party is not making noise is a day wasted. Should have started up in Jan 2017. The few Conservative Leaders we have in the GOP are still sucking on it's teat for political expediency ($$$$) and re election. This GOP/DEM madness must stop if we are to survive as a Constitutional Republic.
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@corbe Wake up, baby. Work on building a Conservative Party in your spare time but we would be better served by working on electing conservative Republicans.
Don't forget the lesson of DB H. Ross Perot (Dallas Billionaire) He was a little Krazy but he had a message that resonated with a lot of voters ... AND... he gave us Willy Clinton.
Until a third party is known by more than .003 percent of the population, it is a fit subject for dreams but not reality.
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The Constitution Party made great strides last election cycle, but reality is it's not enough and the chances of a third party win is dismal, bleak and virtually impossible. Once the GOP loses the majority in the Senate and the House; and perhaps not this election cycle, but more than likely, it's game over for this Constitutional Republic as we know it. From that point forward we will see amnesty granted and the sheer number of new DEM voters will far outweigh the voting base of the GOP with a very slim chance of them ever being seated again as a majority.
I think it's safe to say when TX goes, so goes the Republic. Ted is in trouble BIGLY. We can count on Trump, the GOPe, the NRSC and the RNC to make sure that he never sees the Senate again. After all, I believe that was Trump's objective in the first place - to stop the conservative movement.
@libertybele Cheer up and stop reading the Dallas Morning News and watching CNN.
Ted Cruz is not in trouble in Texas and his opponent cannot possibly attract a lot of votes. His opponent is an opportunistic nobody and Ted is widely loved and respected.
Texas is a successful state because of conservative state and local government ... except for a few fetid holes of liberalism.
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@TomSea
@mystery-ak
@txradioguy
@Cyber Liberty
Tom, my friend, I kept up with Cruz happenings every day during the presidential election.
Cruz himself did not say Carson was dropping out. It was a Cruz worker who heard Carson was going home after that state's primary so he thought Carson was dropping out - CNN also said that. Once Cruz found out his worker said that, he stopped it.
It was a Cruz campaign worker in Hawaii who thought Rubio was dropping out and he said that to the press. Again, once Cruz heard that, he stopped it.
A campaign of any presidential candidate has thousands of workers and no candidate knows what an individual worker might say. What matters is what happens when the candidate finds out. Cruz did the right thing in every instance, stopping what was said.
This coming November election in Texas: I use actual numbers in a primary to be a "crystal ball" sort of, maybe, predictor of the November election. Democrats turned out in huge numbers for our primary - hundreds of thousands more than has ever happened in a non-presidential year in this state. I was amazed, in a bad way, when I studied the numbers.
At the present time, every Texas state office holder is a Republican. Both the Texas House and Texas Senate is a Republican majority. The worst case scenario is Gov. Abbott and Senator Cruz and all state offices change to Democrats and every county office, except for a few, turn Democrat. Surely that won't happen but the primary numbers have never been like they were this year. It is Trump who has caused this. You know what I think about Trump, but I am only one person; it is millions made up of Democrats, and likely all Independents who are going to show up and vote Democrat for all offices. Independents seldom show up at primaries; they wait until November.
This country is split about 40% Democrats and 40%; it is the 20% Independents who determine who is elected. Independents won't vote Republican this time as a direct vote against Trump. I wish this was not true, but it is what I see happening.
@Victoria33 Way to go, Vic. How and why that Ben Carson story has become so distorted in the minds of the public will always be a mystery to me. As you explained, it was Ben and his people who were responsible for the whole bruhaha.
There are thing about Ben Carson I really like, but he is not stable enough to be a National candidate but I think he is in a good post right now for him.
Ben is so dumb that he abandoned Cruz to support the guy who called him some kind of predator. Trump said horrible things about Ben.
As for Trump, I think the tide is turning a little bit in his direction. He continues to shoot himself in the foot to the point that it is a miracle he can walk, but his actions have been good on the whole.
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@jpsb
Dallas was always Democrat, never Republican. Many years ago, I lived in the Dallas area, and met a Dallas lawyer who did some work for me. He told me of a political group that was forming and invited me to one of their meetings. The name of this group did not include the name "Republican" as he said they didn't want to be idenfied yet with that name. I did go to one of those meetings. In order to go, I had to miss going to work as Counselor of a school. The principal gave me time off to go to that meeting. It was a Republican "under cover" group trying to form to get members so they could make a difference in Dallas elections. The state of Texas was Democrat then.
The state turned Republican big time when George Bush was elected governor. We have been Republican since that happened.
Here is a list of Texas Governors:
Democrat until Republican Edmund Davis (1862-1865)
More Democrats until:
Republican Bill Clements (1979-1983)
Then Ann Richards Democrat (1983-1991)
Then George Bush Republican (1989-1994)
Republicans until now.
@Victoria33 Okay, I'm appointing you TBR's Official Texas Expert. You really know your stuff about Texas.
One thing I will always love about George W. Bush is that he beat Ann Richards to the point that she forgot that fake Texas drawl she always used. George's mommy (RIP) told him he didn't have a chance against Ann, but he proved her wrong.
The City of Dallas is mostly minority as most conservatives have moved into the myriads of suburban cities that surround Dallas and most of those cities are conservative.
If we could get a handle on the illegal immigration problem, it would solve a lot of Texas's current problems. Illegals get over the border in Texas and, unfortunately, lose any appetite for moving farther north.
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What are you talking about anyway? The last time a statewide election was won by Democrats was in 1994 by Bob Bullock for Lt Governor. This guy was a vet who urged Texans to re-elect Republican Bush for Governor, so he knew Texans far better than most Democrats.
You are sadly mistaken if you think the highly-popular Cruz will suffer in this election.
And he is definitely NOT a polarizing candidate in his own party in Texas. That is a CNN version. He is well-liked and representative of the views of most of us Texans.
You are reading too many liberal sites, friend.
I imagine Cruz will prevail, but not by 16 points this round. Trump went out of his way to alienate the types of people who are moving into Texas. Hillary Clinton did quite well in urban areas ... better than Obama, and far better than her husband.
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I imagine Cruz will prevail, but not by 16 points this round. Trump went out of his way to alienate the types of people who are moving into Texas. Hillary Clinton did quite well in urban areas ... better than Obama, and far better than her husband.
Please explain your comment @cato potatoe that Trump went out of his way to alienate the types of people who are moving into Texas.
What type of people are moving into Texas besides refugees from California and illegals from Mexico and exactly how did Trump alienate them?
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Before I do that ... why do you think Texas went 7 points bluer, while the country as a whole went 2 points redder than 2012?
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My intuition is this: Trump and Cruz are now in synch, for the most part. They see mutual benefits, from supporting each other.
Cruz should win the Texas contest, and hopefully Trump will campaign for him.
Cruz' writing indicates he understands disruption. Trump was elected due to his disruption.
Many/most in the emerging Dark Intellectual Web (right/center/left) are talking about needed "disruption," beyond politics, e.g. the need to challenge existing features of the status quo.
Scott Adams, Jordan Peterson, Ben Shapiro, Dave Rubin, Stefan Molyneux, Eric Weinstein, Bret Weinstein, Joe Rogan, Steven Pinker, Sam Harris, Candace Owens, James Damore, Tommy Sotomayer, and there are others.
Yep, I'm pretty sure politics is just a big game. They beat each other up during the day and go have dinner together at night. The only ones that hold a grudge are...us. :laugh:
I don't remember who said "It's business..not personal"
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Before I do that ... why do you think Texas went 7 points bluer, while the country as a whole went 2 points redder than 2012?
You first. Can you answer my question or not?
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You first. Can you answer my question or not?
@cato potatoe I wasn't trying to put you on the spot but you made such an odd statement about Trump that I sincerely wondered about your basis for saying that. If you don't want to explain, I sure can't make you.
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Since this is question hour I have one for you @Emjay: Did you really beat up Janis Joplin in High School?
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Sen. Ted Cruz (R-Texas) holds a narrow lead over Democratic challenger Rep. Beto O’Rourke (D-Texas), a poll released Wednesday
I went to RCP and read the entire poll. This same poll has Abbott only ahead by 9. Every Texan knows that's bullshit.
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Since this is question hour I have one for you @Emjay: Did you really beat up Janis Joplin in High School?
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Here's a different interpolation of the data
More On Shock Cruz Poll: The THREE POINTS Problem
Posted at 4:00 pm on April 19, 2018 by Carl Arbogast
Washington, D.C. and Texas are abuzz this morning with news of the new Quinnipiac poll showing Sen. Ted Cruz winning re-election by a mere 3 points.
But the biggest shock may be that private polling commissioned by an entity that is neither Democratic nor Republican and undertaken over a month ago now showed the same rough result– a narrow victory for Cruz, in which he would probably be pulled across the finish line not by his own record or campaigning, but by Texas Gov. Greg Abbott’s very high popularity.
Abbott, who will also be on the ticket this fall, boasts a net +35 approval rating, according to January Morning Consult data.
According to Quinnipiac, “Sen. Cruz gets lackluster grades, including a 47 – 45 percent job approval rating and a 46 – 44 percent favorability rating.†The same basic problem– Cruz is not well-liked– was at the root of his poor numbers in the private poll showing similarly lackluster performance by Cruz.
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https://www.redstate.com/arbogast/2018/04/19/shock-cruz-poll-three-points-problem/ (https://www.redstate.com/arbogast/2018/04/19/shock-cruz-poll-three-points-problem/)
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The same basic problem– Cruz is not well-liked– was at the root of his poor numbers in the private poll showing similarly lackluster performance by Cruz.
We have tangible proof of this by the fact he got destroyed in the Presidential primaries. He has a personality that turns people off and he does a shitty job at retail politics. All he has in his quiver are long winded scoldings and a list of policies without any viable way to enact them. Just look at the list of shit he sponsored....
https://www.congress.gov/member/ted-cruz/C001098?q=%7B%22sponsorship%22%3A%22sponsored%22%7D (https://www.congress.gov/member/ted-cruz/C001098?q=%7B%22sponsorship%22%3A%22sponsored%22%7D)
The only things that passed are stupid garbage that the country doesn't need or want. What the hell is the point of him?
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We have tangible proof of this by the fact he got destroyed in the Presidential primaries. He has a personality that turns people off and he does a shitty job at retail politics. All he has in his quiver are long winded scoldings and a list of policies without any viable way to enact them. Just look at the list of shit he sponsored....
https://www.congress.gov/member/ted-cruz/C001098?q=%7B%22sponsorship%22%3A%22sponsored%22%7D (https://www.congress.gov/member/ted-cruz/C001098?q=%7B%22sponsorship%22%3A%22sponsored%22%7D)
The only things that passed are stupid garbage that the country doesn't need or want. What the hell is the point of him?
Your argument is solid @Frank Cannon, other than pizz you Trumpers off, he hasn't got a lot accomplished in the Golden Age of Trump.
I'm neither surprised or disappointed. He's gonna kick yur azz in 2020, wait and see.
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Your argument is solid @Frank Cannon, other than pizz you Trumpers off, he hasn't got a lot accomplished in the Golden Age of Trump.
I'm neither surprised or disappointed. He's gonna kick yur azz in 2020, wait and see.
See. This is why I dismiss all this unicorn bullshit here. Reality based people see Trump with a shitpile of cash, a built in base, the bully pulpit and the ability to break through the news cycles. Beyond that it is close to impossible to beat a sitting President unless they really screw up. He isn't going to be challenged by anyone legit. Even if Cruz could find deep pockets to back his 2020 play, no one outside of Texas likes him. He will be Rick Santorum redux.
I cannot understand why all of you folks who hate Trump and bash the GOP automatically think everyone else does and on top of that you want to use the GOP apparatus you hate to pimp for your losers. Why not get off your lazy asses and get some of these 3rd parties viable on the local level in some states. Try for a state AG or Governorship. Make a real case for your movement instead of pushing some retread for the top slot in some pathetically Quixotic endeavor.
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Since this is question hour I have one for you @Emjay: Did you really beat up Janis Joplin in High School?
I wouldn't say beat up ... I may have slapped her pretty hard.
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I wouldn't say beat up ... I may have slapped her pretty hard.
Sounds hot. Do you have any more details....for historical purposes of course.
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All Good Points @Frank Cannon but you underestimate Trump's ability to keep stepping on his di*k, catching flak and giving up in frustration and opening the whole damn thing wipe open, the GOP is still just as ripe as it was in 2012, in fact Trump has made it almost as weak and divisive as the current DNC. It's a win/win for me, either way I get something to bitch about.
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I actually sang Me and Bobby McGee with a little band one time when I was well lubricated.
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All Good Points @Frank Cannon but you underestimate Trump's ability to keep stepping on his di*k, catching flak and giving up in frustration and opening the whole damn thing wipe open, the GOP is still just as ripe as it was in 2012, in fact Trump has made it almost as weak and divisive as the current DNC. It's a win/win for me, either way I get something to bitch about.
See. More unicorn farts. The Rat party was a shambles in 2012 and they had an unpopular President at the helm.......yet Obama won. I don't see any difference this time around. As a matter of fact Donny will have an easier ride if the Rats take the House. He'll have a built in whipping boy.
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See. This is why I dismiss all this unicorn bullshit here. Reality based people see Trump with a shitpile of cash, a built in base, the bully pulpit and the ability to break through the news cycles. Beyond that it is close to impossible to beat a sitting President unless they really screw up. He isn't going to be challenged by anyone legit. Even if Cruz could find deep pockets to back his 2020 play, no one outside of Texas likes him. He will be Rick Santorum redux.
I cannot understand why all of you folks who hate Trump and bash the GOP automatically think everyone else does and on top of that you want to use the GOP apparatus you hate to pimp for your losers. Why not get off your lazy asses and get some of these 3rd parties viable on the local level in some states. Try for a state AG or Governorship. Make a real case for your movement instead of pushing some retread for the top slot in some pathetically Quixotic endeavor.
Sometimes you're right, Frank, and sometimes you're wrong, but you're always interesting. It's not a question of Cruz versus Trump. Cruz will not run if Trump does and I'm afraid Trump will just to tick everyone off if nothing else.
Cruz absolutely has charm; he's funny and he can relate to people. He was virtually unknown outside of Texas at the start of the primaries but he's well known now. He would be as close to an ideal President as we could ever hope to get.
I don't say this to knock Trump. I've been defending Trump since he got elected and I think he's doing a decent job in spite of his personal handicaps.
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@jpsb
Dallas was always Democrat, never Republican.
OK, thanks for the correction.
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You first. Can you answer my question or not?
Well, we could start with hispanics. In the middle of the campaign, Trump declared a judge unfit to preside over his fraud case, because of his mexican heritage. Going forward, you'll have a group of voters who will never consider the GOP because they nominated this guy. At least David Duke sent his sheets to the dry cleaners while he ran for senate.
You said the migrants are illegals and Californians. In reality ... Texas has done an incredible job attracting young people from all over the country. Trump wants to jack their cost of living, to revive the zombie industries back home. They know it won't work. Texas has the largest asian population outside of New York and California. A populist GOP is not for them. Most of the new voters are women. Trump lost with females in Texas ... first time that has happened since 1996.
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Well, we could start with hispanics. In the middle of the campaign, Trump declared a judge unfit to preside over his fraud case, because of his mexican heritage. Going forward, you'll have a group of voters who will never consider the GOP because they nominated this guy. At least David Duke sent his sheets to the dry cleaners while he ran for senate.
You said the migrants are illegals and Californians. In reality ... Texas has done an incredible job attracting young people from all over the country. Trump wants to jack their cost of living, to revive the zombie industries back home. They know it won't work. Texas has the largest asian population outside of New York and California. A populist GOP is not for them. Most of the new voters are women. Trump lost with females in Texas ... first time that has happened since 1996.
Hah! Interesting take and more true than a lot of people realize. I lived in Irving for a long time and at one time, there were no Blacks in the Irving City Limits. I kid you not. There was little settlement outside the city limits called Bear Creek, where all the Blacks lived. Irving was strictly and totally Caucasian.
At the time I left Irving when I moved to Hawaii, things had changed so much that I deemed Irving the 'multicultural center of the world.' Irving was a magnet for Muslims for some reason. One large mosque was built and another one followed a few years later. It sure wasn't the Irving of my youth.
But despite Irving and what you see on TV, white people are still in the majority and Texas is still bright red.
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Hah! Interesting take and more true than a lot of people realize. I lived in Irving for a long time and at one time, there were no Blacks in the Irving City Limits. I kid you not. There was little settlement outside the city limits called Bear Creek, where all the Blacks lived. Irving was strictly and totally Caucasian.
At the time I left Irving when I moved to Hawaii, things had changed so much that I deemed Irving the 'multicultural center of the world.' Irving was a magnet for Muslims for some reason. One large mosque was built and another one followed a few years later. It sure wasn't the Irving of my youth.
But despite Irving and what you see on TV, white people are still in the majority and Texas is still bright red.
@cato potatoe Bright red, but bleeding a little.
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Frank Cannon, you're battin' close to 400 in this thread.
Keep swingin' at 'em!
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See. This is why I dismiss all this unicorn bullshit here. Reality based people see Trump with a shitpile of cash, a built in base, the bully pulpit and the ability to break through the news cycles. Beyond that it is close to impossible to beat a sitting President unless they really screw up. He isn't going to be challenged by anyone legit. Even if Cruz could find deep pockets to back his 2020 play, no one outside of Texas likes him. He will be Rick Santorum redux.
I cannot understand why all of you folks who hate Trump and bash the GOP automatically think everyone else does and on top of that you want to use the GOP apparatus you hate to pimp for your losers. Why not get off your lazy asses and get some of these 3rd parties viable on the local level in some states. Try for a state AG or Governorship. Make a real case for your movement instead of pushing some retread for the top slot in some pathetically Quixotic endeavor.
:howlin:
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See. This is why I dismiss all this unicorn bullshit here. Reality based people see Trump with a shitpile of cash, a built in base, the bully pulpit and the ability to break through the news cycles. Beyond that it is close to impossible to beat a sitting President unless they really screw up. He isn't going to be challenged by anyone legit. Even if Cruz could find deep pockets to back his 2020 play, no one outside of Texas likes him. He will be Rick Santorum redux.
I cannot understand why all of you folks who hate Trump and bash the GOP automatically think everyone else does and on top of that you want to use the GOP apparatus you hate to pimp for your losers. Why not get off your lazy asses and get some of these 3rd parties viable on the local level in some states. Try for a state AG or Governorship. Make a real case for your movement instead of pushing some retread for the top slot in some pathetically Quixotic endeavor.
Not worried about Cruz in 2020 as he hasn't announced his presidential run nor do I think he will, letting Trump run unopposed.
The article and focus is about the mid terms this year; a whole different ballgame.
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I hope you're right about Cruz's margin of victory but wrong about him ditching the GOP.
It makes me cringe when people talk this way. There is no third party that could win an election for dog catcher. There won't be for years. I see no progress in that direction at all.
We need Cruz in the Republican Party where he can help to reform it.
Hear hear.
Both parties closed up ranks after Ross Perot pulled in 18-20% of the votes and now third party candidates have a difficult time just getting on the ballot in most states.