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Title: Get Race Quotas Out Of The Cockpit Before We Literally Crash And Burn
Post by: Kamaji on July 19, 2023, 01:11:57 pm
Get Race Quotas Out Of The Cockpit Before We Literally Crash And Burn

Starting in 2020, airlines did two insanely stupid things: They forced a generation of their most experienced pilots into early retirement, then committed to new race-based hiring rules.

BY: PEACHY KEENAN
JULY 19, 2023

A wagon train sounds more appealing to me right now than setting foot on a plane with a pilot more trained in detecting microaggressions at work than changes in airspeed and altitude.

I hate flying. My poor husband still has a sore arm from where I grabbed him every time the plane hit turbulence on our last flight. I didn’t always hate it — I used to fly across the country to and from college constantly without thinking about it. I’d fly to Europe without stressing about anything other than how bored I’d be for 12 hours. The Chuck Yeager voice of the calm pilot telling me to put my seatbelt on was reassuring. I was in good hands — the best.

But after one super bumpy flight through a storm cloud during a landing in Paris, I developed a fear of turbulence. This led to me falling into a plane crash rabbit hole. I learned about every gruesome plane crash from the last 50 years. I began to try to find out what caused most crashes, in a vain attempt to prevent having to go out like that.

*  *  *

The miracle on the Hudson flight confirmed that in the unlikely event of a flight mishap, having a skilled pilot is literally your only hope.

This is why the degrading of pilot training and hiring in America fills me with existential dread. Since the pandemic-induced early buyouts of older and extremely experienced commercial pilots, I’ve been extra jumpy. Days before a flight, I start checking the turbulence maps to preview my fate. Looking at weather reports. Trying to figure out how old my actual plane will be and what its safety record is. I don’t fly certain airlines or during certain times of year (summer is thunderstorm season). You could not pay me to take an equator-crossing flight or one near Singapore, both routes known for bad turbulence.

*  *  *

The one thing that enables me to get on a plane is the certainty that my pilot is a highly trained professional, maybe a former Navy or Air Force pilot, with many years of experience flying through rough weather on lesser planes. Maybe he’s flown sorties off an aircraft carrier, dodged midair shrapnel. My nonstop from LAX to Kona is a piece of cake to this guy. Nothing’s gonna faze him. He will get the kids and me to our overpriced vacation destination!

Only, those guys are going the way of the dodo. Most new pilots have no military training. Some have never flown a plane before they walk into the United Airlines flight academy.

Equity Air
Starting in 2020, airlines panicked and did two insanely stupid things. They forced a generation of their most experienced pilots into early retirement, blaming the pandemic. Then, when they realized they’d triggered a catastrophic pilot shortage, they massively increased hiring. Unfortunately, it was 2020 so the new George Floyd rules were in effect. Airline after airline caved to the “diversity, equity, and inclusion” commissars and committed to new race-based hiring rules.

“Over the next decade, United will train 5,000 pilots who will be guaranteed a job with United, after they complete the requirements of the Aviate program — and our plan is for half of them to be women and people of color,” said United CEO Scott Kirby. “We’re excited that JPMorgan Chase has agreed to support our work to diversify our pilot ranks and create new opportunities for thousands of women and people of color who want to pursue a career in aviation.”

You may not be surprised to learn that it was newly trained United pilots who accidentally put a plane into a dive toward the ocean this year, coming a few hundred feet from turning the passengers into fish food. “The United Airlines pilots who were in the cockpit when their plane nosedived after taking off in Hawaii have been retrained, officials said — as aviation experts speculate they may have forgotten to program the aircraft’s autopilot,” The New York Post reported.

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Source:  https://thefederalist.com/2023/07/19/get-race-quotas-out-of-the-cockpit/
Title: Re: Get Race Quotas Out Of The Cockpit Before We Literally Crash And Burn
Post by: sneakypete on July 19, 2023, 01:27:02 pm
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“The United Airlines pilots who were in the cockpit when their plane nosedived after taking off in Hawaii have been retrained, officials said

Why doesn't that make me feel safer?

Could it be BECAUSE THEY SHOULD HAVE BEEN PROPERLY TRAINED IN THE FIRST PLACE?

BTW,in the spirit of openness,my  brother is a retired TWA pilot. He retired due to his age.
Title: Re: Get Race Quotas Out Of The Cockpit Before We Literally Crash And Burn
Post by: mountaineer on July 19, 2023, 01:52:16 pm
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Most new pilots have no military training. Some have never flown a plane before they walk into the United Airlines flight academy.
The photo accompanying the article is disturbing, too.
(https://thefederalist.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/07/air-e1689705576562.jpg)
Title: Re: Get Race Quotas Out Of The Cockpit Before We Literally Crash And Burn
Post by: LMAO on July 19, 2023, 01:58:25 pm
This diversity crap is sending us on the fast track to mediocrity especially in fields were ability and skill matters like flying a commercial airplane and medicine
Title: Re: Get Race Quotas Out Of The Cockpit Before We Literally Crash And Burn
Post by: mountaineer on July 19, 2023, 02:01:04 pm
This diversity crap is sending us on the fast track to mediocrity especially in fields were ability and skill matters like flying a commercial airplane and medicine
The design, engineering and construction of things like bridges and buildings, too. Do you really want to take chances driving across an affirmative action bridge?
Title: Re: Get Race Quotas Out Of The Cockpit Before We Literally Crash And Burn
Post by: Fishrrman on July 19, 2023, 10:28:10 pm
The last time I was on a big jet was 1984.

I won't be getting on one again.
Title: Re: Get Race Quotas Out Of The Cockpit Before We Literally Crash And Burn
Post by: mountaineer on July 19, 2023, 10:36:35 pm
Seriously, I'm becoming more and more nervous about air travel. That's a shame, because I really enjoy visiting Europe to explore my family roots and historical sites. Unless I can drive to England in a Chevy Colorado, I may be s.o.l.
Title: Re: Get Race Quotas Out Of The Cockpit Before We Literally Crash And Burn
Post by: bigheadfred on July 19, 2023, 10:39:35 pm
Seriously, I'm becoming more and more nervous about air travel. That's a shame, because I really enjoy visiting Europe to explore my family roots and historical sites. Unless I can drive to England in a Chevy Colorado, I may be s.o.l.

You could hit Biden up for a railway.
Title: Re: Get Race Quotas Out Of The Cockpit Before We Literally Crash And Burn
Post by: LMAO on July 19, 2023, 10:47:22 pm
From the article…

“Over the next decade, United will train 5,000 pilots who will be guaranteed a job with United, after they complete the requirements of the Aviate program — and our plan is for half of them to be women and people of color,” said United CEO Scott Kirby. “We’re excited that JPMorgan Chase has agreed to support our work to diversify our pilot ranks and create new opportunities for thousands of women and people of color who want to pursue a career in aviation.”

If a “person of color” wants to become an airline pilot and take the test and  to do it and passes…. Great

What makes me nervous is the goal of having half of their pilots to be women or people of color.
What happens if those groups don’t meet the training goals? I probably don’t want to know the answer to that question.
Title: Re: Get Race Quotas Out Of The Cockpit Before We Literally Crash And Burn
Post by: Kamaji on July 19, 2023, 11:17:47 pm
From the article…

“Over the next decade, United will train 5,000 pilots who will be guaranteed a job with United, after they complete the requirements of the Aviate program — and our plan is for half of them to be women and people of color,” said United CEO Scott Kirby. “We’re excited that JPMorgan Chase has agreed to support our work to diversify our pilot ranks and create new opportunities for thousands of women and people of color who want to pursue a career in aviation.”

If a “person of color” wants to become an airline pilot and take the test and  to do it and passes…. Great

What makes me nervous is the goal of having half of their pilots to be women or people of color.
What happens if those groups don’t meet the training goals? I probably don’t want to know the answer to that question.

Then the training goals get revised down until enough of them do make it. 
Title: Re: Get Race Quotas Out Of The Cockpit Before We Literally Crash And Burn
Post by: sneakypete on July 19, 2023, 11:19:54 pm
Seriously, I'm becoming more and more nervous about air travel. That's a shame, because I really enjoy visiting Europe to explore my family roots and historical sites. Unless I can drive to England in a Chevy Colorado, I may be s.o.l.

@mountaineer

There are always cruise liners going to and from Europe,and that trip itself is a very nice experience.
Title: Re: Get Race Quotas Out Of The Cockpit Before We Literally Crash And Burn
Post by: mountaineer on July 19, 2023, 11:24:23 pm
There are always cruise liners going to and from Europe,and that trip itself is a very nice experience.
I'll have to check out the cost of that!
Title: Re: Get Race Quotas Out Of The Cockpit Before We Literally Crash And Burn
Post by: Kamaji on July 19, 2023, 11:33:34 pm
I'll have to check out the cost of that!

Another option is renting a stateroom on a cargo ship.  The main difference between the cargo ship experience and the cruise liner is that on the cargo ship you have to keep yourself occupied and out of the crews way, as they’re not there to entertain one.
Title: Re: Get Race Quotas Out Of The Cockpit Before We Literally Crash And Burn
Post by: mountaineer on July 19, 2023, 11:37:57 pm
Another option is renting a stateroom on a cargo ship.  The main difference between the cargo ship experience and the cruise liner is that on the cargo ship you have to keep yourself occupied and out of the crews way, as they’re not there to entertain one.
Not a problem. I think I'd go mad on one of those cruise liners. Dressing for dinner? I think not!
Title: Re: Get Race Quotas Out Of The Cockpit Before We Literally Crash And Burn
Post by: Kamaji on July 19, 2023, 11:39:08 pm
Not a problem. I think I'd go mad on one of those cruise liners. Dressing for dinner? I think not!

Same here.  I’d love to be out in the middle of the ocean on a ship with nothing but my thoughts and the sound of the engines to keep me company.
Title: Re: Get Race Quotas Out Of The Cockpit Before We Literally Crash And Burn
Post by: sneakypete on July 19, 2023, 11:45:40 pm
Not a problem. I think I'd go mad on one of those cruise liners. Dressing for dinner? I think not!

@Kamaji   @mountaineer

Well,the only "cruise ship" I ever traveled on was a USN ship that pulls up to the shore and drops a big gate for trucks,tanks,and other vehicles to drive onto. I got stuck with being one of the escorts for a classified radio truck when the US pulled out of the Dominican Republic. Even had to sleep in the damn thing. There were two of us,so that one would always be there while the other one went to eat,etc,etc,etc.,so take my advise on this with  a whole damn block of salt.

Howsumever,while they DO have very formal dinners as well as entertainment,I  am sure they also have "less toney" dining experiences for people that have no interest in playing "Hollywood Movie".

After all,what are they going to do,refuse to feed you just because you  are not wearing a tux?
Title: Re: Get Race Quotas Out Of The Cockpit Before We Literally Crash And Burn
Post by: sneakypete on July 19, 2023, 11:50:04 pm
Same here.  I’d love to be out in the middle of the ocean on a ship with nothing but my thoughts and the sound of the engines to keep me company.

@Kamaji

There is NOTHING more relaxing,and you will never sleep better than when you are at sea,breathing all that clear air.

In addition to the LST,which MIGHT qualify as a ship,my very first job at age 13 was as a deckhand on a 38 foot shrimp boat my uncle  built and captained.

 There were no working hours versus resting hours. You slept while you were trawling,and when the bags were pulled out of the water,you were working until you had sorted out the whole catch and iced down what you were keeping.

When not working,I slept like a clubbed baby seal.
Title: Re: Get Race Quotas Out Of The Cockpit Before We Literally Crash And Burn
Post by: mountaineer on July 20, 2023, 12:07:14 am
@sneakypete My late father commanded a couple of LSTs in the South Pacific 1944-46 (interrupted only by hospitalization for some shipboard injuries).
Title: Re: Get Race Quotas Out Of The Cockpit Before We Literally Crash And Burn
Post by: SZonian on July 20, 2023, 12:45:12 pm
Will be traveling in October to meet our first grandchild...will NOT be flying United.
Not that there's any guarantee other airlines are any better, but they at least have not come out with this idiotic position.
Title: Re: Get Race Quotas Out Of The Cockpit Before We Literally Crash And Burn
Post by: Kamaji on July 20, 2023, 12:53:29 pm
Will be traveling in October to meet our first grandchild...will NOT be flying United.
Not that there's any guarantee other airlines are any better, but they at least have not come out with this idiotic position.

:thumbsup:
Title: Re: Get Race Quotas Out Of The Cockpit Before We Literally Crash And Burn
Post by: PeteS in CA on July 20, 2023, 02:31:56 pm
Quota-Mongers need to live in apartment buildings designed and constructed by AffAct engineers and contractors, use electronic devices whose power adapters and power supplies were designed by AffAct engineers, rely on AffAct cardiologists and neurosurgeons, and fly only an planes piloted by by AffAct pilots. You, put their lives where their mouths are.
Title: Re: Get Race Quotas Out Of The Cockpit Before We Literally Crash And Burn
Post by: DefiantMassRINO on July 20, 2023, 02:41:17 pm
Just add Commercial Pilot to the ever-growing list of professions that have become $h!t service jobs.
Title: Re: Get Race Quotas Out Of The Cockpit Before We Literally Crash And Burn
Post by: mountaineer on January 06, 2024, 01:49:12 pm
Reviving this thread to add a tweet I saw this morning:
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Ashley St. Clair
@stclairashley
Hey @united: On July 29, a United plane was nearly totaled after a hard landing
Who was flying that aircraft? Was the co-pilot a former flight attendant who was FIRED and then rehired through United’s DEI program despite being on a list to not return to United?
Am I correct that this individual failed multiple trainings including simulator training? Am I also correct that United has covered up this DEI disaster and many others?
2:00 PM · Jan 5, 2024

Ashley St. Clair
@stclairashley
Was the #2 at the Denver hiring center also onboarded through DEI? Did she or did she not change fail grades for DEI hires because “it makes the numbers look bad”?
Did the instructor who failed this co-pilot ask corporate why they passed him?
2:18 PM · Jan 5, 2024
Title: Re: Get Race Quotas Out Of The Cockpit Before We Literally Crash And Burn
Post by: SZonian on January 07, 2024, 02:11:01 am
Reviving this thread to add a tweet I saw this morning:
:thud:
Title: Re: Get Race Quotas Out Of The Cockpit Before We Literally Crash And Burn
Post by: LMAO on January 07, 2024, 02:37:11 am
Will never fly United Airlines

Although it's a matter of time before the other airlines follow this diversity over ability and competency BS
Title: Re: Get Race Quotas Out Of The Cockpit Before We Literally Crash And Burn
Post by: Right_in_Virginia on January 07, 2024, 04:40:34 am
Get rid of DEI ----- ALL of it.

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Boeing suffers another setback with Alaska Airlines emergency landing
CNN Business, Jan 6, 2024

Boeing faces scrutiny over the safety of its aircrafts after an Alaska Airlines flight was forced to make an emergency landing Friday when a panel and window blew out.

Although it’s unclear what or who was to blame for the incident, engineering and quality problems have plagued Boeing in recent years. The aircraft maker has seen a string of incidents that have results in tragedies, groundings and ongoing worries about safety.

Perhaps the most notable incident, in 2019, all 737 Max planes were grounded across dozens of countries following crashes of two of of its jets — one in Ethiopia and one near Indonesia — that killed all 346 people on board. It was determined a design flaw in the plane was a major cause of the crashes.

Boeing has encountered a slew of other problems in recent years and as recently as December when the FAA urged airlines to inspect all 737 Max planes in their fleets after the discovery of missing bolts in two planes’ rudder control systems.

In April, Boeing said it discovered a manufacturing issue with some 737 Max aircraft after a supplier used a “non-standard manufacturing process” during the installation of two fittings in the rear fuselage – although Boeing insisted the problem did not constitute a safety risk.

The Max has also faced numerous notices for additional inspections since it returned to service in 2020. Boeing says that’s a result of its increased focus on safety.

And problems have not been limited to the Max: Boeing has faced massive operating losses in all but one quarter since 2019. It was forced to halt deliveries of its 787 Dreamliner widebody jet because of quality control problems. Though the Dreamliner was not grounded like the Max, it still hurt the company’s bottom line.

https://www.cnn.com/2024/01/06/business/boeing-737-max-9-alaska-airlines/index.html


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Our Commitments

At Boeing, we strive every day to be the best, most equitable, diverse and inclusive company. This ambitious vision requires daily commitment and effort. We start with a foundation of equal employment opportunity — the notion that everyone should have an equal opportunity to work, to advance, to earn a living and to have a positive impact on their environments.

We strengthen that foundation by identifying and eradicating employment barriers, which brings us closer to our vision of equity. We take action by ensuring that employees are compensated equitably throughout their careers. Equal pay for equal work is the right thing to do and makes us a better, more inclusive and higher-performing company. We make these commitments to ourselves and one another as we seek to ensure that every one of us is valued, respected and inspired to bring our best selves to work every day.


https://www.boeing.com/principles/inclusion/index.page

Title: Re: Get Race Quotas Out Of The Cockpit Before We Literally Crash And Burn
Post by: the OlLine Rebel on January 07, 2024, 04:57:47 am
The photo accompanying the article is disturbing, too.
(https://thefederalist.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/07/air-e1689705576562.jpg)

Just what I need.  A Moslem in the cockpit first thing.
Title: Re: Get Race Quotas Out Of The Cockpit Before We Literally Crash And Burn
Post by: the OlLine Rebel on January 07, 2024, 05:01:41 am
@mountaineer

There are always cruise liners going to and from Europe,and that trip itself is a very nice experience.

OCEAN liner, thank you very much.  Real ships.

This “cruise” stuff is for shallow waters visiting hellhole beachheads.
Title: Re: Get Race Quotas Out Of The Cockpit Before We Literally Crash And Burn
Post by: LMAO on January 07, 2024, 07:10:38 am

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Our Commitments

At Boeing, we strive every day to be the best, most equitable, diverse and inclusive company. This ambitious vision requires daily commitment and effort. We start with a foundation of equal employment opportunity — the notion that everyone should have an equal opportunity to work, to advance, to earn a living and to have a positive impact on their environments.

We strengthen that foundation by identifying and eradicating employment barriers, which brings us closer to our vision of equity. We take action by ensuring that employees are compensated equitably throughout their careers. Equal pay for equal work is the right thing to do and makes us a better, more inclusive and higher-performing company. We make these commitments to ourselves and one another as we seek to ensure that every one of us is valued, respected and inspired to bring our best selves to work every day.


https://www.boeing.com/principles/inclusion/index.page


 :facepalm2: :facepalm2:

So nothing about safety?

Our passangers may die but at least they can die with the knowledge that we “celebrated diversity”
Title: Re: Get Race Quotas Out Of The Cockpit Before We Literally Crash And Burn
Post by: mountaineer on January 11, 2024, 07:04:30 pm
End Wokeness
@EndWokeness
Want to watch DEI disappear overnight?

Require every single DEI supporter to fly on planes flown by diversity hire crews.

Require them to have their houses built by diversity hire engineers.

Require them to have all their surgeries and procedures done by diversity hire surgeons.
 
Require them to have their kids taught by diversity hire teachers.

I could keep going for days.
6:22 PM · Jan 10, 2024
Title: Re: Get Race Quotas Out Of The Cockpit Before We Literally Crash And Burn
Post by: bigheadfred on January 11, 2024, 07:15:06 pm
Saw on X an air traffic controller giving a 15 year experienced pilot advice on a flight maneuver because she had Googled it.
Title: Re: Get Race Quotas Out Of The Cockpit Before We Literally Crash And Burn
Post by: LadyLiberty on January 11, 2024, 09:21:32 pm
https://twitter.com/MattWalshBlog/status/1745524322138018064
Title: Re: Get Race Quotas Out Of The Cockpit Before We Literally Crash And Burn
Post by: mountaineer on January 11, 2024, 11:11:00 pm
Boeing seems to be the wokest of them all. Good luck.
Title: Re: Get Race Quotas Out Of The Cockpit Before We Literally Crash And Burn
Post by: Right_in_Virginia on January 13, 2024, 02:53:02 pm
(https://westernrifleshooters.us/wp-content/uploads/2024/01/Screenshot-2024-01-12-at-9.13.52-AM.png)
Title: Re: Get Race Quotas Out Of The Cockpit Before We Literally Crash And Burn
Post by: LMAO on January 13, 2024, 03:21:27 pm
What happens when race quotas become more firmly entrenched in medicine?

It’s one thing to say I’m not gonna fly again. But if you’re sick or injured, you can’t say I won’t go to the doctor anymore.

What are the choices then?
Title: Re: Get Race Quotas Out Of The Cockpit Before We Literally Crash And Burn
Post by: sneakypete on January 13, 2024, 03:38:20 pm
What happens when race quotas become more firmly entrenched in medicine?

It’s one thing to say I’m not gonna fly again. But if you’re sick or injured, you can’t say I won’t go to the doctor anymore.

What are the choices then?

@LMAO

Be wealthy enough to be able to afford to get an appointment with a REAL doctor.
Title: Re: Get Race Quotas Out Of The Cockpit Before We Literally Crash And Burn
Post by: mountaineer on January 13, 2024, 05:03:49 pm
What happens when race quotas become more firmly entrenched in medicine?
I think we're already there, too.
Title: Re: Get Race Quotas Out Of The Cockpit Before We Literally Crash And Burn
Post by: mountaineer on January 15, 2024, 05:12:33 pm
This is Scott Kirby, the CEO of @united. He likes to dress up in drag. United hired a drag queen to be their CEO and now United has turned their focus to incorporating drag into their business and sponsoring drag shows.
https://twitter.com/libsoftiktok/status/1746759818721845501
Title: Re: Get Race Quotas Out Of The Cockpit Before We Literally Crash And Burn
Post by: LMAO on January 15, 2024, 06:09:01 pm
Only when their stock prices become adversely affected by this policy  will it change

Safety and human life are secondary concerns

Title: Re: Get Race Quotas Out Of The Cockpit Before We Literally Crash And Burn
Post by: Cyber Liberty on January 15, 2024, 06:14:26 pm
Pre-DEI (hired and retained by merit) are now sounding alarms about what will happen when enough skilled pilots retire, and both the Pilots and Copilots are DEI hires. 
Title: Re: Get Race Quotas Out Of The Cockpit Before We Literally Crash And Burn
Post by: Hoodat on January 15, 2024, 06:19:03 pm
United Airlines questioned about DEI impact on hard landing in Houston

Vivek Saxena  |  January 7, 2024


A conservative activist is raising questions about whether a relatively recent United Airlines hard landing was attributable to the company’s DEI agenda.

The hard landed occurred on July 29th as a previously uneventful United Airlines Boeing 767-300ER flight from the Newark Liberty International Airport to the George Bush Intercontinental Airport (IAH) in Houston turned awfully dramatic.

“According to the [National Transportation Safety Board’s] preliminary report, while landing at IAH, the First Officer was flying and, despite best efforts to keep the nose wheel from bouncing, the nose wheel made contact with abnormal force,” as reported by Simple Flying, an aviation news source.

“The airplane appeared to bounce, and he reacted by pulling aft on the control yoke, in an effort to keep the nose wheel from impacting the runway a second time. Subsequently, the speed brakes deployed, and the auto brakes engaged which resulted in a second bounce of the nose wheel.”

These bounces reportedly caused significant damage to the airplane.  .  .

https://www.bizpacreview.com/2024/01/07/united-airlines-questioned-about-dei-impact-on-hard-landing-in-houston-1425612/
Title: Re: Get Race Quotas Out Of The Cockpit Before We Literally Crash And Burn
Post by: Hoodat on January 15, 2024, 06:24:40 pm
https://twitter.com/Aviationwg_en/status/1686433671262195723
Title: Re: Get Race Quotas Out Of The Cockpit Before We Literally Crash And Burn
Post by: Cyber Liberty on January 15, 2024, 06:38:00 pm
https://twitter.com/Aviationwg_en/status/1686433671262195723

There is a high likelihood that plane is going to be totaled, but it won't be publicized.
Title: Re: Get Race Quotas Out Of The Cockpit Before We Literally Crash And Burn
Post by: Hoodat on January 15, 2024, 06:46:12 pm
There is a high likelihood that plane is going to be totaled, but it won't be publicized.

Imagine if the fuselage had snapped resulting in numerous injuries and deaths.  Think how this regime would have covered that up with hefty taxpayer-financed payouts, fixed tort trials, and other protections for United.
Title: Re: Get Race Quotas Out Of The Cockpit Before We Literally Crash And Burn
Post by: Wingnut on January 15, 2024, 07:01:46 pm
Has anyone seen or heard from Trans Sec Doorplug.
Title: Re: Get Race Quotas Out Of The Cockpit Before We Literally Crash And Burn
Post by: mountaineer on January 15, 2024, 07:08:31 pm
Has anyone seen or heard from Trans Sec Doorplug.
He and the United Airlines guy are probably trying on lingerie together.
Title: Re: Get Race Quotas Out Of The Cockpit Before We Literally Crash And Burn
Post by: bigheadfred on January 15, 2024, 07:12:02 pm
He and the United Airlines guy are probably trying on lingerie together.

From the Sam Brinton clothing line.
Title: Re: Get Race Quotas Out Of The Cockpit Before We Literally Crash And Burn
Post by: Wingnut on January 15, 2024, 07:14:10 pm
From the Sam Briton clothing line.

Ready Wear...right from the luggage carousel to the runway.
Title: Re: Get Race Quotas Out Of The Cockpit Before We Literally Crash And Burn
Post by: LMAO on January 15, 2024, 07:27:39 pm
From the Sam Brinton clothing line.

In stock at your local airport
Title: Re: Get Race Quotas Out Of The Cockpit Before We Literally Crash And Burn
Post by: mountaineer on January 15, 2024, 07:28:12 pm
From the Sam Brinton clothing line.
Wow, there's a terrific trio - the luggage thief Brinton, perpetually absent Buttgigger and the transvestite CEO, Scott Kirby. Just throw Admiral Rachel "Dick" Levine into the mix, and you have the quadfecta.
Title: Re: Get Race Quotas Out Of The Cockpit Before We Literally Crash And Burn
Post by: Wingnut on January 15, 2024, 07:30:05 pm
In stock at your local airport

Duty free booty.
Title: Re: Get Race Quotas Out Of The Cockpit Before We Literally Crash And Burn
Post by: LMAO on January 15, 2024, 07:43:15 pm
Wow, there's a terrific trio - the luggage thief Brinton, perpetually absent Buttgigger and the transvestite CEO, Scott Kirby. Just throw Admiral Rachel "Dick" Levine into the mix, and you have the quadfecta.

You don’t understand that diversity is the most important qualification. To the reeducation camps with you.
Title: Re: Get Race Quotas Out Of The Cockpit Before We Literally Crash And Burn
Post by: Hoodat on January 15, 2024, 08:02:40 pm
What happens when race quotas become more firmly entrenched in medicine?

What happens when race quotas become more firmly entrenched in the NBA?
Title: Re: Get Race Quotas Out Of The Cockpit Before We Literally Crash And Burn
Post by: mountaineer on January 15, 2024, 09:15:17 pm
Meet Maya Tallman, a man pretending to be a woman who's a pilot and runs a newly formed DEI Committee for @united
He sent a letter to employees about how excited he is to incorporate DEI into @united
Pray United is focused on safety just as much as they’re focused on diversity
https://twitter.com/libsoftiktok/status/1746993657696117227
Title: Re: Get Race Quotas Out Of The Cockpit Before We Literally Crash And Burn
Post by: Fishrrman on January 15, 2024, 11:31:39 pm
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/F2dqe6FWYAAy3aj?format=jpg&name=small)

That'll rub out...

That plane may disappear into a hangar, never to be seen again.
(at least not, intact)
Title: Re: Get Race Quotas Out Of The Cockpit Before We Literally Crash And Burn
Post by: Fishrrman on January 15, 2024, 11:33:51 pm
Meanwhile, over at the FAA:
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https://mustreadalaska.com/faa-hiring-targets-people-with-psychiatric-problems-and-severe-mental-disabilities-urged-to-apply/

FAA hiring targets: People with psychiatric problems and severe mental disabilities urged to apply
By Suzanne Downing - January 14, 2024

In order to meet its targets for Diversity Equity, Inclusion, and Accessibility, (DEIA), the Federal Aviation Administration is recruiting for people with severe mental disabilities, psychiatric problems and physical disabilities.

The recruiting campaign comes at an awkward time, as companies like Spirit AeroSystems, which built the malfunctioning fuselage for Boeing 737 MAX 9s, have crowed to their shareholders about hitting their DEI targets for hiring, and firing white men in order to met their diversity quotas.

Targeted disabilities by the FAA are people with disabilities that the federal government, as a matter of policy, has identified for special emphasis in recruitment and hiring,” the FAA’s website says.

The FAA’s targeted disabilities for hiring are, in the agency’s own words:

Hearing (total deafness in both ears)
Vision (Blind)
Missing Extremities
Partial Paralysis
Complete Paralysis, Epilepsy
Severe intellectual disability
Psychiatric disability
Dwarfism

“Individuals with targeted disabilities have the greatest difficulty obtaining employment. This is the only protected group for which Federal agencies may have a hiring goal,” the FAA says on its target web page.

According to the FAA, people with these disabilities can be hired “on the spot.”

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Title: Re: Get Race Quotas Out Of The Cockpit Before We Literally Crash And Burn
Post by: sneakypete on January 15, 2024, 11:35:05 pm
Duty free booty.

@Wingnut

You ain't fooling anybody. We ALL know you meant "DOODY" free booty".

Fess up!
Title: Re: Get Race Quotas Out Of The Cockpit Before We Literally Crash And Burn
Post by: mountaineer on January 15, 2024, 11:35:39 pm
People are going to die from this.
Title: Re: Get Race Quotas Out Of The Cockpit Before We Literally Crash And Burn
Post by: sneakypete on January 15, 2024, 11:51:25 pm
People are going to die from this.

@mountaineer

Yeah,but it won't be anybody important because the important people fly in private jets,and we all know there has to be a price paid to promote equality,right?

After all,what difference does it make if a few thousand peons have to die to promote equality? It ain't like they were important people.
Title: Re: Get Race Quotas Out Of The Cockpit Before We Literally Crash And Burn
Post by: Smokin Joe on January 15, 2024, 11:58:35 pm
@mountaineer

Yeah,but it won't be anybody important because the important people fly in private jets,and we all know there has to be a price paid to promote equality,right?

After all,what difference does it make if a few thousand peons have to die to promote equality? It ain't like they were important people.
Not only that, those 'rich folks' who can afford to fly are a targeted group for 'depopualtion' anyway.
Title: Re: Get Race Quotas Out Of The Cockpit Before We Literally Crash And Burn
Post by: LMAO on January 16, 2024, 12:05:25 am
People are going to die from this.

But it's a sacrifice our betters are willing to make
Title: Re: Get Race Quotas Out Of The Cockpit Before We Literally Crash And Burn
Post by: GtHawk on January 16, 2024, 01:13:28 am
What happens when race quotas become more firmly entrenched in the NBA?
:silly: :silly: I think that White basketball players that couldn't get on an NBA team should come out as trans and try out for the WNBA, get enough of them on the teams and viewership might even go up :pondering:
Title: Re: Get Race Quotas Out Of The Cockpit Before We Literally Crash And Burn
Post by: mountaineer on January 16, 2024, 02:51:39 am
Even the Zuckerbergs and Gateses of this world will be screwed when the air traffic controller guiding their private Lear jets to a landing is a deranged blind person in the midst of an epileptic seizure.
Title: Re: Get Race Quotas Out Of The Cockpit Before We Literally Crash And Burn
Post by: sneakypete on January 16, 2024, 10:46:30 am
Even the Zuckerbergs and Gateses of this world will be screwed when the air traffic controller guiding their private Lear jets to a landing is a deranged blind person in the midst of an epileptic seizure.

@mountaineer

They will make sure that doesn't happen by having one of THEIR competent ATC on stand-by duty at all times to handle "important flights".
Title: Re: Get Race Quotas Out Of The Cockpit Before We Literally Crash And Burn
Post by: mountaineer on January 17, 2024, 11:57:47 pm
Delta Introduces New Short Plane For Special-Needs Pilots
https://twitter.com/TheBabylonBee/status/1747307394508488846
Title: Re: Get Race Quotas Out Of The Cockpit Before We Literally Crash And Burn
Post by: mountaineer on January 18, 2024, 01:45:55 pm
Scott Kirby, the CEO of @united is a drag queen and has been incorporating drag into @united.
https://twitter.com/libsoftiktok/status/1747953008225521757
Title: Re: Get Race Quotas Out Of The Cockpit Before We Literally Crash And Burn
Post by: Polly Ticks on January 18, 2024, 02:30:31 pm
Scott Kirby, the CEO of @united is a drag queen and has been incorporating drag into @united.

Ugh.  So they're perverts AND bad dancers.  Got it.
Title: Re: Get Race Quotas Out Of The Cockpit Before We Literally Crash And Burn
Post by: mountaineer on January 21, 2024, 05:10:19 pm
Wow, United Airlines is batting .000.

Jack Poso 🇺🇸
@JackPosobiec
If United is willing to do this to a Congressman and his family, imagine what they're willing to do to you
https://twitter.com/JackPosobiec/status/1748903256682549755
Quote
Sara A. Carter
@SaraCarterDC
I know exactly how Rep. Dan Crenshaw feels because I was reprimanded by a flight attendant on American Airlines over Thanksgiving because I didn’t forewarn them in a specific letter on their computer system that my husband was blind. YES, my violation was not reporting my husbands disability.

They also treated my husband like he was mental because they didn’t want to talk to him - they only wanted to talk to me and left my Veteran husband standing in the jetway when she called me back onto the plane to point her finger at me and tell me that I must  advise them of my husbands disability.

She couldn’t tell he was blind until we were walking off the plane and we slept the whole flight. I said “Why? We weren’t sitting in an emergency row and there is no law requiring me to report it.” - I told her also my husband is a grown man - I’m his wife, not his babysitter - he may be blind but he can speak for himself -  he’s perfectly fine and doesn’t need anyone to talk for him.

Wow watching the Crenshaw video brings back so many memories of that horrific flight going to our anniversary vacation - I’m glad Dan spoke up because frankly the some of the airline employee #FlightBullies treat paying customers is unbelievable.
Title: Re: Get Race Quotas Out Of The Cockpit Before We Literally Crash And Burn
Post by: mountaineer on January 22, 2024, 07:52:45 pm
A Virgin Atlantic flight was canceled after a passenger noticed missing bolts. Maybe VA should focus less on drag queens and LGBTQ pride and more on safety. DEI will get people killed.
https://twitter.com/libsoftiktok/status/1749473306305265735
Title: Re: Get Race Quotas Out Of The Cockpit Before We Literally Crash And Burn
Post by: DefiantMassRINO on January 22, 2024, 08:00:00 pm
Where's Pothole Pete while all these Boeing plans are spontaneously burning or falling apart, mid-flight?

(https://haroldblackphd.files.wordpress.com/2023/04/th-389400908.jpeg?w=474)
Title: Re: Get Race Quotas Out Of The Cockpit Before We Literally Crash And Burn
Post by: Wingnut on January 22, 2024, 09:45:02 pm
A Virgin Atlantic flight was canceled after a passenger noticed missing bolts. Maybe VA should focus less on drag queens and LGBTQ pride and more on safety. DEI will get people killed.
https://twitter.com/libsoftiktok/status/1749473306305265735


Bolts?  FFS those arent missing bolts.   
Title: Re: Get Race Quotas Out Of The Cockpit Before We Literally Crash And Burn
Post by: sneakypete on January 22, 2024, 10:33:47 pm

Bolts?  FFS those arent missing bolts.

@Wingnut

Rivets,which is MUCH worse because rivets are not supposed to come loose and just disappear.
Title: Re: Get Race Quotas Out Of The Cockpit Before We Literally Crash And Burn
Post by: Smokin Joe on January 23, 2024, 02:56:51 am

Bolts?  FFS those arent missing bolts.
Flush rivets. five missing, heads are gone off of others in the row.

Not a good look. :shrug:
Title: Re: Get Race Quotas Out Of The Cockpit Before We Literally Crash And Burn
Post by: SZonian on January 23, 2024, 12:08:32 pm

Bolts?  FFS those arent missing bolts.
Panel screws...see the adjacent fasteners.
Title: Re: Get Race Quotas Out Of The Cockpit Before We Literally Crash And Burn
Post by: Maj. Bill Martin on January 23, 2024, 12:32:24 pm
:silly: :silly: I think that White basketball players that couldn't get on an NBA team should come out as trans and try out for the WNBA, get enough of them on the teams and viewership might even go up :pondering:

I'm a moderator on an NBA-oriented sports board, and one of the guys PM'd me (couldn't post it publicly) yesterday and asked "if a team of male to female trannies played a team of male to female trannies, who would have the advantage?". Personally, as long as they were post-puberty transitions, I'd go with the male to females.

Strange world in which we are living.
Title: Re: Get Race Quotas Out Of The Cockpit Before We Literally Crash And Burn
Post by: goatprairie on January 23, 2024, 11:46:49 pm
What happens when race quotas become more firmly entrenched in the NBA?
ha, ha, I never get an answer when I ask the DEI people about pro basketball and pro football. The NBA...80% black. The NFL about 70%. Black percentage of the general population is about 13%.
But even in major colleges black athletes predominate in football and basketball.
It's like you didn't ask the question, but basically they're ignoring you because it destroys their argument.
Title: Re: Get Race Quotas Out Of The Cockpit Before We Literally Crash And Burn
Post by: mountaineer on February 06, 2024, 10:35:46 pm
Current job listing for an air traffic controller on the FAA's website is open to people with disabilities including psychiatric & intellectual delays.

Doesn't it make you feel safe knowing your air traffic controller can have an intellectual disability or have a seizure while directing your flight?
https://twitter.com/libsoftiktok/status/1754937349706752079
Title: Re: Get Race Quotas Out Of The Cockpit Before We Literally Crash And Burn
Post by: LMAO on February 06, 2024, 10:48:29 pm
Current job listing for an air traffic controller on the FAA's website is open to people with disabilities including psychiatric & intellectual delays.

Doesn't it make you feel safe knowing your air traffic controller can have an intellectual disability or have a seizure while directing your flight?
https://twitter.com/libsoftiktok/status/1754937349706752079

We are the guinea pigs in this DEI experiment

Title: Re: Get Race Quotas Out Of The Cockpit Before We Literally Crash And Burn
Post by: sneakypete on February 06, 2024, 11:24:50 pm
The Feral Gooberment are the ones  responsible for this because THEY are the ones that dictate what the rules and regulations will be.

I can't even begin to imagine  how high their insurance rates are going to climb,of if they will even be able to buy insurance.

Then again,thing might be a cog in the feral gooberment master plan to  keep  us all home where they can watch  us  better. Hard to control people that  keep moving around at will.
Title: Re: Get Race Quotas Out Of The Cockpit Before We Literally Crash And Burn
Post by: mountaineer on February 07, 2024, 09:09:11 pm
Matt Walsh
@MattWalshBlog
BREAKING: I've obtained internal footage of senior officials at the FAA's Flight Program Operations division — which is responsible for all aspects of aircraft operations — workshopping a plan to reduce the number of white males in aviation. 🧵
2:54 PM · Feb 7, 2024

Thread follows: https://twitter.com/MattWalshBlog/status/1755319180306346029
Title: Re: Get Race Quotas Out Of The Cockpit Before We Literally Crash And Burn
Post by: Fishrrman on February 07, 2024, 11:36:00 pm
"The footage begins with FAA acting deputy chief operating officer Angela McCullough saying more workers need to go from "ramp to cockpit," meaning she wants to see more baggage handlers become airline pilots."

"Idiocracy" (the film) comes to the skies...
Title: Re: Get Race Quotas Out Of The Cockpit Before We Literally Crash And Burn
Post by: LMAO on February 07, 2024, 11:39:21 pm
Matt Walsh
@MattWalshBlog
BREAKING: I've obtained internal footage of senior officials at the FAA's Flight Program Operations division — which is responsible for all aspects of aircraft operations — workshopping a plan to reduce the number of white males in aviation. 🧵
2:54 PM · Feb 7, 2024

Thread follows: https://twitter.com/MattWalshBlog/status/1755319180306346029


From the link you posted…

2/ The footage begins with FAA acting deputy chief operating officer Angela McCullough saying more workers need to go from "ramp to cockpit," meaning she wants to see more baggage handlers become airline pilots.

Sounds like the FAA acting deputy chief operating officer is a DEI hire herself

Title: Re: Get Race Quotas Out Of The Cockpit Before We Literally Crash And Burn
Post by: mountaineer on February 07, 2024, 11:44:13 pm
She seems to believe a baggage handler or the guy with the flashlights signalling the plane into the gate is ready to sit in the pilot's seat. It's all just airplanes, right?
Title: Re: Get Race Quotas Out Of The Cockpit Before We Literally Crash And Burn
Post by: LMAO on February 07, 2024, 11:44:50 pm
Current job listing for an air traffic controller on the FAA's website is open to people with disabilities including psychiatric & intellectual delays.

Doesn't it make you feel safe knowing your air traffic controller can have an intellectual disability or have a seizure while directing your flight?
https://twitter.com/libsoftiktok/status/1754937349706752079

Maybe my autistic son Tommy can become a pilot
Title: Re: Get Race Quotas Out Of The Cockpit Before We Literally Crash And Burn
Post by: LMAO on February 07, 2024, 11:45:53 pm
She seems to believe a baggage handler or the guy with the flashlights signalling the plane into the gate is read to sit in the pilot's seat. It's all just airplanes, right?

Whether it’s racial quotas for airlines or racial quotas in medicine, that is a fast track to mediocrity
Title: Re: Get Race Quotas Out Of The Cockpit Before We Literally Crash And Burn
Post by: mountaineer on February 07, 2024, 11:47:02 pm
Whether it’s racial quotas for airlines or racial quotas in medicine, that is a fast track to mediocrity
... and to catastrophe.
Title: Re: Get Race Quotas Out Of The Cockpit Before We Literally Crash And Burn
Post by: LMAO on February 07, 2024, 11:50:22 pm
... and to catastrophe.

Yeah

But it’s only catastrophic to people like you and I and we’re sacrificial lambs
Title: Re: Get Race Quotas Out Of The Cockpit Before We Literally Crash And Burn
Post by: LMAO on February 07, 2024, 11:59:45 pm
BTW

This DEI crap and racial quotas and such other nonsense is why Derek Chavin was never going to get acquitted, evidence be damned

All this stuff came about around since George Floyd got himself killed. There was too much politically invested to not find those cops guilty

Derek Chavin needs to come to peace with the idea that he’s going to die in prison
Title: Re: Get Race Quotas Out Of The Cockpit Before We Literally Crash And Burn
Post by: LMAO on February 08, 2024, 01:21:23 am
I will admit that it’s stories like this that really test my no to voting for Donald Trump

I can’t say what Trump would do on this DEI crap. But I know what Biden has done and will continue to do.

This is very dangerous and jeopardizes the safety of the American people.