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Title: LIVE BREAKING...8 People Dead, Including Gunman, in Buffalo Supermarket Mass Shooting: Sources
Post by: Gefn on May 14, 2022, 08:08:20 pm
Eight people are dead after a gunman entered a supermarket in Buffalo, New York, and opened fire Saturday afternoon, law enforcement source said.

The shooter entered the Tops Friendly Market on Jefferson Avenue shortly after 2:30 p.m. and shot at least eight people, those sources said. Seven of the people died, including the gunman, they said.

An eighth person injured in the gunfire was said to be in critical condition.

Sources said the suspected gunman entered the store carrying a rifle and wore military-style gear or a type of body armor.


https://www.nbcnewyork.com/news/local/crime-and-courts/public-advised-to-avoid-buffalo-supermarket-for-active-shooting-event/3687999/

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Title: Re: 8 People Dead, Including Gunman, in Buffalo Supermarket Mass Shooting: Sources
Post by: mystery-ak on May 14, 2022, 08:35:21 pm
May 14, 2022 3:43pm EDT
New York police respond to 'mass shooting' at Buffalo grocery store, 'multiple people' shot
Multiple people have been shot, according to Buffalo police

By Adam Sabes | Fox News

    Police in New York State said in a tweet on Saturday afternoon that it was on the scene of a "mass shooting" at a grocery store in Buffalo.

Multiple people have been struck by gunfire and the suspect is in custody, according to the police department. The shooting happened at Tops Friendly Markets on Jefferson Avenue in Buffalo.

"BPD on scene of a mass shooting at the Tops in the 1200 block of Jefferson Avenue. Police say multiple people have been struck by gunfire. The shooter is in custody. Motorists and residents are urged to avoid the area," the police department tweeted.

https://twitter.com/BPDAlerts/status/1525558280981991428

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https://www.foxnews.com/us/new-york-police-mass-shooting-buffalo-grocery-store
Title: Re: 8 People Dead, Including Gunman, in Buffalo Supermarket Mass Shooting: Sources
Post by: mystery-ak on May 14, 2022, 08:40:40 pm
https://twitter.com/greta/status/1525576455278759937
Title: Re: 8 People Dead, Including Gunman, in Buffalo Supermarket Mass Shooting: Sources
Post by: mystery-ak on May 14, 2022, 08:41:42 pm
https://twitter.com/BNONews/status/1525576449268363267
Title: Re: 8 People Dead, Including Gunman, in Buffalo Supermarket Mass Shooting: Sources
Post by: mystery-ak on May 14, 2022, 08:44:15 pm
https://twitter.com/JonLemire/status/1525577290565963776
Title: Re: 8 People Dead, Including Gunman, in Buffalo Supermarket Mass Shooting: Sources
Post by: mystery-ak on May 14, 2022, 08:50:46 pm
Here we go...fox reporting this happened in a black neighborhood and the shooter was live streaming on the internet with his manifesto...he is a know white supremacist... 888mouth
Title: Re: 8 People Dead, Including Gunman, in Buffalo Supermarket Mass Shooting: Sources
Post by: mountaineer on May 14, 2022, 08:52:42 pm
he is a know white supremacist
That's what they say about all of us, so  :shrug:
Title: Re: LIVE BREAKING...8 People Dead, Including Gunman, in Buffalo Supermarket Mass Shooting: Sources
Post by: mystery-ak on May 14, 2022, 08:56:20 pm
https://twitter.com/CarmineSabia/status/1525580638543351808
Title: Re: 8 People Dead, Including Gunman, in Buffalo Supermarket Mass Shooting: Sources
Post by: Sighlass on May 14, 2022, 08:56:57 pm
Well they are saying he was white and left a long manifesto, IOWs, this will make headlines on CNN.
Title: Re: LIVE BREAKING...8 People Dead, Including Gunman, in Buffalo Supermarket Mass Shooting: Sources
Post by: mystery-ak on May 14, 2022, 08:57:17 pm
https://twitter.com/MarinaMedvin/status/1525563916138565632
Title: Re: LIVE BREAKING...8 People Dead, Including Gunman, in Buffalo Supermarket Mass Shooting: Sources
Post by: mystery-ak on May 14, 2022, 08:58:06 pm
https://twitter.com/breakingryan1/status/1525553714081280001
Title: Re: LIVE BREAKING...8 People Dead, Including Gunman, in Buffalo Supermarket Mass Shooting: Sources
Post by: mystery-ak on May 14, 2022, 09:02:33 pm
https://twitter.com/NOLAnews/status/1525581763782787080
Title: Re: LIVE BREAKING...8 People Dead, Including Gunman, in Buffalo Supermarket Mass Shooting: Sources
Post by: mystery-ak on May 14, 2022, 09:12:21 pm
Free Speech
@FreeSpeech7770
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So the sick bastard in Buffalo was also an anti-semite
Title: Re: LIVE BREAKING...8 People Dead, Including Gunman, in Buffalo Supermarket Mass Shooting: Sources
Post by: rustynail on May 14, 2022, 09:17:11 pm
MK-ULTRA
Title: Re: LIVE BREAKING...8 People Dead, Including Gunman, in Buffalo Supermarket Mass Shooting: Sources
Post by: Gefn on May 14, 2022, 09:54:28 pm
https://www.the-sun.com/news/5054344/mass-shooting-buffalo-tops-friendly-markets/


https://buffalonews.com/news/local/ten-killed-in-mass-shooting-at-jefferson-avenue-supermarket-shooter-in-custody/article_6e8132fa-d3b7-11ec-a714-2b3fbeaf848c.html


https://apnews.com/article/buffalo-supermarket-shooting-442c6d97a073f39f99d006dbba40f64b
Title: Re: LIVE BREAKING...8 People Dead, Including Gunman, in Buffalo Supermarket Mass Shooting: Sources
Post by: mystery-ak on May 14, 2022, 09:59:44 pm
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FSwBuAGXEAEh1ue?format=png&name=small)
Title: Re: LIVE BREAKING...8 People Dead, Including Gunman, in Buffalo Supermarket Mass Shooting: Sources
Post by: mystery-ak on May 14, 2022, 10:02:30 pm
https://twitter.com/madisonlcarter/status/1525592753878487042
Title: Re: LIVE BREAKING...8 People Dead, Including Gunman, in Buffalo Supermarket Mass Shooting: Sources
Post by: mystery-ak on May 14, 2022, 10:05:32 pm
https://twitter.com/MacFarlaneNews/status/1525597667031646208
Title: Re: LIVE BREAKING...8 People Dead, Including Gunman, in Buffalo Supermarket Mass Shooting: Sources
Post by: mystery-ak on May 14, 2022, 10:07:56 pm
Maki Becker
@makibecker
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FBI special agent In Charge Stephen Belongia said the mass shooting is being investigated  as a racially motivated hate crime
Title: Re: LIVE BREAKING...8 People Dead, Including Gunman, in Buffalo Supermarket Mass Shooting: Sources
Post by: mystery-ak on May 14, 2022, 10:11:56 pm
David Begnaud
@DavidBegnaud
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ALERT: US attorney says FBI is investigating Buffalo, NY grocery store shooting as both a hate crime & racially motivated violent extremism. A law enforcement source told CBS News the suspect, who was arrested, is a white man who was allegedly yelling racial slurs. 10 ppl dead.


I might add that the shooter is 18yo
Title: Re: LIVE BREAKING...8 People Dead, Including Gunman, in Buffalo Supermarket Mass Shooting: Sources
Post by: mystery-ak on May 14, 2022, 10:13:26 pm
https://twitter.com/johncardillo/status/1525599252919066624
Title: Re: LIVE BREAKING...8 People Dead, Including Gunman, in Buffalo Supermarket Mass Shooting: Sources
Post by: mystery-ak on May 14, 2022, 10:14:17 pm
Carmine Sabia
@CarmineSabia
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Of the Buffalo victims 12 were black and 2 white.
Title: Re: LIVE BREAKING...8 People Dead, Including Gunman, in Buffalo Supermarket Mass Shooting: Sources
Post by: mystery-ak on May 14, 2022, 10:15:46 pm
https://twitter.com/MacFarlaneNews/status/1525599963396325376
Title: Re: LIVE BREAKING...8 People Dead, Including Gunman, in Buffalo Supermarket Mass Shooting: Sources
Post by: Gefn on May 14, 2022, 10:30:36 pm
16 min ago
Buffalo mayor says alleged shooter traveled "hours from outside" the city to attack supermarket



[quote

Buffalo Mayor Byron Brown said the alleged shooter traveled "hours" from outside the city to carry out the shooting at a Tops supermarket.

"The shooter was not from this community. In fact, the shooter traveled hours from outside this community to perpetrate this crime on the people of Buffalo," he said.

He said it's a day of "great pain" for the city.

[/quote]

https://www.cnn.com/us/live-news/buffalo-supermarket-mass-shooting/index.html
Title: Re: LIVE BREAKING...8 People Dead, Including Gunman, in Buffalo Supermarket Mass Shooting: Sources
Post by: Gefn on May 14, 2022, 10:32:24 pm
12 min ago
Biden briefed on Buffalo mass shooting


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President Biden has been briefed on the deadly mass shooting at the Tops grocery store in Buffalo, New York, by Homeland Security Advisor Elizabeth Sherwood-Randall, the White House said Saturday.

“The President has been briefed by his Homeland Security Advisor on the horrific shooting in Buffalo, NY this afternoon,” White House press secretary Karine Jean-Pierre said in a statement.



https://www.cnn.com/us/live-news/buffalo-supermarket-mass-shooting/index.html
Title: Re: LIVE BREAKING...8 People Dead, Including Gunman, in Buffalo Supermarket Mass Shooting: Sources
Post by: mountaineer on May 14, 2022, 10:41:08 pm
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the shooter is a known white supremacist and drove into town from Broome county targeting this grocery store knowing it was in a predominately Black area of town.
Stupid idiot!  :#@$%:
Title: Re: LIVE BREAKING...8 People Dead, Including Gunman, in Buffalo Supermarket Mass Shooting: Sources
Post by: DCPatriot on May 14, 2022, 10:53:03 pm
Tops and Wegman's rule the Buffalo New York grocery choices...among dozens of mom and pop specialty stores (Italian, Polish, German).

Jefferson Avenue is a MINORITY Black area and has been for a half century.
Title: Re: LIVE BREAKING...8 People Dead, Including Gunman, in Buffalo Supermarket Mass Shooting: Sources
Post by: Gefn on May 14, 2022, 10:58:54 pm
I adore Wegmans.
Title: Re: LIVE BREAKING...8 People Dead, Including Gunman, in Buffalo Supermarket Mass Shooting: Sources
Post by: mountaineer on May 14, 2022, 11:04:10 pm
Cernovich
@Cernovich
The manifesto of the terrorist who killed people today contains the following:
- He did a chart of Jewish people and included me under “troll Jew.”
- Rejection of Christianity.
- An admission that he is is “authoritarian left wing.”
- Hybrid Nazi and “green nationalism.”
6:42 PM · May 14, 2022

Cernovich
@Cernovich
Today’s terrorist attack will be politicized and lied about. The man was under demonic influence. Completely incoherent “ideology.” Hybrid of Nazism with green new deal leanings. He called himself a left wing “green nationalist.”
That’s why you can’t post the document.
6:50 PM · May 14, 2022
Title: Re: LIVE BREAKING...8 People Dead, Including Gunman, in Buffalo Supermarket Mass Shooting: Sources
Post by: mountaineer on May 14, 2022, 11:19:53 pm
In his manifesto the Buffalo mass shooter says he falls on the “mild-moderate authoritarian left” category.
https://twitter.com/stillgray/status/1525608850216615936
Title: Re: LIVE BREAKING...8 People Dead, Including Gunman, in Buffalo Supermarket Mass Shooting: Sources
Post by: mountaineer on May 14, 2022, 11:27:50 pm
Rosie's Fake Account
@DarnelSugarfoo
On the left, the cover of the Buffalo shooter's manifesto.
On the right, the logo of the Azov battalion.
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FSv748xUYAAgILW?format=jpg&name=240x240) (https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FSv77TEUsAAgxt5?format=png&name=small)
5:33 PM · May 14, 2022

Title: Re: LIVE BREAKING...8 People Dead, Including Gunman, in Buffalo Supermarket Mass Shooting: Sources
Post by: Gefn on May 14, 2022, 11:54:48 pm
https://heavy.com/news/payton-gendron/
Title: Re: LIVE BREAKING...8 People Dead, Including Gunman, in Buffalo Supermarket Mass Shooting: Sources
Post by: Smokin Joe on May 15, 2022, 12:23:19 am
Prayers up for the victims, their families, friends, and loved ones.

This stuff is just plain wrong. That guy isn't wired right.
Title: Re: LIVE BREAKING...8 People Dead, Including Gunman, in Buffalo Supermarket Mass Shooting: Sources
Post by: verga on May 15, 2022, 11:57:22 am
I am heartsick over this. Some reports claim he is a left leaning "Green Nationalist" , but he is being labeled a Trump supporting white supremist.
Title: Re: LIVE BREAKING...8 People Dead, Including Gunman, in Buffalo Supermarket Mass Shooting: Sources
Post by: DCPatriot on May 15, 2022, 12:13:54 pm
I am heartsick over this. Some reports claim he is a left leaning "Green Nationalist" , but he is being labeled a Trump supporting white supremist.

So damned what?     :shrug:   That can be disproven in 30 seconds. 

It's only May and this crap is  beginning.  This Summer is going to be a hoot in the good old USA!
Title: Re: LIVE BREAKING...8 People Dead, Including Gunman, in Buffalo Supermarket Mass Shooting: Sources
Post by: DCPatriot on May 15, 2022, 12:18:02 pm
I adore Wegmans.

Me too! 

Couldn't believe it when they finally arrived in the Washington, D.C. region.  But that said, they still don't have the broad selections found in the Western New York area.

Wegman's is based out of Rochester, New York, which is about a 90 minute drive East of Buffalo.
Title: Re: LIVE BREAKING...8 People Dead, Including Gunman, in Buffalo Supermarket Mass Shooting: Sources
Post by: mountaineer on May 15, 2022, 12:58:15 pm
Elliptic curves over $\Q$ "Anon"
@Cyber_Gnostic
12h
The Buffalo Shooters manifesto was literally copy pasted from the Christ Church shooting.
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FSwfyC0WYAEDxCY?format=jpg&name=large)
8:09 PM · May 14, 2022·
Title: Re: LIVE BREAKING...8 People Dead, Including Gunman, in Buffalo Supermarket Mass Shooting: Sources
Post by: mystery-ak on May 15, 2022, 01:09:20 pm
‘Extreme’ Buffalo gunman threatened HS graduation shooting, referred for ‘mental health eval’
May 15, 2022 | Vivek Saxena

The self-identified white supremacist accused of committing a deadly mass shooting Saturday in Buffalo, New York was reportedly investigated last June after he threatened to shoot up his graduation ceremony.

“A school official reported that this very troubled young man had made statements indicating that he wanted to do a shooting, either at a graduation ceremony, or sometime after,” an unnamed government official told The Buffalo News.

New York State Police subsequently investigated the matter and wound up referring the alleged Buffalo shooter, Payton S. Gendron, “for a mental health evaluation and counseling,” according to The News.


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https://www.bizpacreview.com/2022/05/15/extreme-buffalo-gunman-threatened-hs-graduation-shooting-referred-for-mental-health-eval-1238023/
Title: Re: LIVE BREAKING...8 People Dead, Including Gunman, in Buffalo Supermarket Mass Shooting: Sources
Post by: mystery-ak on May 15, 2022, 01:30:50 pm
Buffalo white supremacist, 18, threatened a school graduation shooting last year and was given psychiatric treatment - but still legally bought three guns: Classmates reveal he acted strangely, wore hazmat suit to school for a week and scared them with 'Hitler-esque' political views

     Payton Gendron, 18, was investigated by the New York State Police for threating to shoot his classmates during graduation in June 2021
     Police suggested mental health evaluation and counseling
     Classmates recall his 'Hitler-esque' political leanings during a political science exercise
    Gendron wore a hazmat suit to school for the first week of his senior year to protect against Covid
     In his 180-page manifesto refers to the paranoid white supremacist theory of 'white replacement'
    He looks up to other racially-motivated spree killers like Dylan Roof who killed nine people in a black church in South Carolina
    At least 10 people were killed and three were reported injured after a gunman opened fire inside a Buffalo supermarket on Saturday while livestreaming
    Gendron had the n-word scrawled on his rifle, targeted a store in a predominantly black area and shot 11 black people, police said
    Erie County District Attorney John Flynn charged him with one count of first degree murder
    The suspect, filmed wearing a military uniform, has been taken into custody by the Buffalo Police Department and will be charged with multiple counts of first-degree murder as early as Saturday night
    The suspect was reportedly wearing body armor as witnesses said they saw the man wearing a black helmet and carrying a rifle into the store
    Ex-Buffalo cop Aaron Salter Jr, who was working at the market as a security guard, tried to stop the gunman but was fatally shot himself
    86-year-old Ruth Whitfield, the mother of the former Buffalo fire commissioner, was also gunned down
    New York Gov. Kathy Hochul, a Buffalo native, said the state is providing assistance to the Buffalo Police Department
    N-word could be seen written on the front sight of gunman's automatic rifle
    President Biden says 'hate must have no safe harbor'

By Janon Fisher For Dailymail.Com

Published: 01:49 EDT, 15 May 2022 | Updated: 07:16 EDT, 15 May 2022

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https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10817615/Buffalo-white-supremacist-shot-dead-ten-threatened-shoot-classmate-graduation.html
Title: Re: LIVE BREAKING...8 People Dead, Including Gunman, in Buffalo Supermarket Mass Shooting: Sources
Post by: Idiot on May 15, 2022, 01:56:45 pm
I'm sorry...but the police should have just taken him out.  It would have saved years of litigation.
Title: Re: LIVE BREAKING...8 People Dead, Including Gunman, in Buffalo Supermarket Mass Shooting: Sources
Post by: mystery-ak on May 15, 2022, 02:26:58 pm
Report: Gun Used in Buffalo Grocery Attack Was Acquired Legally

The gun used to kill innocents in Saturday’s attack on Buffalo’s Tops Friendly Market was acquired legally.
AWR Hawkins15 May 2022, 6:38 AM PDT

The gun used to kill innocents in Saturday’s attack on Buffalo’s Tops Friendly Market was acquired legally.

The UK Independent reports on Sunday morning the New York Gov. Kathy Hochul (D) announced the gun was acquired legally.

ABC 7 indicated the attacker used a rifle which was purchased at a store in Broome County, New York.

USA Today observed that after pointing out the legal acquisition of the gun, Hochul noted it was illegally modified via ammunition magazines holding more than ten rounds.

Hochul indicated law enforcement agencies were trying to determine where the gunman had acquired the magazines, as magazines holding more than ten rounds are illegal in New York.

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https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2022/05/15/report-gun-used-in-buffalo-grocery-attack-was-acquired-legally/
Title: Re: LIVE BREAKING...8 People Dead, Including Gunman, in Buffalo Supermarket Mass Shooting: Sources
Post by: Gefn on May 15, 2022, 02:48:06 pm
Me too! 

Couldn't believe it when they finally arrived in the Washington, D.C. region.  But that said, they still don't have the broad selections found in the Western New York area.

Wegman's is based out of Rochester, New York, which is about a 90 minute drive East of Buffalo.

@DCPatriot

They had incredible salad bars pre Covid. If you’re on the East Coast, and you get an opportunity to see one, go inside!
Title: Re: LIVE BREAKING...8 People Dead, Including Gunman, in Buffalo Supermarket Mass Shooting: Sources
Post by: mountaineer on May 15, 2022, 02:49:04 pm
I'm sorry...but the police should have just taken him out.  It would have saved years of litigation.
Didn't a security guard shoot, but the kid's body armor protected him? I thought I read that.
Title: Re: LIVE BREAKING...8 People Dead, Including Gunman, in Buffalo Supermarket Mass Shooting: Sources
Post by: catfish1957 on May 15, 2022, 02:50:27 pm
MSM blaring at a 100 decibels this morning of a white nationalist hate crime.  While these POS racist attacks were inert events caused by inanimate objects like cars and stray bullets.

(https://external-content.duckduckgo.com/iu/?u=https%3A%2F%2Ftse3.mm.bing.net%2Fth%3Fid%3DOIP.thKYycqoRmzJcs6DpoOM6QHaLH%26pid%3DApi&f=1)

(https://localnews8.b-cdn.net/2022/05/Frank-Robert-James-suspect-in-the-April-12th-Brooklyn-Subway-shooting_NYPD.jpg)

Until I hear some equity in reporting these events, the MSM can stick it up their ass. My give a shit meter has not nudged.

Title: Re: LIVE BREAKING...8 People Dead, Including Gunman, in Buffalo Supermarket Mass Shooting: Sources
Post by: mystery-ak on May 15, 2022, 03:30:28 pm
 Hochul says Buffalo gunman ‘is not gonna see the light of day again’
by Mychael Schnell - 05/15/22 11:18 AM ET

New York Gov. Kathy Hochul (D) on Sunday said the alleged gunman who fatally shot 10 people in Buffalo, N.Y. one day earlier “is not going to see the light of day again.”

“This individual is not gonna see the light of day again, you know, whether it’s under federal prosecution or state under our domestic terrorism laws or just murder one. This person murdered 10 innocent victims in our community just yesterday,” Hochul told moderator Margaret Brennan on CBS’s “Face the Nation.”

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https://thehill.com/news/3488975-hochul-says-buffalo-gunman-is-not-gonna-see-the-light-of-day-again/
Title: Re: 8 People Dead, Including Gunman, in Buffalo Supermarket Mass Shooting: Sources
Post by: GtHawk on May 15, 2022, 03:45:12 pm
https://twitter.com/JonLemire/status/1525577290565963776
Of course it was a hate crime, how asinine! When is going out and murdering people an act of love?
Title: Re: LIVE BREAKING...8 People Dead, Including Gunman, in Buffalo Supermarket Mass Shooting: Sources
Post by: catfish1957 on May 15, 2022, 03:48:10 pm
Hochul says Buffalo gunman ‘is not gonna see the light of day again’
by Mychael Schnell - 05/15/22 11:18 AM ET

New York Gov. Kathy Hochul (D) on Sunday said the alleged gunman who fatally shot 10 people in Buffalo, N.Y. one day earlier “is not going to see the light of day again.”

This individual is not gonna see the light of day again,Tyou know, whether it’s under federal prosecution or state under our domestic terrorism laws or just murder one. This person murdered 10 innocent victims in our community just yesterday,” Hochul told moderator Margaret Brennan on CBS’s “Face the Nation.”

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https://thehill.com/news/3488975-hochul-says-buffalo-gunman-is-not-gonna-see-the-light-of-day-again/

Did the stupid Guv just give the perp a legal reason for not being provided due process?
Title: Re: LIVE BREAKING...8 People Dead, Including Gunman, in Buffalo Supermarket Mass Shooting: Sources
Post by: Smokin Joe on May 15, 2022, 03:56:32 pm
Did the stupid Guv just give the perp a legal reason for not being provided due process?
They have to use the word alleged in the press. it's how they roll, prior to a conviction--but when the guy livestreams his crime, is caught in the act, has a bullet from the guard's gun stuck in his gear (body armor), there really isn't a huge question if he was the perp.

At this point, manifesto and all, a trial is a formality, and that will likely not be enough of a technicality to free him. In this case, he was busted for a reason, on site, and I would bet there is in store video of the whole thing.
Title: Re: LIVE BREAKING...8 People Dead, Including Gunman, in Buffalo Supermarket Mass Shooting: Sources
Post by: Gefn on May 15, 2022, 04:58:55 pm
Live presser.


https://video.foxnews.com/v/6306201514112#sp=show-clips
Title: Re: LIVE BREAKING...8 People Dead, Including Gunman, in Buffalo Supermarket Mass Shooting: Sources
Post by: Fishrrman on May 15, 2022, 08:12:15 pm
The New York "Safe Act" outlawed the sale of standard-design AR-15 rifles in 2013.

I believe the Safe Act prohibits the sale of used AR-15's (at least through licensed gun dealers) as well.

I'm wondering how this kid bought one (more recently) "legally"?

A friend from NY said there was some kind of "modified design" that might still be considered "sellable" -- but it had the pistol-style grip removed completely, I think there were modifications to how the magazine attached, etc.

BTW, you can't buy an AR-15 in Connecticut, either.
You can't even buy the S&W MP15/22 -- the .22 version of the AR-style rifle.
Title: Re: LIVE BREAKING...8 People Dead, Including Gunman, in Buffalo Supermarket Mass Shooting: Sources
Post by: Gefn on May 15, 2022, 08:32:09 pm
Accused Buffalo shooter named NJ’s Lakewood, Toms River in anti-Semitic manifesto


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The man accused of killing ten people in a mass shooting at a Buffalo, NY supermarket called Hasidic Jews "deplorable" and referenced New Jersey communities with growing Jewish populations in a 180-page manifesto officials said he posted online.

Payton Gendron, 18, appeared in court Saturday hours after the shooting at Tops Friendly Market. He was arranged on first-degree murder charges and ordered detained without bail.

Gendron's purported manifesto was published Thursday evening, NBC News reported. The Associated Press reported that federal law enforcement is still investigating to confirm its authenticity.

The Lakewood Scoop first reported that the diatribe complained of "Hasidic activities" in Lakewood and Toms River. The neighboring towns in Ocean County have rapidly growing Hasidic Jewish populations.



https://nj1015.com/accused-buffalo-shooter-named-njs-lakewood-toms-river-in-anti-semitic-manifesto/
Title: Re: LIVE BREAKING...8 People Dead, Including Gunman, in Buffalo Supermarket Mass Shooting: Sources
Post by: Kamaji on May 16, 2022, 11:39:02 am
So, this guy apparently was a loner who became radicalized online during the early days of the pandemic - source:  https://nypost.com/2022/05/15/alleged-buffalo-shooter-allegedly-wrote-waukesha-vics-name-on-gun/

So, that means that the FBI had 2 years - two years! - to track this guy and get the measure of his radicalization.  But instead, they spent the last two years doing stupid shit, like setting up people for a fake kidnapping attempt on the Mich. governor and classifying upset parents as domestic terrorists.  All while a real domestic terrorist was busy getting his groove on under their very noses.

:facepalm2:
Title: Re: LIVE BREAKING...8 People Dead, Including Gunman, in Buffalo Supermarket Mass Shooting: Sources
Post by: mountaineer on May 16, 2022, 12:24:26 pm
Biden rushing to Buffalo, but couldn't be bothered with Waukesha victims of race hatred.
Title: Re: 8 People Dead, Including Gunman, in Buffalo Supermarket Mass Shooting: Sources
Post by: Right_in_Virginia on May 16, 2022, 01:19:45 pm
Here we go...fox reporting this happened in a black neighborhood and the shooter was live streaming on the internet with his manifesto...he is a know white supremacist... 888mouth

Liz Cheney
@Liz_Cheney

The House GOP leadership has enabled white nationalism, white supremacy, and anti-semitism. History has taught us that what begins with words ends in far worse. @GOP leaders must renounce and reject these views and those who hold them.

7:14 AM · May 16, 2022·Twitter for iPhone

@mystery-ak


Title: Re: LIVE BREAKING...8 People Dead, Including Gunman, in Buffalo Supermarket Mass Shooting: Sources
Post by: verga on May 16, 2022, 01:22:44 pm
Okay I will go first. I hereby renounce Liz Cheney and anything she has said in the past or will say in the future.
Title: Re: LIVE BREAKING...8 People Dead, Including Gunman, in Buffalo Supermarket Mass Shooting: Sources
Post by: mountaineer on May 16, 2022, 01:25:13 pm
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The House GOP leadership has enabled white nationalism, white supremacy, and anti-semitism.
This idiot kid in Buffalo probably couldn't name a single member of Congress, let alone the ones who allegedly enabled him to hate. Cheney is pathetic.
Title: Re: LIVE BREAKING...8 People Dead, Including Gunman, in Buffalo Supermarket Mass Shooting: Sources
Post by: Kamaji on May 16, 2022, 01:25:17 pm
Okay I will go first. I hereby renounce Liz Cheney and anything she has said in the past or will say in the future.

:thumbsup:
Title: Re: 8 People Dead, Including Gunman, in Buffalo Supermarket Mass Shooting: Sources
Post by: Right_in_Virginia on May 16, 2022, 01:31:55 pm
Liz Cheney
@Liz_Cheney

The House GOP leadership has enabled white nationalism, white supremacy, and anti-semitism. History has taught us that what begins with words ends in far worse. @GOP leaders must renounce and reject these views and those who hold them.

7:14 AM · May 16, 2022·Twitter for iPhone

Daddy should tell his princess that vindictive is not a good look.
Title: Re: LIVE BREAKING...8 People Dead, Including Gunman, in Buffalo Supermarket Mass Shooting: Sources
Post by: mountaineer on May 16, 2022, 01:41:58 pm
Jack Posobiec 🇺🇸
@JackPosobiec
There was a guy shooting people in DC with a sniper setup, while livesteaming. This took place last month in our nation's capital. It has been completely memory-holed. NYC subway and Waukesha parade too.
11:59 PM · May 14, 2022·


But Biden and nurse Jill are rushing to Buffalo.
Title: Re: LIVE BREAKING...8 People Dead, Including Gunman, in Buffalo Supermarket Mass Shooting: Sources
Post by: jmyrlefuller on May 17, 2022, 11:45:31 am
Oh, joy.

Looks like the shooter might not be the only one with blood on his hands. It appears that lockdowns literally drove him insane.

https://nypost.com/2022/05/16/buffalo-shooting-suspects-kin-blame-covid-19-for-slaughter/
Title: Re: LIVE BREAKING...8 People Dead, Including Gunman, in Buffalo Supermarket Mass Shooting: Sources
Post by: Fishrrman on May 17, 2022, 07:05:39 pm
Just a pic:
(looks like it takes all kinds, but it takes more of some kinds than of others)
(https://media.patriots.win/post/ZEexCnqvla4r.jpeg)
Title: Re: LIVE BREAKING...8 People Dead, Including Gunman, in Buffalo Supermarket Mass Shooting: Sources
Post by: mountaineer on May 17, 2022, 11:27:38 pm
Twisted diary of alleged Buffalo shooter Payton Gendron reveals his online radicalization
By Gabrielle Fonrouge   
May 17, 2022 7:12pm
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The avowed white supremacist who killed 10 people at a Buffalo supermarket first became radicalized during the early days of the COVID-19 pandemic by scouring extremist internet messaging boards, according to his twisted online diary.

Payton Gendron, 18, spent months reflecting on his plans to conduct a mass shooting in the digital journal and said his exposure to 4Chan, an online message board known as a hotbed for extremism, kept him motivated to stick to his plans.

“My current beliefs started when I first started to use 4chan a few months after covid started,” Gendron wrote in the diary, which was posted on the Discord app and was taken down after the attack.

“Every time I think maybe I shouldn’t commit to an attack I spend 5 min [on] /pol/, then my motivation returns,” he wrote in another entry, referencing the message board’s politics section, which is known for racist and anti-semitic content.  ...

Many of the entries express doubt and fear over the attack and how his only options were to either go through with it, or commit suicide.

“I’m not proud to kill these lads, in fact I’m desperately looking for a sign or evidence proving that I shouldn’t,” he wrote of his plans to shoot and kill black people in a crazed effort to “save” the white race.  ...
NY Post (https://nypost.com/2022/05/17/twisted-diary-of-alleged-buffalo-shooter-payton-gendron-reveals-his-online-radicalization/)
Title: Re: LIVE BREAKING...8 People Dead, Including Gunman, in Buffalo Supermarket Mass Shooting: Sources
Post by: Kamaji on May 18, 2022, 11:18:35 am
Twisted diary of alleged Buffalo shooter Payton Gendron reveals his online radicalization
By Gabrielle Fonrouge   
May 17, 2022 7:12pmNY Post (https://nypost.com/2022/05/17/twisted-diary-of-alleged-buffalo-shooter-payton-gendron-reveals-his-online-radicalization/)


He was one twisted soul.  However, he put all of this up online, so he wasn't exactly hiding who he was and who he was becoming.
Title: Re: LIVE BREAKING...8 People Dead, Including Gunman, in Buffalo Supermarket Mass Shooting: Sources
Post by: Kamaji on May 18, 2022, 11:48:20 am
Alleged Buffalo shooter Payton Gendron once beheaded a cat, journal entry shows

By Allie Griffin
May 17, 2022

The self-professed white supremacist accused of fatally shooting 10 black people at a Buffalo supermarket on Saturday once stabbed and beheaded a feral cat, according to a grisly online journal entry.

Payton Gendron, 18, detailed the vicious animal attack in a March 25 entry posted on the Discord app, and justified the sick act by saying the stray feline had been attacking his family cat Paige.

Gendron wrote that he repeatedly stabbed the grey tabby cat and bashed its head before grabbing a hatchet and hacking the animal’s head off.

“When I came home at ~10:30 I was eating pizza bites when I hard my cat Paige scream from the garage,” Gendron wrote.

Source:  https://nypost.com/2022/05/17/alleged-buffalo-shooter-payton-gendron-once-beheaded-cat-journal-entry-shows/


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Classic signs of a psychopath.  There would have been plenty of other signs, too.
Title: Re: LIVE BREAKING...8 People Dead, Including Gunman, in Buffalo Supermarket Mass Shooting: Sources
Post by: catfish1957 on May 18, 2022, 12:01:41 pm
Alleged Buffalo shooter Payton Gendron once beheaded a cat, journal entry shows



Shooter and Fauxci have a lot more in common than not.  Mass killers and animal abusers.
Title: Re: LIVE BREAKING...8 People Dead, Including Gunman, in Buffalo Supermarket Mass Shooting: Sources
Post by: mountaineer on May 18, 2022, 02:40:09 pm
There Are Two Elephants In the Room Concerning the Buffalo Shooter
ByAdmin
Published on May 16, 2022
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There’s a lot being said about the shooting that occurred in Buffalo, New York. The underlying issue concerning all of it is the mental illness factor. ...

Firstly, and most obviously, our society does not value discussions surrounding mental illness as well as it should. ...

So here we have a boy who was clearly disturbed, doing bizarre and odd things, openly declaring his attraction to extremist ideologies, and it would appear no one lifted a finger to help him until he made a general threat. While I’m not saying that this kid deserves sympathy, I have to wonder if this could have been avoided if he had found someone willing to help him get to the bottom of his behavior.

This leads me to my second point; the people who did talk to him.

As the shooter himself testifies, he became radicalized on 4Chan after browsing /pol/, one of its politically focused forums. To be clear, 4Chan is not a site wholly dedicated to sympathetic talk about Nazism, but it definitely is there. ...
(https://redstate.com/wp-content/uploads/media/2022/05/image-730x324.png)
Republican Daily (https://republicandaily.com/2022/05/there-are-two-elephants-in-the-room-concerning-the-buffalo-shooter/)
Title: Re: LIVE BREAKING...8 People Dead, Including Gunman, in Buffalo Supermarket Mass Shooting: Sources
Post by: Kamaji on May 18, 2022, 02:48:49 pm
There Are Two Elephants In the Room Concerning the Buffalo Shooter
ByAdmin
Published on May 16, 2022Republican Daily (https://republicandaily.com/2022/05/there-are-two-elephants-in-the-room-concerning-the-buffalo-shooter/)


He appeared to be displaying a lot of the classic signs of a psychopath.
Title: Re: LIVE BREAKING...8 People Dead, Including Gunman, in Buffalo Supermarket Mass Shooting: Sources
Post by: mountaineer on May 18, 2022, 08:18:31 pm
He appeared to be displaying a lot of the classic signs of a psychopath.
Exactly, but what can be done with such people? They can't be locked up. We just wait until they kill others then say, "Yes, he had some mental health issues ... "
Title: Re: LIVE BREAKING...8 People Dead, Including Gunman, in Buffalo Supermarket Mass Shooting: Sources
Post by: Kamaji on May 18, 2022, 08:22:21 pm
Exactly, but what can be done with such people? They can't be locked up. We just wait until they kill others then say, "Yes, he had some mental health issues ... "

Depending on whether an objective evaluation can be made, they can at least be red-flagged for firearms purchases, and perhaps required to submit to some counseling.

Unfortunately, once a person becomes a full-fledged psychopath, there is not a lot of hope for "curing" them of it.

Psychopaths can be fairly consistently identified - in fact, I believe there is even research that is finding that there are organic differences in the brains of psychopaths - and I don't think a simple "just wait and see" response is adequate.  Yes, it does bring up issues with Minority Report dimensions, but the bottom line remains that psychopaths are generally a long-term danger to society.
Title: Re: LIVE BREAKING...8 People Dead, Including Gunman, in Buffalo Supermarket Mass Shooting: Sources
Post by: mountaineer on May 27, 2022, 03:14:31 pm
A "retired" federal agent regularly communicated in a chatroom with the Buffalo gunman in advance of his massacre
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The Buffalo News
@TheBuffaloNews
Authorities believe the former agent – believed to be from Texas – was one of at least six individuals who regularly communicated with accused gunman Payton Gendron in an online chat room where racist hatred was discussed, two officials said. Authorities investigating if retired federal agent knew of Buffalo mass shooting plans in advance (https://buffalonews.com/news/local/authorities-investigating-if-retired-federal-agent-knew-of-buffalo-mass-shooting-plans-in-advance/article_bd408f18-dd39-11ec-be53-df8fdd095d6f.html)
More: https://twitter.com/BoltzmannBooty/status/1530010197053296640
Title: Re: LIVE BREAKING...8 People Dead, Including Gunman, in Buffalo Supermarket Mass Shooting: Sources
Post by: Kamaji on May 27, 2022, 03:17:24 pm
A "retired" federal agent regularly communicated in a chatroom with the Buffalo gunman in advance of his massacre More: https://twitter.com/BoltzmannBooty/status/1530010197053296640



:facepalm2:
Title: Re: LIVE BREAKING...8 People Dead, Including Gunman, in Buffalo Supermarket Mass Shooting: Sources
Post by: mountaineer on May 27, 2022, 03:34:43 pm
Thread from Buffalo News
https://twitter.com/TheBuffaloNews/status/1529991567687438338
Title: Re: LIVE BREAKING...8 People Dead, Including Gunman, in Buffalo Supermarket Mass Shooting: Sources
Post by: mountaineer on May 27, 2022, 06:25:31 pm
On the topic of the FBI chatting with would-be mass murderers and terrorists and, perhaps grooming them as such, it should be noted that in 2015 Glenn Greenwald wrote about this very thing.
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February 26 2015, 7:19 a.m.
Why Does the FBI Have to Manufacture its Own Plots if Terrorism and ISIS Are Such Grave Threats?
This tactic is akin to having the DEA constantly warn of the severe threat posed by drug addiction while it simultaneously uses pushers on its payroll to deliberately get people hooked on drugs so that they can arrest the addicts they’ve created and thus justify their own warnings and budgets.
Glenn Greenwald

The FBI and major media outlets yesterday trumpeted the agency’s latest counterterrorism triumph: the arrest of three Brooklyn men, ages 19 to 30, on charges of conspiring to travel to Syria to fight for ISIS (photo of joint FBI/NYPD press conference, above). As my colleague Murtaza Hussain ably documents, “it appears that none of the three men was in any condition to travel or support the Islamic State, without help from the FBI informant.” One of the frightening terrorist villains told the FBI informant that, beyond having no money, he had encountered a significant problem in following through on the FBI’s plot: his mom had taken away his passport. Noting the bizarre and unhinged ranting of one of the suspects, Hussain noted on Twitter that this case “sounds like another victory for the FBI over the mentally ill.”

In this regard, this latest arrest appears to be quite similar to the overwhelming majority of terrorism arrests the FBI has proudly touted over the last decade. As my colleague Andrew Fishman and I wrote last month — after the FBI manipulated a 20-year-old loner who lived with his parents into allegedly agreeing to join an FBI-created plot to attack the Capitol — these cases follow a very clear pattern:
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    The known facts from this latest case seem to fit well within a now-familiar FBI pattern whereby the agency does not disrupt planned domestic terror attacks but rather creates them, then publicly praises itself for stopping its own plots. ...
Full story at The Intercept (https://theintercept.com/2015/02/26/fbi-manufacture-plots-terrorism-isis-grave-threats/)
Title: Re: LIVE BREAKING...8 People Dead, Including Gunman, in Buffalo Supermarket Mass Shooting: Sources
Post by: mountaineer on November 28, 2022, 04:34:38 pm
UPDATE
Buffalo shooter Payton Gendron pleads guilty to grocery store massacre
By Emily Crane   
November 28, 2022 10:58am

The white teenager who gunned down 10 people in a hate-fueled Buffalo supermarket massacre in a predominantly black neighborhood pleaded guilty Monday to murder and hate-motivated terrorism charges.

Payton Gendron, 19, entered the plea at the Erie County Court — just two miles from where he massacred his victims on May 14 as part of a crazed plan to take out as many black people as possible.

His plea to the string of state charges guarantees he will spend the rest of his life in prison. He still faces federal charges. ... NY Post (https://nypost.com/2022/11/28/buffalo-shooter-payton-gendron-pleads-guilty-to-grocery-store-massacre/)