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Title: Report: GOP Elites Plan to Take Down Trump With Deluge of Anti-Trump Ads After Labor Day
Post by: mystery-ak on August 31, 2015, 03:01:52 pm
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Report: GOP Elites Plan to Take Down Trump With Deluge of Anti-Trump Ads After Labor Day

Jim Hoft Aug 31st, 2015 8:54 am

The GOP establishment is very concerned with Donald Trump’s enduring appeal with conservative voters.
The party elites are reportedly planning a deluge of anti-Trump ads following the Labor Day weekend.

CNN reported:

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    It’s no secret the Republican establishment is unnerved by Donald Trump and his lead in national and key state polls.

    And now, after weeks of assuming his support would be fleeting, there is a debate about how to take aim at Trump — and just who should finance such an effort.

    CNN’s Maeve Reston noted that most GOP strategists see risks in having the attacks come from the other candidates or their directly affiliated super PACs. So, she reports, there is conversation about what other group might raise money for anti-Trump TV ads.

    “There are a lot of donors out there who see it as much too dangerous, obviously, for the candidates, or their allied super PACs, to go after Trump,” said Reston. “So they’re looking to more establishment PACs to potentially take him down in post-Labor Day ads.”
Title: Re: Report: GOP Elites Plan to Take Down Trump With Deluge of Anti-Trump Ads After Labor Day
Post by: EdinVA on August 31, 2015, 03:07:23 pm
The GOPe better be careful what they ask for, they may just get it in a form they did not plan on.
If he is destined to fade away, better let it happen rather than try to force it.
Title: Re: Report: GOP Elites Plan to Take Down Trump With Deluge of Anti-Trump Ads After Labor Day
Post by: libertybele on August 31, 2015, 06:11:37 pm
The GOPe better be careful what they ask for, they may just get it in a form they did not plan on.
If he is destined to fade away, better let it happen rather than try to force it.

After losing two presidential elections, the GOPe just doesn't seem to get it.

#1)  Trump has the money and has gotten the media coverage to come back swinging and so far has risen in the polls afterwards

#2)  Not too many believe the crap that the GOPe is spewing anyways; what the GOPe is going to try to convince people that Bush is conservative???   They were handed the majority and still haven't done a damn thing!  That is why Trump is polling as high as he is to begin with. What a bunch of freakin' dummies!
Title: Re: Report: GOP Elites Plan to Take Down Trump With Deluge of Anti-Trump Ads After Labor Day
Post by: EdinVA on August 31, 2015, 06:18:12 pm
After losing two presidential elections, the GOPe just doesn't seem to get it.

#1)  Trump has the money and has gotten the media coverage to come back swinging and so far has risen in the polls afterwards

#2)  Not too many believe the crap that the GOPe is spewing anyways; what the GOPe is going to try to convince people that Bush is conservative???   They were handed the majority and still haven't done a damn thing!  That is why Trump is polling as high as he is to begin with. What a bunch of freakin' dummies!

Exactly.
If the GOP makes an overt attempt to drive Trump out, I will follow him to whatever party he picks.
Title: Re: Report: GOP Elites Plan to Take Down Trump With Deluge of Anti-Trump Ads After Labor Day
Post by: Longiron on August 31, 2015, 06:22:00 pm
After losing two presidential elections, the GOPe just doesn't seem to get it.

#1)  Trump has the money and has gotten the media coverage to come back swinging and so far has risen in the polls afterwards

#2)  Not too many believe the crap that the GOPe is spewing anyways; what the GOPe is going to try to convince people that Bush is conservative???   They were handed the majority and still haven't done a damn thing!  That is why Trump is polling as high as he is to begin with. What a bunch of freakin' dummies!

Bring it ON from the Party of STUPID. The RINOGOP will never get it and just make TRUMP stronger. They cannot buy him and more than he winning they are scared of a 3rd party. If a 3rd party comes about the RINOGOP goes the way of the Whig party and they know it. If a DEM wins , so be it, life goes on for the RINOGOP for a while. If they were smart they would support him and at least be on the winning side for once but To many would get CRUSHED if TRUMP or any other conservative come in to power, BEWARE of the RINOGOP helping Ben Carson take on TRUMP? The plan is to elimate TRUMP through CARSON and Ben needs the money and they know it. They then will take CARSON out for BUSHIE any day of the week. BEWARE :shrug:
Title: Re: Report: GOP Elites Plan to Take Down Trump With Deluge of Anti-Trump Ads After Labor Day
Post by: Scottftlc on August 31, 2015, 06:29:39 pm
They then will take CARSON out for BUSHIE any day of the week. BEWARE :shrug:

Well, that would be the height of stupidity if that's their thinking.  They need to try it with a different candidate...Bush is the one candidate running that has absolutely no chance of winning a general election.  I suspect even Jeb sees that pretty clearly.
Title: Re: Report: GOP Elites Plan to Take Down Trump With Deluge of Anti-Trump Ads After Labor Day
Post by: libertybele on August 31, 2015, 06:34:17 pm
Bring it ON from the Party of STUPID. The RINOGOP will never get it and just make TRUMP stronger. They cannot buy him and more than he winning they are scared of a 3rd party. If a 3rd party comes about the RINOGOP goes the way of the Whig party and they know it. If a DEM wins , so be it, life goes on for the RINOGOP for a while. If they were smart they would support him and at least be on the winning side for once but To many would get CRUSHED if TRUMP or any other conservative come in to power, BEWARE of the RINOGOP helping Ben Carson take on TRUMP? The plan is to elimate TRUMP through CARSON and Ben needs the money and they know it. They then will take CARSON out for BUSHIE any day of the week. BEWARE :shrug:

So...if what you are saying is true, IF Carson can be bought then he is no better than any of the GOPe and secondly running Bush hands the oval office to the DEMS. 
Title: Re: Report: GOP Elites Plan to Take Down Trump With Deluge of Anti-Trump Ads After Labor Day
Post by: libertybele on August 31, 2015, 06:39:39 pm
It speaks volumes that the GOPe would rather concentrate on taking down a member of their own party instead of taking down a Socialist or a DEM.  Unbelievable. 
Title: Re: Report: GOP Elites Plan to Take Down Trump With Deluge of Anti-Trump Ads After Labor Day
Post by: flowers on August 31, 2015, 07:31:49 pm
Gop-elites  hate us more than anything. They might want to re-think this strategy, (yet I hope they don't) I know some people that haven't voted in YEARS. They all say they will vote for Trump. Anti-Trump ads may just piss them off more.
Title: Re: Report: GOP Elites Plan to Take Down Trump With Deluge of Anti-Trump Ads After Labor Day
Post by: truth_seeker on August 31, 2015, 08:07:47 pm
Another report from an anonymous source, says gullible Republicans and conservatives reading forums, can be expected to believe almost anything posted.

That is reportedly true, when the plot pits various elements against each other, thereby creating drama, and conflict which holds high entertainment value.

That source points to the success of Donald Trump, to reinforce the attraction of drama, conflict on the Republican side.
Title: Re: Report: GOP Elites Plan to Take Down Trump With Deluge of Anti-Trump Ads After Labor Day
Post by: Longiron on August 31, 2015, 08:45:40 pm
So...if what you are saying is true, IF Carson can be bought then he is no better than any of the GOPe and secondly running Bush hands the oval office to the DEMS.

NO. I believe Ben Carson cannot be bought but he does not have the financials or name recognition that TRUMP has at this point. Ben Carson is a great man and is brilliant in a medical capacity. However he does not have the street smarts as TRUMP or CRUZ in politics , yet. He needs more grooming to take on the sharks. If the RINOGOP can get a challenger to TRUMP their game plan will be to ride that pony as far as they can then KILL it and bring in BUSHIE or some other RINO with 10% of the vote. Nothing against Carson but more concerned about the sleaze balls at the RINOGOP and their ability to use people for their own agenda. :patriot:
Title: Re: Report: GOP Elites Plan to Take Down Trump With Deluge of Anti-Trump Ads After Labor Day
Post by: DCPatriot on August 31, 2015, 08:52:37 pm
Ben Carson may be jockeying for vice-president.

He can never be elected President next year.  He has no 'Chops' in the arena whatsoever.  He needs to be Sec of State even, rather than VP, IMO.

It's obvious that he can be an expert negotiator and diplomat.  It's obvious that as an outsider, he's patently honest.

But, IMO, he's not going to say anything cross about Donald Trump.  Not personally.  It's not Carson's style.
Title: Re: Report: GOP Elites Plan to Take Down Trump With Deluge of Anti-Trump Ads After Labor Day
Post by: bkepley on August 31, 2015, 08:55:56 pm
Another report from an anonymous source, says gullible Republicans and conservatives reading forums, can be expected to believe almost anything posted.

That is reportedly true, when the plot pits various elements against each other, thereby creating drama, and conflict which holds high entertainment value.

That source points to the success of Donald Trump, to reinforce the attraction of drama, conflict on the Republican side.

I don't know...I'd sure knock him off if I could.  He's about the only one who cannot win IMO.
Title: Re: Report: GOP Elites Plan to Take Down Trump With Deluge of Anti-Trump Ads After Labor Day
Post by: Godzilla on August 31, 2015, 10:37:18 pm
It speaks volumes that the GOPe would rather concentrate on taking down a member of their own party instead of taking down a Socialist or a DEM.  Unbelievable.

Trump is a member of the GOPe?

Title: Re: Report: GOP Elites Plan to Take Down Trump With Deluge of Anti-Trump Ads After Labor Day
Post by: NavyCanDo on August 31, 2015, 10:38:50 pm

He can never be elected President next year.  He has no 'Chops' in the arena whatsoever. 

I'm not even sure what you mean by no chops?   Besides being the nations most notable and awarded neurosurgeon, he served on the board of directors of the Kellogg Company and Costco.  He was awarded the Horatio Alger Award given to extraordinary self-made Americans, joining other recipients, Bob Dole, Dwight Eisenhower, Gerald Ford and Ronald Reagan. In 2008 he was awarded the Presidential Medal of Freedom by George W. Bush for his brilliance, leadership and compassion, the nations highest civilian award. He has been 38 honorary doctorate degrees, and a 2014 Gallup poll found Carson the sixth most admired man in America. No other prospective Republican candidate made it any higher than number 17 in that poll.   
In 2009 a major motion picture was made on his life, staring Cuba Gooding Jr. called "Gifted Hands" which covered his extraordinary life.
Parade Magazine wrote this about him. "some say he would be a great man even if he never picked up a scalpel".
And Barbara Walters, "He works miracles on children others have written off as hopeless".

And when it comes to politics, HE IS NOT THE NEW KID ON THE BLOCK when it comes to being a part in restoring America. It’s been a long-time  passion of his and there is no question that he is as much of reason to be sitting on top as Trump has –and in my opinion more so.    He is also a New York Times best-selling author of seven books, with his book, One Nation released at the same times as Hillary Clinton's book Hard Choices, far outsold her book for five weeks. Several of his books were wrapped around his passion for restoring America, with titles such as:

• One Nation: What We Can All Do to Save America’s Future.
• A More Perfect Union: What the People can Do ro Reclaim Our Constitutional Liberties
• America the Beautiful: Rediscovering What Made This Nation Great
• One Vote: Make Your Voice Heard

Note:    During the same period Carson was writing these books, Trump was greasing political skids, with the majority his donations going to  Democrats.


So please stop it with the B.S. that Dr. Ben Carson does not have the credentials to be President.   
Title: Re: Report: GOP Elites Plan to Take Down Trump With Deluge of Anti-Trump Ads After Labor Day
Post by: libertybele on August 31, 2015, 11:05:16 pm
Trump is a member of the GOPe?

No, not in any way calling Trump GOPe - merely stating that the GOPe would rather take out a candidate running in their party (Republican) than a socialist or DEM.
Title: Re: Report: GOP Elites Plan to Take Down Trump With Deluge of Anti-Trump Ads After Labor Day
Post by: Bigun on August 31, 2015, 11:15:30 pm
Ben Carson may be jockeying for vice-president.

He can never be elected President next year.  He has no 'Chops' in the arena whatsoever.  He needs to be Sec of State even, rather than VP, IMO.

It's obvious that he can be an expert negotiator and diplomat.  It's obvious that as an outsider, he's patently honest.

But, IMO, he's not going to say anything cross about Donald Trump.  Not personally.  It's not Carson's style.

All I know is that the more people see of him the better they like him and that alone will take him a very long way with the general public.  The problem for him is that the people currently benefiting from business as usual in Washington will come don on him like a ton of bricks if the see that he is making inroads toward the actual nomination.
Title: Re: Report: GOP Elites Plan to Take Down Trump With Deluge of Anti-Trump Ads After Labor Day
Post by: libertybele on August 31, 2015, 11:25:31 pm
I'm not even sure what you mean by no chops?   Besides being the nations most notable and awarded neurosurgeon, he served on the board of directors of the Kellogg Company and Costco.  He was awarded the Horatio Alger Award given to extraordinary self-made Americans, joining other recipients, Bob Dole, Dwight Eisenhower, Gerald Ford and Ronald Reagan. In 2008 he was awarded the Presidential Medal of Freedom by George W. Bush for his brilliance, leadership and compassion, the nations highest civilian award. He has been 38 honorary doctorate degrees, and a 2014 Gallup poll found Carson the sixth most admired man in America. No other prospective Republican candidate made it any higher than number 17 in that poll.   
In 2009 a major motion picture was made on his life, staring Cuba Gooding Jr. called "Gifted Hands" which covered his extraordinary life.
Parade Magazine wrote this about him. "some say he would be a great man even if he never picked up a scalpel".
And Barbara Walters, "He works miracles on children others have written off as hopeless".

And when it comes to politics, HE IS NOT THE NEW KID ON THE BLOCK when it comes to being a part in restoring America. It’s been a long-time  passion of his and there is no question that he is as much of reason to be sitting on top as Trump has –and in my opinion more so.    He is also a New York Times best-selling author of seven books, with his book, One Nation released at the same times as Hillary Clinton's book Hard Choices, far outsold her book for five weeks. Several of his books were wrapped around his passion for restoring America, with titles such as:

• One Nation: What We Can All Do to Save America’s Future.
• A More Perfect Union: What the People can Do ro Reclaim Our Constitutional Liberties
• America the Beautiful: Rediscovering What Made This Nation Great
• One Vote: Make Your Voice Heard

Note:    During the same period Carson was writing these books, Trump was greasing political skids, with the majority his donations going to  Democrats.


So please stop it with the B.S. that Dr. Ben Carson does not have the credentials to be President.   

B.S.?  Good grief.  Give me a break.  It takes more than being a brilliant neurosurgeon and writing a few books to have the credentials to be president.  He has no political experience, i.e. mayor, city councilmen, governor, state senator, U.S. senator, state representative, U.S. representative, solicitor general, lieutenant governor, etc., etc.  Not only that he has NO business experience; he sat on a board of directors...not exactly a need to be business savvy.  He doesn't even have any experience with law; i.e., lawyer, judge, law clerk, etc.  Lots of people have won prestigious awards but that in itself doesn't give them the credentials to be president.  Just because he wrote a book that sold more copies than Hillary certainly doesn't give him the credentials to be president.  There are lots of authors that have outsold Hillary.  Does that mean that have the credentials to be president?  Hardly.

IF he were to have held some political office or been a higher up in the corporate world then I would say, ya he has some type of needed experience to become president. But to write a couple of op ed books or to sit in a board room and cast some votes doesn't even come close to giving him the credentials to be president. 
 


Title: Re: Report: GOP Elites Plan to Take Down Trump With Deluge of Anti-Trump Ads After Labor Day
Post by: Bigun on August 31, 2015, 11:29:45 pm
B.S.?  Good grief.  Give me a break.  It takes more than being a brilliant neurosurgeon and writing a few books to have the credentials to be president.  He has no political experience, i.e. mayor, city councilmen, governor, state senator, U.S. senator, state representative, U.S. representative, solicitor general, lieutenant governor, etc., etc.  Not only that he has NO business experience; he sat on a board of directors...not exactly a need to be business savvy.  He doesn't even have any experience with law; i.e., lawyer, judge, law clerk, etc.  Lots of people have won prestigious awards but that in itself doesn't give them the credentials to be president.  Just because he wrote a book that sold more copies than Hillary certainly doesn't give him the credentials to be president.  There are lots of authors that have outsold Hillary.  Does that mean that have the credentials to be president?  Hardly.

IF he were to have held some political office or been a higher up in the corporate world then I would say, ya he has some type of needed experience to become president. But to write a couple of op ed books or to sit in a board room and cast some votes doesn't even come close to giving him the credentials to be president.

All of which may make him very attractive to voters who have had a gut full of all those "qualified" candidates.
Title: Re: Report: GOP Elites Plan to Take Down Trump With Deluge of Anti-Trump Ads After Labor Day
Post by: libertybele on August 31, 2015, 11:45:11 pm
All of which may make him very attractive to voters who have had a gut full of all those "qualified" candidates.

Yes I understand that.  Because of lack of funds the only candidates that I see left standing will be Bush, Trump, Carson and Cruz.  They are all running under the "conservative" umbrella. Line up their "conservative" credentials and at some point reality needs to set in.
Title: Re: Report: GOP Elites Plan to Take Down Trump With Deluge of Anti-Trump Ads After Labor Day
Post by: bkepley on August 31, 2015, 11:55:40 pm
Yes I understand that.  Because of lack of funds the only candidates that I see left standing will be Bush, Trump, Carson and Cruz.  They are all running under the "conservative" umbrella. Line up their "conservative" credentials and at some point reality needs to set in.

If I am not yet on your ignore list and if you will take my word for it that I only am interested in your answer and not in an argument (although of course these things can go on for some time as you know) what is it you want from a candidate in a list?
Title: Re: Report: GOP Elites Plan to Take Down Trump With Deluge of Anti-Trump Ads After Labor Day
Post by: NavyCanDo on September 01, 2015, 12:35:47 am
B.S.?  Good grief.  Give me a break.  It takes more than being a brilliant neurosurgeon and writing a few books to have the credentials to be president.  He has no political experience, i.e. mayor, city councilmen, governor, state senator, U.S. senator, state representative, U.S. representative, solicitor general, lieutenant governor, etc., etc.  Not only that he has NO business experience; he sat on a board of directors...not exactly a need to be business savvy.  He doesn't even have any experience with law; i.e., lawyer, judge, law clerk, etc.  Lots of people have won prestigious awards but that in itself doesn't give them the credentials to be president.  Just because he wrote a book that sold more copies than Hillary certainly doesn't give him the credentials to be president.  There are lots of authors that have outsold Hillary.  Does that mean that have the credentials to be president?  Hardly.

IF he were to have held some political office or been a higher up in the corporate world then I would say, ya he has some type of needed experience to become president. But to write a couple of op ed books or to sit in a board room and cast some votes doesn't even come close to giving him the credentials to be president.

Dr. Carson’s qualifications to be President are certainly far more extensive, and greater than many, maybe even most  United States senators, most of whom have very limited executive experience. For instance, Washington’s Patty Murray “the mom in tennis shoes” as they called her.   Make no mistake, a number of United States senators have made very good presidents, just as have a number of men who never served in an elected position prior to being president.  But it can also be said that long time U.S senators are part of the “Washington establishment” which I thought was the Tea Parties nemesis.

And as far as Governors are concerned, only eighteen United States presidents served as a state governor. If you limit qualifications to someone who has served as a governor, you would eliminate John Adams, James Madison, Andrew Jackson, Harry Truman, John Kennedy, and Abraham Lincoln.

It is the height of arrogance to contend that only experienced politicians has what it takes to serve as President of the United States.

It’s like the old joke  - about a young man who inherited a huge some of money. This young man wasn’t smart, but he was wise enough to know it. So, he decided to use his inheritance to pay for a brain transplant. He went to a brain transplant center and asked what brains were available. The person he spoke with said that they had some incredible brains, including an astronauts brain that cost nine hundred thousand dollars. The spokesman told him about another brain from a surgeon that cost a million dollars. Finally the brain center spokesman told him about a politician’s brains, and said they cost two million dollars. The young man exclaimed that he didn’t know politicians were that smart. The spokesman assured him that wasn’t the case; it was just because it took so many to have a complete brain.

It’s the kind of joke Ronald Reagan might have told. And, everyone would have understood exactly what he meant. And You? 
Title: Re: Report: GOP Elites Plan to Take Down Trump With Deluge of Anti-Trump Ads After Labor Day
Post by: libertybele on September 01, 2015, 12:49:04 am
If I am not yet on your ignore list and if you will take my word for it that I only am interested in your answer and not in an argument (although of course these things can go on for some time as you know) what is it you want from a candidate in a list?

I have no reason to put you on "ignore", nor do I care to argue.  I firmly believe that Washington is broken and corrupt and has been for sometime and that the Washington cartel (both Republican and Democrats) are destroying this country.  Due to the vast amount of corruption in our government I am not so sure that we will even make it to another election.  In answering your direction question of what I want in a candidate:

First and foremost; someone with conservative principles and values that will honor and uphold the Constitution and who has a deep knowledge and love of the Constitution and Constitutional law.

Integrity.

Someone who will put the best interest of America and American citizens first and set aside politics.

Someone who will stand for liberty.

Someone with the ability to lead.  Someone who will lead us to restoring this country rather than keep us on this path of destruction.

A Christian with christian beliefs; the very principles and ideals upon which this country was founded.

Someone who will once again gain respect for our country around the globe.

Someone who will reignite the promise of America and who will stand unapologetically with the nation of Israel.


Ted Cruz 2016!  Imagine...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=opdaTJKmWTQ
Title: Re: Report: GOP Elites Plan to Take Down Trump With Deluge of Anti-Trump Ads After Labor Day
Post by: bkepley on September 01, 2015, 12:58:58 am
I have no reason to put you on "ignore".  What I want from a candidate:

First and foremost; someone with conservative principles and values that will honor and uphold the Constitution and who has a deep knowledge of the Constitution and Constitutional law.

Integrity.

Someone who will put the interest of America and American citizens first and set aside politics.

Someone who will stand for liberty.

Someone with the ability to restore our country and lead us away from the path of destruction that we are on.

A Christian with christian beliefs; the very principles and ideals upon which this country was founded.

Someone who will once again gain respect for our country around the globe.

Someone who will reignite the promise of America and who will stand unapologetically with the nation of Israel.

Ted Cruz 2016!  Imagine...A Better Future For America! 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=opdaTJKmWTQ

Ok but I think your defense of Trump on this site indicates that your main concern is how the GOP has failed you not that Trump is what you are looking for in a candidate?  Again I'm asking to understand not to argue.
Title: Re: Report: GOP Elites Plan to Take Down Trump With Deluge of Anti-Trump Ads After Labor Day
Post by: libertybele on September 01, 2015, 01:40:07 am
Ok but I think your defense of Trump on this site indicates that your main concern is how the GOP has failed you not that Trump is what you are looking for in a candidate?  Again I'm asking to understand not to argue.

I am not a supporter of Trump, but I am defending him in as far as he represents (so far) an opposition to the GOP establishment and has brought focus to opposing the establishment on some issues that no other candidate has been able to do.  He has allowed the voice of many to finally be heard.  I feel he deserves credit for that. So far he has been successful in connecting with those that realize that our government has failed "We the People".  I not only believe that the GOP establishment has failed the American people, but,  I believe that BOTH parties have failed the American people.  When, the majority of our 534 members of Congress allows a president to get away with violating his oath of office we have a very serious problem.  When we have Republican leaders who continually side with Democrat leaders then there no longer is a two party system which also indicates that we have a very, very serious problem.

With that being said, I believe it is crucial for the survival of our country to NOT elect a member of the GOP establishment.  We cannot continue on our current path of destruction.

I am uncomfortable with Trump's 3rd party stance, donations to the DEMS (connection with the Clintons), his "attack" personality and perhaps most troubling is his waffling on the 2nd amendment.

Title: Re: Report: GOP Elites Plan to Take Down Trump With Deluge of Anti-Trump Ads After Labor Day
Post by: DCPatriot on September 01, 2015, 01:43:47 am
I am not a supporter of Trump, but I am defending him in as far as he represents (so far) an opposition to the GOP establishment and has brought focus to opposing the establishment on some issues that no other candidate has been able to do.  He has allowed the voice of many to finally be heard.  I feel he deserves credit for that. So far he has been successful in connecting with those that realize that our government has failed "We the People".  I not only believe that the GOP establishment has failed the American people, but,  I believe that BOTH parties have failed the American people.  When, the majority of our 534 members of Congress allows a president to get away with violating his oath of office we have a very serious problem.  When we have Republican leaders who continually side with Democrat leaders then there no longer is a two party system which also indicates that we have a very, very serious problem.

With that being said, I believe it is crucial for the survival of our country to NOT elect a member of the GOP establishment.  We cannot continue on our current path of destruction.

I am uncomfortable with Trump's 3rd party stance, donations to the DEMS (connection with the Clintons), his "attack" personality and perhaps most troubling is his waffling on the 2nd amendment.

Come out of the closet, libertybele!

Your Trump-gayness be damned!   You'll feel liberated.  Like you just stepped out of a hot shower!     :laugh:
Title: Re: Report: GOP Elites Plan to Take Down Trump With Deluge of Anti-Trump Ads After Labor Day
Post by: libertybele on September 01, 2015, 02:09:38 am
Come out of the closet, libertybele!

Your Trump-gayness be damned!   You'll feel liberated.  Like you just stepped out of a hot shower!     :laugh:

Oh, what the heck!   :beer:      :silly:

Cruz 2016!  Imagine!
Title: Re: Report: GOP Elites Plan to Take Down Trump With Deluge of Anti-Trump Ads After Labor Day
Post by: DCPatriot on September 01, 2015, 02:17:37 am
Oh, what the heck!   :beer:      :silly:

Cruz 2016!  Imagine!

No!  Sorry, I can't!     :chairbang:        :laugh: 
Title: Re: Report: GOP Elites Plan to Take Down Trump With Deluge of Anti-Trump Ads After Labor Day
Post by: aligncare on September 01, 2015, 02:21:08 am
Seven years of Obama and we worry about Trump's stance on the second amendment? That makes no sense.


Title: Re: Report: GOP Elites Plan to Take Down Trump With Deluge of Anti-Trump Ads After Labor Day
Post by: DCPatriot on September 01, 2015, 02:28:34 am
Seven years of Obama and we worry about Trump's stance on the second amendment? That makes no sense.

Was compiling a long-winded post today, which I ultimately deleted....

...one that observed that over the years, that you find yourself aligned...no pun intended...with the same several to a half-dozen members.

More pointedly, you develop impressions as to where YOU PLACE each and every one of us fall on the 'Conservative Scale'.

AC, I'm so proud to find myself agreeing with you all the time.    :beer:

PS:  It must be the Sicilian blood running through our hearts.
Title: Re: Report: GOP Elites Plan to Take Down Trump With Deluge of Anti-Trump Ads After Labor Day
Post by: aligncare on September 01, 2015, 02:38:31 am
If anyone should have tried to make sweeping changes to gun laws at the federal level it would have been the lawless president, Barack Hussein Obama, with his phone and a pen.

Someone please correct me but I believe gun laws have not gotten much worse than they already are. And I certainly don't see Trump as some kind of anti-gun warrior.

And, yes, DC, we do seem to be of like mind these days. Definitely, it must be the Siciliano.  :beer:
Title: Re: Report: GOP Elites Plan to Take Down Trump With Deluge of Anti-Trump Ads After Labor Day
Post by: Scottftlc on September 01, 2015, 02:58:43 am
Trump does not appear to be an anti-gun type. One recent quote I remember had him saying we should be much more concerned with our terrible performance dealing with mental illness and not with going after legal gun owners.
Title: Re: Report: GOP Elites Plan to Take Down Trump With Deluge of Anti-Trump Ads After Labor Day
Post by: evadR on September 01, 2015, 03:39:18 am
SO, what is this great plan to take Trump down?
He's not a conservative, he once was seen with the Clintons..inquiring minds need to know.

What a crock.
If this is true, I hope the GOPe chokes on their own venom.  They are the enemy.
Title: Re: Report: GOP Elites Plan to Take Down Trump With Deluge of Anti-Trump Ads After Labor Day
Post by: NavyCanDo on September 01, 2015, 03:41:53 am
Back in 2000 in his book “The America We Deserve” he wrote “The Republicans walk the NRA line and refuse to even limited restrictions. I generally oppose gun control, but I support the ban on assault weapons and I also support a slightly longer waiting period to purchase a gun.”

Also in 2000 he said, “I generally oppose gun control, but I support the ban on assault weapons, and I support a slightly longer waiting period to purchase a gun. With today’s Internet technology we should be able to tell within 72-hours if a potential gun owner has a record,” said Trump in 2000, when he was flirting with a run for the White House.

During a speech at CPAC in 2011, he sang a different tune. Trump said he opposed gun control.

Today he is walking that back by saying he was not referring to AR-15s as assault weapons, but many NRA members are not swallowing it, and call it a flip-flop for political reasons.
Title: Re: Report: GOP Elites Plan to Take Down Trump With Deluge of Anti-Trump Ads After Labor Day
Post by: aligncare on September 01, 2015, 04:16:32 am
Trump's not an ideologue. His corporation gives equally to Republicans and Democrats, especially where and when politicians might hamper his ability to get a building project completed.

That common practice of political patronage, encouraged and sustained by politicians--not the business community; of CEO's having to grease government palms to avoid having their business targeted and punished is why many people are turning to Trump. He didn't make the rules but he did follow them to get his projects done.

But, I doubt his wish is to sanction the practice. I think he believes businesses should be left alone to do their job. I also think that he believes politicians are mostly scumbags with their hands out.

I think he wants to be the new sheriff in town. Doesn't sound so bad to me.
Title: Re: Report: GOP Elites Plan to Take Down Trump With Deluge of Anti-Trump Ads After Labor Day
Post by: truth_seeker on September 01, 2015, 05:06:16 am
AC, I'm so proud to find myself agreeing with you all the time.    :beer:

PS:  It must be the Sicilian blood running through our hearts.
I am "IBM" which stands for "Italian By Marriage."
Title: Re: Report: GOP Elites Plan to Take Down Trump With Deluge of Anti-Trump Ads After Labor Day
Post by: Formerly Once-Ler on September 01, 2015, 08:19:25 am
With that being said, I believe it is crucial for the survival of our country to NOT elect a member of the GOP establishment.  We cannot continue on our current path of destruction.

I have been tasked by my GOPe secret masters with a reconnaissance mission to find out how exposed the GOPe is.

It is undeniable that the secret masters of the GOPe have chosen Gov. Jeb Bush to be the next GOP nominee.  We would have gotten away with it too, if it wasn't for that accursed Donald Trump!

We also know Sen. Graham, Gov. Christie, Gov. Petaki are compromised, and you outed Gov. Kasich and Gov. Gilmore yesterday.

I can reveal no more for fear of punishment.

Now I ask, do you know or suspected any of the other candidates of being GOPRINO?( aside from Sen. Ted Cruz who was once the biggest thorn in our side)

Gov. Scott Walker
Sen. Marco Rubio
Ben Carson
Gov. Mike Huckabee
Carly Fiorina
Sen. Rand Paul
Gov. Rick Perry
Gov. Bobby Jindal
Sen. Rick Santorum

As a reward for helping me, even though I don't deserve it...ya know...being part of the conspiracy to destroy the country, here is a picture of Sen. Ted Cruz as Justice League of America's Super Hero from the future Booster Gold.

(http://thefederalist.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/08/Cruz-683x1024.png)

Ted Cruz is Golden.

Title: Re: Report: GOP Elites Plan to Take Down Trump With Deluge of Anti-Trump Ads After Labor Day
Post by: DCPatriot on September 01, 2015, 10:39:06 am
I am "IBM" which stands for "Italian By Marriage."

 :beer:
Title: Re: Report: GOP Elites Plan to Take Down Trump With Deluge of Anti-Trump Ads After Labor Day
Post by: libertybele on September 01, 2015, 12:36:32 pm
If anyone should have tried to make sweeping changes to gun laws at the federal level it would have been the lawless president, Barack Hussein Obama, with his phone and a pen.

Someone please correct me but I believe gun laws have not gotten much worse than they already are. And I certainly don't see Trump as some kind of anti-gun warrior.

And, yes, DC, we do seem to be of like mind these days. Definitely, it must be the Siciliano.  :beer:

There have been numerous attempts by this president and this administration to change gun laws. Thankfully we have the National Rifle Association, National Association of Gun Rights, Gun Owners of America and other pro-gun organizations who have pushed back.  Barry's still has a little over a year before his reign of terror is up; don't under estimate him with his mighty pen.

*Trump supports a ban on assault weapons and he also supports a longer waiting period to purchase a firearm.

I say no and hell no.  The 2nd amendment is THE most important right that we have.  Without it we will have NO rights.

*Trump has come out and stated that he would not commit to not running 3rd party; that has a very likely potential to split the Republican vote and hand it to the DEMS.

*Trump has made donations and has connections to the Clintons.

*Those are my main concerns with Trump.  I've stated them before.  We have a lot of time between now and the primaries and much can happen.  As of right now, even with my reservations (and as I have stated several times), I would still vote for Trump over Bush or Christie.

I am a huge supporter of Ted Cruz and believe him to be the best candidate for the office of president. There are a couple of other candidates I would vote for over Trump, but right now they are very low in the polls and doubt they will make it to the finish line.

I firmly believe in voting for the best candidate and not for who I think is going to win and certainly not just because of party affiliation.