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Title: Without Any Confirmation, MSNBC Promotes Claim Chicago Attackers Wore MAGA Hats [UPDATED]
Post by: rangerrebew on January 30, 2019, 01:10:34 pm

Without Any Confirmation, MSNBC Promotes Claim Chicago Attackers Wore MAGA Hats [UPDATED]
By Curtis Houck | January 29, 2019 4:33 PM EST

UPDATE, 7:44 p.m. Eastern: ABC News is reporting that police conducted a follow-up interview with Smollett and that he informed them the alleged attackers did use the “this is MAGA country” phrase. Turns out, the Daily Beast stealth-edited their post to remove the excerpt mentioned in the original version of this post to remove a passage about having spoken to Chicago Police in which they stated they had no evidence of that phrase being used. Thus far, the portion about MAGA hats has not been proven true.

The original post is below.

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Empire star Jesse Smollett was brutally attacked early Tuesday morning in Chicago in what police have suggested could be deemed a hate crime due to Smollett being gay and the assailants allegedly hurling homophobic and racist slurs.

However, one such claim that has not yet been substantiated was the notion that the alleged perpetrators either wore Make America Great Again (MAGA) hats or shouted “this is MAGA country” to Smollett as he was beaten, doused in bleach, and had a noose tied around his neck. Despite that, the 1:00 p.m. Eastern edition of MSNBC Live mentioned it anyway.


Source URL: https://www.newsbusters.org/blogs/nb/curtis-houck/2019/01/29/without-any-confirmation-msnbc-promotes-claim-chicago-attackers (https://www.newsbusters.org/blogs/nb/curtis-houck/2019/01/29/without-any-confirmation-msnbc-promotes-claim-chicago-attackers)
Title: Re: Without Any Confirmation, MSNBC Promotes Claim Chicago Attackers Wore MAGA Hats [UPDATED]
Post by: goatprairie on January 30, 2019, 02:56:01 pm
Talk about jumping to conclusions. They don't even know if he was actually attacked by anyone.
This thing smells to high heaven of another hoax.
The alleged attackers were hanging around a Subway at 2 am on a bitterly cold, sub-zero morning carrying a noose and a bottle of bleach, wearing MAGA hats, and  waiting for Smollet? Then yelling this is MAGA country in a hardcore lib city where wearing a hat like that can you killed?
 Sure, tell me another one. And I've got a bridge in Brooklyn to sell to you.
Of course all the lib outlets ran with this story without hesitation. A perfect counter story to the Covington boys case, wouldn't you say? Timed just perfectly.
Title: Re: Without Any Confirmation, MSNBC Promotes Claim Chicago Attackers Wore MAGA Hats [UPDATED]
Post by: Sanguine on January 30, 2019, 04:21:28 pm
Yeah, I don't buy this one. 
Title: Re: Without Any Confirmation, MSNBC Promotes Claim Chicago Attackers Wore MAGA Hats [UPDATED]
Post by: Sanguine on January 30, 2019, 05:40:39 pm
Ooopsie:

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Shifting Stories Cloud Claims of Alleged Hate Crime Attack Targeting 'Empire' Actor Jussie Smollett

The incendiary story of an alleged hate crime attack targeting Empire actor Jussie Smollett immediately went viral yesterday, with media reporting the attackers made racial and anti-gay comments while using President Trump's "MAGA" slogan during the 2 a.m. assault in downtown Chicago.

But conflicting versions of the incident from Smollett himself, and details reported by the media being outright contradicted by Chicago Police have raised questions about what actually happened.

Debra Heine noted on the PJ Media last night that police had found surveillance video of Smollett, but had not been able to find video of the alleged assailants....

https://pjmedia.com/trending/shifting-stories-cloud-claims-of-alleged-hate-crime-attack-targeting-empire-actor-jussie-smollett/
Title: Re: Without Any Confirmation, MSNBC Promotes Claim Chicago Attackers Wore MAGA Hats [UPDATED]
Post by: Frank Cannon on January 30, 2019, 05:44:04 pm
Ooopsie:

The moment I heard this it sounded like another D-List actor making shit up to raise their profile. Does anyone believe that in a city as Liberal as Shitcago that there are roaming bands of gay bashers?
Title: Re: Without Any Confirmation, MSNBC Promotes Claim Chicago Attackers Wore MAGA Hats [UPDATED]
Post by: Sanguine on January 30, 2019, 05:46:59 pm
The moment I heard this it sounded like another D-List actor making shit up to raise their profile. Does anyone believe that in a city as Liberal as Shitcago that there are roaming bands of gay bashers?

Wearing MAGA hats and who watch Empire.
Title: Re: Without Any Confirmation, MSNBC Promotes Claim Chicago Attackers Wore MAGA Hats [UPDATED]
Post by: jmyrlefuller on January 30, 2019, 05:55:20 pm
Ah, the ol' Morton Downey Jr. gambit.
Title: Re: Without Any Confirmation, MSNBC Promotes Claim Chicago Attackers Wore MAGA Hats [UPDATED]
Post by: LadyLiberty on January 30, 2019, 05:59:13 pm
I'm betting that he made it up as cover for something embarrassing, like a tryst gone wrong.
Title: Re: Without Any Confirmation, MSNBC Promotes Claim Chicago Attackers Wore MAGA Hats [UPDATED]
Post by: Wingnut on January 30, 2019, 07:16:18 pm
I'm betting that he made it up as cover for something embarrassing, like a tryst gone wrong.

Frankie went to Chicago. Relax. Don't do it. 
Title: Re: Without Any Confirmation, MSNBC Promotes Claim Chicago Attackers Wore MAGA Hats [UPDATED]
Post by: Idiot on January 30, 2019, 07:18:46 pm
On GMA this morning they reported that a video only showed him...no one else.  Then of course they reported the MAGA hats....geez.
Title: Re: Without Any Confirmation, MSNBC Promotes Claim Chicago Attackers Wore MAGA Hats [UPDATED]
Post by: dfwgator on January 30, 2019, 07:24:08 pm
Frankie went to Chicago. 

Jesus just left.
Title: 'Empire' Star Jussie Smollett Victim of Homophobic Attack in Chicago
Post by: TomSea on January 30, 2019, 08:03:07 pm
The latest update, they aren't finding anything to confirm this attack:

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JUST IN: Chicago police say they’ve reviewed hundreds of hours of footage from downtown Chicago surveillance cameras but haven’t found footage yet of the alleged attack on “Empire” actor Jussie Smollett, who claimed to two men shouted homophobic and racist slurs at him
https://twitter.com/BreakingNLive/status/1090671232012480518


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'Empire' Star Jussie Smollett Victim of Homophobic Attack in Chicago

Chicago police have opened a hate crime investigation after a cast member of the television show "Empire" alleged he was attacked by men who shouted racial and homophobic slurs at him and physically attacked him.

https://twitter.com/BreakingNLive/status/1090671232012480518
Title: Re: Without Any Confirmation, MSNBC Promotes Claim Chicago Attackers Wore MAGA Hats [UPDATED]
Post by: Wingnut on January 30, 2019, 08:34:50 pm
Jesus just left.

You don't have to worry 'cause takin' care of business is his name
Title: Re: Without Any Confirmation, MSNBC Promotes Claim Chicago Attackers Wore MAGA Hats [UPDATED]
Post by: LadyLiberty on January 30, 2019, 10:47:22 pm
This is interesting:  https://pjmedia.com/trending/shifting-stories-cloud-claims-of-alleged-hate-crime-attack-targeting-empire-actor-jussie-smollett/ (https://pjmedia.com/trending/shifting-stories-cloud-claims-of-alleged-hate-crime-attack-targeting-empire-actor-jussie-smollett/)
Title: Re: Without Any Confirmation, MSNBC Promotes Claim Chicago Attackers Wore MAGA Hats [UPDATED]
Post by: LadyLiberty on January 30, 2019, 10:50:17 pm
From the AP:  Police: No footage yet showing ‘Empire’ actor being attacked

https://apnews.com/499db3d5b9e84053aff9f391fe7f514a (https://apnews.com/499db3d5b9e84053aff9f391fe7f514a)
Title: Re: Without Any Confirmation, MSNBC Promotes Claim Chicago Attackers Wore MAGA Hats [UPDATED]
Post by: dfwgator on January 30, 2019, 11:06:22 pm
You don't have to worry 'cause takin' care of business is his name

Have Mercy!
Title: Re: Without Any Confirmation, MSNBC Promotes Claim Chicago Attackers Wore MAGA Hats [UPDATED]
Post by: dfwgator on January 30, 2019, 11:08:00 pm
From the AP:  Police: No footage yet showing ‘Empire’ actor being attacked

https://apnews.com/499db3d5b9e84053aff9f391fe7f514a (https://apnews.com/499db3d5b9e84053aff9f391fe7f514a)

Here's the footage...

(https://media.giphy.com/media/ToMjGpHLTuhSJzmcxYk/giphy.gif)
Title: Re: Without Any Confirmation, MSNBC Promotes Claim Chicago Attackers Wore MAGA Hats [UPDATED]
Post by: TomSea on January 31, 2019, 11:10:44 pm
Latest, I thought I posted something, I could not find it:
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Buck Sexton
‏Verified account @BuckSexton
3h3 hours ago

Buck Sexton Retweeted ABC News

If you’re the victim of a hate crime, and police ask for your phone to verify information, you give your phone to police

Smollett refused to give his phone to police

Buck Sexton added,
ABC News
Verified account @ABC

https://twitter.com/BuckSexton/status/1091062906173689856

This is the latest news, "My friends heard the racial or homophobic slurs I was called on the phone but I won't turn my phone over to the police", this is close to the icing on the cake that this is faked.  There is no reason to believe his story. I don't know if he was even hurt much. I heard something about having acid thrown at him??

And the other update is his family is coming out and saying 'Yes, we believe him'.
Title: Re: Without Any Confirmation, MSNBC Promotes Claim Chicago Attackers Wore MAGA Hats [UPDATED]
Post by: Wingnut on January 31, 2019, 11:19:44 pm
Lets see the "Noose".   Oh wait, it wasn't a noose per say....
Title: Re: Without Any Confirmation, MSNBC Promotes Claim Chicago Attackers Wore MAGA Hats [UPDATED]
Post by: 240B on January 31, 2019, 11:28:58 pm
Faking a 'hate crime' is a Great way to get free publicity for some 3rd rate no-name 'star'. And MSNBC as a propaganda channel for the Left, will always go with it regardless of any evidence or facts.

IF? it happened at all, my first guess would be that it was other Black people who did it. These stories almost always turn out that way. But even if this is proved, MSNBC will report that he was attacked by White-Blacks. You know, like Zimmerman was a White-Hispanic.
Title: Re: Without Any Confirmation, MSNBC Promotes Claim Chicago Attackers Wore MAGA Hats [UPDATED]
Post by: roamer_1 on January 31, 2019, 11:32:39 pm
Latest, I thought I posted something, I could not find it:
This is the latest news, "My friends heard the racial or homophobic slurs I was called on the phone but I won't turn my phone over to the police", this is close to the icing on the cake that this is faked.  There is no reason to believe his story. I don't know if he was even hurt much. I heard something about having acid thrown at him??

And the other update is his family is coming out and saying 'Yes, we believe him'.

Not to defend the fakery, but if the cops ask for my phone for any reason they are gonna hear 'Get a warrant', just on general principles.  :shrug:
Title: Re: Without Any Confirmation, MSNBC Promotes Claim Chicago Attackers Wore MAGA Hats [UPDATED]
Post by: jmyrlefuller on January 31, 2019, 11:51:47 pm
Not to defend the fakery, but if the cops ask for my phone for any reason they are gonna hear 'Get a warrant', just on general principles.  :shrug:
  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Without Any Confirmation, MSNBC Promotes Claim Chicago Attackers Wore MAGA Hats [UPDATED]
Post by: 240B on January 31, 2019, 11:52:16 pm
Not to defend the fakery, but if the cops ask for my phone for any reason they are gonna hear 'Get a warrant', just on general principles.  :shrug:
I understand. But in this case it is really not like that. He went to the Police, they didn't come to him. The Police are only asking for anything to help them solve the crime that he reported. If he is withholding evidence to help them solve the crime, then that is very suspicious. It would seem that he prefers his 'story' over finding out what actually happened, if anything did happen at all.
Title: Re: Without Any Confirmation, MSNBC Promotes Claim Chicago Attackers Wore MAGA Hats [UPDATED]
Post by: roamer_1 on January 31, 2019, 11:56:23 pm
I understand. But in this case it is really not like that. He went to the Police, they didn't come to him. The Police are only asking for anything to help them solve the crime that he reported. If he is withholding evidence to help them solve the crime, then that is very suspicious. It would seem that he prefers his 'story' over finding out what actually happened, if anything did happen at all.
Great! Then they can get a warrant, pull his LUDS, and prove he made a false claim
Title: Re: Without Any Confirmation, MSNBC Promotes Claim Chicago Attackers Wore MAGA Hats [UPDATED]
Post by: TomSea on February 01, 2019, 12:08:50 am
I understand. But in this case it is really not like that. He went to the Police, they didn't come to him. The Police are only asking for anything to help them solve the crime that he reported. If he is withholding evidence to help them solve the crime, then that is very suspicious. It would seem that he prefers his 'story' over finding out what actually happened, if anything did happen at all.

 :thumbsup:

Absolutely, the police are investigating a crime, you and Buck Sexton are both correct. What's next? Report a burglary and request the police get a search warrant before coming in?

Especially if this is part of the testimony, it's probably evidence in that sense, if you don't want to give it in because you think they will monkey with it, document it somehow, recordings? I betcha they don't have recordings.

Title: Re: Without Any Confirmation, MSNBC Promotes Claim Chicago Attackers Wore MAGA Hats [UPDATED]
Post by: goatprairie on February 01, 2019, 01:01:31 am
Faking a 'hate crime' is a Great way to get free publicity for some 3rd rate no-name 'star'. And MSNBC as a propaganda channel for the Left, will always go with it regardless of any evidence or facts.

IF? it happened at all, my first guess would be that it was other Black people who did it. These stories almost always turn out that way. But even if this is proved, MSNBC will report that he was attacked by White-Blacks. You know, like Zimmerman was a White-Hispanic.
"my first guess would be that it was other Black people who did it"

Might be some "rough trade." Might be a person or person of different ethnicities. But they want their money....or else.  Maybe Smollet didn't want to pay the "proper" price, and things went south.
Or maybe he just did it to himself because his boy friend wouldn't accommodate him for the evening.
Nevertheless, he's a lying sos.
Title: Re: Without Any Confirmation, MSNBC Promotes Claim Chicago Attackers Wore MAGA Hats [UPDATED]
Post by: Fishrrman on February 01, 2019, 01:07:22 am
240b wrote:
"If he is withholding evidence to help them solve the crime, then that is very suspicious. It would seem that he prefers his 'story' over finding out what actually happened, if anything did happen at all."

It should be obvious to everyone here by now:
This is nuthin' but another "fake hate crime".
Title: Re: Without Any Confirmation, MSNBC Promotes Claim Chicago Attackers Wore MAGA Hats [UPDATED]
Post by: Frank Cannon on February 01, 2019, 01:08:33 am
Jessie Jackson or Rev Al show up on the scene yet?

(https://mediad.publicbroadcasting.net/p/shared/npr/styles/placed_wide/nprshared/201805/209290468.jpg)
Title: Re: Without Any Confirmation, MSNBC Promotes Claim Chicago Attackers Wore MAGA Hats [UPDATED]
Post by: TomSea on February 01, 2019, 01:29:42 am
If you claim you were racially or homophobically attacked by people and tell police, my friends heard it on the cell phone, there is a compelling reason that the police would want it. Okay, the police are not interested in hearing a recording, that would not exist but I guess, phone records exist. One would ask those records to be submitted at a minimum.
Title: Re: Without Any Confirmation, MSNBC Promotes Claim Chicago Attackers Wore MAGA Hats [UPDATED]
Post by: goatprairie on February 01, 2019, 02:07:36 am
240b wrote:
"If he is withholding evidence to help them solve the crime, then that is very suspicious. It would seem that he prefers his 'story' over finding out what actually happened, if anything did happen at all."

It should be obvious to everyone here by now:
This is nuthin' but another "fake hate crime".
I've been over to DemocraticUnderground aka DummyUnderground, and they're still buying the story.
A few saps have wondered why the fraud didn't turn in his cell phone to the cops, but they were attacked for  not being sensitive to the fraud's plight.
Title: Re: Without Any Confirmation, MSNBC Promotes Claim Chicago Attackers Wore MAGA Hats [UPDATED]
Post by: TomSea on February 01, 2019, 11:16:32 pm
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DyUd98hV4AEaExD.jpg)

Looks like they have some suspects.