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General Category => General Discussion => Topic started by: Liberal_Spy on October 16, 2013, 03:39:09 am
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I saw a thread on Reddit talking about the idea of making voting mandatory. It seemed to be a pretty popular idea over there, but what do you guys think?
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I saw a thread on Reddit talking about the idea of making voting mandatory. It seemed to be a pretty popular idea over there, but what do you guys think?
What part of this being a "free" country do the people on Reddit not understand? Has anyone over there actually read the constitution or the Federalist Papers? For that matter... have you???
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What part of this being a "free" country do the people on Reddit not understand? Has anyone over there actually read the constitution or the Federalist Papers? For that matter... have you???
I'm sure one or two of them have, and yes, I have.
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I'm sure one or two of them have, and yes, I have.
Then, with all due respect, what it says did not sink in if you even have to ask if something - even voting - should be "mandatory" in this country. We are not Venezuela or Cuba where they have a communist system and make voting mandatory - oh and by the way tell you who you are expected to vote for.
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oh and by the way tell you who you are expected to vote for.
I was very, very strongly urged to vote Republican when I was in the Army.
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I was very, very strongly urged to vote Republican when I was in the Army.
If I was in the military I'd vote Republican, too... unless you've missed how this current CIC has such disdain for the military.
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If I was in the military I'd vote Republican, too... unless you've missed how this current CIC has such disdain for the military.
My point was that hive mind exists in the United States too.
EDIT: Oh, and I just want to clarify that I don't really have a stance on this topic. I was pretty neutral about it after reading the post, and was just curious what all of you thought.
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My point was that hive mind exists in the United States too.
EDIT: Oh, and I just want to clarify that I don't really have a stance on this topic. I was pretty neutral about it after reading the post, and was just curious what all of you thought.
I think we have too many low information voters who vote simply on color of skin or because they work in a union, etc., frankly if a person doesn't know who or what they are voting for I prefer they don't vote. Case in point - you are in Florida. Alcee Hastings keeps getting re-elected time after time and is one of the biggest crooks out there.... yet he has been in congress since 1993...
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/politics/campaigns/junkie/links/hastings102189.htm
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I think we have too many low information voters who vote simply on color of skin or because they work in a union, etc., frankly if a person doesn't know who or what they are voting for I prefer they don't vote. Case in point - you are in Florida. Alcee Hastings keeps getting re-elected time after time and is one of the biggest crooks out there.... yet he has been in congress since 1993...
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/politics/campaigns/junkie/links/hastings102189.htm
I can't stand this state. It's hot, humid and horrible, and most of the people are cretins.
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You could always more to Arizona, but you'd have to become a Republican :beer:
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You could always more to Arizona, but you'd have to become a Republican :beer:
Arizona is just as hot with a little less humidity unless I am mistaken. I was thinking more like Vermont or Maryland.
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Arizona is just as hot with a little less humidity unless I am mistaken. I was thinking more like Vermont or Maryland.
Two liberal utopia's. Did you know they tax you for the rain that falls on your property in Maryland?
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Two liberal utopia's. Did you know they tax you for the rain that falls on your property in Maryland?
I was not aware. haha
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I was not aware. haha
or that Bernie Sanders - one of the two senators from VT is an avowed socialist (independent who caucuses with the Democrats)
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or that Bernie Sanders - one of the two senators from VT is an avowed socialist (independent who caucuses with the Democrats)
That I did know. ^-^
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Mandatory voting impedes the free right to exercise your franchise.
What if you don't want to vote for anyone on the ballot?
What happens if you are seriously ill on polling day? Do they come and question you for not voting?
Who would make sure you actually voted?
To prove you voted, there would have to be some form of voter ID - not gonna happen.
It's one of those pipe dreams youngsters come up with.
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Mandatory voting impedes the free right to exercise your franchise.
What if you don't want to vote for anyone on the ballot?
What happens if you are seriously ill on polling day? Do they come and question you for not voting?
Who would make sure you actually voted?
To prove you voted, there would have to be some form of voter ID - not gonna happen.
It's one of those pipe dreams youngsters come up with.
If something like this actually happened they would probably have a "no candidate" choice. It's not really about forcing people to vote as it is about actually getting them in there in the first place. People are usually just too lazy to vote. I don't think they'd be dragging people from their homes to the polls. They'd probably have a way of checking who participated and setting up a fee for those that didn't.
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People are allowed to be too lazy to vote. That is their choice. Not yours. They have the right to participate - or not.
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There is only a small step to make from “Mandatory Vote” to “Mandatory Vote for this guy”. And yes that was tried here in parts of the United States before, where if you could come up with the money to pay the poll tax, and pass the literary test, and dared to show up to vote, you better vote for the Democrat on the ticket or you would be targeted by the KKK or have your house or church burned.
Read, Setting the Record Straight: American History in Black & White by David Barton, to see what kind of hell messing with our freedom to vote or not vote can lead too.
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Navy - just wanted to say, thank you for reminding me about Barton's book. Not read it in ages and it is due a re-read.
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:silly:
Mandatory voting means that turnout will always be 100% and elections can be stolen at will.
As if we didn't have such a thing already...
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It's a continuation of the voter registration of anyone with a pulse as a goal. It doesn't matter if they have a brain. In fact it's better if they don't. In fact it doesn't even matter if they have a pulse. Dead voters and low information voters are votes in the bag for the tyranny sweeping the country. They can always be controlled with a handout or even just the promise of one.
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People are allowed to be too lazy to vote.
Or, as with some people I have met over the years, they think voting is pointless since neither Party offers much different from the other really. This current quarrel over ObamaCare illustrates the point. Despite having a platform (supposedly a statement of principles) that calls for all Republicans to seek the repeal of the Adorable Care Act only a handful have really stood in the breach and said, "No."
And so it has been since the end of WWII. The march to collectivism continues unabated and the Republican Party has become, in the words of Gourmet Dan, merely "an ineffective alternative to the Democrat Party."
So why bother to vote?
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Or, as with some people I have met over the years, they think voting is pointless since neither Party offers much different from the other really.
I think we should all vote third party for that reason.
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We have enough low information voters casting votes. We don't need all of them. :tongue2:
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Arizona is just as hot with a little less humidity unless I am mistaken. I was thinking more like Vermont or Maryland.
I'm with you, I loathe hot weather. Probably from the 28 years I lived in the Texas heat. I don't know what your personal circumstances are, but I don't believe Maryland is exactly a low tax state, but its a liberal haven. Have you thought about New Hampshire?
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I'm with you, I loathe hot weather. Probably from the 28 years I lived in the Texas heat. I don't know what your personal circumstances are, but I don't believe Maryland is exactly a low tax state, but its a liberal haven. Have you thought about New Hampshire?
Any of the states up there would be way better than Florida.
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I think we should all vote third party for that reason.
Boy you are young. You really need to start reading some of the books we've suggested on your threads and add to your body of knowledge something other than what liberal professors are feeding your brain.
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This thread is a great case in point of why it is best not to have the LIV's vote....
http://www.gopbriefingroom.com/index.php/topic,116648.0.html
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Boy you are young. You really need to start reading some of the books we've suggested on your threads and add to your body of knowledge something other than what liberal professors are feeding your brain.
My dad is responsible for my corruption. He got me when I was young. :P
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My dad is responsible for my corruption. He got me when I was young. :P
This doesn't mean because your dad thought one way you should not take the opportunity to educate and inform yourself about conservative principles... like I said many of us here have recommended reading to you. It would go a long way in educating yourself if you read some of them. Read up on Woodrow Wilson and how his actions are affecting us today. Read the book that came out just this year on Calvin Coolidge - probably one of the most ignored and yet one of our best presidents - the book is called Coolidge. Read The Forgotten Man by Amity Shales - an excellent book. Read the Barton book recommended to you today on another thread...
BTW as someone who has said he wants to be a history professor I highly recommend you familiarize yourself with Barton - one of the best historians in this country today... unlike some who love to re-write history Barton has actually compiled ORIGINAL documents and has an extensive library. He is one of my very favorite people because he is both humble and very, very smart. BTW our mountaineer on here went to school with Barton (just a bit of trivia there)