My vote is for Big Mike
His best pick would be DeSantis. He would be the best choice for the country. 4 years of Trump and 8 years of DeSantis. He needs to also pick Cruz for his AG and clean house.That's secondary to Trump not picking anyone he perceives is or could be a threat to him, there's only room for one star in the Trump show.
I realize that this is never going to happen as Trump picks the worst people.
In sticking with the choices of people given, I think he'd pick Scott.
Absolutely right.
I realize that this is never going to happen as Trump picks the worst people.
God help us. :thud:It's one way to keep the Mooch from running against him... :shrug:
Where's the stoner option?
Where's the stoner option?
Poll needs an "other" space tooHa ha, I read that "outer space." May as well. :tinfoil:
My vote is for Big Mike
My preference would be for DeSantis. He would be the best to follow Trump for 8 years.
But the assessment of both being from the same state, Trump would be compelled to pick someone else.
And with the current lame mindset in politics, the selection will have to be a woman and/or a black. Big Mike does NOT satisfy the criteria, because it would need to be someone that supports Trump, and she is on record for uttering her terror should Trump get a 2nd term.
And it will not be Nikki Haley. She will go out of her way to agitate Trump in the next month or two, and she will not be considered. Thank God!!! I can't stand her.
Kristi Noem is a possibility, but because she supports making all illegal invading aliens citizens, I have no desire for her to gain national prominence.
I like Larry Elder. He is a solid conservative, and I agree with everything he usually says. I think he would be a huge help for Trump. He is a media guy, and Trump would benefit from his experience as well.
What I really do not want, and what destroys Trump's credibility, is anyone formerly involved with the Bush Administration. I consider George Bush equally bad to Obama and Biden. The fat blowhard that he had as AG was worthless in my opinion, and now he speaks against Trump. I also do not want any Obama generals, people who managed to survive Obama's purge of the military of some 4,500 high ranking officers.
I tell you, Trump's 2nd term would be better than another Obama/Biden term, no question, but his inability to work with other people in government has us kicking a can down the road on major issues that should have been addressed 20-30 years ago. And this is not good for the American people. The ONLY PEOPLE being served by this federal government today are the INVADERS, who have zero rights to be here...ZERO RIGHTS...and the American taxpayer is carrying a burden they simply should not have to do.
And in the argument of Americans not having children, this same horrible government has made it all but impossible to survive in this country. Monies that should be invested in our own population are going overseas or to INVADERS. Enough of that bullsh*t!!!
That's secondary to Trump not picking anyone he perceives is or could be a threat to him, there's only room for one star in the Trump show.
Absolutely right.
From Trump's record of nonsense considering people around him, he could actually pick Hillary to be his VP. He could actually do this and everyone would say 'oh well'. How many days until Trump commits suicide.
@240B
The funny part here is how all you loons get your panties all in a wad over ANYTHING the Trump name is connected to in ANY respect.
You DO know he can only serve ONE 4 year term,right?
Here lately,I sometimes think I am reading the Daily Kos or Mother Jones web pages instead of TBR.
I like Trump. Will probably vote for him. But there is no way to deny that his choice in personnel is questionable at best. Trump wants everyone to 'like' him. So he likes to choose people who hate him as employees. He tries to change their minds about him. This was a disastrous trait/habit in his first term. We can only hope he is not so naïve this time around.
90% of people who have worked for Trump, people Trump chose to work for him, wound up backstabbing him. That is an amazing coincidence. Trump likes to pick people who hate him. Then he tries to 'convert' them. It doesn't work like that.
Yes he can only serve one term, which means he has absolutely no incentive to appease his base, follow through with promises made or do what is best for America rather than Trump.
@libertybele
You are right,of course. Trump is a modest fellow,and cares nothing about what the history books will say about him,right? </S>QuoteHis VP choice is important for two obvious reasons; first of all he is aged and should something happen his VP would step in and secondly, the VP normally has a good shot at becoming the next nominee.
THAT I agree with.
Some on the other site seem to like RFK. It says alot about them.
90% of people who have worked for Trump, people Trump chose to work for him, wound up backstabbing him. That is an amazing coincidence. Trump likes to pick people who hate him. Then he tries to 'convert' them. It doesn't work like that.
libertybele...
I hadn't heard of Noem wanting to make ILLEGALS citizens??? Where did you get this information?
I heard this years ago, don't recall the source, but from that point on, I discounted her as a serious conservative. Her recent actions of supporting Gov Abbott would counter that position. Who knows, people do change over time, look at Ronald Reagan, who was once a Democrat.
Who knows, people do change over time, look at Ronald Reagan, who was once a Democrat.
@DB
Or it could be Trump is a terrible boss and 90% greatly dislike him after that experience. That's my bet.
@DB
You may be right about that. I have never worked for Trump so I do not know.
However in my opinion, it is much more likely to be about cash money. During Trump's term up to now, backstabbing Trump was worth a certain million dollars at least or more. Add to that political prestige with the Democrats and their media outlets.
I think it was all about money. There was just way too much temptation in the public zeitgeist. Backstabbing Trump made them a *SuperStar Darling of the press* for at least a month. And, it gave them immunity from the fascist Democrat/MSM purge, slander and prosecution/persecution against all things Trump.
In short, they were afraid and took the easy way out. In Communist Russia everyone became a Communist. Not because they believed in it. They did it because they were afraid. They knew what would happen to them and their family if they refused.
You have serious wealth envy issues.
I have a lot of issues but coveting my neighbors wealth/property is not one of them. happy77Too, you are capable of making new and varied arguments to support your views :whistle:
Too, you are capable of making new and varied arguments to support your views :whistle:
sneakypete...
To be fair to Reagan,and to many,many,other former Dims,being a Dim back then didn't mean the same thing as being a Dim today. The agenda is 180 degrees off today from what it was back then.
I agree completely. Fact is, leadership and much of the Democrats have gone full blown communist. Their desired goals today are identical to the desires of communists in the 50s and 60s. And if they could have totalitarian control of the government, they would relish it. And frankly, I do not believe we are far from that right this minute.
@jafo2010
I agree,and it's all over if Trump isn't elected.
It might be "all over" even if he is elected because the globalist left (ironically enough all of whom are multi-Billionaires) is NOT going to give up on the possibly of "Global Government,Inc" without a fight. Even if Trump is elected,his SS detail needs to be THOROUGHLY checked out to make sure they will all protect him,instead of kill him.
We ain't talking "shoplifting" here,we are talking about stealing the whole damn world.
Where's the stoner option?
And btw.... I am still a bit DeSantis supporter, but the further he stays away from Trump, the better.
It's over right now, unless a conservative 3rd party comes into view...
The choice at this point is liberalism from the left, or liberalism from the right. One way or the other you will get liberalism... which is just a nice way of saying communism/socialism.
Desperation is NEVER pretty
I am not desperate. Just out of game. Once again, I have no dog in this hunt.
A little trepidation, I suppose, due to my current condition - If sh*t goes down right now, I can't get out of its way. Hopefully, I can get my poop in a group and be able to walk off, at which point, whatever happens happens. :shrug: :beer:
@roamer_1
Yeah,I understand that one 100 percent.
Being a geezer ain't nearly as much fun as we might have thought it would be,back when we were young and foolish.
@sneakypete
Well... I do get to fart at any given inopportune moment and blame it on my condition, so there's that...
People are so understanding... :laugh:
I would welcome DeSantis as VP, because I think he is the leader for 2028. Let's face it, Trump has 35% of the Republican base LOCKED. They would never consider someone else. BUT, another huge BUT, Trump would NEVER pick someone that would possibly outshine him in the VP spot. So, DeSantis is a complete zero for VP in 2024!
Sen Tim Scott, Gov Christi Noem or more likely, some dullard (like Pence) all have a shot. I say it is another dullard, perhaps from one of the toss up states. Picking someone from PA, MI, WI, NC, AZ, or NV might have an impact on Trump carrying that state. Trump has both SC and SD locked, so that would rule out Scott and Noem.
With the FIX I expect in November, whoever is the Dem candidate will be the winner. Even dead from the neck up Wrecking Ball Joe. And then the question is, how does the western world survive through four more years of WBJ?
I would welcome DeSantis as VP, because I think he is the leader for 2028.
None of the above!
The correct answer is Dr. Ben Carson.
Trump and DeSantis both live in Florida, so DeSantis cannot be Trump's VP. Must be from different States.
Carson has a very quiet and soft spoken demeanor. I think he is very intelligent, but not enough political experience. Trump is going to need someone more vibrant with a little enthusiasm when he/she speaks and knows first hand the ins and outs of government should Trump not be able to complete his term. Just my opinion.
I would welcome DeSantis as VP, because I think he is the leader for 2028. Let's face it, Trump has 35% of the Republican base LOCKED. They would never consider someone else. BUT, another huge BUT, Trump would NEVER pick someone that would possibly outshine him in the VP spot. So, DeSantis is a complete zero for VP in 2024!
Sen Tim Scott, Gov Christi Noem or more likely, some dullard (like Pence) all have a shot. I say it is another dullard, perhaps from one of the toss up states. Picking someone from PA, MI, WI, NC, AZ, or NV might have an impact on Trump carrying that state. Trump has both SC and SD locked, so that would rule out Scott and Noem.
With the FIX I expect in November, whoever is the Dem candidate will be the winner. Even dead from the neck up Wrecking Ball Joe. And then the question is, how does the western world survive through four more years of WBJ?
Let's be honest. What insane person would want to be Trump's VP?QuoteLook what happened to Pence...
@Jack Russell
Ok,I'll bite. WHAT happened to Pence?
He couldn't have ended up looking more like the Milquetoast he already was.
@jafo2010
If Slow Joe is re-elected,it will be the end of America as a free and independent nation.
The rest of the world will be on their own.
Trump is the ONLY candidate that has even an outside chance of winning thanks to DNC cheating,but he COULD possibly win if the rabid anti-Trumpers would quit doing their little "Superiority dances" long enough to vote for him.
If none of them do,thanks to Dim ballot-box stuffing,the DNC candidate WILL win,and that will be the death of America as a free and independent nation.
It will either be Trump,or the end of America.
We just need someone who has experience balancing a check book and paying off credit cards.
@jafo2010
If Slow Joe is re-elected,it will be the end of America as a free and independent nation.
The rest of the world will be on their own.
Trump is the ONLY candidate that has even an outside chance of winning thanks to DNC cheating,but he COULD possibly win if the rabid anti-Trumpers would quit doing their little "Superiority dances" long enough to vote for him.
If none of them do,thanks to Dim ballot-box stuffing,the DNC candidate WILL win,and that will be the death of America as a free and independent nation.
It will either be Trump,or the end of America.
What a crock of crappola. Had Trump who is bent on retribution and facing 91 felonies did what was right for this country and stepped aside for a true conservative instead of smearing him and making false accusations about him, we may have had a chance. That ship sailed. Our Republic was hanging by a thread then, right now it's sinking and needs a life line. I hate to break it to you, but Trump is never going to get near the WH again.
@libertybele
You are more full of crap than a Christmas turkey.
So do your stupid little superiority dance around your campfire if the Dims win,because you SURELY played a role in helping them obtain their goals.
@jafo2010
If Slow Joe is re-elected,it will be the end of America as a free and independent nation.
Trump is the ONLY candidate that has even an outside chance of winning
thanks to DNC cheating
but he COULD possibly win if the rabid anti-Trumpers would quit doing their little "Superiority dances" long enough to vote for him.
If none of them do, thanks to Dim ballot-box stuffing,the DNC candidate WILL win
I'd rather have someone who will just honor the Constitution and do what is right for America.
@libertybele
You are more full of crap than a Christmas turkey.
So do your stupid little superiority dance around your campfire if the Dims win,because you SURELY played a role in helping them obtain their goals.
@sneakypete
Clearly, the RNC doesn't believe this since they haven't lifted a finger to prevent a repeat of 2020. By their own inaction, they have no problem with another four years of Democrat rule.
@Hoodat
Ahhh,so it will be the RNC's fault that brain-dead cretins sat at home sucking on their thumbs instead of voting!
Good to know!QuoteTo reiterate: Pure horseshit. Trump has never come close to getting 50% of the vote. He has never polled above 50%. His only attraction is to bring out the Democrat vote. There are a lot of Democrats out there who are unhappy with Biden and would sit this one out. But with Trump on the ballot, it gives them reason to show up on election day and vote.
Of course we've been over this countless times before. Each time, I ask you how someone with negatives as high as Trump can win. And each and every time, you completely ignore the question. Maybe if Trump had a moment of clarity, decided to take more care before opening his mouth, and made it a point not to drive more people away, then maybe, just maybe he could pull it off. But I see no sign that Trump will ever do that. Every mistake he made four years ago, he continues to make. The GOP would stand a much better chance in 2024 with a candidate whose negatives were much lower.
Blah,blah,stupid shit,blah.QuoteCheating that Donald Trump has done nothing to correct. Cheating that will happen again in 2024. The bottom line here is that Trump is too stupid to understand how he lost. He has no clue that his signature on all that Covid money is what funded his opposition in 2020 and 2022. He is too stupid to know that cheating needs to be challenged before the election, not after. And he is too stupid to realize that every learning lessons from 2020 could prevent a repeat in 2024. Trump hasn't learned squat. He's still out there proposing new spending bills that will only enrich his opponents. He is still oblivious to the dangers of the GOP Swamp he still cozies up to. And he is still the same bleep that goes out of his way to repel voters from supporting him.
"HIT NOT BEES MAH FALTS IFN'T TRUMP DOAN WIN" is going to be your defense for sitting by sucking on your thumb as America dies,huh?QuoteOr let's look at it in a different way. What reason does someone like me have to vote for Trump? Seriously.
I would say "common sense",but we both know that doesn't apply to Anti-Trumpers.
As Conservatives, give us a reason to vote for Trump. And do so without mentioning the word 'Biden'.
@Hoodat
Ok,if you don't vote for Trump,Santa is going to win.
After all,Biden/a Biden Clone won't be running,right?
@Hoodat
Ok,if you don't vote for Trump,Santa is going to win.
After all,Biden/a Biden Clone won't be running,right?
@Hoodat
Ok,if you don't vote for Trump,Santa is going to win.
After all,Biden/a Biden Clone won't be running,right?
Again @sneakypete how exactly do you think Trump is going to win?? What has changed since the DEMS stole the last election? If Trump was smart he would have instructed his supporters to get them helping out at the precincts and concentrated on election integrity. He wouldn't have gone after a competent conservative instead he would have solicited his help. Instead all he has done is whine and belly-ached pointing out how terrible he's being treated. I listened to about 10 minutes of his MI rally; same ole same ole, whining and complaining without laying out a path forward
The guy is so desperate that he's selling sneakers to pay off some of his debt. All of his supporters must have an extra $300 floating around to help him out. *****rollingeyes*****
At this point one word describes Trump; pathetic.
I am not saying what has been done to him has been fair or just; quite the contrary, but unless he can blow unicorn farts that knock over the DEMS, he's not getting near the WH. Just. Never. Going. To. Happen.
@libertybele
And WHO would that "competent conservative" be?
Trump continued trashing the concept of early votes at his Michigan rally. It ain't happening, folks. You can't fix stupid.
I sure hope the trumpers are making plans for their lives in "no longer America" instead of a mass suicide, or another round of dumbassery on January 6.
You didn't answer my question @sneakypete ; exactly how do you think Trump is going to win? Once you give me an answer, I'll enlighten you.
@libertybele
Trump could win easily if you dingbats fail in your goal to convince people to stay home and not vote for him.
With Gretchen as governor there is little chance that Trump will win MI.
Trump continued trashing the concept of early votes at his Michigan rally. It ain't happening, folks. You can't fix stupid.
I sure hope the trumpers are making plans for their lives in "no longer America" instead of a mass suicide, or another round of dumbassery on January 6.
Nobody is attempting to convince anyone else what to do with their vote
Just many of us are choosing other options over voting for either of the two on the top ticket
BTW, you're still dodging @Hoodat's question
Here it is in case you forgot
As Conservatives, give us a reason to vote for Trump. And do so without mentioning the word 'Biden'.
And I'll add without using vague concepts like "to save America" and "defeat the Dims"
@LMAO
Ok,how about the word "sanity" because the next President IS going to be either Trump or Biden/Biden clone?
You either vote for Trump,or you help elect "Biden/Biden clone".
This ain't all that complex. There are only going to be two candidates,one of whom will be a cog in the leftist machine.
@LMAO
Ok,how about the word "sanity" because the next President IS going to be either Trump or Biden/Biden clone?
You either vote for Trump,or you help elect "Biden/Biden clone".
This ain't all that complex. There are only going to be two candidates,one of whom will be a cog in the leftist machine.
LOL....Trump picked him. All of the blame lies squarely on Trump.Waiting for the usual suspect to pop up and tell you your full of Shiite....everyone knows Trump was forced to pick Pence, just like all the other crappy personnel picks he made :silly: :silly: :silly:
I just got my primary ballot the other day...I voted for Trump..signed it, sealed it and will mail it Tues.
As for the national election in Nov I will vote for the Repub Nominee...I do not like Trump and I really don't want to vote for him but Biden for four more years will finish off the job of destroying the USA.
Here in Texas it was a major effort to get a mail in ballot for my mom so she could vote by mail.
Did you ask for a mail in ballot or did they just send one to everyone? Here in Texas it was a major effort to get a mail in ballot for my mom so she could vote by mail.
No, Il does not just send ballots out.That's what my wife and I did here in California, but if we are feeling well enough we will go to the polls to vote. At this point we need the option.
I requested a mail-in ballot last year due to a health problem at the time..I had a choice to select a one-time-only ballot or to continue future ballots also...I chose all future ballots.
That's what my wife and I did here in California, but if we are feeling well enough we will go to the polls to vote. At this point we need the option.
They're supposed to be sending somebody over from County to figure out how to get me and keep me registered. Didn't get a vote last season, because I don't have a mailing address... Or rather, my mailing address is not my domicile. Evidently that kicks me out. Right now waiting to see if a PO box changes that.I bet it wouldn't be a problem if your name was (https://i.imgur.com/OjeYw9M.jpeg)(remeber Jose Jimenez?) and was voting democrat **nononono* Hell, they wouldn't care where you lived and probably supply you with several mail in ballots.
It pisses me off, because most of the hillbillies I know don't have an address. You get up off the gravel very much and even the rural carriers don't go there.
But evidently, they don't get mail in either.
What a monkey knot. I HATE dealing with government.
I bet it wouldn't be a problem if your name was (https://i.imgur.com/OjeYw9M.jpeg)(remeber Jose Jimenez?) and was voting democrat **nononono* Hell, they wouldn't care where you lived and probably supply you with several mail in ballots.
Nah... Not so much up in here. We get mexicans, but only for the picking time. They blow on through, heading for the coast.
I guess it was instituted to keep things straight, what with the COVID thing and all... I just got runned over.
Which is alright. I understand it. But I won't continue to be disenfranchised when reasonable means are available.
I am being a stinker... Throwing Americans with Disabilities Act around. Heh heh.. They jump through hoops for that. So they're comin 'round. Right to my house. Can't have a disabled American squawkin like that... :whistle:
happy77
Well, I'm about ready to subtly try to pull the age discrimination card, we'll see what happens.
I am being a stinker... Throwing Americans with Disabilities Act around. Heh heh.. They jump through hoops for that. So they're comin 'round. Right to my house. Can't have a disabled American squawkin like that... :whistle:
happy77
Just don't let them think you are a military Veteran. They hate those folks! 888mouth
I like Trump. Will probably vote for him. But there is no way to deny that his choice in personnel is questionable at best. Trump wants everyone to 'like' him. So he likes to choose people who hate him as employees. He tries to change their minds about him. This was a disastrous trait/habit in his first term. We can only hope he is not so naïve this time around.Nope.
90% of people who have worked for Trump, people Trump chose to work for him, wound up backstabbing him. That is an amazing coincidence. Trump likes to pick people who hate him. Then he tries to 'convert' them. It doesn't work like that.
Nope.
If you've read at least some of Trump's books, or watched enough of his interviews, you'll know he's a hyuuge fan of that grinning, gladhanding huckster Norman Vincent Peale. Author of the "The power of positive thinking."
Trump, like all the rest of the people fooled by that con-man Peale, thinks "positive thinking" works just as magically on people as Norm Peale claimed it did.
NEWSFLASH: it doesn't. Each person has their own free will, their own beliefs, their own worldviews. Picking people whose views do not align with yours isn't going to produce the results you envisioned, but will instead produce the results of the people you chose to implement them.
That Trump (somehow) became immensely wealthy in spite of his fealty towards the failed views of an apostate minister is a testimony to Trump.
That Trump still BELIEVES in Norm Vincent's humanistic, utopian views (I fear he's too old to change now) is also an equal condemnation.
Pray for Wisdom and Discernment to be pumped into Trump from Above.
It's our best hope.
Actually I am praying for a miracle. Also I continue to pray that the Lord God Jesus Christ stops the evil that keeps prevailing in this country.
Nope.
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First, you have to stop voting for it. 9999hair out0000
I have no intention of voting for it. I thought I've been pretty clear on that. As of now, unless things drastically change for some reason, I will only be voting for conservatives down ballot.
I have no intention of voting for it. I thought I've been pretty clear on that. As of now, unless things drastically change for some reason, I will only be voting for conservatives down ballot.
Not voting is voting just as not speaking is speaking.
“Silence in the face of evil is itself evil: God will not hold us guiltless.
Not to speak is to speak. Not to act is to act.”
Deitrich Bonhoeffer
Not voting is voting just as not speaking is speaking.
“Silence in the face of evil is itself evil: God will not hold us guiltless.
Not to speak is to speak. Not to act is to act.”
Deitrich Bonhoeffer
It is speaking. It is saying neither has EARNED my vote. Until enough people demand that the Republicans EARN their vote you won't get anything different. The failure to speak against both parties in the voting booth is why we are here as a country. Instead people vote in fear accepting what little less damage that gets done to them. Remember that quote about safety and liberty?Your idea is an automatic failure, though.
Is 'Michelle Obama' the phencyclidine option?One thing's for sure: the fact she is the leading pick by a landslide so far shows the few respondents are NOT in any way taking the poll seriously.
Your idea is an automatic failure, though.
No party cares about non-voters.
Parties and politicians care very much if you vote AGAINST them.
But not voting at all?
LOL, has been their response for as long as voting has ever existed, anywhere, and you ain't gonna change that.
One thing's for sure: the fact she is the leading pick by a landslide so far shows the few respondents are NOT in any way taking the poll seriously.
Your idea is an automatic failure, though.
No party cares about non-voters.
Parties and politicians care very much if you vote AGAINST them.
But not voting at all?
LOL, has been their response for as long as voting has ever existed, anywhere, and you ain't gonna change that.
EDIT: this has nothing to do with Party efforts to recruit new voters. I'm talking about Party attitudes towards people who simply do not and will not vote at all. LOL!! along with eyerolls and headshakes has been their response to that all throughout history, and I see no reason to believe it will change.
Your idea is an automatic failure, though.
No party cares about non-voters.
Parties and politicians care very much if you vote AGAINST them.
But not voting at all?
LOL, has been their response for as long as voting has ever existed, anywhere, and you ain't gonna change that.
FALSE.
Crap sandwich vs. Turd burger argument. And it is false.
Your idea is an automatic failure, though.It's funny, over years I have seen the argument go from stay home, don't vote and teach the bastards a lesson(this was referring to republicans) but once Trump came on the scene it morphed into not voting for Trump was voting for Hillary and now Biden. Nobody gets my vote without earning **nononono* I voted for Trump twice but I just can't do it again, his lack of impulse control, his lying about and attacks on real Conservatives is something I can't ignore any longer, nor his rubber stamping insane spending. I will vote, down ticket but as of now if my choices at the top are Trump or Haley? I might just Hibernate for the next cycle. Besides, people like me have been told repeatedly that The Great Orange One doesn't need our votes, challenge accepted I will test the hypothesis :patriot:
No party cares about non-voters.
Parties and politicians care very much if you vote AGAINST them.
But not voting at all?
LOL, has been their response for as long as voting has ever existed, anywhere, and you ain't gonna change that.
EDIT: this has nothing to do with Party efforts to recruit new voters. I'm talking about Party attitudes towards people who simply do not and will not vote at all. LOL!! along with eyerolls and headshakes has been their response to that all throughout history, and I see no reason to believe it will change.
no Tulsi Gabbard optiom...
I will step in here to remind you that your vote is your endorsement. That is all it can ever be. By definition.
So 'voting against' is bullcrap. You can only vote *for*.
Your politician will not reckon your vote as a vote against his opponent, but only as a vote *for* him.
To couch it otherwise is error.
So you are in effect and in practice voting for MORE damage to liberty and to treasure when you vote for Tumpy... Because that is his record, and that is his veiled promise - veiled in that he still believes he did the right thing wrt pandemic and vax, So he'd do the same thing again. And veiled in his enthusiasm for trillions of dollars invested in 'freedom cities'.
You can't go in thinking you'll get something different than he already has done on the record.
So you'll throw the libertarians and the fiscal conservatives under the bus.
And if you win that way, don't expect either to be resurrected. Ever. You done run them over.
As for me... I will NOT vote against libertarians and fiscal conservatives. I will not endorse a candidate that treated them so very poorly. I will heed their cry. I will follow with them.
And that means I will not, cannot endorse Tumpy.
:yowsa: 100% correct!
BS! 100% USDA Grade A! I am 75 years old and have voted in every election to come along after I was of age. I have voted FOR exactly two presidents in that period. All the rest have been AGAINST the greater evil.
No! It most assuredly is not false!
BS! 100% USDA Grade A! I am 75 years old and have voted in every election to come along after I was of age. I have voted FOR exactly two presidents in that period. All the rest have been AGAINST the greater evil.
BS! 100% USDA Grade A! I am 75 years old and have voted in every election to come along after I was of age. I have voted FOR exactly two presidents in that period. All the rest have been AGAINST the greater evil.
Yes it is false.
I may be forced to eat a Turd burger because I didn't volunteer to eat the crap sandwich instead. But in the end, they are the same damn thing, and I will choose to eat NEITHER. If I am later forced to eat either one (and believe me that force can come from either side), That's on y'all or on them. Not on me.
I 'll hold out for a nice turkey and swiss on the brioche roll from the deli down the street.
And you are stuck in a trap you can't get out of because you are willing to trade a small short term gain in safety for a loss in long term liberty. Those massive debts both Trump and Biden ran up dramatically tightened the bindings on us all, crushing our future. Trump did more damage to liberty in 2020 than any President in the last 50 years. You can make excuses "he didn't know", etc. but that was his job to find out and lead. He failed terribly.
And where are we now?
My 2016 vote for Darrell Castle was not only a vote against the greater evil, it was a vote against the lesser evil as well.
Go ahead! Please let us know when you get it!
And you are stuck in a trap you can't get out of because you are willing to trade a small short term gain in safety for a loss in long term liberty. Those massive debts both Trump and Biden ran up dramatically tightened the bindings on us all, crushing our future. Trump did more damage to liberty in 2020 than any President in the last 50 years. You can make excuses "he didn't know", etc. but that was his job to find out and lead. He failed terribly.
My 2016 vote for Darrell Castle was not only a vote against the greater evil, it was a vote against the lesser evil as well.
CONGRESS does appropriations! The president does not and that is how its supposed to be.
I've got it right now.
Sure you do! :thud:
You think it's a nice turkey and swiss on the brioche roll but it's really the same crap sandwich everyone else is getting.
I just checked and the Constitution Party only has ballot access so far in 13 states. That is pretty pitiful and so darn disheartening.
No, it's not... I make my own. I have gone my own way. I have no interest in crap sandwiches or turd burgers. You want me to show up, you'd better improve the dang menu!
CONGRESS does appropriations! The president does not and that is how its supposed to be.
Their convention is in April. There is no reason to push for a spot on the ballot this far out, especially when the candidate is unknown.
Right! You carry on with that delusion!
Yes, the convention is in April, but that gives them little time to qualify in all 50 states. Deadlines in states to get onto the ballot have to be met by different dates. 6-7 months isn't a whole lot of time.
You forget that the Republicans controlled both houses when Trump was elected for two years. They spent giving in to Nancy's priorities even though she was in the minority.
In addition, Trump had a veto pen. He did nothing on spending.
Trump was the one sending out checks to everyone one making sure his name was on them when his administration shut everything down. He was the one demanding interest rates be lowered even further. They were far too low far too long.
You forget that the Republicans controlled both houses when Trump was elected for two years. They spent giving in to Nancy's priorities even though she was in the minority.
In addition, Trump had a veto pen. He did nothing on spending.
Trump was the one sending out checks to everyone one making sure his name was on them when his administration shut everything down. He was the one demanding interest rates be lowered even further. They were far too low far too long.
They don't have the funds to run long campaigns. It is what it is.
But you'll just continue to vote for that because the alternative is worse... In the end, worse is what you're voting for.
That is really important to remember. Trump wasted those two years. Nothing was accomplished AND once again I'll bring up the fact that Cruz kept encouraging him to get the wall built. We all know that Trump waited till a week or so before the new Congress was seated to start pushing for a border wall. There was no way that Nancy was going to allow him to succeed on his promise of building a wall. He had to dance around hoops to get funding; he got money to replace existing dilapidated fencing but very little new fencing was built. Sure, he finally got more $$ and fence was purchased but by then azzhole Joe put a quick end to all of that.
I don't forget a damned thing @DB particularly the parts where the House and Senate sat on their hands for two years letting Trump slowly twist in the wind. Making sure their inside the beltway con game continued was FAR more important than doing anything for the American people!
I'm not talking about campaigning, I'm talking about just getting onto the ballot. As I mentioned up thread, a 3rd party needs to meet different requirements, come up with more money and meet different deadlines in each state than those of the DEM party or GOP. I would be thrilled if for the first time in history the Constitution party had ballot access in all 50 states.
I have long thought that Trump would pick Ben Carson as his Veep, but lately I am thinking Tulsi. Trump simply cannot resist a hot-looking, media-savvy babe, regardless of her political viewpoint.
My thoughts as well.
I've grown tired of this circular argument. :seeya:
And I will laugh and point my finger. And laugh sommore.
I have long thought that Trump would pick Ben Carson as his Veep, but lately I am thinking Tulsi. Trump simply cannot resist a hot-looking, media-savvy babe, regardless of her political viewpoint.
But . . . but . . . but it's the lesser of two evils.
I have long thought that Trump would pick Ben Carson as his Veep, but lately I am thinking Tulsi. Trump simply cannot resist a hot-looking, media-savvy babe, regardless of her political viewpoint.If you're right, then why wouldn't Trump choose Kari Lake?
In listening to and reading his announcement of choices for his VP pick he specifically mentioned that his VP would be carefully picked and they would be capable of running the country. The only one that I think is capable on day one of running the country is Noem. Scott, Gabbard, Vivek all lack in experience.
IMHO if he selects any of the later named, he will lose the general without any doubts. His VP is either going to make him or break him.
I've grown tired of this circular argument. :seeya:
We truly do get the government we deserve. *****rollingeyes*****
The only circular argument here is the one you continue to embrace.
That would be something. Trump/Gabbard. Not one, but two Democrats on the Republican ticket.
In 2016 I refused to vote for Trump but he was elected despite my protestations and did the best he could given all that was thrown at him for four years. So much so that I believed, along with many millions of others that he deserved re-election and voted that way but the election was stolen (81 million votes for Biden? Give me a break) I refuse to let that stand and will vote FOR Donald John Trump in 2024 despite everything the swamp continues to throw at him. End of story.
We are now spending $400 billion per year just to pay the interest on the debt that Trump accumulated after just four years in office.
Noem should watch her topknot and keep her powder dry.
If she climbs aboard the Tump train, she's dead to me.
Yeah. His martyr shtick is strong.
They're not after me, they're after you. I'm just in the way.
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Well, all I can say is go back and watch Noem's speech before Trump's rally at Rushmore when BLM and others were blocking people from attending. Her speech was pretty darn impressive and obviously she has great deep reasons for believing in Trump. She's been one heck of a governor.
One of my thoughts through all of this -- Trump is fighting to get the nomination and the GOP seated in the WH -- If that should somehow happen, I believe he will step down after his first term, perhaps even sooner. Just an idea that has come to mind.
No, I am not in anyway trying to change your mind @roamer_1 Nor have I any intention of voting for him -- however, IF he should name Noem as his VP, I may have to really do some soul searching and not vote for her. Anyone else that he's named so far, not a chance.
My dream ticket was DeSantis/Noem or Noem/DeSantis.
Weren't you just complaining about how Trump couldn't get anything done even with a Republican House and Senate?
THIS is what is known as 'circular reasoning'.
It's also true! If they can do it to him, they can do it to anyone! Roy Moore never had a chance.
If you're right, then why wouldn't Trump choose Kari Lake?
Kari used to WORK in the media. Meanwhile, today, she is the MAGAest of all the MAGA types who claim to be MAGA!
Me, I'd prefer Ben Carson.
But again, based off your description, I fail to see how Lake wouldn't be considered waaay above ex-recently-Demoncrat Tulsi.
MAGA ain't gonna trust Tulsi.
How so @Hoodat ? The house and senate sitting on their hands for two years is just one part of all that was done to sink President Trump and you are saying move on!
How so @Hoodat ? The house and senate sitting on their hands for two years is just one part of all that was done to sink President Trump and you are saying move on!
You do know that Kari Lake campaigned, to the point of going door to door for Obama.
If Trump wasn't in the way back then, how do you expect him to be in the way now?I have plainly stated my intentions @Hoodat you do whatever the hell you like but I'm very sure there are more like me than you and Donald John Trump is again going to be president again in 2025. Or there is going to be full blown civil war in this land. I hope I'm wrong but I don't think I am.
I have plainly stated my intentions @Hoodat you do whatever the hell you like but I'm very sure there are more like me than you and Donald John Trump is again going to be president again in 2025. Or there is going to be full blown civil war in this land. I hope I'm wrong but I don't think I am.
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Was he in the way of Fauci and Brix?
He barely won it in 2016. By barely it was 47.3% to Hillary's 47%Yeah, the 'fix' was in for that one, too, they just underestimated Trump's ability to get votes against Hillary.
Actually I am praying for a miracle. Also I continue to pray that the Lord God Jesus Christ stops the evil that keeps prevailing in this country.:amen:
If you're right, then why wouldn't Trump choose Kari Lake?
Kari used to WORK in the media. Meanwhile, today, she is the MAGAest of all the MAGA types who claim to be MAGA!
Me, I'd prefer Ben Carson.
But again, based off your description, I fail to see how Lake wouldn't be considered waaay above ex-recently-Demoncrat Tulsi.
MAGA ain't gonna trust Tulsi.
Me, I'd prefer Ben Carson.
Was he in the way of Fauci and Brix?
I very much like Ben Carson, but he's yet another septuagenarian. That's a 'no' for me, Dawg.But, WHY?
But, WHY?
Ben Carson was one of the world's leading neorosurgeons-- a literal brain surgeon. He is very into physical fitness. If you watch and listen to his RECENT interviews, he speaks fluidly, eloquently, never lost for words or stammering or checking notes.
I don't want a neurosurgeon. I want someone who knows how to balance a checkbook.Excuse me?
Excuse me?
Ben Carson ran one of our largest federal cabinet agencies and turned it totally around--from a wasteful, inefficient leftist-ran money sink into an effective, lean agency wherein over 40% more of every dollar spent by HUD was used for its intended and stated purposes, rather than wasted on salaries, pensions, new furniture, new computers, etc
And he only ran for President because Obama pissed him off so much as a black man that he frankly wanted to show Obama what a GOOD President looked like.
He's done a LOT more than just balance checkbooks... :/
Ben Carson was not mentioned as one of Trump's VP picks. His picks are; Noem, Vivek, Tulsi, and Scott. All poor picks in my opinion other than Noem.
Ben Carson was not mentioned as one of Trump's VP picks. His picks are; Noem, Vivek, Tulsi, and Scott. All poor picks in my opinion other than Noem.I'd have to go with Noem first out of that list, too.
I'd have to go with Noem first out of that list, too.
I'd cross my fingers and choose Vivek second. Hoping, gambling, that he'd actually be as radically Originalist-Constitutionalist as he claimed to be.
Cuz both Tulsi and Scott score very low in those areas.
I'd have to go with Noem first out of that list, too.
I'd cross my fingers and choose Vivek second. Hoping, gambling, that he'd actually be as radically Originalist-Constitutionalist as he claimed to be.
Cuz both Tulsi and Scott score very low in those areas.
Tulsi is an unrepentant Democrat, who says a few things we like while keeping her leftist card hidden. Sort of like RFK Jr.
Vivek? You're kidding correct? Neither of his parents were born in this country; that's a big red flag to me and it's a constitutional issue as well. Nothing is known about him other than he aligned himself with Soros for $$$. The Soros connection alone should be a huge red flag. He's a slick, smooth talker and would be perfect for a chewing gum commercial. He's another O'Bammy.
Understand me when I say this. I ain't throwin laurels at Gabbard and RFK Jr. But I find their presence encouraging. For a LONG TIME there have been no moderate Democrats to be found at all. To suddenly find a strain that is far right of their liberal friends - Still left of center, mind you - But I find that to be constructive... And an indication that the hard lock the liberals have had on the Democrat party may be beginning to shift.
Not sayin, jussayin. :shrug:
Vivek? You're kidding correct? Neither of his parents were born in this country; that's a big red flag to me and it's a constitutional issue as well. Nothing is known about him other than he aligned himself with Soros for $$$. The Soros connection alone should be a huge red flag. He's a slick, smooth talker and would be perfect for a chewing gum commercial. He's another O'Bammy.
They say they are, but words are dirt cheap when it comes to politicians.
Vivek? You're kidding correct? Neither of his parents were born in this country; that's a big red flag to me and it's a constitutional issue as well. Nothing is known about him other than he aligned himself with Soros for $$$. The Soros connection alone should be a huge red flag. He's a slick, smooth talker and would be perfect for a chewing gum commercial. He's another O'Bammy.People change. It'd be hard to imagine Vivek saying what he has, promoting the policies he has, and then getting elected and trying to govern as a Leftist.
People change. It'd be hard to imagine Vivek saying what he has, promoting the policies he has, and then getting elected and trying to govern as a Leftist.
People change. It'd be hard to imagine Vivek saying what he has, promoting the policies he has, and then getting elected and trying to govern as a Leftist.
His voters wouldn't let him get away with it. He'd quickly become the most hated man ever, protested and heckled everywhere he went. All while the Soros crowd continued demonizing him as being Hitler, and running far-left loons against him in his next election.
I DO care about legal citizenship, though. Was he born to two legal-citizen parents or not?
If not, we're down to Tulsi and Timmy, and I'd choose neither. NEVER Tim Scott so long as Dr.Ben Carson is still breathing.
O'Bastard proved that N, B and C are dead letters.
Our Republic is now a dead letter!
Morbi nec remedia ferre possumus.
Morbi nec remedia ferre possumus.
My Latin's a little rusty, but that means 'Ain't no fixin a dead possum', for all you folks in Rio Linda...
It says we can stand neither the disease nor the cure.
First uttered about 2,000 years ago by a Roman historian.
My Latin's a little rusty, but that means 'Ain't no fixin a dead possum', for all you folks in Rio Linda...
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Hey, I resemble that remark. Proud graduate of Rio Linda Senior High 1975! We loved Rush as it kept people from moving there.
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Hey, I resemble that remark. Proud graduate of Rio Linda Senior High 1975! We loved Rush as it kept people from moving there.
As much as we all admired Limbaugh. One fact is for certain. Donald Trump would not have won the primaries in 2016 without him. And that's on him.