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Title: (Updated, see first line of body in red) Leaked Spreadsheet Shows Donald Trump And Family Receiving Payments From DNC
Post by: ABX on July 25, 2016, 02:44:07 pm
Updated-- The spreadsheet has been validated but it isn't DNC payments to Trump. They were sending a copy of Trump's filings to each other. This was a rabbit hole). Anonymous has been posting this on Reddit and their other forums. They apparently got this from a leak along with the emails. Because this is from Anonymous, I would take this as not verified (but if the same leak as the Wikileak documents, we can be pretty confident about it). If the content threads are true, this was an attachment in some of the Wikileak emails.  \Updated- this did come from the DNC Leak from Wikileaks that has already been validated- https://wikileaks.org/dnc-emails/fileid/10880/5421

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From the site, which is now down: Leaked Spreadsheet Shows Donald Trump And Family Receiving Payments From DNC

The DNC is going to be having a hard time explaining this one, how did Donald J. Trump and his son, Trump Jr., end up on a DNC spreadsheet of expenses?

DNCTrump1 - imgur - http://imgur.com/RV5nWTX

DNCTrump2 -imgut - http://imgur.com/cqmsYND

This file was downloaded from Wikileaks and is available here for you to examine for yourself (Leaked DNC Spreadsheet). If you go to the properties section of the spreadsheet you will see it was created “05/21/2016, 02:48:09, Miller, Lindsey”. Lindsey Miller is a representative of the DNC and keeps spreadsheets of fundraising and expenditures for them. Her name is very prevalent when searching the leaked DNC documents.

The expenses range from payment for office supplies to travel expenses for Trump Jr..

Progressive Party News reached out to Lindsey Miller, MillerL@dnc.org, and asked her to explain why why Donald Trumps name appears so many times. We are holding our breath and waiting on a response.

https://www.reddit.com/r/uncensorednews/comments/4ub4k1/leaked_spreadsheet_shows_donald_trump_and_family/



(http://i.imgur.com/QulBZNi.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/jktGXhV.jpg)
Title: Re: Leaked Spreadsheet Shows Donald Trump And Family Receiving Payments From DNC
Post by: catfish1957 on July 25, 2016, 02:47:43 pm
Holy S----!!!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: Leaked Spreadsheet Shows Donald Trump And Family Receiving Payments From DNC
Post by: EC on July 25, 2016, 02:48:12 pm
Verifying it will be a real bitch, and it smells of a hit job right now.
Title: Re: Leaked Spreadsheet Shows Donald Trump And Family Receiving Payments From DNC
Post by: ABX on July 25, 2016, 02:49:30 pm
Right now, this is still in the Anonymous/Wikileaks hackersphere and hasn't hit any major news sources yet, it is that new.

(http://i2.wp.com/progressiveparty.news/wp-content/uploads/2016/07/DNCTrump1.gif?resize=640%2C231)
(http://i2.wp.com/progressiveparty.news/wp-content/uploads/2016/07/DNCTrump2.gif?resize=640%2C232)
Title: Re: Leaked Spreadsheet Shows Donald Trump And Family Receiving Payments From DNC
Post by: catfish1957 on July 25, 2016, 02:49:43 pm
Verifying it will be a real bitch, and it smells of a hit job right now.

Note to the duped.   You bought him.
Title: Re: Leaked Spreadsheet Shows Donald Trump And Family Receiving Payments From DNC
Post by: ABX on July 25, 2016, 02:51:05 pm
Verifying it will be a real bitch, and it smells of a hit job right now.

I'm trying to find out what leaked email it was attached to and validate it from there. That would be a pretty good confirmation as the DNC not only isn't denying those emails, they are reacting to them in a way that validates them.
Title: Re: Leaked Spreadsheet Shows Donald Trump And Family Receiving Payments From DNC
Post by: Just_Victor on July 25, 2016, 02:52:11 pm
Verifying it will be a real bitch, and it smells of a hit job right now.

"If it seems to good to be true, it probably is."

Title: Re: Leaked Spreadsheet Shows Donald Trump And Family Receiving Payments From DNC
Post by: ABX on July 25, 2016, 02:52:29 pm
Spoke too soon, found it.

It was an attachment in some of the DNC leaked emails- not from a third party but from the big DNC leak. That is a bit of validation being that it came from that source.

https://wikileaks.org/dnc-emails/fileid/10880/5421
Title: Re: Leaked Spreadsheet Shows Donald Trump And Family Receiving Payments From DNC
Post by: EC on July 25, 2016, 02:53:59 pm
I'm trying to find out what leaked email it was attached to and validate it from there. That would be a pretty good confirmation as the DNC not only isn't denying those emails, they are reacting to them in a way that validates them.

If anyone can validate it, it's you.  :beer:
Title: Re: Leaked Spreadsheet Shows Donald Trump And Family Receiving Payments From DNC
Post by: ABX on July 25, 2016, 02:54:46 pm
If anyone can validate it, it's you.  :beer:

Done, this was an attachment in the leaked DNC emails that have been validated and sourced directly from Wikileaks.
https://wikileaks.org/dnc-emails/fileid/10880/5421
Title: Re: Leaked Spreadsheet Shows Donald Trump And Family Receiving Payments From DNC
Post by: mystery-ak on July 25, 2016, 02:55:58 pm
Remember the Dems will try anything to bring Trump down.....this needs to be verified!!
Title: Re: Leaked Spreadsheet Shows Donald Trump And Family Receiving Payments From DNC
Post by: ABX on July 25, 2016, 02:56:20 pm
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https://wikileaks.org/dnc-emails/fileid/10880/5421   If you go to the properties section of the spreadsheet you will see it was created “05/21/2016, 02:48:09, Miller, Lindsey”.  Lindsey Miller is a representative of the DNC and keeps spreadsheets of fundraising and expenditures for them.  Her name is very prevalent when searching the leaked DNC documents.
Title: Re: Leaked Spreadsheet Shows Donald Trump And Family Receiving Payments From DNC
Post by: Luis Gonzalez on July 25, 2016, 02:57:03 pm
Curioser and curioser.
Title: Re: Leaked Spreadsheet Shows Donald Trump And Family Receiving Payments From DNC
Post by: ABX on July 25, 2016, 02:57:21 pm
Remember the Dems will try anything to bring Trump down.....this needs to be verified!!

Look at the Above the Fold wikileak research- DNC emails show they were propping Trump up and wanted to run against him. This spreadsheet was attached to an email dated during the primaries when they were boosting him.
Title: Re: Leaked Spreadsheet Shows Donald Trump And Family Receiving Payments From DNC
Post by: EC on July 25, 2016, 02:57:52 pm
That is my concern. Anyone can create a spreadsheet and piss around with author/date stamps.
Title: Re: Leaked Spreadsheet Shows Donald Trump And Family Receiving Payments From DNC
Post by: GrouchoTex on July 25, 2016, 02:57:58 pm
To semi-quote Blazing Saddles, "The jig is up.........
Title: Re: Leaked Spreadsheet Shows Donald Trump And Family Receiving Payments From DNC
Post by: catfish1957 on July 25, 2016, 02:58:03 pm
Remember the Dems will try anything to bring Trump down.....this needs to be verified!!

Am I reading this backwards?  Aren't these payments from the DNC to the Trumps?
Title: Re: Leaked Spreadsheet Shows Donald Trump And Family Receiving Payments From DNC
Post by: guitar4jesus on July 25, 2016, 02:59:06 pm
Thanks for this @AbaraXas!
Title: Re: Leaked Spreadsheet Shows Donald Trump And Family Receiving Payments From DNC
Post by: ABX on July 25, 2016, 02:59:20 pm
That is my concern. Anyone can create a spreadsheet and piss around with author/date stamps.

Very true, but what makes this appear not that way is where they were attached, a DNC internal email from during the primaries
Title: Re: Leaked Spreadsheet Shows Donald Trump And Family Receiving Payments From DNC
Post by: Just_Victor on July 25, 2016, 02:59:21 pm


Looks bad for Trump.  But it should be noted, if you know what you're doing, it's not hard to monkey with the properties of a document.

Title: Re: Leaked Spreadsheet Shows Donald Trump And Family Receiving Payments From DNC
Post by: Silver Pines on July 25, 2016, 03:00:31 pm
Steve Deace ‏@SteveDeaceShow  13h13 hours ago

Fascinating watching those I follow. Half going after #DNCLeaks the other half Putin-Trump connection. I think both are right.
Title: Re: Leaked Spreadsheet Shows Donald Trump And Family Receiving Payments From DNC
Post by: Half Vast Conspiracy on July 25, 2016, 03:03:06 pm
Anonymous has been posting this on Reddit and their other forums. They apparently got this from a leak along with the emails. Because this is from Anonymous, I would take this as not verified (but if the same leak as the Wikileak documents, we can be pretty confident about it). If the content threads are true, this was an attachment in some of the Wikileak emails.  Updated- this did come from the DNC Leak from Wikileaks that has already been validated- https://wikileaks.org/dnc-emails/fileid/10880/5421

There's very little to go on thus far.

Title: Re: Leaked Spreadsheet Shows Donald Trump And Family Receiving Payments From DNC
Post by: catfish1957 on July 25, 2016, 03:03:24 pm
Steve Deace ‏@SteveDeaceShow  13h13 hours ago

Fascinating watching those I follow. Half going after #DNCLeaks the other half Putin-Trump connection. I think both are right.

In my heart I don't want to believe that Trump would stoop to treason to win this election.

Wonder if anyone told DJT that colluding  with foreign powers to influence an election could land him in Leavenworth?
Title: Re: Leaked Spreadsheet Shows Donald Trump And Family Receiving Payments From DNC
Post by: ABX on July 25, 2016, 03:03:53 pm
This may be a rabbit hole, but what is interesting is this does not look good for either party. If this were faked and somehow included in the Wikileaks email list, I would suspect this came from a Bernie supporter as this damns both the DNC and Trump.

Because Anonymous isn't a fan of either major party, there is a chance they could have planted this in there- they have the capability. So keep that in mind.
Title: Re: Leaked Spreadsheet Shows Donald Trump And Family Receiving Payments From DNC
Post by: Chieftain on July 25, 2016, 03:04:20 pm
Large bubbles in small beer.  Without context or verification, I could produce any Excel spreadsheet you want showing expenditures to Generalissimo Francisco Franco (he's still dead...).

Just a diversion at this point. 

 :smokin:
Title: Re: Leaked Spreadsheet Shows Donald Trump And Family Receiving Payments From DNC
Post by: skeeter on July 25, 2016, 03:05:08 pm
Remember the Dems will try anything to bring Trump down.....this needs to be verified!!

How can this be verified, since it would be in the interests of its very source that it be verified as authentic?
Title: Re: Leaked Spreadsheet Shows Donald Trump And Family Receiving Payments From DNC
Post by: ABX on July 25, 2016, 03:05:15 pm
In my heart I don't want to believe that Trump would stoop to treason to win this election.

Wonder if anyone told DJT that colluding  with foreign powers to influence an election could land him in Leavenworth?

He has been half bragging on Twitter that Putin helped him.

Title: Re: Leaked Spreadsheet Shows Donald Trump And Family Receiving Payments From DNC
Post by: ABX on July 25, 2016, 03:06:24 pm
How can this be verified, since it would be in the interests of its very source that it be verified as authentic?

The best verification I have right now, and probably the only verification we can get is that it was part of the DNC Leak from Wikileaks, so it was an attachment in a lot of DNC emails they are acting as though they are legit (such as firing DWS).
Title: Re: Leaked Spreadsheet Shows Donald Trump And Family Receiving Payments From DNC
Post by: catfish1957 on July 25, 2016, 03:06:46 pm
Large bubbles in small beer.  Without context or verification, I could produce any Excel spreadsheet you want showing expenditures to Generalissimo Francisco Franco (he's still dead...).

Just a diversion at this point. 

 :smokin:

You are right, but this at least establishes a lead to a paper or elctronic trail to verify  it,
Title: Re: Leaked Spreadsheet Shows Donald Trump And Family Receiving Payments From DNC
Post by: ABX on July 25, 2016, 03:08:10 pm
Because this still is sitting in the Anonymous / Wikileaks universe, it may be good to just sit on this for a while and see how / if the media or either party react. That may be the most telling.
Title: Re: Leaked Spreadsheet Shows Donald Trump And Family Receiving Payments From DNC
Post by: GrouchoTex on July 25, 2016, 03:09:09 pm
Could be a fake, it has happened before.
Title: Re: Leaked Spreadsheet Shows Donald Trump And Family Receiving Payments From DNC
Post by: guitar4jesus on July 25, 2016, 03:10:14 pm
Because this still is sitting in the Anonymous / Wikileaks universe, it may be good to just sit on this for a while and see how / if the media or either party react. That may be the most telling.

Yup!
Title: Re: Leaked Spreadsheet Shows Donald Trump And Family Receiving Payments From DNC
Post by: Idiot on July 25, 2016, 03:10:21 pm
Trump is stupid, but not even he is this stupid.
Title: Re: Leaked Spreadsheet Shows Donald Trump And Family Receiving Payments From DNC
Post by: bilo on July 25, 2016, 03:12:50 pm
That is my concern. Anyone can create a spreadsheet and piss around with author/date stamps.

I think this is a scam. Trump may be a lot of things but nobody is so stupid as to take money from the other party.

I'm not seeing anything about this anywhere else.
Title: Re: Leaked Spreadsheet Shows Donald Trump And Family Receiving Payments From DNC
Post by: ABX on July 25, 2016, 03:13:07 pm
More discussion on some Anon forums (language alert) to watch as they work on validating and following the paper trail on it.
http://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/82494106/
Title: Re: Leaked Spreadsheet Shows Donald Trump And Family Receiving Payments From DNC
Post by: Bigun on July 25, 2016, 03:13:35 pm
Could be a fake, it has happened before.

Very likely true and doesn't surprise me on bit! In fact it further make the Trump is a stalking horse for Hillary and always has been case!

Title: Re: Leaked Spreadsheet Shows Donald Trump And Family Receiving Payments From DNC
Post by: ABX on July 25, 2016, 03:14:49 pm
I think this is a scam. Trump may be a lot of things but nobody is so stupid as to take money from the other party.

I'm not seeing anything about this anywhere else.

True unless there was no expectation this would get out (just like the emails this came from). No one thought the DNC would be so stupid as to go after Bernie in such an overt way and document it in emails like they did. No one thought they would discuss how to support and prop up Trump in the primaries in the emails like they did.
Title: Re: Leaked Spreadsheet Shows Donald Trump And Family Receiving Payments From DNC
Post by: GrouchoTex on July 25, 2016, 03:16:42 pm
Very likely true and doesn't surprise me on bit! In fact it further make the Trump is a stalking horse for Hillary and always has been case!

I wouldn't be shocked if this were true, but I'd like someone involved to admit it, one way or the other.
As someone posted earlier, "It seems too good to be true".

We have thought that there was a possibility that he could be a plant, and this would verify that.
Title: Re: Leaked Spreadsheet Shows Donald Trump And Family Receiving Payments From DNC
Post by: Bigun on July 25, 2016, 03:18:53 pm
True unless there was no expectation this would get out (just like the emails this came from). No one thought the DNC would be so stupid as to go after Bernie in such an overt way and document it in emails like they did. No one thought they would discuss how to support and prop up Trump in the primaries in the emails like they did.

They know that they are immune from any legal concerns and thus got sloppy!  They are NOT immune from public opinion and that is going to sting them!
Title: Re: Leaked Spreadsheet Shows Donald Trump And Family Receiving Payments From DNC
Post by: Half Vast Conspiracy on July 25, 2016, 03:19:10 pm
Large bubbles in small beer.  Without context or verification, I could produce any Excel spreadsheet you want showing expenditures to Generalissimo Francisco Franco (he's still dead...).

Just a diversion at this point. 


@Chieftain +1
Title: Re: Leaked Spreadsheet Shows Donald Trump And Family Receiving Payments From DNC
Post by: bilo on July 25, 2016, 03:19:41 pm
True unless there was no expectation this would get out (just like the emails this came from). No one thought the DNC would be so stupid as to go after Bernie in such an overt way and document it in emails like they did. No one thought they would discuss how to support and prop up Trump in the primaries in the emails like they did.

Crossing over and voting for him is expected, but supporting him financially? No way.
Title: Re: Leaked Spreadsheet Shows Donald Trump And Family Receiving Payments From DNC
Post by: XenaLee on July 25, 2016, 03:19:56 pm
Anonymous has been posting this on Reddit and their other forums. They apparently got this from a leak along with the emails. Because this is from Anonymous, I would take this as not verified (but if the same leak as the Wikileak documents, we can be pretty confident about it). If the content threads are true, this was an attachment in some of the Wikileak emails.  Updated- this did come from the DNC Leak from Wikileaks that has already been validated- https://wikileaks.org/dnc-emails/fileid/10880/5421

(http://i.imgur.com/QulBZNi.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/jktGXhV.jpg)

Ehhh.....surely (Shirley?).....

they couldn't be THAT stupid.

Could they?   :pondering:
Title: Re: Leaked Spreadsheet Shows Donald Trump And Family Receiving Payments From DNC
Post by: ABX on July 25, 2016, 03:20:48 pm
Here is a pro-Bernie group, Progressive Party news, that is doing a ton of research into this as well that is good to follow.
http://progressiveparty.news/

They are approaching it from the standpoint of the corrupt DNC colluding with the Republicans. (so the other direction basically).

Watch that for research and updates.
Title: Re: Leaked Spreadsheet Shows Donald Trump And Family Receiving Payments From DNC
Post by: bolobaby on July 25, 2016, 03:21:12 pm
Tip of the iceberg.

True or not, the amount of things they will throw at Trump between now and election will make the fake Cruz mistress story look laughable.

Trump is so vulnerable, he will be easy to implicate in soooo many bad dealings. By election, most Americans wouldn't answer the door if he showed up at it let alone vote for him.
Title: Re: Leaked Spreadsheet Shows Donald Trump And Family Receiving Payments From DNC
Post by: Bigun on July 25, 2016, 03:21:56 pm
I wouldn't be shocked if this were true, but I'd like someone involved to admit it, one way or the other.
As someone posted earlier, "It seems too good to be true".

We have thought that there was a possibility that he could be a plant, and this would verify that.

This is, and always has been, about only one thing.  Protecting the biggest criminal enterprise ever to grace this planet! The Clintoon Foundation which ALL of them are in up to their necks!
Title: Re: Leaked Spreadsheet Shows Donald Trump And Family Receiving Payments From DNC
Post by: guitar4jesus on July 25, 2016, 03:21:57 pm
True unless there was no expectation this would get out (just like the emails this came from). No one thought the DNC would be so stupid as to go after Bernie in such an overt way and document it in emails like they did. No one thought they would discuss how to support and prop up Trump in the primaries in the emails like they did.

Good points.
Title: Re: Leaked Spreadsheet Shows Donald Trump And Family Receiving Payments From DNC
Post by: Idiot on July 25, 2016, 03:22:39 pm
Since it's early and the spreadsheet fonts are sooooooooooo small...how much money are we talking about here to Trump?
Title: Re: Leaked Spreadsheet Shows Donald Trump And Family Receiving Payments From DNC
Post by: bilo on July 25, 2016, 03:23:02 pm
They know that they are immune from any legal concerns and thus got sloppy!  They are NOT immune from public opinion and that is going to sting them!

How so?

Trump is the nominee. We are stuck with him. If it costs him the election they win. If it's true and he still wins they win.

Title: Re: Leaked Spreadsheet Shows Donald Trump And Family Receiving Payments From DNC
Post by: ABX on July 25, 2016, 03:23:06 pm
Crossing over and voting for him is expected, but supporting him financially? No way.

There is another possible explanation, they were using properties he owned for events and paying for those and the services provided at the properties (itemized) like they would any property (ie, paying for Trump resort meeting rooms just like they would Hilton, etc).
Title: Re: Leaked Spreadsheet Shows Donald Trump And Family Receiving Payments From DNC
Post by: Bigun on July 25, 2016, 03:24:54 pm
Ehhh.....surely (Shirley?).....

they couldn't be THAT stupid.

Could they?   :pondering:

See my #38 above.  They are human!  Well almost!
Title: Re: Leaked Spreadsheet Shows Donald Trump And Family Receiving Payments From DNC
Post by: catfish1957 on July 25, 2016, 03:25:15 pm
Ehhh.....surely (Shirley?).....

they couldn't be THAT stupid.

Could they?   :pondering:

Wonder how quick it would be to secure a FOIA inquiry on this transaction?

Judicial Watch ......   are you listening?
Title: Re: Leaked Spreadsheet Shows Donald Trump And Family Receiving Payments From DNC
Post by: Bigun on July 25, 2016, 03:26:42 pm
How so?

Trump is the nominee. We are stuck with him. If it costs him the election they win. If it's true and he still wins they win.

B I N G O ! ! !

And the Clintoon Foundation keeps right on truckin!
Title: Re: Leaked Spreadsheet Shows Donald Trump And Family Receiving Payments From DNC
Post by: GrouchoTex on July 25, 2016, 03:27:11 pm
There is another possible explanation, they were using properties he owned for events and paying for those and the services provided at the properties (itemized) like they would any property (ie, paying for Trump resort meeting rooms just like they would Hilton, etc).

Of course, this could have been manipulated, but the entries are under the "loans" tab and "in kind" tab.
Title: Re: Leaked Spreadsheet Shows Donald Trump And Family Receiving Payments From DNC
Post by: guitar4jesus on July 25, 2016, 03:29:14 pm
There is another possible explanation, they were using properties he owned for events and paying for those and the services provided at the properties (itemized) like they would any property (ie, paying for Trump resort meeting rooms just like they would Hilton, etc).

Yes, that could be it.  Not sure why they wouldn't be itemize as Trump Resort or some such....  Seems that would make more sense.
Title: Re: Leaked Spreadsheet Shows Donald Trump And Family Receiving Payments From DNC
Post by: ABX on July 25, 2016, 03:29:40 pm
Since it's early and the spreadsheet fonts are sooooooooooo small...how much money are we talking about here to Trump?

Good question. Here is a direct link to the Spreadsheet. The tabs for expenses have the smaller amounts (under 50K), however the tab for 'loans' have the really Yuge numbers.
https://wikileaks.org/dnc-emails/fileid/10880/5421

IF true (big IF), if you sum column U, that is $43 Million. Almost what Trump 'loaned' to his campaign for his primary run. (which of course, because he won't release his tax returns or personal financial documents we have no clue where the money he 'loaned' his campaign came from to validate this).

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Title: Re: Leaked Spreadsheet Shows Donald Trump And Family Receiving Payments From DNC
Post by: ABX on July 25, 2016, 03:30:45 pm
Yes, that could be it.  Not sure why they wouldn't be itemize as Trump Resort or some such....  Seems that would make more sense.

Except for the 'Loans' tab. See link and data in post above this. That's a different story.
Title: Re: Leaked Spreadsheet Shows Donald Trump And Family Receiving Payments From DNC
Post by: EC on July 25, 2016, 03:32:18 pm
Why are all the dates for New Years Eve this year?

edit - all but one, which has the date 31/12/2015
Title: Re: Leaked Spreadsheet Shows Donald Trump And Family Receiving Payments From DNC
Post by: kevindavis007 on July 25, 2016, 03:32:20 pm
Verifying it will be a real bitch, and it smells of a hit job right now.


Exactly..
Title: Re: Leaked Spreadsheet Shows Donald Trump And Family Receiving Payments From DNC
Post by: TomSea on July 25, 2016, 03:33:10 pm
The above website is Reddit; interestingly, Trump is appearing on Reddit Wednesday.

http://townhall.com/tipsheet/christinerousselle/2016/07/25/donald-trump-to-do-a-reddit-ama-on-wednesday-n2197484

I've read the website before but not often.

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OP sourced to reddit and then, "progressive party.news"
Title: Re: Leaked Spreadsheet Shows Donald Trump And Family Receiving Payments From DNC
Post by: Half Vast Conspiracy on July 25, 2016, 03:33:56 pm
I think this is a scam. Trump may be a lot of things but nobody is so stupid as to take money from the other party.

I'm not seeing anything about this anywhere else.

@bilo
I'm sure that, at this moment, some enterprising journalist is calling the other names contained in the spreadsheet...

Title: Re: Leaked Spreadsheet Shows Donald Trump And Family Receiving Payments From DNC
Post by: Silver Pines on July 25, 2016, 03:34:18 pm
In my heart I don't want to believe that Trump would stoop to treason to win this election.

Wonder if anyone told DJT that colluding  with foreign powers to influence an election could land him in Leavenworth?

I can't stand Trump and I have no expectations of him morally, so honestly I'm not looking to try and find something positive about him.  Personally I don't believe it would be beneath him.  His motivations are entirely based on self-interest.

If they did tell him something like that, I imagine he would think he's too smart to get caught.  A few days ago, I posted a link to an article which said that Trump's father told him "you're a god" as he was growing up, and one of his ex-wives said Trump believes it to this day.
Title: Re: Leaked Spreadsheet Shows Donald Trump And Family Receiving Payments From DNC
Post by: Neverdul on July 25, 2016, 03:34:37 pm
This looks to me like a download of the details of Trump's FEC filing from earlier this year. 


I'll have to see if I can find it and bump against what is posted here, but I remember looking at it because of the controversy that arose because of how many Trump owned businesses were being paid by the campaign along with reimbursements to family members that gave the appearances of some double dipping (getting credit for an in-kind contribution while also being reimbursed).

I'm guessing it was of interest to the DNC for opposition research.
Title: Re: Leaked Spreadsheet Shows Donald Trump And Family Receiving Payments From DNC
Post by: ABX on July 25, 2016, 03:35:30 pm
Why are all the dates for New Years Eve this year?

edit - all but one, which has the date 31/12/2015

End of year reconciliation.
Title: Re: Leaked Spreadsheet Shows Donald Trump And Family Receiving Payments From DNC
Post by: GrouchoTex on July 25, 2016, 03:35:37 pm
I may crack a few jokes about this, but I won't believe this until it can be verified.
Title: Re: Leaked Spreadsheet Shows Donald Trump And Family Receiving Payments From DNC
Post by: Ghost Bear on July 25, 2016, 03:36:34 pm
Bumping this to follow later...  curiouser and curiouser, as they say...
Title: Re: Leaked Spreadsheet Shows Donald Trump And Family Receiving Payments From DNC
Post by: Free Vulcan on July 25, 2016, 03:37:49 pm
Good question. Here is a direct link to the Spreadsheet. The tabs for expenses have the smaller amounts (under 50K), however the tab for 'loans' have the really Yuge numbers.
https://wikileaks.org/dnc-emails/fileid/10880/5421

IF true (big IF), if you sum column U, that is $43 Million. Almost what Trump 'loaned' to his campaign for his primary run. (which of course, because he won't release his tax returns or personal financial documents we have no clue where the money he 'loaned' his campaign came from to validate this).

That is a big sum of money that can't readily be explained by it being say, payment for usage of Trump owned goods or services. Even if we weren't talking a loan here, which is a bit suspicious and damning on it's own. So if this spreadsheet is legit, there is a great deal of splainin' to do.
Title: Re: Leaked Spreadsheet Shows Donald Trump And Family Receiving Payments From DNC
Post by: EC on July 25, 2016, 03:39:04 pm
I may crack a few jokes about this, but I won't believe this until it can be verified.

One thing I really do like about TBR - verify first, then use it to score points is the general rule.
Title: Re: Leaked Spreadsheet Shows Donald Trump And Family Receiving Payments From DNC
Post by: guitar4jesus on July 25, 2016, 03:39:27 pm
This looks to me like a download of the details of Trump's FEC filing from earlier this year. 


I'll have to see if I can find it and bump against what is posted here, but I remember looking at it because of the controversy that arose because of how many Trump owned businesses were being paid by the campaign along with reimbursements to family members that gave the appearances of some double dipping (getting credit for an in-kind contribution while also being reimbursed).

I'm guessing it was of interest to the DNC for opposition research.

@Neverdul @AbaraXas

You are correct.  That is what this is.

http://www.fec.gov/fecviewer/CandidateCommitteeDetail.do?tabIndex=1&candidateCommitteeId=P80001571 (http://www.fec.gov/fecviewer/CandidateCommitteeDetail.do?tabIndex=1&candidateCommitteeId=P80001571)
Title: Re: Leaked Spreadsheet Shows Donald Trump And Family Receiving Payments From DNC
Post by: wolfcreek on July 25, 2016, 03:44:11 pm
Large bubbles in small beer.  Without context or verification, I could produce any Excel spreadsheet you want showing expenditures to Generalissimo Francisco Franco (he's still dead...).

Just a diversion at this point. 

 :smokin:
 

Meanwhile....

http://dailycaller.com/2016/07/24/leaked-dnc-documents-show-plans-to-reward-big-donors-with-federal-appointments/
Title: Re: Leaked Spreadsheet Shows Donald Trump And Family Receiving Payments From DNC
Post by: LMAO on July 25, 2016, 03:45:13 pm
One thing I really do like about TBR - verify first, then use it to score points is the general rule.

Uh huh. Leave the tabloid accusations to Trump

 But if it turns out to be legitimate his supporters are going to have a real tough time spinning it
Title: Re: Leaked Spreadsheet Shows Donald Trump And Family Receiving Payments From DNC
Post by: don-o on July 25, 2016, 03:48:25 pm
This looks to me like a download of the details of Trump's FEC filing from earlier this year.   

well done!
Title: Re: Leaked Spreadsheet Shows Donald Trump And Family Receiving Payments From DNC
Post by: catfish1957 on July 25, 2016, 03:51:10 pm
Uh huh.

 But if it turns out to be legitimate his supporters are going to have a real tough time spinning it

Don't worry....  The Freeper Mother Ship is working OT on it right now.

(http://img1.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20130423200453/alienfilm/images/4/4f/Mothership.jpg)
Title: Re: Leaked Spreadsheet Shows Donald Trump And Family Receiving Payments From DNC
Post by: ABX on July 25, 2016, 03:59:46 pm
@Neverdul @AbaraXas

You are correct.  That is what this is.

http://www.fec.gov/fecviewer/CandidateCommitteeDetail.do?tabIndex=1&candidateCommitteeId=P80001571 (http://www.fec.gov/fecviewer/CandidateCommitteeDetail.do?tabIndex=1&candidateCommitteeId=P80001571)

Boom, good catch. OK, if everyone is fine, I will either delete or update the title.

(for those who didn't follow this- the spreadsheet is legit and validated, but it isn't the DNC's expenses, it is Trump's expenses they were sending).
Title: Re: (Updated, see first line of body in red) Leaked Spreadsheet Shows Donald Trump And Family Receiving Payments From DNC
Post by: ABX on July 25, 2016, 04:04:55 pm
I've updated the title and body. I will lock the thread so no one spends any more time on it.