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Title: Donald Trump 'Will Not Accept' even If Ted Cruz Endorses Him
Post by: SirLinksALot on July 22, 2016, 04:29:51 pm
SOURCE: ABC NEWS

URL: http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/donald-trump-accept-ted-cruz-endorses/story?id=40801990 (http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/donald-trump-accept-ted-cruz-endorses/story?id=40801990)

by:  VERONICA STRACQUALURSI ADAM KELSEY NOAH FITZGEREL 



Thanking his volunteers in Cleveland a day after the Republican National Convention wrapped, GOP presidential nominee Donald Trump today slammed Ted Cruz's Wednesday night speech and said he “will not accept” if the Texas senator ever decides to endorse him.

"Honestly, he may have ruined his political career. I feel so badly," Trump said this morning of Cruz, his former primary rival.

Cruz was booed off the stage on the third day of the convention for suggesting that people should “vote their conscience” in November. The Texas senator defended his speech the next morning at a Texas delegate breakfast, arguing he’s “not in the habit of supporting someone who attacks my wife and attacks my father.”

Bur Trump said this morning that Cruz will “come and endorse over the next little while. It's because he has no choice. But I don't want his endorsement. What difference does it make?"

"Ted, just stay home, relax, enjoy yourself," Trump said to laughter from the crowd of supporters and convention volunteers.

Trump said he reviewed a version of Cruz's speech, which included no endorsement, but allowed him to take the stage anyway Wednesday night.

“He got up and he added a sentence, which could have been viewed as a nasty thing in terms of what he said because he was implying something which is wrong. But that's OK,” Trump said, referring to Cruz’s “vote your conscience" line.

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Title: Re: Donald Trump 'Will Not Accept' even If Ted Cruz Endorses Him
Post by: catfish1957 on July 22, 2016, 04:31:45 pm
SOURCE: ABC NEWS

Bur Trump said this morning that Cruz will “come and endorse over the next little while. It's because he has no choice. But I don't want his endorsement. What difference does it make?"


Where have we heard that before. :whistle:
Title: Re: Donald Trump 'Will Not Accept' even If Ted Cruz Endorses Him
Post by: Free Vulcan on July 22, 2016, 04:49:27 pm
Cruz lives rent free in Trump's head.

Hillary who?
Title: Re: Donald Trump 'Will Not Accept' even If Ted Cruz Endorses Him
Post by: geronl on July 22, 2016, 04:52:26 pm
Quote
It's because he has no choice.

There is always a choice. Anyone who endorses this insanity deserves the prize at the end.
Title: Re: Donald Trump 'Will Not Accept' even If Ted Cruz Endorses Him
Post by: beandog on July 22, 2016, 04:56:51 pm
He knows Sen. Cruz is never going to sully himself by endorsing this horrible, worthless man, so it's easy for him to say anything he wants.
Title: Re: Donald Trump 'Will Not Accept' even If Ted Cruz Endorses Him
Post by: geronl on July 22, 2016, 04:57:48 pm
He knows Sen. Cruz is never going to sully himself by endorsing this horrible, worthless man, so it's easy for him to say anything he wants.

 :amen:
Title: Re: Donald Trump 'Will Not Accept' even If Ted Cruz Endorses Him
Post by: Night Hides Not on July 22, 2016, 05:01:26 pm
Cruz lives rent free in Trump's head.

Hillary who?

Putin is licking his chops, no matter if it's Hillary or Trump.
Title: Re: Donald Trump 'Will Not Accept' even If Ted Cruz Endorses Him
Post by: sinkspur on July 22, 2016, 05:04:29 pm
Here's that Post-Convention bump. From 39 to 39

Echelon-@lucid_hq *Post-Convention* poll (RV)

Clinton 40
Trump 39
Johnson 3
Stein 2
Undecided 17

Clinton 45
Trump 41
Undecided 15
Title: Re: Donald Trump 'Will Not Accept' even If Ted Cruz Endorses Him
Post by: geronl on July 22, 2016, 05:08:03 pm
He might as well start running TV ads (assuming he has any funds) against Ted Cruz at this rate.
Title: Re: Donald Trump 'Will Not Accept' even If Ted Cruz Endorses Him
Post by: beandog on July 22, 2016, 05:10:59 pm
:amen:

In reality, it is eating the Donald's insides that Sen. Cruz won't endorse him.  tRump is used to getting him own way, know matter what he has to do.  Sen. Cruz is getting the last laugh and I hope he is enjoying every minute of it.
Title: Re: Donald Trump 'Will Not Accept' even If Ted Cruz Endorses Him
Post by: guitar4jesus on July 22, 2016, 05:13:23 pm
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Title: Re: Donald Trump 'Will Not Accept' even If Ted Cruz Endorses Him
Post by: TomSea on July 22, 2016, 05:17:35 pm
Rick Perry, says it well, "If the RNC was about Unity, Cruz didn't get the memo".
Title: Re: Donald Trump 'Will Not Accept' even If Ted Cruz Endorses Him
Post by: catfish1957 on July 22, 2016, 05:19:33 pm
Rick Perry, says it well, "If the RNC was about Unity, Cruz didn't get the memo".

You really like quoting "has beens" don't you?

Good thing there wasn't two more things to remember beside "unity"  :silly:
Title: Re: Donald Trump 'Will Not Accept' even If Ted Cruz Endorses Him
Post by: beandog on July 22, 2016, 05:20:36 pm
Rick Perry, says it well, "If the RNC was about Unity, Cruz didn't get the memo".

The RNC wasn't about "Unity", so there was no memo to get.
Title: Re: Donald Trump 'Will Not Accept' even If Ted Cruz Endorses Him
Post by: SirLinksALot on July 22, 2016, 05:24:28 pm
Rick Perry, says it well, "If the RNC was about Unity, Cruz didn't get the memo".

I'd rather the RNC was about Freedom, Limited Government and Defense of the Constitution and that they UNIFY around those principles.
Title: Re: Donald Trump 'Will Not Accept' even If Ted Cruz Endorses Him
Post by: Resp3 on July 22, 2016, 05:25:30 pm
So Donald Trump can write off Ted Cruz. As well as all the Cruzers who would normally vote for the Republican.

OK fine. I get this.

But why? Why can't the Trumpanzees on this site (as well as TOS) understand this? They keep yammering like Chihuahuas that unless we vote for trump - then we are essentially voting for Hillary.

Title: Re: Donald Trump 'Will Not Accept' even If Ted Cruz Endorses Him
Post by: Sanguine on July 22, 2016, 05:27:19 pm
What a bizarre screed!

If he gets elected, it will be an, um....interesting four years.
Title: Re: Donald Trump 'Will Not Accept' even If Ted Cruz Endorses Him
Post by: skeeter on July 22, 2016, 05:28:13 pm
I'm listening to Rush try to shill for Trump. Its painful to hear - he's incoherent.

Trump's candidacy will destroy many prominent people.
Title: Re: Donald Trump 'Will Not Accept' even If Ted Cruz Endorses Him
Post by: catfish1957 on July 22, 2016, 05:28:49 pm
So Donald Trump can write off Ted Cruz. As well as all the Cruzers who would normally vote for the Republican.

OK fine. I get this.

But why? Why can't the Trumpanzees on this site (as well as TOS) understand this? They keep yammering like Chihuahuas that unless we vote for trump - then we are essentially voting for Hillary.

(1) Gullibility? (2) Intelligence? (3) Bat shit crazy as their candidate
Title: Re: Donald Trump 'Will Not Accept' even If Ted Cruz Endorses Him
Post by: beandog on July 22, 2016, 05:31:07 pm
(1) Gullibility? (2) Intelligence? (3) Bat shit crazy as their candidate

There is know doubt.  The answer is (3) Bat shit crazy as their candidate.
Title: Re: Donald Trump 'Will Not Accept' even If Ted Cruz Endorses Him
Post by: Mechanicos on July 22, 2016, 05:31:33 pm
"vote their conscience" presumes almost 14 million GOP voters and over 1500 GOP delegates did not vote their conscience when they rejected Cruz and voted for Trump. Its insulting to millions of Conservatives.
Title: Re: Donald Trump 'Will Not Accept' even If Ted Cruz Endorses Him
Post by: geronl on July 22, 2016, 05:35:31 pm
Rick Perry, says it well, "If the RNC was about Unity, Cruz didn't get the memo".

What part of the RNC was about unity? When they stomped on conservatives over and over? When they took delegate votes for other candidates and awarded them to Trump? When they are instructed to boo Ted Cruz?

There has been no attempt by the Trump Side to reach out or build bridges to conservatives, none.
Title: Re: Donald Trump 'Will Not Accept' even If Ted Cruz Endorses Him
Post by: Polly Ticks on July 22, 2016, 05:35:59 pm
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Title: Re: Donald Trump 'Will Not Accept' even If Ted Cruz Endorses Him
Post by: geronl on July 22, 2016, 05:36:48 pm
I'd rather the RNC was about Freedom, Limited Government and Defense of the Constitution and that they UNIFY around those principles.

Those things are being drowned out with boos
Title: Re: Donald Trump 'Will Not Accept' even If Ted Cruz Endorses Him
Post by: Mechanicos on July 22, 2016, 05:38:08 pm
Simple fact, if you are still supporting Cruz after he proved what Trump has said about him, live on TV, there is nothing that can help fix that problem. If you will not vote for the GOP ticket to help your fellow Americans stop Hilary there is something broken that cannot be fixed by anything anybody says.

Title: Re: Donald Trump 'Will Not Accept' even If Ted Cruz Endorses Him
Post by: beandog on July 22, 2016, 05:38:46 pm
"vote their conscience" presumes almost 14 million GOP voters and over 1500 GOP delegates did not vote their conscience when they rejected Cruz and voted for Trump. Its insulting to millions of Conservatives.

He didn't insult any real conservatives.  A real conservative would not have voted for tRump in the first place.  He was actually speaking to the more that 14 million GOP voters who did not support the Donald in the primaries.  The ones with an actual conscience.
Title: Re: Donald Trump 'Will Not Accept' even If Ted Cruz Endorses Him
Post by: Timber Rattler on July 22, 2016, 05:39:56 pm
"vote their conscience" presumes almost 14 million GOP voters and over 1500 GOP delegates did not vote their conscience when they rejected Cruz and voted for Trump. Its insulting to millions of Conservatives.

Never mind those 17 million Republican primary voters who did NOT vote for Trump, but for somebody else.  Glad that Trump thinks that he won't need them in November.

 000hehehehe
Title: Re: Donald Trump 'Will Not Accept' even If Ted Cruz Endorses Him
Post by: Bigun on July 22, 2016, 05:40:56 pm
Ted Cruz is looking smarter than ever today if you ask me!
Title: Re: Donald Trump 'Will Not Accept' even If Ted Cruz Endorses Him
Post by: Resp3 on July 22, 2016, 05:41:19 pm
"vote their conscience" presumes almost 14 million GOP voters and over 1500 GOP delegates did not vote their conscience when they rejected Cruz and voted for Trump. Its insulting to millions of Conservatives.

Ahhhh. Just talking about you at post 15. And here you are. Yammering off-topic. 

Look. If Trump can write us off - why can't you?
Title: Re: Donald Trump 'Will Not Accept' even If Ted Cruz Endorses Him
Post by: Mechanicos on July 22, 2016, 05:41:28 pm
He didn't insult any real conservatives.  A real conservative would not have voted for tRump in the first place.  He was actually speaking to the more that 14 million GOP voters who did not support the Donald in the primaries.  The ones with an actual conscience.
Uh you supported Cruz, means you have no clue what a conservative is. Conservatives rejected Cruz.
Title: Re: Donald Trump 'Will Not Accept' even If Ted Cruz Endorses Him
Post by: SirLinksALot on July 22, 2016, 05:42:20 pm
Simple fact, if you are still supporting Cruz after he proved what Trump has said about him, live on TV, there is nothing that can help fix that problem. If you will not vote for the GOP ticket to help your fellow Americans stop Hilary there is something broken that cannot be fixed by anything anybody says.

Ted Cruz tells people to vote up and down the ticket for the person who meets conservative values. Again, why would anyone who is a true conservative BOO this exhortation?

If Trump is a true conservative, then the simple thing to do is say to yourself "Yes, he is that man who meets the description."

The fact that this statement was BOOed is a huge tell as to what the Republican party has become.
Title: Re: Donald Trump 'Will Not Accept' even If Ted Cruz Endorses Him
Post by: geronl on July 22, 2016, 05:43:02 pm
Simple fact, if you are still supporting Cruz after he proved what Trump has said about him, live on TV, there is nothing that can help fix that problem.

What Trump said about Cruz is completely insane and retarded. The man and his supporters are ready for the nuthouse.
Title: Re: Donald Trump 'Will Not Accept' even If Ted Cruz Endorses Him
Post by: SirLinksALot on July 22, 2016, 05:43:28 pm
Uh you supported Cruz, means you have no clue what a conservative is. Conservatives rejected Cruz.

Conservatives are for freedom, limited government and adherence to the constitution. If that is so, why would one reject Cruz?
Title: Re: Donald Trump 'Will Not Accept' even If Ted Cruz Endorses Him
Post by: Bigun on July 22, 2016, 05:43:48 pm
What part of the RNC was about unity? When they stomped on conservatives over and over? When they took delegate votes for other candidates and awarded them to Trump? When they are instructed to boo Ted Cruz?

There has been no attempt by the Trump Side to reach out or build bridges to conservatives, none.

The part about rolling over on conservatives! EVERY last one of them!
Title: Re: Donald Trump 'Will Not Accept' even If Ted Cruz Endorses Him
Post by: LMAO on July 22, 2016, 05:44:27 pm
"vote their conscience" presumes almost 14 million GOP voters and over 1500 GOP delegates did not vote their conscience when they rejected Cruz and voted for Trump. Its insulting to millions of Conservatives.

I know you love clinging on to that talking point but after watching Trump this am, it's clear that his campaign may be in meltdown mode. If this is a sign of were this campaign is going say hello to President Hillary

The primary is over. It's on to the general election and his first point if order after the convention was not to go after Hillary but Cruz. And this is what Trump will continue to do because that's his history. The general electorate doesn't occupy the same bubble you do.

If Cruz behaved the exact way as Trump has, I would be intellectually honest enough to call him out on it and question the direction of his campaign. Cruz isn't funning against Hillary. Trump is and the Progressive Nationalist/Populists can't use Cruz as a crutch all the time for Trump's " missteps"

I have never seen a campaign in such disarray. If Hillary wasn't so disliked this election would have already been over before it started  in her favor but for the actual vote counting.

You can't just hope for
a calamity or a Hillary misstep to win

Title: Re: Donald Trump 'Will Not Accept' even If Ted Cruz Endorses Him
Post by: beandog on July 22, 2016, 05:47:01 pm
Uh you supported Cruz, means you have no clue what a conservative is. Conservatives rejected Cruz.

Only in the upside down crazy world that is tRump and his lunatic supporters.
Title: Re: Donald Trump 'Will Not Accept' even If Ted Cruz Endorses Him
Post by: Crazieman on July 22, 2016, 05:54:05 pm
Only in the upside down crazy world that is tRump and his lunatic supporters.

The epitome of non sequitur thinking.

After arguing with them this morning I was left incredulous and wondering if I was being trolled.
Title: Re: Donald Trump 'Will Not Accept' even If Ted Cruz Endorses Him
Post by: Resp3 on July 22, 2016, 05:58:29 pm


After arguing with them this morning I was left incredulous and wondering if I was being trolled.


You are being trolled. We all are. Agitators like Mech will leave FR for just a moment - drop in on threads here to post their pukeage - and then will return to the safety and comfort of TOS.

Title: Re: Donald Trump 'Will Not Accept' even If Ted Cruz Endorses Him
Post by: Bigun on July 22, 2016, 06:01:37 pm
The epitome of non sequitur thinking.

After arguing with them this morning I was left incredulous and wondering if I was being trolled.

Arguing with them is like giving medicine to a dead person! Just put them on ignore and maybe they will go away!
Title: Re: Donald Trump 'Will Not Accept' even If Ted Cruz Endorses Him
Post by: austingirl on July 22, 2016, 06:04:44 pm
Trump was on full frontal display this morning  as the vindictive amoral tyrant he is. What disaster 40% of the primary voters have brought on us.
Title: Re: Donald Trump 'Will Not Accept' even If Ted Cruz Endorses Him
Post by: Frank Cannon on July 22, 2016, 06:07:08 pm
Great to see Trump out on the trail after his huge bounce from the convention and attacking his opponent in the General election. Wait....what?!?! Donny isn't running agaibst Cruz for a Senate seat in TX but against Hitlary for President? Well......nevermind.
Title: Re: Donald Trump 'Will Not Accept' even If Ted Cruz Endorses Him
Post by: catfish1957 on July 22, 2016, 06:09:51 pm
Trump was on full frontal display this morning  as the vindictive amoral tyrant he is. What disaster 40% of the primary voters have brought on us.

And I'd I'd bet a 1/3 to 1/2 of those weren't even Republican
Title: Re: Donald Trump 'Will Not Accept' even If Ted Cruz Endorses Him
Post by: Mechanicos on July 22, 2016, 06:14:33 pm
Trump is doing damage control with the future votes of women and Cruz voters. He views Cruz as actively using his temporary spotlight with the media to undermine Trump and so he came out to set the record straight. He now views Cruz as an active enemy.
Title: Re: Donald Trump 'Will Not Accept' even If Ted Cruz Endorses Him
Post by: Machiavelli on July 22, 2016, 06:17:25 pm
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Title: Re: Donald Trump 'Will Not Accept' even If Ted Cruz Endorses Him
Post by: TomSea on July 22, 2016, 06:19:06 pm
Overkill by Trump in those personal attacks, Trump had basically won the nomination when he said those things.

Let's not forget, the two campaigned together, "My friend Donald".

Too bad, this thing went downhill.
Title: Re: Donald Trump 'Will Not Accept' even If Ted Cruz Endorses Him
Post by: TomSea on July 22, 2016, 06:20:30 pm
He didn't insult any real conservatives.  A real conservative would not have voted for tRump in the first place.  He was actually speaking to the more that 14 million GOP voters who did not support the Donald in the primaries.  The ones with an actual conscience.

But Ted Cruz campaigned with Trump, so that says enough for the "real conservatives", Ted must not be one.
Title: Re: Donald Trump 'Will Not Accept' even If Ted Cruz Endorses Him
Post by: Idaho_Cowboy on July 22, 2016, 06:20:33 pm
Rick Perry, says it well, "If the RNC was about Unity, Cruz didn't get the memo".
Trump in his usual gracious manner has doubled down on unity today by dusting off the lying Ted memes and again suggesting that Cruz's father was involved in the killing of JFK. 
:dighole:
Trump is going to do very well in washington if every little thing gets turned into a grudge match the only ones he can deal with out the Democrats. Like when he used to by politicians to get things done in NY.

“I was a businessman. I give to everybody. When they call, I give. And you know what? When I need something from them, two years later, three years later, I call them, and they are there for me.” Donald Trump 2016.

Perhaps Trump is upset he couldn't find Cruz's price.
Title: Re: Donald Trump 'Will Not Accept' even If Ted Cruz Endorses Him
Post by: Idaho_Cowboy on July 22, 2016, 06:21:55 pm
Trump is doing damage control with the future votes of women and Cruz voters. He views Cruz as actively using his temporary spotlight with the media to undermine Trump and so he came out to set the record straight. He now views Cruz as an active enemy.
It is very telling that Trump would view someone saying we should support the Consitution as a personal attack.
Title: Re: Donald Trump 'Will Not Accept' even If Ted Cruz Endorses Him
Post by: austingirl on July 22, 2016, 06:21:59 pm
Great to see Trump out on the trail after his huge bounce from the convention and attacking his opponent in the General election. Wait....what?!?! Donny isn't running agaibst Cruz for a Senate seat in TX but against Hitlary for President? Well......nevermind.

You're back. Yippee!
Title: Re: Donald Trump 'Will Not Accept' even If Ted Cruz Endorses Him
Post by: austingirl on July 22, 2016, 06:24:24 pm
And I'd I'd bet a 1/3 to 1/2 of those weren't even Republican

They weren't- they were dimocraps crossing over in the primaries and they will vote for Hiltery in the general. We have all been had by the NY liberal narcissist, Hillary's good friend.
Title: Re: Donald Trump 'Will Not Accept' even If Ted Cruz Endorses Him
Post by: Idaho_Cowboy on July 22, 2016, 06:24:29 pm
But Ted Cruz campaigned with Trump, so that says enough for the "real conservatives", Ted must not be one.
Maybe if Trump hadn't resorted to character assassination in the primary he'd have gotten more unity. Ted Cruz didn't seem to be averse to the idea until Trump starting lying about him.
Title: Re: Donald Trump 'Will Not Accept' even If Ted Cruz Endorses Him
Post by: mystery-ak on July 22, 2016, 06:24:53 pm
Overkill by Trump in those personal attacks, Trump had basically won the nomination when he said those things.

Let's not forget, the two campaigned together, "My friend Donald".

Too bad, this thing went downhill.

Totally agree.....move on Trump..
Title: Re: Donald Trump 'Will Not Accept' even If Ted Cruz Endorses Him
Post by: Idaho_Cowboy on July 22, 2016, 06:28:57 pm
Simple fact, if you are still supporting Cruz after he proved what Trump has said about him, live on TV, there is nothing that can help fix that problem. If you will not vote for the GOP ticket to help your fellow Americans stop Hilary there is something broken that cannot be fixed by anything anybody says.
What Cruz admitted that his Dad helped kill JFK. I missed that, do you have a link?
Title: Re: Donald Trump 'Will Not Accept' even If Ted Cruz Endorses Him
Post by: beandog on July 22, 2016, 06:29:22 pm
But Ted Cruz campaigned with Trump, so that says enough for the "real conservatives", Ted must not be one.

And the Donald invited the Clintons to his wedding and has repeatedly praised both of the Clintons as great people.  At least Sen. Cruz was only temporarily fooled by the orange Clown.  The Donald was, and in all likelihood still is, in love with the Clintons, as his wife and daughter.
Title: Re: Donald Trump 'Will Not Accept' even If Ted Cruz Endorses Him
Post by: Idaho_Cowboy on July 22, 2016, 06:31:29 pm
Totally agree.....move on Trump..
Oh he's doing fine, just fine where he's at. I'm glad he finally showed his true colors. I figured he'd hold it together till October. I didn't expect an implosion on the launch pad.

There's a lesson in here for the Republican party and the conservative movement. Let's hope they learn it well.
Title: Re: Donald Trump 'Will Not Accept' even If Ted Cruz Endorses Him
Post by: geronl on July 22, 2016, 06:34:00 pm
Great to see Trump out on the trail after his huge bounce from the convention and attacking his opponent in the General election. Wait....what?!?! Donny isn't running agaibst Cruz for a Senate seat in TX but against Hitlary for President? Well......nevermind.

Welcome @Frank Cannon  to the forum.

 :tongue2:
Title: Re: Donald Trump 'Will Not Accept' even If Ted Cruz Endorses Him
Post by: HoustonSam on July 22, 2016, 06:34:11 pm
But Ted Cruz campaigned with Trump, so that says enough for the "real conservatives", Ted must not be one.

You seem to think it is significant that Cruz maintained a good relationship with Trump, and even campaigned with him, early in the primaries.

Cruz worked to maintain positive relationships with everyone throughout the primaries, focusing on his own principles rather than on the competitors themselves.  That is how a serious candidate maintains party unity.  Trump destroyed unity by making it personal when Cruz's poll numbers got ahead in Iowa, he made it more personal when Cruz won Iowa, and he insulted Cruz's family when Cruz continued to compete.  Unity is now completely destroyed, because of Trump's megalomania, not because of Cruz's ambition.

Cruz's attempts to maintain a positive relationship with Trump, and with the other candidates, early in the campaign do not diminish or indict him now.  They prove that he led toward party unity.  Trump has made clear on multiple occasions, through words and actions,  that he does not care about party unity.  To the extent that others do, they should look to their chosen leader, who destroyed that unity, to take the necessary steps now to repair it.  Perhaps by learning from the example Cruz set early in the campaign.
Title: Re: Donald Trump 'Will Not Accept' even If Ted Cruz Endorses Him
Post by: Idaho_Cowboy on July 22, 2016, 06:45:25 pm
You seem to think it is significant that Cruz maintained a good relationship with Trump, and even campaigned with him, early in the primaries.

Cruz worked to maintain positive relationships with everyone throughout the primaries, focusing on his own principles rather than on the competitors themselves.  That is how a serious candidate maintains party unity.  Trump destroyed unity by making it personal when Cruz's poll numbers got ahead in Iowa, he made it more personal when Cruz won Iowa, and he insulted Cruz's family when Cruz continued to compete.  Unity is now completely destroyed, because of Trump's megalomania, not because of Cruz's ambition.

Cruz's attempts to maintain a positive relationship with Trump, and with the other candidates, early in the campaign do not diminish or indict him now.  They prove that he led toward party unity.  Trump has made clear on multiple occasions, through words and actions,  that he does not care about party unity.  To the extent that others do, they should look to their chosen leader, who destroyed that unity, to take the necessary steps now to repair it.  Perhaps by learning from the example Cruz set early in the campaign.
Very true and Trump continues to act as if he views Cruz's principles as his greatest threat.
Title: Re: Donald Trump 'Will Not Accept' even If Ted Cruz Endorses Him
Post by: geronl on July 22, 2016, 06:47:05 pm
You seem to think it is significant that Cruz maintained a good relationship with Trump, and even campaigned with him, early in the primaries.

Cruz's attempts to maintain a positive relationship with Trump, and with the other candidates, early in the campaign do not diminish or indict him now.  They prove that he led toward party unity.  Trump has made clear on multiple occasions, through words and actions,  that he does not care about party unity.  To the extent that others do, they should look to their chosen leader, who destroyed that unity, to take the necessary steps now to repair it.  Perhaps by learning from the example Cruz set early in the campaign.

 :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Donald Trump 'Will Not Accept' even If Ted Cruz Endorses Him
Post by: Hurricane Andrew on July 22, 2016, 06:48:06 pm

Where have we heard that before. :whistle:
I was thinking the exact same thing!
Title: Re: Donald Trump 'Will Not Accept' even If Ted Cruz Endorses Him
Post by: Bigun on July 22, 2016, 06:48:41 pm
And the Donald invited the Clintons to his wedding and has repeatedly praised both of the Clintons as great people.  At least Sen. Cruz was only temporarily fooled by the orange Clown.  The Donald was, and in all likelihood still is, in love with the Clintons, as his wife and daughter.

Ted Cruz was never fooled! Not even for a second!
Title: Re: Donald Trump 'Will Not Accept' even If Ted Cruz Endorses Him
Post by: austingirl on July 22, 2016, 07:05:49 pm
You seem to think it is significant that Cruz maintained a good relationship with Trump, and even campaigned with him, early in the primaries.

Cruz worked to maintain positive relationships with everyone throughout the primaries, focusing on his own principles rather than on the competitors themselves.  That is how a serious candidate maintains party unity.  Trump destroyed unity by making it personal when Cruz's poll numbers got ahead in Iowa, he made it more personal when Cruz won Iowa, and he insulted Cruz's family when Cruz continued to compete.  Unity is now completely destroyed, because of Trump's megalomania, not because of Cruz's ambition.

Cruz's attempts to maintain a positive relationship with Trump, and with the other candidates, early in the campaign do not diminish or indict him now.  They prove that he led toward party unity.  Trump has made clear on multiple occasions, through words and actions,  that he does not care about party unity.  To the extent that others do, they should look to their chosen leader, who destroyed that unity, to take the necessary steps now to repair it.  Perhaps by learning from the example Cruz set early in the campaign.

Excellent post.
Title: Re: Donald Trump 'Will Not Accept' even If Ted Cruz Endorses Him
Post by: catfish1957 on July 22, 2016, 07:20:17 pm
Trump is doing damage control with the future votes of women and Cruz voters. He views Cruz as actively using his temporary spotlight with the media to undermine Trump and so he came out to set the record straight. He now views Cruz as an active enemy.

Nope.  Trump declared war on Cruz conservatives today  He is toast.
Title: Re: Donald Trump 'Will Not Accept' even If Ted Cruz Endorses Him
Post by: Sanguine on July 22, 2016, 07:20:55 pm
Simple fact, if you are still supporting Cruz after he proved what Trump has said about him, live on TV, there is nothing that can help fix that problem. If you will not vote for the GOP ticket to help your fellow Americans stop Hilary there is something broken that cannot be fixed by anything anybody says.

"GOP ticket"?  That's become one of those relative kinda things.
Title: Re: Donald Trump 'Will Not Accept' even If Ted Cruz Endorses Him
Post by: skeeter on July 22, 2016, 07:21:24 pm
Trump was on full frontal display this morning  as the vindictive amoral tyrant he is. What disaster 40% of the primary voters have brought on us.

Trump sure does make voting your conscious easy!
Title: Re: Donald Trump 'Will Not Accept' even If Ted Cruz Endorses Him
Post by: skeeter on July 22, 2016, 07:31:30 pm
You seem to think it is significant that Cruz maintained a good relationship with Trump, and even campaigned with him, early in the primaries.

Cruz worked to maintain positive relationships with everyone throughout the primaries, focusing on his own principles rather than on the competitors themselves.  That is how a serious candidate maintains party unity.  Trump destroyed unity by making it personal when Cruz's poll numbers got ahead in Iowa, he made it more personal when Cruz won Iowa, and he insulted Cruz's family when Cruz continued to compete.  Unity is now completely destroyed, because of Trump's megalomania, not because of Cruz's ambition.

Cruz's attempts to maintain a positive relationship with Trump, and with the other candidates, early in the campaign do not diminish or indict him now.  They prove that he led toward party unity.  Trump has made clear on multiple occasions, through words and actions,  that he does not care about party unity.  To the extent that others do, they should look to their chosen leader, who destroyed that unity, to take the necessary steps now to repair it.  Perhaps by learning from the example Cruz set early in the campaign.

THAT is a fine post.

Trump continued to destroy party unity this morning, when there was no good reason in the world to, proving either a) he still doesn't understand how to be a leader, or b) he does not intend to win in November.
Title: Re: Donald Trump 'Will Not Accept' even If Ted Cruz Endorses Him
Post by: Idaho_Cowboy on July 22, 2016, 07:34:45 pm
Nope.  Trump declared war on Cruz conservatives today  He is toast.
By the time this is over he'll be threatening to bite our knee caps. He seems to be shooting his own limbs off at an alarming rate.
Title: Re: Donald Trump 'Will Not Accept' even If Ted Cruz Endorses Him
Post by: Mesaclone on July 22, 2016, 07:39:33 pm
So Donald Trump can write off Ted Cruz. As well as all the Cruzers who would normally vote for the Republican.

OK fine. I get this.

But why? Why can't the Trumpanzees on this site (as well as TOS) understand this? They keep yammering like Chihuahuas that unless we vote for trump - then we are essentially voting for Hillary.

Yes, we yammer about it because its true. Trump wrote off Cruz, not all of his supporters...MANY of whom have already come over to support him. But yes, a 2-3% difference could decide the election, and if that portion is roughly equivalent to Nevertrumps who vote Hillary or don't vote...than they bear the burden of Hillary winning. That's not a moral call, its simple mathematics.
Title: Re: Donald Trump 'Will Not Accept' even If Ted Cruz Endorses Him
Post by: skeeter on July 22, 2016, 07:45:28 pm
Yes, we yammer about it because its true. Trump wrote off Cruz, not all of his supporters...MANY of whom have already come over to support him. But yes, a 2-3% difference could decide the election, and if that portion is roughly equivalent to Nevertrumps who vote Hillary or don't vote...than they bear the burden of Hillary winning. That's not a moral call, its simple mathematics.

If Trump loses it will be because he is an amoral, unstable pretender & social buffoon.

Actually, we tried to tell you. If he loses you ought to apologize to us.
Title: Re: Donald Trump 'Will Not Accept' even If Ted Cruz Endorses Him
Post by: HoustonSam on July 22, 2016, 07:47:29 pm
THAT is a fine post.

Trump continued to destroy party unity this morning, when there was no good reason in the world to, proving either a) he still doesn't understand how to be a leader, or b) he does not intend to win in November.

Thank you @skeeter and @austingirl for your kind encouragement.  The poster to whom my thoughts were addressed has not responded.
Title: Re: Donald Trump 'Will Not Accept' even If Ted Cruz Endorses Him
Post by: geronl on July 22, 2016, 07:50:46 pm
...than they bear the burden of Hillary winning.

Trump is the only one who bears the burden. He is the one who is supposed to differentiate himself from Hillary, but he cannot.
Title: Re: Donald Trump 'Will Not Accept' even If Ted Cruz Endorses Him
Post by: beandog on July 22, 2016, 08:18:45 pm
But Ted Cruz campaigned with Trump, so that says enough for the "real conservatives", Ted must not be one.

I got to thinking more about this when I was out doing things.  Sen. Cruz did not "campaign" with the Donald.  By saying that you are implying that Sen. Cruz supported the Donald running for something, which he never has.  Besides I can 100% guarantee that Sen. Cruz never supported, voted for or donated money to any demonrat, unlike the Donald.  On top of that, unlike the Donald, Sen. Cruz has never donated or supported Planned Parenthood.
Title: Re: Donald Trump 'Will Not Accept' even If Ted Cruz Endorses Him
Post by: beandog on July 22, 2016, 08:19:53 pm
Trump is the only one who bears the burden. He is the one who is supposed to differentiate himself from Hillary, but he cannot.

Unlike you, I also place the burden and blame on his supporters.
Title: Re: Donald Trump 'Will Not Accept' even If Ted Cruz Endorses Him
Post by: Resp3 on July 22, 2016, 08:24:49 pm
Yes, we yammer about it because its true. Trump wrote off Cruz, not all of his supporters...MANY of whom have already come over to support him. But yes, a 2-3% difference could decide the election, and if that portion is roughly equivalent to Nevertrumps who vote Hillary or don't vote...than they bear the burden of Hillary winning. That's not a moral call, its simple mathematics.

LOGIC FAIL. If Trump has no use for Cruz and his endorsement - then he has no use for Cruzers.

Trump realizes this. That's why he sucked up to Bernie voters in his speech. That's why he acknowledged he didn't deserve the evangelical voter support.

Look. Trump has kicked conservatives to the curb. So how Trumpanzees can continue to beg for our support is beyond belief.
Title: Re: Donald Trump 'Will Not Accept' even If Ted Cruz Endorses Him
Post by: Doug Loss on July 22, 2016, 10:37:33 pm
Yes, we yammer about it because its true. Trump wrote off Cruz, not all of his supporters...MANY of whom have already come over to support him. But yes, a 2-3% difference could decide the election, and if that portion is roughly equivalent to Nevertrumps who vote Hillary or don't vote...than they bear the burden of Hillary winning. That's not a moral call, its simple mathematics.

Wrong, as usual.  If Trump wrote off Cruz, he wrote off me (and most of the rest of us principled conservatives).  I stand with Ted.  We won't vote for Hillary, who is just as bad as Trump, but for Johnson or Castle or someone else.  But Trump has lost our votes with his petty vindictiveness.  And in the process he's probably destroyed the GOP permanently.  I'm sure you're happy about trying to convert principled conservatism into hero-worshipping authoritarianism, but we won't follow you into the morass of Trump worship.
Title: Re: Donald Trump 'Will Not Accept' even If Ted Cruz Endorses Him
Post by: Mesaclone on July 23, 2016, 01:56:44 am
Wrong, as usual.  If Trump wrote off Cruz, he wrote off me (and most of the rest of us principled conservatives).  I stand with Ted.  We won't vote for Hillary, who is just as bad as Trump, but for Johnson or Castle or someone else.  But Trump has lost our votes with his petty vindictiveness.  And in the process he's probably destroyed the GOP permanently.  I'm sure you're happy about trying to convert principled conservatism into hero-worshipping authoritarianism, but we won't follow you into the morass of Trump worship.

A couple of points. First, Cruz's career is over, so you should let that go for your own sake. More importantly, most conservatives and Republicans...just as principled if not moreso than yourself...fully support Mr. Trump. You are out there with the Bush-Romney-Kristol establishment axis, so enjoy yourself with those fine fellows. As for hero worship, it was Ted that you and your ilk called the "Chosen" one...that's where the crazy sits. The rest of us are supporting a ticket that will bring much needed change to Washington, and which will govern in an efficient and principled way. We worship no one, and see all the flaws in ALL of the candidates...including the man we are supporting.

So you and your chosen one and the 15 other NeverTrump holdouts will do what you do...have fun. The door is always open should you ever return to sanity.
Title: Re: Donald Trump 'Will Not Accept' even If Ted Cruz Endorses Him
Post by: Gov Bean Counter on July 23, 2016, 02:02:04 am
A couple of points. First, Cruz's career is over, so you should let that go for your own sake. More importantly, most conservatives and Republicans...just as principled if not moreso than yourself...fully support Mr. Trump. You are out there with the Bush-Romney-Kristol establishment axis, so enjoy yourself with those fine fellows. As for hero worship, it was Ted that you and your ilk called the "Chosen" one...that's where the crazy sits. The rest of us are supporting a ticket that will bring much needed change to Washington, and which will govern in an efficient and principled way. We worship no one, and see all the flaws in ALL of the candidates...including the man we are supporting.

So you and your chosen one and the 15 other NeverTrump holdouts will do what you do...have fun. The door is always open should you ever return to sanity.

Don't worship Trump.

Bull, you bow to the Orange Baal daily.
Title: Re: Donald Trump 'Will Not Accept' even If Ted Cruz Endorses Him
Post by: Bigun on July 23, 2016, 02:02:42 am
Don't worship Trump.

Bull, you bow to the Orange Baal daily.

Please don't feed the trolls!
Title: Re: Donald Trump 'Will Not Accept' even If Ted Cruz Endorses Him
Post by: WAC on July 23, 2016, 02:19:16 am
......its true. Trump wrote off Cruz, not all of his supporters...MANY of whom have already come over to support him. But yes, a 2-3% difference could decide the election, and if that portion is roughly equivalent to Nevertrumps who vote Hillary or don't vote...than they bear the burden of Hillary winning. That's not a moral call, its simple mathematics.

Actually Cruz wrote off his own entire political career, he's no longer relevant.............perhaps it was Cruz who should have gone third party.... then those who hold tightly to what they perceive as Conservatisim would at least have a candidate to support.

Title: Re: Donald Trump 'Will Not Accept' even If Ted Cruz Endorses Him
Post by: Fantom on July 23, 2016, 02:31:15 am


Ted will be relevant, and at the center of Conservative action long after trump steaks quit selling.
Title: Re: Donald Trump 'Will Not Accept' even If Ted Cruz Endorses Him
Post by: geronl on July 23, 2016, 02:35:27 am

Ted will be relevant, and at the center of Conservative action long after trump steaks quit selling.

Apparently Trump sells Bush Brothers Steaks, lol.
Title: Re: Donald Trump 'Will Not Accept' even If Ted Cruz Endorses Him
Post by: Fantom on July 23, 2016, 02:37:05 am
Apparently Trump sells Bush Brothers Steaks, lol.

Really.. that is funny.  :laugh:

P.S. Ok geronl.. you made me look.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/lifestyle/food/hey-trump-wheres-the-beef-trump-steaks-are-so-rare-we-cant-even-find-one/2016/03/22/175b682a-ebc3-11e5-bc08-3e03a5b41910_story.html
Title: Re: Donald Trump 'Will Not Accept' even If Ted Cruz Endorses Him
Post by: libertybele on July 23, 2016, 02:45:47 am
Donny is such a buffoon.  If he won't accept Cruz's endorsement even IF Cruz gives him one, then why in the word is he making such a big deal about Cruz not endorsing him?? 

I also read where Trump would fund super PAC's to go against Cruz and Kasich! 

Hello...Mr. Trump ... is there anybody home upstairs?  He should be going afterHillary -- but nah ... he'd rather assure her seat in the oval office so he keeps going after former rivals.

http://www.bloomberg.com/politics/articles/2016-07-22/trump-would-fund-super-pacs-aimed-at-taking-down-cruz-kasich-iqybu9m1

Title: Re: Donald Trump 'Will Not Accept' even If Ted Cruz Endorses Him
Post by: roamer_1 on July 23, 2016, 04:33:45 am
He won't accept that which is not going to be offered?

WTF does that even mean?  :shrug:
I swear, folks get weird living in the city... Must be something in that treatment plant water...
Title: Re: Donald Trump 'Will Not Accept' even If Ted Cruz Endorses Him
Post by: Doug Loss on July 23, 2016, 11:55:46 am
A couple of points. First, Cruz's career is over, so you should let that go for your own sake. More importantly, most conservatives and Republicans...just as principled if not moreso than yourself...fully support Mr. Trump. You are out there with the Bush-Romney-Kristol establishment axis, so enjoy yourself with those fine fellows. As for hero worship, it was Ted that you and your ilk called the "Chosen" one...that's where the crazy sits. The rest of us are supporting a ticket that will bring much needed change to Washington, and which will govern in an efficient and principled way. We worship no one, and see all the flaws in ALL of the candidates...including the man we are supporting.

So you and your chosen one and the 15 other NeverTrump holdouts will do what you do...have fun. The door is always open should you ever return to sanity.

Your "couple of points" are totally untrue, of course.  "Most" conservatives fully support Trump?  That's just a flat lie.  As for Trump bringing "much needed change to Washington," and governing "in an efficient and principled way," you sound just like the Obama acolytes from 2008.  You're not capable of self-observation, are you?  And you constantly project your shortcomings onto the rest of us, who have seen through the cloud of dissimulation you constantly put out.
Title: Re: Donald Trump 'Will Not Accept' even If Ted Cruz Endorses Him
Post by: Doug Loss on July 23, 2016, 11:58:27 am
Actually Cruz wrote off his own entire political career, he's no longer relevant.............perhaps it was Cruz who should have gone third party.... then those who hold tightly to what they perceive as Conservatisim would at least have a candidate to support.

Oh please.  Cruz did absolutely nothing to hurt himself politically by giving the best speech of the convention.  If anything, he bolstered his career.  And "what they perceive" as conservatism is in fact, conservatism.  As opposed to the populist worship of the "big man" that you Trumpists seem to think is a principled belief in something or other.
Title: Re: Donald Trump 'Will Not Accept' even If Ted Cruz Endorses Him
Post by: John W on July 23, 2016, 12:06:25 pm
SOURCE: ABC NEWS

URL: http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/donald-trump-accept-ted-cruz-endorses/story?id=40801990 (http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/donald-trump-accept-ted-cruz-endorses/story?id=40801990)

by:  VERONICA STRACQUALURSI ADAM KELSEY NOAH FITZGEREL 



Thanking his volunteers in Cleveland a day after the Republican National Convention wrapped, GOP presidential nominee Donald Trump today slammed Ted Cruz's Wednesday night speech and said he “will not accept” if the Texas senator ever decides to endorse him.

"Honestly, he may have ruined his political career. I feel so badly," Trump said this morning of Cruz, his former primary rival.

Cruz was booed off the stage on the third day of the convention for suggesting that people should “vote their conscience” in November. The Texas senator defended his speech the next morning at a Texas delegate breakfast, arguing he’s “not in the habit of supporting someone who attacks my wife and attacks my father.”

Bur Trump said this morning that Cruz will “come and endorse over the next little while. It's because he has no choice. But I don't want his endorsement. What difference does it make?"

"Ted, just stay home, relax, enjoy yourself," Trump said to laughter from the crowd of supporters and convention volunteers.

Trump said he reviewed a version of Cruz's speech, which included no endorsement, but allowed him to take the stage anyway Wednesday night.

“He got up and he added a sentence, which could have been viewed as a nasty thing in terms of what he said because he was implying something which is wrong. But that's OK,” Trump said, referring to Cruz’s “vote your conscience" line.

CLICK ABOVE LINK FOR THE REST....

Sure it's been posted in the pages before this but who/what should the GOP candidate be focusing on day after convention ended?
Title: Re: Donald Trump 'Will Not Accept' even If Ted Cruz Endorses Him
Post by: Mechanicos on July 23, 2016, 12:32:16 pm
Oh please.  Cruz did absolutely nothing to hurt himself politically by giving the best speech of the convention.  If anything, he bolstered his career.  And "what they perceive" as conservatism is in fact, conservatism.  As opposed to the populist worship of the "big man" that you Trumpists seem to think is a principled belief in something or other.
Hes toast.

http://truthfeed.com/sore-loser-ted-cruz-destroyed-on-his-own-facebook-page-by-former-cruz-supporters/12591/
Title: Re: Donald Trump 'Will Not Accept' even If Ted Cruz Endorses Him
Post by: Henry Noel on July 23, 2016, 12:57:19 pm
Trump is one of that sort who believes that every man has his price, and it frustrates him to think that this doesn't apply to Cruz.
Title: Re: Donald Trump 'Will Not Accept' even If Ted Cruz Endorses Him
Post by: Sanguine on July 23, 2016, 01:23:43 pm
Your "couple of points" are totally untrue, of course.  "Most" conservatives fully support Trump?  That's just a flat lie.  As for Trump bringing "much needed change to Washington," and governing "in an efficient and principled way," you sound just like the Obama acolytes from 2008.  You're not capable of self-observation, are you?  And you constantly project your shortcomings onto the rest of us, who have seen through the cloud of dissimulation you constantly put out.

Whoa - that was beautiful!
Title: Re: Donald Trump 'Will Not Accept' even If Ted Cruz Endorses Him
Post by: Sanguine on July 23, 2016, 01:26:28 pm
Sure it's been posted in the pages before this but who/what should the GOP candidate be focusing on day after convention ended?

His own party members?   Isn't that the right answer?  I guess it depends on what he considers his party.
Title: Re: Donald Trump 'Will Not Accept' even If Ted Cruz Endorses Him
Post by: Doug Loss on July 23, 2016, 03:32:12 pm
Hes toast.

http://truthfeed.com/sore-loser-ted-cruz-destroyed-on-his-own-facebook-page-by-former-cruz-supporters/12591/

Given your demonstrated incorrectness in pretty much all things, I'd say that's good evidence that he's riding high.