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Title: Ted Cruz, once a Trump rival, worked to save his presidency
Post by: corbe on February 17, 2020, 05:37:09 pm
Ted Cruz, once a Trump rival, worked to save his presidency

Ted Cruz once called Trump ‘utterly amoral’ and a ‘sniveling coward.’ Then he worked to save his presidency.

by Mike DeBonis, The Washington Post Feb. 15, 2020 1 PM

Donald Trump called him “Lyin’ Ted” Cruz, mocked his wife’s appearance and falsely suggested his father was involved in President John F. Kennedy’s assassination.

Cruz called Trump a “sniveling coward,” a “pathological liar” and “utterly amoral,” and infuriated Republicans when he declined to endorse the nominee at the 2016 Republican National Convention.

Four years later, one of the nastiest rivalries in recent memory — a brawl both personal and political — has given way to a mutually beneficial partnership forged in the crucible of impeachment.

Working inside the Senate and out, Cruz (R-Tex.) played a unique role in securing Trump’s swift acquittal at the third-ever presidential impeachment trial — simultaneously serving as legal strategist, jury consultant, messaging guru, broadcast surrogate and, unexpectedly, a breakout podcasting star.

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https://www.texastribune.org/2020/02/15/ted-cruz-once-trump-rival-worked-save-his-presidency/ (https://www.texastribune.org/2020/02/15/ted-cruz-once-trump-rival-worked-save-his-presidency/)
Title: Re: Ted Cruz, once a Trump rival, worked to save his presidency
Post by: catfish1957 on February 17, 2020, 05:59:26 pm
Ted Cruz, once a Trump rival, worked to save his presidency

Ted Cruz once called Trump ‘utterly amoral’ and a ‘sniveling coward.’ Then he worked to save his presidency.

by Mike DeBonis, The Washington Post Feb. 15, 2020 1 PM

Donald Trump called him “Lyin’ Ted” Cruz, mocked his wife’s appearance and falsely suggested his father was involved in President John F. Kennedy’s assassination.

Cruz called Trump a “sniveling coward,” a “pathological liar” and “utterly amoral,” and infuriated Republicans when he declined to endorse the nominee at the 2016 Republican National Convention.

Four years later, one of the nastiest rivalries in recent memory — a brawl both personal and political — has given way to a mutually beneficial partnership forged in the crucible of impeachment.

Working inside the Senate and out, Cruz (R-Tex.) played a unique role in securing Trump’s swift acquittal at the third-ever presidential impeachment trial — simultaneously serving as legal strategist, jury consultant, messaging guru, broadcast surrogate and, unexpectedly, a breakout podcasting star.

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https://www.texastribune.org/2020/02/15/ted-cruz-once-trump-rival-worked-save-his-presidency/ (https://www.texastribune.org/2020/02/15/ted-cruz-once-trump-rival-worked-save-his-presidency/)

And at the turd-fested TOS, they still call him Lyin' Ted.
Title: Re: Ted Cruz, once a Trump rival, worked to save his presidency
Post by: GtHawk on February 17, 2020, 08:40:28 pm
And at the turd-fested TOS, they still call him Lyin' Ted.
Only at the TOS?
Title: Re: Ted Cruz, once a Trump rival, worked to save his presidency
Post by: libertybele on February 17, 2020, 08:45:20 pm
Ted Cruz, once a Trump rival, worked to save his presidency

Ted Cruz once called Trump ‘utterly amoral’ and a ‘sniveling coward.’ Then he worked to save his presidency.

by Mike DeBonis, The Washington Post Feb. 15, 2020 1 PM

Donald Trump called him “Lyin’ Ted” Cruz, mocked his wife’s appearance and falsely suggested his father was involved in President John F. Kennedy’s assassination.

Cruz called Trump a “sniveling coward,” a “pathological liar” and “utterly amoral,” and infuriated Republicans when he declined to endorse the nominee at the 2016 Republican National Convention.

Four years later, one of the nastiest rivalries in recent memory — a brawl both personal and political — has given way to a mutually beneficial partnership forged in the crucible of impeachment.

Working inside the Senate and out, Cruz (R-Tex.) played a unique role in securing Trump’s swift acquittal at the third-ever presidential impeachment trial — simultaneously serving as legal strategist, jury consultant, messaging guru, broadcast surrogate and, unexpectedly, a breakout podcasting star.

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https://www.texastribune.org/2020/02/15/ted-cruz-once-trump-rival-worked-save-his-presidency/ (https://www.texastribune.org/2020/02/15/ted-cruz-once-trump-rival-worked-save-his-presidency/)

Ted Cruz still rocks!   Trump was a fool not to offer him the VP spot.  Then again, Trump has a record of not appointing the best people.
Title: Re: Ted Cruz, once a Trump rival, worked to save his presidency
Post by: skeeter on February 17, 2020, 08:53:41 pm
Ted Cruz still rocks!   Trump was a fool not to offer him the VP spot.  Then again, Trump has a record of not appointing the best people.

His skills would be best used on SCOTUS. We would be benefitting from his brainpower for decades to come.
Title: Re: Ted Cruz, once a Trump rival, worked to save his presidency
Post by: libertybele on February 17, 2020, 09:13:12 pm
His skills would be best used on SCOTUS. We would be benefitting from his brainpower for decades to come.

His brainpower would well serve us as our next president ... then I'd like to see him take a seat on the bench.
Title: Re: Ted Cruz, once a Trump rival, worked to save his presidency
Post by: corbe on February 17, 2020, 09:22:21 pm
    It worked the first time it was tried, for the most part @libertybele

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Title: Re: Ted Cruz, once a Trump rival, worked to save his presidency
Post by: skeeter on February 17, 2020, 09:24:03 pm
His brainpower would well serve us as our next president ... then I'd like to see him take a seat on the bench.

I agree. I just do not think today's electorate has the depth, the attention span nor critical thinking skills to choose him.
Title: Re: Ted Cruz, once a Trump rival, worked to save his presidency
Post by: libertybele on February 17, 2020, 09:50:06 pm
I agree. I just do not think today's electorate has the depth, the attention span nor critical thinking skills to choose him.

That is certainly true; that was proven back in '16.  However, I would hope that the electorate would be smart enough to select him over someone like Bloomberg, Buttgig or Bernie. 

Just an observation -- ever notice that somehow the DEMS always wind up with 3 stooges??

Oop, my bad -- I forgot Biden -- so we have Biden, Bloomberg, Butgig or Bernie -- the 4 __________??? 

@corbe perhaps time for one of your infamous polls??
Title: Re: Ted Cruz, once a Trump rival, worked to save his presidency
Post by: corbe on February 17, 2020, 10:17:34 pm
   Anything for you Hon!
   @libertybele

http://www.gopbriefingroom.com/index.php/topic,392138.0.html (http://www.gopbriefingroom.com/index.php/topic,392138.0.html)
Title: Re: Ted Cruz, once a Trump rival, worked to save his presidency
Post by: sneakypete on February 18, 2020, 01:51:55 am
His skills would be best used on SCOTUS. We would be benefitting from his brainpower for decades to come.

@skeeter

I still don't trust him as a political ally,but there can be no question about him being VERY smart,and putting him on the SC would get him out of elective office and allow him to concentrate solely on the law and the Constitution.

The only real question left that needs to be answered first is "Who is standing in line to take over for him as a US Senator from Texas"? This is not a throwaway question,either.
Title: Re: Ted Cruz, once a Trump rival, worked to save his presidency
Post by: sneakypete on February 18, 2020, 01:54:05 am
That is certainly true; that was proven back in '16.  However, I would hope that the electorate would be smart enough to select him over someone like Bloomberg, Buttgig or Bernie. 

 

@libertybele

Hell,compared to THOSE loons,*I* would make a great president,and my presidency would be a LOT more entertaining than any of theirs.

"Sneakypete for CMMFIC!" Pass it on.
Title: Re: Ted Cruz, once a Trump rival, worked to save his presidency
Post by: catfish1957 on February 18, 2020, 02:13:56 am
@skeeter

I still don't trust him as a political ally,but there can be no question about him being VERY smart,and putting him on the SC would get him out of elective office and allow him to concentrate solely on the law and the Constitution.

The only real question left that needs to be answered first is "Who is standing in line to take over for him as a US Senator from Texas"? This is not a throwaway question,either.

Abbott comes to mind, but he is damn valuable as governor too.
Title: Re: Ted Cruz, once a Trump rival, worked to save his presidency
Post by: libertybele on February 18, 2020, 02:14:29 am
@libertybele

Hell,compared to THOSE loons,*I* would make a great president,and my presidency would be a LOT more entertaining than any of theirs.

"Sneakypete for CMMFIC!" Pass it on.

I have no doubt you'd be a better president than any of the bat crap crazy liberal loonies...only problem is Congress is also full of them.  That's why I continue to pray for Trump -- he has to put up with their lunacy on a daily basis.
Title: Re: Ted Cruz, once a Trump rival, worked to save his presidency
Post by: sneakypete on February 18, 2020, 02:18:14 am
Abbott comes to mind, but he is damn valuable as governor too.

@catfish1957

I am not from Texas and don't know the first thing about him,but if you think he is a good possibility,you need to be pushing him to run if Cruz goes to the Supremes. Remind him of how little influence governors really have on politics compared to US Senators,and remind him a US Senate seat is for all practical purposes,a life-time seat.
Title: Re: Ted Cruz, once a Trump rival, worked to save his presidency
Post by: sneakypete on February 18, 2020, 02:23:51 am
I have no doubt you'd be a better president than any of the bat crap crazy liberal loonies...only problem is Congress is also full of them.  That's why I continue to pray for Trump -- he has to put up with their lunacy on a daily basis.

@libertybele

Don't worry about Trump. Remember,he grew up in NYC and dealing with greedy,selfish,crooked loons has been a normal  part of his daily job for all his life. He got started in the rental property business working for his father as a teenager and seeing the bribes his father had to pay just to be able to get the permits needed to run his business,so he is well-versed in dealing with crooks. The difference is now he is in the catbirds seat,and THEY have to please him.

I don't know about you,but to me,Trump just doesn't seem like the "forget and forgive" type. I strongly suspect he is having the time of his life.
Title: Re: Ted Cruz, once a Trump rival, worked to save his presidency
Post by: corbe on February 18, 2020, 02:32:04 am
   I would have untied my tubes and had this guy's baby (Cruz) in 2016, alas, now the Thrill is Gone.  He's still better than anyone out there  @LegalAmerican
Title: Re: Ted Cruz, once a Trump rival, worked to save his presidency
Post by: Axeslinger on February 18, 2020, 02:37:05 am
@libertybele
That is certainly true; that was proven back in '16.  However, I would hope that the electorate would be smart enough to select him over someone like Bloomberg, Buttgig or Bernie. 

Just an observation -- ever notice that somehow the DEMS always wind up with 3 stooges??

Oop, my bad -- I forgot Biden -- so we have Biden, Bloomberg, Butgig or Bernie -- the 4 Horsemen of the Apocalypse ??? 

@corbe perhaps time for one of your infamous polls??
Title: Re: Ted Cruz, once a Trump rival, worked to save his presidency
Post by: roamer_1 on February 18, 2020, 04:41:56 am
   I would have untied my tubes and had this guy's baby (Cruz) in 2016, alas, now the Thrill is Gone.  He's still better than anyone out there  @LegalAmerican

I am there too, less the homosexual tones. He's becoming a disappointment.
Title: Re: Ted Cruz, once a Trump rival, worked to save his presidency
Post by: Chosen Daughter on February 18, 2020, 05:19:24 am
@libertybele

Don't worry about Trump. Remember,he grew up in NYC and dealing with greedy,selfish,crooked loons has been a normal  part of his daily job for all his life. He got started in the rental property business working for his father as a teenager and seeing the bribes his father had to pay just to be able to get the permits needed to run his business,so he is well-versed in dealing with crooks. The difference is now he is in the catbirds seat,and THEY have to please him.

I don't know about you,but to me,Trump just doesn't seem like the "forget and forgive" type. I strongly suspect he is having the time of his life.

How could anyone forget?  He is the New York loon.
Title: Re: Ted Cruz, once a Trump rival, worked to save his presidency
Post by: sneakypete on February 18, 2020, 06:15:35 am
    He's still better than anyone out there  @LegalAmerican

@corbe

I believe that is called "Praising with faint damns".
Title: Re: Ted Cruz, once a Trump rival, worked to save his presidency
Post by: sneakypete on February 18, 2020, 06:17:18 am
How could anyone forget?  He is the New York loon.

@Chosen Daughter

You mean,as opposed to being your hometown loon?
Title: Re: Ted Cruz, once a Trump rival, worked to save his presidency
Post by: Idiot on February 18, 2020, 03:08:00 pm
@Chosen Daughter

You mean,as opposed to being your hometown loon?
888mouth
Title: Re: Ted Cruz, once a Trump rival, worked to save his presidency
Post by: bilo on February 19, 2020, 12:05:58 am
Ted Cruz still rocks!   Trump was a fool not to offer him the VP spot.  Then again, Trump has a record of not appointing the best people.

Even better would have been to push him to accept a SCOTUS nomination.

I really wanted Cruz to be POTUS and my belief in him has grown in watching him put aside his animosity and work with Trump from the beginning of his Presidency.
Title: Re: Ted Cruz, once a Trump rival, worked to save his presidency
Post by: bilo on February 19, 2020, 12:07:35 am
I agree. I just do not think today's electorate has the depth, the attention span nor critical thinking skills to choose him.

Unfortunately, I think you're right.
Title: Re: Ted Cruz, once a Trump rival, worked to save his presidency
Post by: txradioguy on February 19, 2020, 01:12:57 am
And at the turd-fested TOS, they still call him Lyin' Ted.

Or maybe...even when you don't agree with the person...you can still work to save them because the rule of law and the Constitution are more important than one particular person at one particular time.

I detest Progressive Liberals...hate everything they stand for...but as a soldier I'd lay down my life for every stinking one of them.  If I as a private citizen with a Kentucky issued CCDW was in a store and one of their lives was threatened along with mine by some thug...I'd protect them.

Does that mean I like them or have suddenly had an awakening about Progressive Liberals?  No they will still hate me 5 minutes after I saved their life or was laid to rest in Arlington.

Its about doing the right thing no matter who it's for.
Title: Re: Ted Cruz, once a Trump rival, worked to save his presidency
Post by: corbe on February 19, 2020, 01:30:28 am
   As some on here forever pontificate,
   It may be much too late
   For us mere mortals to accept our repeated fate.

   We are due to cross the Green Mountain, again.



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Title: Re: Ted Cruz, once a Trump rival, worked to save his presidency
Post by: sneakypete on February 19, 2020, 01:49:43 am
Even better would have been to push him to accept a SCOTUS nomination.



@bilo

NOBODY picks a VP running mate that is as popular as they are. They always pick someone nobody really wants as a President in order to keep people from stabbing them in the back and trying to seat the VP.
Title: Re: Ted Cruz, once a Trump rival, worked to save his presidency
Post by: bilo on February 19, 2020, 03:25:33 pm
@bilo

NOBODY picks a VP running mate that is as popular as they are. They always pick someone nobody really wants as a President in order to keep people from stabbing them in the back and trying to seat the VP.

I'm sure personality plays a part, but usually the VP is someone who can carry a needed state, or voting block.
Title: Re: Ted Cruz, once a Trump rival, worked to save his presidency
Post by: sneakypete on February 19, 2020, 05:12:23 pm
I'm sure personality plays a part, but usually the VP is someone who can carry a needed state, or voting block.

@bilo

Kinda like Goldilocks pudding. Not to hot,not to cold,but "just right".

Truth to tell,it's not a bad gig for a politician ready to retire anyhow,and who knows he has no chance of running for and winning the presidency.
Title: Re: Ted Cruz, once a Trump rival, worked to save his presidency
Post by: txradioguy on February 19, 2020, 05:31:02 pm
@bilo

NOBODY picks a VP running mate that is as popular as they are. They always pick someone nobody really wants as a President in order to keep people from stabbing them in the back and trying to seat the VP.

Or they pick them to win a certain state.  Why do you think Kennedy picked LBJ?
Title: Re: Ted Cruz, once a Trump rival, worked to save his presidency
Post by: sneakypete on February 19, 2020, 05:32:54 pm
Or they pick them to win a certain state.  Why do you think Kennedy picked LBJ?

@txradioguy

Good point! It damn sure wasn't because they were goombas.
Title: Re: Ted Cruz, once a Trump rival, worked to save his presidency
Post by: GrouchoTex on February 19, 2020, 05:53:58 pm
@skeeter

 "Who is standing in line to take over for him as a US Senator from Texas"? This is not a throwaway question,either.

@sneakypete

No one comes to mind...
Title: Re: Ted Cruz, once a Trump rival, worked to save his presidency
Post by: corbe on February 19, 2020, 06:41:00 pm
(http://static4.businessinsider.com/image/58802760f10a9a6c008b8e28-1952/undefined)

                Hey, I'm currently between Gigs.
Title: Re: Ted Cruz, once a Trump rival, worked to save his presidency
Post by: txradioguy on February 19, 2020, 06:44:02 pm
@skeeter

I still don't trust him as a political ally,but there can be no question about him being VERY smart,and putting him on the SC would get him out of elective office and allow him to concentrate solely on the law and the Constitution.

The only real question left that needs to be answered first is "Who is standing in line to take over for him as a US Senator from Texas"? This is not a throwaway question,either.

Putting Cruz on the SC is s dumb move and would only serve to silence one of the true Conservatives voices willing to stand up to McConnell and the rest of the establishment Pubs in the Senate.

I think if anyone were to take Cruz'z place as Senator should he choose to move on or move up it would either be Dan Crenshaw or Louie Gohmert.

Title: Re: Ted Cruz, once a Trump rival, worked to save his presidency
Post by: txradioguy on February 19, 2020, 06:45:36 pm
(http://static4.businessinsider.com/image/58802760f10a9a6c008b8e28-1952/undefined)

                Hey, I'm currently between Gigs.

Nope! Nope! HELL NO!  The state has had enough of Gov. Goodhair!
Title: Re: Ted Cruz, once a Trump rival, worked to save his presidency
Post by: corbe on February 19, 2020, 06:47:48 pm
   I could certainly get behind Gohmert, he would give Mitch heartburn, everyday.
Title: Re: Ted Cruz, once a Trump rival, worked to save his presidency
Post by: catfish1957 on February 19, 2020, 07:50:43 pm
Nope! Nope! HELL NO!  The state has had enough of Gov. Goodhair!

You know, there are probably 3 reasons I would want Guv Good Hair, but I can't even think of one.   :silly:
Title: Re: Ted Cruz, once a Trump rival, worked to save his presidency
Post by: berdie on February 19, 2020, 09:29:57 pm
Nope! Nope! HELL NO!  The state has had enough of Gov. Goodhair!



I don't think Perry did a bad job a gov. But I really don't think he will sell well with the rest of the country. If you are talking about gaurdiisil...that was junk politics.
Title: Re: Ted Cruz, once a Trump rival, worked to save his presidency
Post by: GrouchoTex on February 19, 2020, 10:16:16 pm
(http://static4.businessinsider.com/image/58802760f10a9a6c008b8e28-1952/undefined)

                Hey, I'm currently between Gigs.

Hopefully, he's had his last gig as an elected politician.
Remember his big imminent domain push to build the Mexico-to-Canada super NAFTA highway?
Enough people got wind of it to raise hell and put a stop to it.
At the end of the day, they ended up designating existing freeways as part of the "Super Highway".
Title: Re: Ted Cruz, once a Trump rival, worked to save his presidency
Post by: catfish1957 on February 19, 2020, 10:19:42 pm
Hopefully, he's had his last gig as an elected politician.
Remember his big imminent domain push to build the Mexico-to-Canada super NAFTA highway?
Enough people got wind of it to raise hell and put a stop to it.
At the end of the day, they ended up designating existing freeways as part of the "Super Highway".

Think we need to show the non-Texans a "real governor"

(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/3/3f/Greg_Abbott_by_Gage_Skidmore.jpg/220px-Greg_Abbott_by_Gage_Skidmore.jpg)
Title: Re: Ted Cruz, once a Trump rival, worked to save his presidency
Post by: GrouchoTex on February 19, 2020, 10:20:21 pm
Think we need to show the non-Texans a "real governor"

(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/3/3f/Greg_Abbott_by_Gage_Skidmore.jpg/220px-Greg_Abbott_by_Gage_Skidmore.jpg)

 :beer:

and again

 :beer:
Title: Re: Ted Cruz, once a Trump rival, worked to save his presidency
Post by: Sighlass on February 19, 2020, 10:35:11 pm
They all suck... big nanners ....

Ok, I don't have a dog in this Tex fight.... but since everyone is an expert on Alabama... why not.

Some wrap up smear on Perry should fit in nicely... from the same Wapo author that wrote the smear in our state...

(https://i.postimg.cc/CL1zNHZT/Tigger-Rock-Mud.jpg)

Wonder if anyone will get my pun.... ?