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Title: Who are we dropping from the MAGA supporters due to recent performances
Post by: yodaspock on January 07, 2021, 03:37:19 pm
List of Politicians  who left The MAGA Tribe:     

Name  MINO  =MAGA In Name Only
   
MIMO members List:
   Lez Chainey
   Mutt Romney
   Mumbai Mike Lee
   Cocaine Mitch McConnell
   Tom Cotton
   Mike Pence
   Mick Mulvaney
   
Title: Re: Who are we dropping from the MAGA supporters due to recent performances
Post by: massadvj on January 07, 2021, 03:59:04 pm
If Mike Lee and Tom Cotton are not MAGA then you cannot lay claim that MAGA is a conservative movement.
Title: Re: Who are we dropping from the MAGA supporters due to recent performances
Post by: Weird Tolkienish Figure on January 07, 2021, 04:05:43 pm
If Mike Lee and Tom Cotton are not MAGA then you cannot lay claim that MAGA is a conservative movement.

I cannot wait until Trump himself is declared an enemy of MAGA.
Title: Re: Who are we dropping from the MAGA supporters due to recent performances
Post by: Avalon1 on January 07, 2021, 07:19:11 pm
Also Roy Blunt R-MO, he's useless and a fool. He just collects his paychecks and doesn't do much of anything.
Title: Re: Who are we dropping from the MAGA supporters due to recent performances
Post by: jafo2010 on January 07, 2021, 07:53:45 pm
Useless and collecting a check, you could use those sentiments for anyone in Congress.  This is why we need TERM LIMITS and to end pension programs for these legislators.  Get in, serve the people and get out.  The day of having statesmen/women is long over.
Title: Re: Who are we dropping from the MAGA supporters due to recent performances
Post by: Avalon1 on January 07, 2021, 09:23:08 pm
My other two state senators Billy Long and Josh Hawley pull their weight, I've been very happy with them. Roy Blunt does not, and I think he's too old and needs to retire. And you're right he probably just thinks of it as a pension program. I get his newsletter about every 3 months about some little project he's working on, nothing special.
Title: Re: Who are we dropping from the MAGA supporters due to recent performances
Post by: catfish1957 on January 07, 2021, 09:27:42 pm
I don't think there is really much a MAGA political tribe left.  Well at least one with Trump as Chief.

Sadly, I think DJT's last two weeks are going to be an exercise of avoiding a 25th Amendment event. MSM has been banging the drum every minute today
Title: Re: Who are we dropping from the MAGA supporters due to recent performances
Post by: Avalon1 on January 07, 2021, 09:27:44 pm
Mike Pence will be forever known as a traitor and a backstabber, his political career is dead nobody is going to vote for him. Theirs a few things that he could have done but he chose not to take action.
Title: Re: Who are we dropping from the MAGA supporters due to recent performances
Post by: LegalAmerican on January 07, 2021, 10:04:43 pm
If Mike Lee and Tom Cotton are not MAGA then you cannot lay claim that MAGA is a conservative movement.

What?  MIKE LEE is a mormon and for NWO....like Romney. Still hung up on word "conservative"?  TRY. PATRIOTS.   
Title: Re: Who are we dropping from the MAGA supporters due to recent performances
Post by: LegalAmerican on January 07, 2021, 10:10:18 pm
GOP TRAITORS.  In the interest of saving our country,  will this be allowed on here?  Make people aware? 

Amodei Republican Nevada
Armstrong Republican North Dakota
Bacon Republican Nebraska
Balderson Republican Ohio
Barr Republican Kentucky
Bentz Republican Oregon
Buchanan Republican Florida
Buck Republican Colorado
Bucshon Republican Indiana
Chabot Republican Ohio
Cheney Republican Wyoming
Comer Republican Kentucky
Crenshaw Republican Texas
Curtis Republican Utah
Davis, Rodney Republican Illinois
Emmer Republican Minnesota
Feenstra Republican Iowa
Ferguson Republican Georgia
Fitzpatrick Republican Pennsylvania
Fortenberry Republican Nebraska
Foxx Republican North Carolina
Gallagher Republican Wisconsin
Garbarino Republican New York
Gonzales, Tony Republican Texas
Gonzalez (OH) Republican Ohio
Graves (LA) Republican Louisiana
Grothman Republican Wisconsin
Guthrie Republican Kentucky
Herrera Beutler Republican Washington
Hill Republican Arkansas
Hinson Republican Iowa
Hollingsworth Republican Indiana
Huizenga Republican Michigan
Johnson (SD) Republican South Dakota
Joyce (OH) Republican Ohio
Katko Republican New York
Keller Republican Pennsylvania
Kinzinger Republican Illinois
Kustoff Republican Tennessee
LaHood Republican Illinois
Latta Republican Ohio
Mace Republican South Carolina
Massie Republican Kentucky
McCaul Republican Texas
McClintock Republican California
McHenry Republican North Carolina
McKinley Republican West Virginia
Meijer Republican Michigan
Meuser Republican Pennsylvania
Miller-Meeks Republican Iowa
Moolenaar Republican Michigan
Mooney Republican West Virginia
Moore (UT) Republican Utah
Murphy (NC) Republican North Carolina
Newhouse Republican Washington
Owens Republican Utah
Pence Republican Indiana
Reed Republican New York
Rodgers (WA) Republican Washington
Roy Republican Texas
Schweikert Republican Arizona
Scott, Austin Republican Georgia
Simpson Republican Idaho
Smith (NJ) Republican New Jersey
Smucker Republican Pennsylvania
Spartz Republican Indiana
Stauber Republican Minnesota
Stefanik Republican New York
Steil Republican Wisconsin
Stewart Republican Utah
Stivers Republican Ohio
Taylor Republican Texas
Thompson (PA) Republican Pennsylvania
Turner Republican Ohio
Upton Republican Michigan
Van Duyne Republican Texas
Wagner Republican Missouri
Waltz Republican Florida
Wenstrup Republican Ohio
Westerman Republican Arkansas
Wittman Republican Virginia
Womack Republican Arkansas
Young Republican Alaska

Title: Re: Who are we dropping from the MAGA supporters due to recent performances
Post by: Smokin Joe on January 07, 2021, 10:13:47 pm
Armstrong indicated his intent to try to play Pontius Pilate through the affair ahead of time.

This is no time for cowards.

Title: Re: Who are we dropping from the MAGA supporters due to recent performances
Post by: LegalAmerican on January 07, 2021, 10:21:38 pm
Useless and collecting a check, you could use those sentiments for anyone in Congress.  This is why we need TERM LIMITS and to end pension programs for these legislators.  Get in, serve the people and get out.  The day of having statesmen/women is long over.


 :thumbsup:  :thumbsup:   :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Who are we dropping from the MAGA supporters due to recent performances
Post by: Right_in_Virginia on January 07, 2021, 10:30:57 pm
If Mike Lee and Tom Cotton are not MAGA then you cannot lay claim that MAGA is a conservative movement.

 :bs:
Title: Re: Who are we dropping from the MAGA supporters due to recent performances
Post by: LegalAmerican on January 07, 2021, 10:43:29 pm
My other two state senators Billy Long and Josh Hawley pull their weight, I've been very happy with them. Roy Blunt does not, and I think he's too old and needs to retire. And you're right he probably just thinks of it as a pension program. I get his newsletter about every 3 months about some little project he's working on, nothing special.

Roy is one of the dirty dozen. RINO.  SOME OVER LAPPED WITH BEING TRAITORS TO AMERICANS.
-----------------------------------
The 12 Senate Republicans who voted AGAINST PRESIDENT TRUMP for NATIONAL EMERGENCY ON BORDER;

 Roger Wicker of Mississippi,
Marco Rubio of Florida,
 Rob Portman of Ohio,
 Susan Collins of Maine,
 Lisa Murkowski of Alaska,
Pat Toomey of Pennsylvania,
 ****************************Roy Blunt of Missouri,
 Lamar Alexander of Tennessee,
 Mitt Romney of Utah,
 Rand Paul of Kentucky,
Jerry Moran of Kansas
and Mike Lee of Utah.
Title: Re: Who are we dropping from the MAGA supporters due to recent performances
Post by: libertybele on January 07, 2021, 10:57:42 pm
If Mike Lee and Tom Cotton are not MAGA then you cannot lay claim that MAGA is a conservative movement.

Mike Lee has proven several times that he is far from a conservative and Cotton went on record that he didn't want to object to the certification of votes. Graham as well.  ALL are RINOs at best.  Lee has been a disappointment for quite sometime and has gone against Trump on several occasions.  Lee has voted or sided with liberals.  Nope.  He is no longer of use to the conservative movement. Neither is Graham or Cotton.

I will NEVER vote just because they are considered GOP.  If they aren't conservative they do NOT earn my vote period.
Title: Re: Who are we dropping from the MAGA supporters due to recent performances
Post by: yodaspock on January 07, 2021, 11:23:48 pm
Thanks for all the input!

Mike Lee makes the list because he wants unlimited tech immigration from India and China!
It's personal since I was forced to retire early from the tech business.

Since all these RINO's heads are popping up now what name is being used for the old GOP members with the business is everything ideas?
Title: Re: Who are we dropping from the MAGA supporters due to recent performances
Post by: Avalon1 on January 08, 2021, 12:33:06 am
I'm not a fan of my governor Mike Parson I suspect he's a RINO too, I think he's a part of the swamp Republican Party and he's never really said anything about Donald Trump so I don't think he is MAGA. He's okay but I think that Missouri could do better. I didn't vote for him, I voted for Saundra McDowell now she's a fighter and MAGA I think that she would make a great governor.
Title: Re: Who are we dropping from the MAGA supporters due to recent performances
Post by: Fishrrman on January 08, 2021, 12:48:27 am
Victor wrote:
"If Mike Lee and Tom Cotton are not MAGA then you cannot lay claim that MAGA is a conservative movement."

Have you ever stopped to consider that maybe it isn't...?
(and I don't mean for that to be taken in a disparaging way...)
Title: Re: Who are we dropping from the MAGA supporters due to recent performances
Post by: HoustonSam on January 08, 2021, 12:53:19 am
Victor wrote:
"If Mike Lee and Tom Cotton are not MAGA then you cannot lay claim that MAGA is a conservative movement."

Have you ever stopped to consider that maybe it isn't...?
(and I don't mean for that to be taken in a disparaging way...)

Excellent point @Fishrrman.  The sacred mantle of "Conservative" is quickly grabbed by by all kinds of people who oppose the Ds and the media, but all who take up that mantle aren't really Conservative.  That doesn't mean they are bad people, it means that "Conservative" is insufficiently defined.
Title: Re: Who are we dropping from the MAGA supporters due to recent performances
Post by: txradioguy on January 08, 2021, 01:03:08 am
Wow.  Who needs to worry about the fascist left purging anyone they disagree with politically from every day life...we've got so called Conservatives making the lists for them.

 *****rollingeyes*****
Title: Re: Who are we dropping from the MAGA supporters due to recent performances
Post by: txradioguy on January 08, 2021, 01:03:40 am
GOP TRAITORS.  In the interest of saving our country,  will this be allowed on here?  Make people aware? 

Amodei Republican Nevada
Armstrong Republican North Dakota
Bacon Republican Nebraska
Balderson Republican Ohio
Barr Republican Kentucky
Bentz Republican Oregon
Buchanan Republican Florida
Buck Republican Colorado
Bucshon Republican Indiana
Chabot Republican Ohio
Cheney Republican Wyoming
Comer Republican Kentucky
Crenshaw Republican Texas
Curtis Republican Utah
Davis, Rodney Republican Illinois
Emmer Republican Minnesota
Feenstra Republican Iowa
Ferguson Republican Georgia
Fitzpatrick Republican Pennsylvania
Fortenberry Republican Nebraska
Foxx Republican North Carolina
Gallagher Republican Wisconsin
Garbarino Republican New York
Gonzales, Tony Republican Texas
Gonzalez (OH) Republican Ohio
Graves (LA) Republican Louisiana
Grothman Republican Wisconsin
Guthrie Republican Kentucky
Herrera Beutler Republican Washington
Hill Republican Arkansas
Hinson Republican Iowa
Hollingsworth Republican Indiana
Huizenga Republican Michigan
Johnson (SD) Republican South Dakota
Joyce (OH) Republican Ohio
Katko Republican New York
Keller Republican Pennsylvania
Kinzinger Republican Illinois
Kustoff Republican Tennessee
LaHood Republican Illinois
Latta Republican Ohio
Mace Republican South Carolina
Massie Republican Kentucky
McCaul Republican Texas
McClintock Republican California
McHenry Republican North Carolina
McKinley Republican West Virginia
Meijer Republican Michigan
Meuser Republican Pennsylvania
Miller-Meeks Republican Iowa
Moolenaar Republican Michigan
Mooney Republican West Virginia
Moore (UT) Republican Utah
Murphy (NC) Republican North Carolina
Newhouse Republican Washington
Owens Republican Utah
Pence Republican Indiana
Reed Republican New York
Rodgers (WA) Republican Washington
Roy Republican Texas
Schweikert Republican Arizona
Scott, Austin Republican Georgia
Simpson Republican Idaho
Smith (NJ) Republican New Jersey
Smucker Republican Pennsylvania
Spartz Republican Indiana
Stauber Republican Minnesota
Stefanik Republican New York
Steil Republican Wisconsin
Stewart Republican Utah
Stivers Republican Ohio
Taylor Republican Texas
Thompson (PA) Republican Pennsylvania
Turner Republican Ohio
Upton Republican Michigan
Van Duyne Republican Texas
Wagner Republican Missouri
Waltz Republican Florida
Wenstrup Republican Ohio
Westerman Republican Arkansas
Wittman Republican Virginia
Womack Republican Arkansas
Young Republican Alaska

Your post makes the DNC smile. 
Title: Re: Who are we dropping from the MAGA supporters due to recent performances
Post by: massadvj on January 08, 2021, 04:03:39 am
Victor wrote:
"If Mike Lee and Tom Cotton are not MAGA then you cannot lay claim that MAGA is a conservative movement."

Have you ever stopped to consider that maybe it isn't...?
(and I don't mean for that to be taken in a disparaging way...)

I always considered it more populist than conservative.  I was never a big fan of the trade protectionism and immigration policy, but realized these two issues were key to keeping the MAGA movement in the GOP tent. 
Title: Re: Who are we dropping from the MAGA supporters due to recent performances
Post by: Weird Tolkienish Figure on January 08, 2021, 10:51:43 am
GOP TRAITORS.  In the interest of saving our country,  will this be allowed on here?  Make people aware? 

Amodei Republican Nevada
Armstrong Republican North Dakota
Bacon Republican Nebraska
Balderson Republican Ohio
Barr Republican Kentucky
Bentz Republican Oregon
Buchanan Republican Florida
Buck Republican Colorado
Bucshon Republican Indiana
Chabot Republican Ohio
Cheney Republican Wyoming
Comer Republican Kentucky
Crenshaw Republican Texas
Curtis Republican Utah
Davis, Rodney Republican Illinois
Emmer Republican Minnesota
Feenstra Republican Iowa
Ferguson Republican Georgia
Fitzpatrick Republican Pennsylvania
Fortenberry Republican Nebraska
Foxx Republican North Carolina
Gallagher Republican Wisconsin
Garbarino Republican New York
Gonzales, Tony Republican Texas
Gonzalez (OH) Republican Ohio
Graves (LA) Republican Louisiana
Grothman Republican Wisconsin
Guthrie Republican Kentucky
Herrera Beutler Republican Washington
Hill Republican Arkansas
Hinson Republican Iowa
Hollingsworth Republican Indiana
Huizenga Republican Michigan
Johnson (SD) Republican South Dakota
Joyce (OH) Republican Ohio
Katko Republican New York
Keller Republican Pennsylvania
Kinzinger Republican Illinois
Kustoff Republican Tennessee
LaHood Republican Illinois
Latta Republican Ohio
Mace Republican South Carolina
Massie Republican Kentucky
McCaul Republican Texas
McClintock Republican California
McHenry Republican North Carolina
McKinley Republican West Virginia
Meijer Republican Michigan
Meuser Republican Pennsylvania
Miller-Meeks Republican Iowa
Moolenaar Republican Michigan
Mooney Republican West Virginia
Moore (UT) Republican Utah
Murphy (NC) Republican North Carolina
Newhouse Republican Washington
Owens Republican Utah
Pence Republican Indiana
Reed Republican New York
Rodgers (WA) Republican Washington
Roy Republican Texas
Schweikert Republican Arizona
Scott, Austin Republican Georgia
Simpson Republican Idaho
Smith (NJ) Republican New Jersey
Smucker Republican Pennsylvania
Spartz Republican Indiana
Stauber Republican Minnesota
Stefanik Republican New York
Steil Republican Wisconsin
Stewart Republican Utah
Stivers Republican Ohio
Taylor Republican Texas
Thompson (PA) Republican Pennsylvania
Turner Republican Ohio
Upton Republican Michigan
Van Duyne Republican Texas
Wagner Republican Missouri
Waltz Republican Florida
Wenstrup Republican Ohio
Westerman Republican Arkansas
Wittman Republican Virginia
Womack Republican Arkansas
Young Republican Alaska

Does disagreeing with Trump about anything make you a traitor? You basically sound exactly like the democrats right now.
Title: Re: Who are we dropping from the MAGA supporters due to recent performances
Post by: txradioguy on January 08, 2021, 01:08:19 pm
Does disagreeing with Trump about anything make you a traitor? You basically sound exactly like the democrats right now.

It’s always been that way with a lot of Trump supporters. 
Title: Re: Who are we dropping from the MAGA supporters due to recent performances
Post by: Right_in_Virginia on January 08, 2021, 01:26:28 pm
I always considered it more populist than conservative.  I was never a big fan of the trade protectionism and immigration policy, but realized these two issues were key to keeping the MAGA movement in the GOP tent.

@massadvj  Such elitist philosophies have translated into policies that help two factions: China and illegal immigrants working for less and voting Democrat.  Both factions take a sledge hammer to the American middle class.

But, then again, maybe the hammer is the goal.   :pondering:
Title: Re: Who are we dropping from the MAGA supporters due to recent performances
Post by: yodaspock on January 08, 2021, 01:57:17 pm
Please notice I am trying to define who is in the group of leaders that really don't have America's best interest's at heart. They have their own business interests at their heart. I am having trouble seeing why the leadership has a large percentage of Business interests. When the Populous Trump supporters represent huge percent of population and very few in the leadership. Is it just historical? Is it money issues? Something else ?

It appears that we need to do some redefining of the message to reflect the size of the Populous Group.
Title: Re: Who are we dropping from the MAGA supporters due to recent performances
Post by: catfish1957 on January 08, 2021, 02:36:26 pm
It’s always been that way with a lot of Trump supporters.

Disease first perpetuated by the "Lying Ted" meme.
Title: Re: Who are we dropping from the MAGA supporters due to recent performances
Post by: HoustonSam on January 08, 2021, 03:00:55 pm
Disease first perpetuated by the "Lying Ted" meme.

And it turns out that Ted was the last man standing in the fight in Congress.  For a guy who "only picks the best people", Trump sure screwed up on this one.  But then again narcissists do tend to have a pretty short event horizon in their thinking.
Title: Re: Who are we dropping from the MAGA supporters due to recent performances
Post by: txradioguy on January 08, 2021, 03:06:23 pm
Disease first perpetuated by the "Lying Ted" meme.

Yup. Sad how many still clutch to that lie. 
Title: Re: Who are we dropping from the MAGA supporters due to recent performances
Post by: MOD4 on January 08, 2021, 03:40:37 pm
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Title: Re: Who are we dropping from the MAGA supporters due to recent performances
Post by: catfish1957 on January 08, 2021, 03:45:47 pm
Yup. Sad how many still clutch to that lie.

And false perceptions stick.  It almost cost him his last election.
Title: Re: Who are we dropping from the MAGA supporters due to recent performances
Post by: skeeter on January 08, 2021, 03:46:44 pm
It’s always been that way with a lot of Trump supporters.

Its a common human failing, no? Isn't ascribing it to one group alone kinda doing the same thing?
Title: Re: Who are we dropping from the MAGA supporters due to recent performances
Post by: Cyber Liberty on January 08, 2021, 04:50:39 pm
Thanks for all the input!

Mike Lee makes the list because he wants unlimited tech immigration from India and China!
It's personal since I was forced to retire early from the tech business.

@yodaspock

I was in the same boat.  Fortunately, when that cup passed to me from the multi-national tech firm that bought my company, I was 60 when the layoff came.  I had been saving for many years because I knew the day was coming, so I had enough to simply retire (and thank the Dutch company for the severance package).
Title: Re: Who are we dropping from the MAGA supporters due to recent performances
Post by: PeteS in CA on January 08, 2021, 06:29:07 pm
Is Conservativier-Than-Thou orthodoxy compiling enemies lists? Lenin had Solovki ... Hitler had Dachau ... what do tri22 Conservativier-Than-Thou Super-Patriots tri22 have planned?

I'm no genius but it doesn't require brilliance to recognize that compiling enemies lists is the start of a road no one should want the US to travel.
Title: Re: Who are we dropping from the MAGA supporters due to recent performances
Post by: unite for individuality on January 08, 2021, 09:47:12 pm
If Mike Lee and Tom Cotton are not MAGA then you cannot lay claim that MAGA is a conservative movement.

I've been suspicious of Tom Cotton ever since he attended a Bilderberger meeting.

I've been suspicious of Mike Lee since ... several votes where he joined the enemy.

(I also endorse Replies #14 and #15.)
Title: Re: Who are we dropping from the MAGA supporters due to recent performances
Post by: roamer_1 on January 08, 2021, 09:53:53 pm
Is Conservativier-Than-Thou orthodoxy compiling enemies lists? Lenin had Solovki ... Hitler had Dachau ... what do tri22 Conservativier-Than-Thou Super-Patriots tri22 have planned?

I'm no genius but it doesn't require brilliance to recognize that compiling enemies lists is the start of a road no one should want the US to travel.

True. Except they are not Conservatier. Lest there would be no lists considered.
Title: Re: Who are we dropping from the MAGA supporters due to recent performances
Post by: Victoria33 on January 08, 2021, 11:38:53 pm
@roamer_1

I just saw on TV that Twitter has suspended Trump's account permanently.
Title: Re: Who are we dropping from the MAGA supporters due to recent performances
Post by: catfish1957 on January 08, 2021, 11:43:06 pm
@roamer_1

I just saw on TV that Twitter has suspended Trump's account permanently.

Perfect time to short Twitter Stock.  It's like telling Ford to quit selling trucks to Farmers.
Title: Re: Who are we dropping from the MAGA supporters due to recent performances
Post by: dfwgator on January 08, 2021, 11:43:53 pm
@roamer_1

I just saw on TV that Twitter has suspended Trump's account permanently.

50-50 he resigns by the end of the weekend.
Title: Re: Who are we dropping from the MAGA supporters due to recent performances
Post by: catfish1957 on January 08, 2021, 11:49:25 pm
50-50 he resigns by the end of the weekend.

Hope not.  As I stated on another thread, it is almost logisitcally impossible to conduct an impeachment and senate conviction in 8 business days.  Run the clock out....  Move on.
Title: Re: Who are we dropping from the MAGA supporters due to recent performances
Post by: dfwgator on January 08, 2021, 11:55:23 pm
Hope not.  As I stated on another thread, it is almost logisitcally impossible to conduct an impeachment and senate conviction in 8 business days.  Run the clock out....  Move on.

Things seem to be moving quickly though.
Title: Re: Who are we dropping from the MAGA supporters due to recent performances
Post by: Cyber Liberty on January 09, 2021, 12:15:19 am
Things seem to be moving quickly though.

Especially since Traitor Mike can drop the 25th Amendment on him.
Title: Re: Who are we dropping from the MAGA supporters due to recent performances
Post by: txradioguy on January 09, 2021, 02:44:39 am
Its a common human failing, no? Isn't ascribing it to one group alone kinda doing the same thing?

Sometimes yes.

This time...no.
Title: Re: Who are we dropping from the MAGA supporters due to recent performances
Post by: txradioguy on January 09, 2021, 02:45:24 am
@roamer_1

I just saw on TV that Twitter has suspended Trump's account permanently.

And they are removing anything he says via the official @POTUS account as well.  Effing fascists.
Title: Re: Who are we dropping from the MAGA supporters due to recent performances
Post by: Weird Tolkienish Figure on January 09, 2021, 04:13:24 am
And they are removing anything he says via the official @POTUS account as well.  Effing fascists.

People should just repost what he says on Twitter. Are they going to ban tens of millions of people? Frankly I wouldn't mind it... I've been looking to get out of Twitter for years now, you cannot outright close your account, you suspend it, just like bookface. Every time I do something in the news happens and I log in again (like an idiot).

Do they really think you can ban speech that tens of millions of people want to hear in the digital age? Maybe tcp/ip will be rewritten so it can magically filter out everything involving Donald Trump.
Title: Re: Who are we dropping from the MAGA supporters due to recent performances
Post by: skeeter on January 09, 2021, 04:16:41 am
And they are removing anything he says via the official @POTUS account as well.  Effing fascists.
They removed his appeal for peace. What does that tell you.
Title: Re: Who are we dropping from the MAGA supporters due to recent performances
Post by: txradioguy on January 09, 2021, 04:17:02 am
Do they really think you can ban speech that tens of millions of people want to hear in the digital age? Maybe tcp/ip will be rewritten so it can magically filter out everything involving Donald Trump.

Don't have to think it or imagine it.  I've been watching it happen in real time on twitter today.
Title: Re: Who are we dropping from the MAGA supporters due to recent performances
Post by: txradioguy on January 09, 2021, 04:17:37 am
They removed his appeal for peace. What does that tell you.

"peace" is "violence" suppression is "freedom"
Title: Re: Who are we dropping from the MAGA supporters due to recent performances
Post by: Weird Tolkienish Figure on January 09, 2021, 04:18:33 am
Don't have to think it or imagine it.  I've been watching it happen in real time on twitter today.

And you're saying you cannot find what Donald Trump is writing on Parler?
Title: Re: Who are we dropping from the MAGA supporters due to recent performances
Post by: txradioguy on January 09, 2021, 04:21:47 am
And you're saying you cannot find what Donald Trump is writing on Parler?

Trying to.  But the Parler servers keep crashing.  BTW I'm @txradioguy on Parler
Title: Re: Who are we dropping from the MAGA supporters due to recent performances
Post by: Weird Tolkienish Figure on January 09, 2021, 04:23:45 am
Trying to.  But the Parler servers keep crashing.  BTW I'm @txradioguy on Parler

You can't go to thedonald.win, or here, or FreeRepublic or even the countless conservative forums on Facebook and such and find out what Trump is saying on Parler? I don't have an account on Parler but what Trump writes there is broadcast all over the internet.
Title: Re: Who are we dropping from the MAGA supporters due to recent performances
Post by: txradioguy on January 09, 2021, 04:25:37 am
You can't go to thedonald.win, or here, or FreeRepublic or even the countless conservative forums on Facebook and such and find out what Trump is saying on Parler? I don't have an account on Parler but what Trump writes there is broadcast all over the internet.


Good to know... thank you.
Title: Re: Who are we dropping from the MAGA supporters due to recent performances
Post by: catfish1957 on January 09, 2021, 04:34:35 am
Trying to.  But the Parler servers keep crashing.  BTW I'm @txradioguy on Parler

I'm getting error messages logging in. 
Title: Re: Who are we dropping from the MAGA supporters due to recent performances
Post by: roamer_1 on January 09, 2021, 04:35:38 am
@roamer_1

I just saw on TV that Twitter has suspended Trump's account permanently.

@Victoria33
Meh... Don't care. As far as I am  concerned, Twitter is a blight. And all they will do with their antics is to drive his entire flock right into the arms of Parler... And what a Godsend for them, eh?  I hope they had the forethought to be scaleable. Because wow, what a herd is coming!
Title: Re: Who are we dropping from the MAGA supporters due to recent performances
Post by: skeeter on January 09, 2021, 04:37:37 am
@Victoria33
Meh... Don't care. As far as I am  concerned, Twitter is a blight. And all they will do with their antics is to drive his entire flock right into the arms of Parler... And what a Godsend for them, eh?  I hope they had the forethought to be scaleable. Because wow, what a herd is coming!
Google and Apple are removing the Parler ap from their ap stores.
Title: Re: Who are we dropping from the MAGA supporters due to recent performances
Post by: roamer_1 on January 09, 2021, 04:43:29 am
Google and Apple are removing the Parler ap from their ap stores.

Again, not an issue. All Parler has to do is teach folks how to except the app and push the install right on their site. I already have that crap turned off in my Droid. Knew that 'store' shit was bad from the start.
Title: Re: Who are we dropping from the MAGA supporters due to recent performances
Post by: roamer_1 on January 09, 2021, 04:46:22 am
Boy all this nonsemse, and the fact these bastards can do this makes me long for my flip phone, sure enough
Title: Re: Who are we dropping from the MAGA supporters due to recent performances
Post by: catfish1957 on January 09, 2021, 04:49:16 am
Google and Apple are removing the Parler ap from their ap stores.

On the Trump Twitter Ban thread I suggested with a qualifying legal (IMO) that money might be made by Shorting Twitter Stock. 

Post stayed up there for 9 seconds.   :silly:
Title: Re: Who are we dropping from the MAGA supporters due to recent performances
Post by: Weird Tolkienish Figure on January 09, 2021, 04:54:28 am
Google and Apple are removing the Parler ap from their ap stores.

 :shrug:

Are they going to block the website from the browser? Hope parler has a good mobile version.
Title: Re: Who are we dropping from the MAGA supporters due to recent performances
Post by: skeeter on January 09, 2021, 04:59:15 am
I suppose there’s a workaround but all the same the fact twitter is considered by law a ‘publisher’ and big tech is closing ranks pisses me off.
Title: Re: Who are we dropping from the MAGA supporters due to recent performances
Post by: Weird Tolkienish Figure on January 09, 2021, 05:00:48 am
I suppose there’s a workaround but all the same the fact these bastards are considered by law ‘publishers’ pisses me off.

No... you don't understand section 230. They aren't considered publishers. Publishers have to live by a different set of rules, like they are liable for libelous statements posted on their platforms.
Title: Re: Who are we dropping from the MAGA supporters due to recent performances
Post by: skeeter on January 09, 2021, 05:02:49 am
No... you don't understand section 230. They aren't considered publishers. Publishers have to live by a different set of rules, like they are liable for libelous statements posted on their platforms.
I understand it well enough, just not the terms.
Title: Re: Who are we dropping from the MAGA supporters due to recent performances
Post by: roamer_1 on January 09, 2021, 05:06:58 am
I understand it well enough, just not the terms.

Yeah. Too many 25 dollar words strung together.  :laugh:
Title: Re: Who are we dropping from the MAGA supporters due to recent performances
Post by: skeeter on January 09, 2021, 05:44:31 am
Yeah. Too many 25 dollar words strung together.  :laugh:
publisher vs. platform. I think I got it now.
Title: Re: Who are we dropping from the MAGA supporters due to recent performances
Post by: roamer_1 on January 09, 2021, 06:07:47 am
publisher vs. platform. I think I got it now.

Yeah. It ain't hard. Why didn't they just SAY that?  :laugh:
Title: Re: Who are we dropping from the MAGA supporters due to recent performances
Post by: Smokin Joe on January 09, 2021, 06:47:51 am
True. Except they are not Conservatier. Lest there would be no lists considered.
Actually, I think time would be better spent making the (much shorter) list of those in elected office who DO share conservative interests, rather than compiling the volumes of those who do not.
Title: Re: Who are we dropping from the MAGA supporters due to recent performances
Post by: roamer_1 on January 09, 2021, 06:57:41 am
Actually, I think time would be better spent making the (much shorter) list of those in elected office who DO share conservative interests, rather than compiling the volumes of those who do not.

Right. Haters gotta hate. I ain't made that way... Revenge is best served cold... Took me a long time to see the wisdom of that.
Title: Re: Who are we dropping from the MAGA supporters due to recent performances
Post by: Weird Tolkienish Figure on January 09, 2021, 03:45:07 pm
The most succinct way I can understand the effects of repealing section 230: it would make old media competitive with new media again. For better and for worse. Because old media all have publisher status.

I recently read an article to this effect.
Title: Re: Who are we dropping from the MAGA supporters due to recent performances
Post by: txradioguy on January 09, 2021, 05:28:39 pm
The most succinct way I can understand the effects of repealing section 230: it would make old media competitive with new media again. For better and for worse. Because old media all have publisher status.

I recently read an article to this effect.

Correct.  Right now social media is protected because theoretically they are a news and information aggregator they don’t publish anything per se but it all flows through them. 

The minute they started selecting what we should know and not know and banning people for wrong think...they became a publisher and should be treated accordingly. 
Title: Re: Who are we dropping from the MAGA supporters due to recent performances
Post by: christian on January 09, 2021, 11:50:13 pm
As long as pee on Trump is engaged in and Trump is defeated,so that Biden wins/won.  Why not still be a super patriot insurrectionist, a MAGA defeatest, a threat to Republicans and the Republic and call yourself a MEGA MAGA PATRIOT.  TEARING DOWN A PRESIDENT AND THE REPUBLIC and delivering both houses and the Presidency and the Supreme Court, how more super patriot can one be than that ? ? ?  Good god, we are living in the presence of Gods, Gods i tell you.
 Don't try that kind of stuff with democrats, you're likely to be found in a Park having committed suicide, even democrats have limits to that kind of crap/delusions.  Enjoy your Biden you obviously don't care for.
Title: Re: Who are we dropping from the MAGA supporters due to recent performances
Post by: Smokin Joe on January 10, 2021, 11:08:33 am
Correct.  Right now social media is protected because theoretically they are a news and information aggregator they don’t publish anything per se but it all flows through them. 

The minute they started selecting what we should know and not know and banning people for wrong think...they became a publisher and should be treated accordingly.
Right. Editors belong to publishers. Offensive content may be one thing, and there is a universal sense of that (what would your grandma slap you for saying in the parlor), but differing viewpoints being censored is something different.

To me, the obscenity is the blatant disrespect of the office of the President of the United States, in that these people have decided we can't hear from the POTUS on their platforms, because of their political bias. There is no excuse for striping a call for peaceful dispersal at the Capitol from their platforms, except to perpetuate the fiction that somehow the POTUS was responsible for the reaction of American People to the Congress' handling (or refusal to) of blatant fraud.

As usual, the Democrats and other Leftists are blaming the victims of their crimes for the crimes they, themselves, have committed.

While many of the 'news' publishers have long censored the POTUS' (and others) words by showing video and 'interpreting' what was allegedly said for their viewers, rather than present the actual person(s) words, or simply omitted reporting on the speech, to censor the speech of the president by removing access to the platform and deleting posts made by the POTUS, especially ones calling for peace and to stand down from any violence.