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By Jason Devaney | Tuesday, 08 Aug 2017 01:18 PM
United States intelligence officials believe North Korea has mini nuclear warheads that can be delivered via its intercontinental ballistic missiles.
The Washington Post reports on the ominous assessment by the Defense Intelligence Agency.
"The IC [intelligence community] assesses North Korea has produced nuclear weapons for ballistic missile delivery, to include delivery by ICBM-class missiles," the document reads.
more
http://www.newsmax.com/Newsfront/nkorea-nuke-warheads-icbm/2017/08/08/id/806501/
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Trump just weighed in on this. Very scary.
https://www.cnbc.com/2017/08/08/trump-warns-north-korea-threats-will-be-met-with-fire-and-fury.html
Urgent
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thats kinda scary
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thats kinda scary
I'm scared. Need hugs or chocolate 🍫
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I'm scared. Need hugs or chocolate 🍫
Me too, @Freya. Not funny a bit.
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@Quix
Quix, you should worry about N. Korea instead of outer space aliens.
"United States intelligence officials believe North Korea has mini nuclear warheads that can be delivered via its intercontinental ballistic missiles."
The report I saw/read from our Intel agencies, the Pentagon included, said N. Korea, in a few months, will have ICBMs that will reach Washington, D.C., and the east coast. And, they may have as many as 60 nuke bombs now.
Sanctions will not stop N. Korea from sending nukes to this country and they can do it now, hitting as far east as Illinois, according to our people, not their people.
This info. has come down very fast. It appears to me our intel groups/Pentagon had to finally tell us the truth about N. Korea as an attack could happen at any time, especially since these new sanctions have come about, enraging the nut case who can send bombs whenever he wants.
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By Jason Devaney | Tuesday, 08 Aug 2017 01:18 PM
United States intelligence officials believe North Korea has mini nuclear warheads that can be delivered via its intercontinental ballistic missiles.
The Washington Post reports on the ominous assessment by the Defense Intelligence Agency.
"The IC [intelligence community] assesses North Korea has produced nuclear weapons for ballistic missile delivery, to include delivery by ICBM-class missiles," the document reads.
more
http://www.newsmax.com/Newsfront/nkorea-nuke-warheads-icbm/2017/08/08/id/806501/
They believe? Or they actually know for a fact. There's a big/huge difference, you know. Especially when it comes to the blowback to a president overestimating the weapons of an enemy IF that president happens to not be a Democrat (See: Iraq WMDs media fiasco).
Trump will be crucified for even talking tough against NK unless we know for shock-sure that NK has nukes pointed at us.
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United States intelligence officials believe North Korea has mini nuclear warheads that can be delivered via its intercontinental ballistic missiles.
@mystery-ak
@Freya
myst, Thanks for finding that quickly. Couldn't believe I was seeing that when it first hit the TV and I was writing to you at the time. Trump says, after his intel report today, N. Korea will be met with fire and fury the world has never seen.
Seriously, if nut case can send one/more now, he will, tomorrow or later. I hope people have supplies at home to keep them alive for a period of time.
Freya, what you can do is get some supplies in you house, rather than sit there and worry. Worry is not action and changes nothing. I will send you a lit of simple foods, cheap foods, to get quickly, one stop at the grocery, if you don't have much now.
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Guess we won't be writing any checks to the Norks, anymore.
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They believe? Or they actually know for a fact. There's a big/huge difference, you know. Especially when it comes to the blowback to a president overestimating the weapons of an enemy IF that president happens to not be a Democrat (See: Iraq WMDs media fiasco).
Trump will be crucified for even talking tough against NK unless we know for shock-sure that NK has nukes pointed at us.
@XenaLee
That person reporting is not what the Pentagon report said. The Pentagon knows nutcase has them plus as many as 60 nuke bombs now. Out intel said N. Korea HAS the miniature nukes. This is the first time that has been reported.
Trump said what he did after he got his today's intel report.
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What a load.
So we haven't been able to develop mini nukes but technological giant NK has?
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Next thing, we'll find out NK has "yellow cake."
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@mystery-ak
@Freya
myst, Thanks for finding that quickly. Couldn't believe I was seeing that when it first hit the TV and I was writing to you at the time. Trump says, after his intel report today, N. Korea will be met with fire and fury the world has never seen.
Seriously, if nut case can send one/more now, he will, tomorrow or later. I hope people have supplies at home to keep them alive for a period of time.
Freya, what you can do is get some supplies in you house, rather than sit there and worry. Worry is not action and changes nothing. I will send you a lit of simple foods, cheap foods, to get quickly, one stop at the grocery, if you don't have much now.
@Victoria33 I'd love the list but since I had bariatric surgery I can't eat most food. If it's tinned food I can have chili and tuna and protein bars.
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What a load.
So we haven't been able to develop mini nukes but technological giant NK has?
And just what is it that makes you think we haven't?
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@Victoria33 I'd love the list but since I had bariatric surgery I can't eat most food. If it's tinned food I can have chili and tuna and protein bars.
@Freya
I sent the list.
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https://www.wsj.com/articles/trump-warns-north-korea-not-to-make-further-threats-1502221218
Trump to North Korea: U.S. Ready to Respond With ‘Fire and Fury’
Comments come in response to provocative statements from North Korea
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There is a silver lining to all this
Sean Hannity stopping 'all petty political disagreements' for 12 hours because of North Korea threat
http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/sean-hannity-stopping-all-petty-political-disagreements-for-12-hours-because-of-north-korea-threat/article/2630935
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What a load.
So we haven't been able to develop mini nukes but technological giant NK has?
The US has had mini nukes for half a century.
The M28/M29 Davy Crockett Nuclear Weapon System
https://armyhistory.org/the-m28m29-davy-crockett-nuclear-weapon-system/
(https://armyhistory.org/wp-content/uploads/2016/09/ord_3-1-500x361.jpg)
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So we're supposed to believe that Lil Kim beat us to the punch.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-4762486/U-S-military-rumored-developing-mini-nukes.html?ITO=1490
Next they'll be trying to tell us that the Norks have bases on the moon.
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So I guess this is where that can finally comes to rest. No more kicking it down the road. Too bad we don't have a more trustworthy president.
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So we're supposed to believe that Lil Kim beat us to the punch.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-4762486/U-S-military-rumored-developing-mini-nukes.html?ITO=1490
Next they'll be trying to tell us that the Norks have bases on the moon.
You'd rather be willfully ignorant and dismiss a serious danger to the country, than even have a remote hint of needing to support the President in a crisis.
Thats disgusting. Conservatism isn't self deceptive and suicidal.
You know DAMN well miniature means missile-ready.
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What a load.
So we haven't been able to develop mini nukes but technological giant NK has?
They're not talking about mini nukes. They're talking about shrinking a nuke down enough to mount it on an icbm. We did that back in the 50s or so.
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So I guess this is where that can finally comes to rest. No more kicking it down the road. Too bad we don't have a more trustworthy president.
He has good military people around him to advise..I just hope he listens to them.
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He has good military people around him to advise..I just hope he listens to them.
Yeah, it's the listening to anyone other than his internal demons that worries me.
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He has good military people around him to advise..I just hope he listens to them.
If he had, he wouldn't have said, "Fire and fury like the world has never seen."
I think he is scared as he did something I have not seen with him: When he said that, he had his arms folded tightly against his body. Anyone seen him like that?
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If he had, he wouldn't have said, "Fire and fury like the world has never seen."
I think he is scared as he did something I have not seen with him: When he said that, he had his arms folded tightly against his body. Anyone seen him like that?
I was hoping someone told him to use those words..
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Thank You VERY Much Harry Truman, for putting everyone into a phony panic.
The Norks are not going to launch on us except through their own incompetence in an accident.
NK is China's proxy. Has been since the end of WWII.
China doesn't want us nuked. It would be economic suicide for them to destroy Any part of us.
They need our nation's money, and they're WINNING by taking MOST of it in return for the lie of 'Cheap Imported Goods'.
Add in the cost of the 3 Nuclear Carrier full Battle Groups we've got parked on Kim's doorstep, the B-1 bombers overflying South Korea, and more, to the 'Cheap' imported iphone you can't seem to live without. Not so cheap anymore, is it?
China's bleeding us dry through bad trade agreements we shouldn't have entered, and wouldn't have, without global corporate money Wanting to appear to be run offshore in order to stay profitable. The fiction of it impairing the big guys is BS. It allows them to monopolize their market by freezing smaller players without the billions of investment capital needed to get into the game, Out of the game.
NK is China rattling its economic sabre through faux nuclear blackmail.
The bad actors we should be dealing with are in Beijing.
But That's off the table until we drastically cut or abolish our domestic corporate income tax.
Get rid of the corporate income tax and impose a 15% import tarriff on everything made in China.
Not just the US, but every member nation of NATO too.
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"As we grow older, the arm-crossing gesture can evolve to the point where we try to make it even less obvious to others. By folding one or both arms across the chest, a barrier is formed that is an unconscious attempt to block out what we perceive as a threat or undesirable circumstances."
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If he had, he wouldn't have said, "Fire and fury like the world has never seen."
I think he is scared as he did something I have not seen with him: When he said that, he had his arms folded tightly against his body. Anyone seen him like that?
He's done that defending his kids. So yeah, good ID on body language.
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Man you people need to get a grip. Fake news to scare the sheep. ****sheep****
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This whole 'I've got a nuke 4 u' passion play is asymmetric warfare.
We've been at war with China since Truman backed Mao.
Eating us out from within by bankrupting us, with our own Own manufacturing base which We Exported to them, is China's end game.
They win without the expense of actual combat.
Here's a superficial primer from wiki:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Asymmetric_warfare
There's much more to be said than wiki addresses.
The best in depth look is probably still Sun Tzu's Art of War
http://www.gutenberg.us/articles/the_art_of_war
http://www.literatureproject.com/art-of-war/
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Now, N. Korea is threatening a preemptive strike on Guam.
That came after Trump said "Fire and Fury" to N. Korea.
Since it is all fake news, hurry along, nothing to see here.
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Now, N. Korea is threatening a preemptive strike on Guam.
That came after Trump said "Fire and Fury" to N. Korea.
Since it is all fake news, hurry along, nothing to see here.
Why Guam when Japan will do?
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This whole 'I've got a nuke 4 u' passion play is asymmetric warfare.
We've been at war with China since Truman backed Mao.
Eating us out from within by bankrupting us, with our own Own manufacturing base which We Exported to them, is China's end game.
They win without the expense of actual combat.
Here's a superficial primer from wiki:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Asymmetric_warfare
There's much more to be said than wiki addresses.
The best in depth look is probably still Sun Tzu's Art of War
http://www.gutenberg.us/articles/the_art_of_war
http://www.literatureproject.com/art-of-war/
:thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup:
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Now, N. Korea is threatening a preemptive strike on Guam.
That came after Trump said "Fire and Fury" to N. Korea.
Since it is all fake news, hurry along, nothing to see here.
They have been issuing threats for a while. There don't seem to be any good options.
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@XenaLee
That person reporting is not what the Pentagon report said. The Pentagon knows nutcase has them plus as many as 60 nuke bombs now. Out intel said N. Korea HAS the miniature nukes. This is the first time that has been reported.
Trump said what he did after he got his today's intel report.
Well.... while I do wish Trump would just STFU (I'm dreaming, I know).... and stop tweet-reacting to every damned thing.... what is he gonna do? Pre-emptive strike on NK? Not bloody likely in this political environment. It's just a lot of yada yada yada at this point.
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Well.... while I do wish Trump would just STFU (I'm dreaming, I know).... and stop tweet-reacting to every damned thing.... what is he gonna do? Pre-emptive strike on NK? Not bloody likely in this political environment. It's just a lot of yada yada yada at this point.
Wrong. Trump is doing exactly what should have been done years ago....Fight Crazy with Crazy.
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Wrong. Trump is doing exactly what should have been done years ago....Fight Crazy with Crazy.
Yeah. Our speaking softly routine has damn near gotten us a nuclear capable North Korea AND Iran.
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Yeah. Our speaking softly routine has damn near gotten us a nuclear capable North Korea AND Iran.
Exactl! We are rapidly approaching a moment of truth both for ourselves as human beings and for the life of our nation. Now, truth is not always a pleasant thing. But it is necessary now to make a choice, to choose between two admittedly regrettable, but nevertheless inevitable outcomes. One where we kill a couple hundred thousand people now or sit back and wait for them to ruin our pleasant valley sunday B-B-Q in Cali next year.
I think if you look at the options you will see there is only one way to proceed..
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Exactl! We are rapidly approaching a moment of truth both for ourselves as human beings and for the life of our nation. Now, truth is not always a pleasant thing. But it is necessary now to make a choice, to choose between two admittedly regrettable, but nevertheless inevitable outcomes. One where we kill a couple hundred thousand people now or sit back and wait for them to ruin our pleasant valley sunday B-B-Q in Cali next year.
I think if you look at the options you will see there is only one way to proceed..
Heaven help us...........
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Heaven help us...........
I'm up for a Smoked Brisket. You?
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I'm up for a Smoked Brisket. You?
And a rack or two of spareribs.
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Yeah. Our speaking softly routine has damn near gotten us a nuclear capable North Korea AND Iran.
That's because the big stick was missing and the NK knew it.
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What a load.
So we haven't been able to develop mini nukes but technological giant NK has?
They aren't talking about backpack nukes, but a nuclear bomb small enough and light enough to be equal or less than the payload capabilities of their ICBMs.
For example, their Taepodong-II has a payload capability of less than 500 kg (~1,100 lbs) at maximum range.
(https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taepodong-2)
Mind you, this missile easily has the range to strike anywhere in the US. And that's been the case since 2012. So all this panic over their KN-08 variants (which is a shorter range missile) is a joke. What does make these missiles more worrisome is that they are road-mobile, so they are much harder to find and destroy.
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Of course, building a nuke that is 1,100 pounds isn't the problem.
Do they and a reentry vehicle to put it in? Without one, the bomb burns up in reentry.
Do they have a trigger mechanism that will cause the bomb to explode *BEFORE* it hits the ground? Without one, the bomb will fragment into pieces when it goes *smush* against the ground.
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@Quix
Quix, you should worry about N. Korea instead of outer space aliens.
"United States intelligence officials believe North Korea has mini nuclear warheads that can be delivered via its intercontinental ballistic missiles."
The report I saw/read from our Intel agencies, the Pentagon included, said N. Korea, in a few months, will have ICBMs that will reach Washington, D.C., and the east coast. And, they may have as many as 60 nuke bombs now.
Sanctions will not stop N. Korea from sending nukes to this country and they can do it now, hitting as far east as Illinois, according to our people, not their people.
This info. has come down very fast. It appears to me our intel groups/Pentagon had to finally tell us the truth about N. Korea as an attack could happen at any time, especially since these new sanctions have come about, enraging the nut case who can send bombs whenever he wants.
I agree sanctions are a hideous, hollow, horrific pretense & a laugh.
I also believe that we MUST have 3-5 DIFFERENT systems that could take out the entire NK leadership either in one flash or in a very surgical strike lasting seconds to minutes--leaving their citizens more or less unscathed.
As I understand it for example ... we can walk through walls. We can use various kinds of beam technologies to sub-atomically disintegrate objects and/or people from a significant distance--leaving surrounding objects & people unscathed. I'd wager there are other clever exotic technologies that could be brought to bear to remove the entire NK leadership and/or at least their nuke objects and infrastructure.
Though probably the fallen angel overlords of the oligarchy would not allow such advanced tech to be used in this situation in such a way because it doesn't fit the script from hell.
Obviously, though, that script doesn't suit the oligarchy's war-mongering set-up to increase the degree of slavery they subject the global citizens to.
Both are horrific portents and not all that disconnected, imho.
The scenario appears to be to have WW3 coerce the global populace into accepting the tyranny of the fallen angel critters or face total annihilation of mankind.
And the lemmings will continue to fall off the cliff.
And the Eloi will continue to shuffle off to the Morlach's caverns for dinner--as the main course.
And most in our era have a hard time with their left hand knowing what their right hand is doing.
And the sheeple will continue to bleat whatever blathering propaganda the oligarchy feeds them.
God alone is our refuge.
I do have, thankfully, a confidence in my spirit that my Dallas trip will be completed before WW3 erupts. Time will tell.
Certainly the oligarchy is kicking the WW3 ball further down the court week by week.
And the fat air-headed NK stooge appears more suicidally idiotic by the week, as well. Arrogance and power are as greedy as the grave and know no bounds.
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That's because the big stick was missing and the NK knew it.
True.
Because it is the agenda of the oligarchy to bring the USA down to 3rd world level and literal ashes in order to make their overt establishment of their tyrannical global government easier and quicker.
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Exactl! We are rapidly approaching a moment of truth both for ourselves as human beings and for the life of our nation. Now, truth is not always a pleasant thing. But it is necessary now to make a choice, to choose between two admittedly regrettable, but nevertheless inevitable outcomes. One where we kill a couple hundred thousand people now or sit back and wait for them to ruin our pleasant valley sunday B-B-Q in Cali next year.
I think if you look at the options you will see there is only one way to proceed..
Agreed.
However, the inmates have been in charge of the assylum for decades. They will not allow reason to alter their plans significantly at this point.
They will certainly NOT allow charitable, NON-genocidal humanitarianism to alter their depopulation and other schemes.
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This whole 'I've got a nuke 4 u' passion play is asymmetric warfare.
We've been at war with China since Truman backed Mao.
Eating us out from within by bankrupting us, with our own Own manufacturing base which We Exported to them, is China's end game.
They win without the expense of actual combat.
Here's a superficial primer from wiki:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Asymmetric_warfare
There's much more to be said than wiki addresses.
The best in depth look is probably still Sun Tzu's Art of War
http://www.gutenberg.us/articles/the_art_of_war
http://www.literatureproject.com/art-of-war/
Interesting and worthy points.
However, that is not the script the oligarchy is playing by. They WANT massive global war, massive genocidal deaths, massive suffering and massive destruction. Their boss revels in all such as his favorite compulsive recreation.
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I think you make some worthy-to-consider points.
I just strongly believe that your assumptions are quite flawed re the oligarchy and its goals.
They are not the most rational of folks though they see themselves at the top of the heap.
The Chinese bragged to me when I lived there that they were seriously prepared to lose 800 MILLION citizens in a war ... and that then THEY would be in a better position to be on top of the heap and control the world. I think they are discounting the oligarchy's reach and script but that is seriously part of the mentality at the top of the Chinese military and leadership. I heard it from a diversity of their own well connected military folks.
Thank You VERY Much Harry Truman, for putting everyone into a phony panic.
The Norks are not going to launch on us except through their own incompetence in an accident.
NK is China's proxy. Has been since the end of WWII.
China doesn't want us nuked. It would be economic suicide for them to destroy Any part of us.
They need our nation's money, and they're WINNING by taking MOST of it in return for the lie of 'Cheap Imported Goods'.
Add in the cost of the 3 Nuclear Carrier full Battle Groups we've got parked on Kim's doorstep, the B-1 bombers overflying South Korea, and more, to the 'Cheap' imported iphone you can't seem to live without. Not so cheap anymore, is it?
China's bleeding us dry through bad trade agreements we shouldn't have entered, and wouldn't have, without global corporate money Wanting to appear to be run offshore in order to stay profitable. The fiction of it impairing the big guys is BS. It allows them to monopolize their market by freezing smaller players without the billions of investment capital needed to get into the game, Out of the game.
NK is China rattling its economic sabre through faux nuclear blackmail.
The bad actors we should be dealing with are in Beijing.
But That's off the table until we drastically cut or abolish our domestic corporate income tax.
Get rid of the corporate income tax and impose a 15% import tarriff on everything made in China.
Not just the US, but every member nation of NATO too.
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If he had, he wouldn't have said, "Fire and fury like the world has never seen."
I think he is scared as he did something I have not seen with him: When he said that, he had his arms folded tightly against his body. Anyone seen him like that?
There does appear to be an increased seriousness, soberness, steely-ness about him re this topic, set of contingencies.
I'm incredibly thankful it is him in the role vs Shrillery. She'd likely have already had us into the smoking embers stage.
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He has good military people around him to advise..I just hope he listens to them.
He has a track record of consulting the better minds available to him and to then seriously considering their input. He can be erratic but imho, he's far from irrational in such situations.
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So I guess this is where that can finally comes to rest. No more kicking it down the road. Too bad we don't have a more trustworthy president.
"more" trustworthy President?
--like Roosevelt: setting up, facilitating, insuring Pearl Harbor?
--Truman selling us down the river in a list of ways?
etc.
etc.
etc.
The globalist stooges in the White House have all been traitors to some greater or lesser degree.
At least Trump pretends to be against the oligarchy. Maybe a big part of him is. I'm skeptical but I'll ride that horse as far as it goes.
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North Korea has been threatening the United States for decades. Its about time we threaten them.
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@Quix
Quix, you should worry about N. Korea instead of outer space aliens.
****slapping 22222frying pan :chairbang:.
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thats kinda scary
imho, it's not just ICBM's that are concerning.
Most folks with dreams or visions of the start of WW3 the last 25+ years have seen a sneak attack CLOSE off our shores from subs and container ships.
I was a bit shocked some time ago to learn that NK had far more subs than I'd have ever guessed.
Regardless ... prayer is more effective in such matters than anything else.
And individually and as families, communities, we'd best do what we can to walk close to/with Almighty God Yehovah. NOTHING AND NO ONE ELSE will be a sufficient refuge.
He may require many to walk through the valley of death ... but HE HAS PROMISED AND IS ABLE to walk there with us. And that makes ALL the difference.
Of course, wise prepping is advised, as well.
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****slapping 22222frying pan :chairbang:.
Now now. LOL.
@Victoria33 has excellent sources far above average. I respect her and even her perspective above that of most folks.
That just doesn't mean she or her perspective are perfect.
And, I've been given the impression that I'm no push-over in such discussions. Does it show? LOL.
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I seriously dont think we have been this close to a nuclear weapon being used in combat since the Cuban missile crisus. And Kim is just crazy enough to do it. Gotta be keeping a lot of Pentagon people working long hours into the night on strategy.
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I don't know that this is comforting ... though it could be good DEPENDING on a list of unknowable contingencies.
http://dailycaller.com/2017/08/08/presidents-spiritual-mentor-says-god-has-given-trump-authority-to-take-out-kim-jong-un/
President’s Spiritual Mentor Says ‘God Has Given Trump Authority To Take Out Kim Jong Un’
IF God really has given a specific mandate to Trump about that--I could cheer it. Sounds like the pastor is merely asserting that based on the verses he cites.
Seems to me any serious conflict at this stage puts us on a very fast and slippery slope right into WW3 ... almost regardless.
Though, if Russia, China et al gave assurances they'd stay still or support such a strike, OK. But I don't think they'd go there ... The NK idiot is too useful to them and the oligarchy.
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I seriously dont think we have been this close to a nuclear weapon being used in combat since the Cuban missile crisus. And Kim is just crazy enough to do it. Gotta be keeping a lot of Pentagon people working long hours into the night on strategy.
I think @Victoria33 might assert that your assertion is entirely accurate.
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North Korea has been threatening the United States for decades. Its about time we threaten them.
We already have by sending in Madeleine
(http://news.bbc.co.uk/olmedia/985000/images/_988725_kkimandalbright300.jpg)
Maybe that is what Kim is really mad about.
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"more" trustworthy President?
--like Roosevelt: setting up, facilitating, insuring Pearl Harbor?
--Truman selling us down the river in a list of ways?
etc.
etc.
etc.
The globalist stooges in the White House have all been traitors to some greater or lesser degree.
At least Trump pretends to be against the oligarchy. Maybe a big part of him is. I'm skeptical but I'll ride that horse as far as it goes.
As in somebody who wasn't a flake who enjoys twitter flame wars more than actually governing. Don't use strawman arguments; it ill-becomes you.
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I'm up for a Smoked Brisket. You?
I'l stick with my chopped Kale and quinoa salad.
Its California you know.
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I seriously dont think we have been this close to a nuclear weapon being used in combat since the Cuban missile crisus. And Kim is just crazy enough to do it. Gotta be keeping a lot of Pentagon people working long hours into the night on strategy.
I think that before sending an actual nuke, he will demonstrate the ability to do so. I think it's more a bargaining chip than anything.
But, he might actually try a conventional attack launch at that point, such that a nuclear response by us would be viewed by the anti-nuke international community as not a proportional response.
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I'l stick with my chopped Kale and quinoa salad.
Its California you know.
Oh yeah...and they banned outdoor wood and charcoal use. Maybe a good NOKO nuke could cure them of their insanity.
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Trump intensifies rhetoric against North Korea
By Rebecca Savransky - 08/09/17 08:11 AM EDT
President Trump on Wednesday ratcheted up his rhetoric against North Korea, pointing to the strength of the U.S. nuclear arsenal one day after warning Pyongyang of "fire and fury" if it continued its threats.
Trump said in a series of tweets that he hoped that the "power" of the U.S. nuclear arsenal would never have to be used.
He added that "there will never be a time that we are not the most powerful nation in the world."
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http://thehill.com/homenews/administration/345847-trump-nuclear-arsenal-far-stronger-and-more-powerful-than-ever-before (http://thehill.com/homenews/administration/345847-trump-nuclear-arsenal-far-stronger-and-more-powerful-than-ever-before)
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FLASHBACK 1994: Clinton Says His Deal With North Korea Would Make The World Safer
http://dailycaller.com/2017/08/08/flashback-1994-clinton-says-his-deal-with-north-korea-would-make-the-world-safer/
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I think you make some worthy-to-consider points.
I just strongly believe that your assumptions are quite flawed re the oligarchy and its goals.
They are not the most rational of folks though they see themselves at the top of the heap.
The Chinese bragged to me when I lived there that they were seriously prepared to lose 800 MILLION citizens in a war ... and that then THEY would be in a better position to be on top of the heap and control the world. I think they are discounting the oligarchy's reach and script but that is seriously part of the mentality at the top of the Chinese military and leadership. I heard it from a diversity of their own well connected military folks.
Thanks Quix.
However;
Say they launch, by Kim-prox.
Where do they go from there?
IF, they actually start, they lose either way.
We obliterate them, game.
They obliterate us, game, for them either way.
Communist regimes cannot support themselves without a steady influx of free market western capital.
Without our money, they implode even if they reduce us to ashes.
Without incinerating us, if we stop Sending them our money, they implode.
It's not easy being a Communist when you actually put down the idiot theory treatise and just look at the hard and inescapable math of FTM.
Follow The Money.
Remember the devastation Reagan visited on the old Soviet Union by just stopping the export of dual use civilian/military technology to them.
Communism is a parasite.
Without a host (us) to feed on it starves to death.
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FLASHBACK 1994: Clinton Says His Deal With North Korea Would Make The World Safer
http://dailycaller.com/2017/08/08/flashback-1994-clinton-says-his-deal-with-north-korea-would-make-the-world-safer/
@Bigun
Clinton Says His Deal With North Korea Would Make The World Safer Him Richer.
There fixed it.
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@Bigun
Clinton Says His Deal With North Korea Would Make The World Safer Him Richer.
There fixed it.
That is what he was thinking! NOT what he said however!
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Oh yeah...and they banned outdoor wood and charcoal use. Maybe a good NOKO nuke could cure them of their insanity.
Is it considered a "cure" when their brains and the rest of their bodies have been "fried" ... disintegrated to smithereens? I suppose, in a sense, it is. The landscape and culture no longer have to be plagued with their infestation.
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THANKS. I much agree re communism ... and the idiots supporting it.
However, I think you may not be thinking some things through sufficiently.
The oligarchy does not care if billions of people are dead; infrastructure over the planet is largely destroyed etc. etc. They actually WANT that.
One family alone is purportedly worth $300 TRILLION.
Their deep underground cities are stocked to the hilt. They expect to ride out the radiation etc. and emerge at a fitting time to restructure the world and rule it as super elite on top of serfs and slaves with no middle class.
Money is, to them, monopoly money at this point. Power is more their addiction though they are super greedy and ruthless about money, too.
The other issue is the literal king of hell WANTS a thoroughly scorched earth. It's his revenge for getting kicked out of Heaven and flushed from his job as God's best buddy--because of his arrogant rebellion against God.
And the king of hell is the one directing the fallen angel/ET critters AND the human oligarchy in league with them.
They do NOT care about lives lost, customers lost, etc. etc. etc. They have the means to set up society again as cashless; virtually free energy for all (costing about 50 cents/year) etc. etc. etc. REGARDLESS of how many markets, customers, factories, etc. are totally destroyed.
They want to turn the whole planet mostly back to a vast natural nature preserve with very few cities. The serfs and slaves are slated to live in Soviet style rabbit warren concrete cells and think they are happy because of chemical and other mind control. BRAVE NEW WORLD and 1984 were scripts from the oligarchy themselves. The Huxley's were in on the schemes. B.F. Skinner was a dyed in the wool globalist.
This ain't Kansas any more. Not going to be for some time to come.
Thanks Quix.
However;
Say they launch, by Kim-prox.
Where do they go from there?
IF, they actually start, they lose either way.
We obliterate them, game.
They obliterate us, game, for them either way.
Communist regimes cannot support themselves without a steady influx of free market western capital.
Without our money, they implode even if they reduce us to ashes.
Without incinerating us, if we stop Sending them our money, they implode.
It's not easy being a Communist when you actually put down the idiot theory treatise and just look at the hard and inescapable math of FTM.
Follow The Money.
Remember the devastation Reagan visited on the old Soviet Union by just stopping the export of dual use civilian/military technology to them.
Communism is a parasite.
Without a host (us) to feed on it starves to death.
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Trump intensifies rhetoric against North Korea
By Rebecca Savransky - 08/09/17 08:11 AM EDT
President Trump on Wednesday ratcheted up his rhetoric against North Korea, pointing to the strength of the U.S. nuclear arsenal one day after warning Pyongyang of "fire and fury" if it continued its threats.
Trump said in a series of tweets that he hoped that the "power" of the U.S. nuclear arsenal would never have to be used.
He added that "there will never be a time that we are not the most powerful nation in the world."
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http://thehill.com/homenews/administration/345847-trump-nuclear-arsenal-far-stronger-and-more-powerful-than-ever-before (http://thehill.com/homenews/administration/345847-trump-nuclear-arsenal-far-stronger-and-more-powerful-than-ever-before)
I was told more than 40 years ago by someone who worked with such things ... that we had
ELEVEN DIFFERENT
technologies, weapons systems that were more powerful, devastating than our nukes.
Depending on what the oligarchy allows, orders our military to do ... fat little Kim would not have time to kiss his rear goodbye.
Trouble is, I think the oligarchy set him up and maintains him for their own sadistic, ruthless, maniacal, genocidal reasons.
I don't know that the oligarchy wants the USA to defend itself well. I think they want the current USA government, infrastructure etc. utterly destroyed.
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As in somebody who wasn't a flake who enjoys twitter flame wars more than actually governing. Don't use strawman arguments; it ill-becomes you.
Thanks, I guess, for the very back-handed slight complement.
I don't think you track what I say very well, very often.
I certainly don't think you grok the sources and reasons for my assertions much at all.
There was meat vs straw in my examples.
However, I have little to no capacity to help you see that.
My weakness.
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The scenario seen in countless dreams and visions by people from all walks of life for more than 25 years is that:
1. Russia, China, NK, Iran, {and one source says a European nation} ... plus some hangers on like Cuba, Lybia, etc. attack us by subs and container ships close off our shores in a SURPRISE attack that thoroughly catches us unexpecting such a thing.
2. My prayer is that patriotic units of the US military have people walking close to God and who ARE alert and watching and retaliate thoroughly.
3. Some insiders claim the "Nordics" are helping the Navy help patriots and trying to protect the USA--while the CIA is in league with the reptoids, globalists, out for our destruction & deeper enslavement.
I don't trust the Nordics either. I think it's all a deceptive Kabuki dance. However, I certainly believe that major chunks at the Federal level are traitorous to their bone marrow--just like their oligarchy bosses.
Thanks Quix.
However;
Say they launch, by Kim-prox.
Where do they go from there?
IF, they actually start, they lose either way.
We obliterate them, game.
They obliterate us, game, for them either way.
Communist regimes cannot support themselves without a steady influx of free market western capital.
Without our money, they implode even if they reduce us to ashes.
Without incinerating us, if we stop Sending them our money, they implode.
It's not easy being a Communist when you actually put down the idiot theory treatise and just look at the hard and inescapable math of FTM.
Follow The Money.
Remember the devastation Reagan visited on the old Soviet Union by just stopping the export of dual use civilian/military technology to them.
Communism is a parasite.
Without a host (us) to feed on it starves to death.
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Oh yeah...and they banned outdoor wood and charcoal use. Maybe a good NOKO nuke could cure them of their insanity.
Not everywhere, though we don't have really great barbecue we do have some good barbecue, and I'll take that over garden weeds, sorry, healthy salad :3: any day!
And as far as a nuke, could it please be neutron bombs dropped in say Sacramento, San Fagcisco and a couple of other liberal elitist enclaves? We have a lot of great landscape here I would hate to see ruined worse than what the liberals are doing.
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Of course, building a nuke that is 1,100 pounds isn't the problem.
Do they and a reentry vehicle to put it in? Without one, the bomb burns up in reentry.
Do they have a trigger mechanism that will cause the bomb to explode *BEFORE* it hits the ground? Without one, the bomb will fragment into pieces when it goes *smush* against the ground.
Good post.
As part of my grad school work, I had to redesign the Mercury program re-entry shield.
This is very difficult. And I haven't seen anything in the news about North Korea testing re-entry vehicles. So there is still time.
Eventually, they will solve this issue.
At this point, the United States should be testing its anti-missile missiles on the North Korean missiles so that the Norks cannot get any data from potential re-entry vehicle tests.
Perhaps this should be discussed at the UN, rather than more useless sanctions.
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Of course, building a nuke that is 1,100 pounds isn't the problem.
Do they and a reentry vehicle to put it in? Without one, the bomb burns up in reentry.
Do they have a trigger mechanism that will cause the bomb to explode *BEFORE* it hits the ground? Without one, the bomb will fragment into pieces when it goes *smush* against the ground.
True, but... if you're going for an Electromagnetic Pulse (EMP) effect, then you don't care about re-entry or a fancy triggering mechanism, since the most effective EMP happens when the explosion happens at very high altitude over your target. So, all the NORKs would have to do is fly the missile above the atmosphere over the continental US, and then set it off, which wouldn't require anything more than a simple radio signal.
Also, as my wife has pointed out, no one seems to be talking about the possibility of the NORKs producing and selling one or more nukes to another "bad actor", such as Iran or ISIS, and that entity then smuggling the nukes on container ships into US ports and setting them off, either via timers or cell-phone triggers, as they do with conventional IEDs. :shrug: