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Title: At least 8 dead in shooting at Indianapolis FedEx facility
Post by: mystery-ak on April 16, 2021, 12:55:14 pm
At least 8 dead in shooting at Indianapolis FedEx facility
By Jordan Williams and Geoffrey Rowland - 04/16/21 06:00 AM ED

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At least 8 people were killed and several others injured late Thursday in a mass shooting at an Indianapolis FedEx facility.

Indianapolis police said that the shooter took his own life and there is "no active threat to the community at this time,” according to the Associated Press.

In a press conference, Indianapolis Metropolitan Police Department spokeswoman Genae Cook early Friday said at least four people have been transported to a local hospital with injuries, one person was in critical condition. Three others had other injuries, and two others were treated at the facility.

Cook also said that authorities were also aware that that “multiple other people” had walked into local hospitals for injuries. The Department is continuing to reach out to identify other victims.

Cook said that officers responded to a report of officers fired at the FedEx facility at roughly 11 p.m. Thursday evening, and arrived to an active shooter incident.

Authorities are still trying to figure out the motive of the incident. Cook said the investigation will continue “throughout the day.” 

more
https://thehill.com/homenews/news/548597-at-least-8-dead-in-shooting-in-indianapolis
Title: Re: At least 8 dead in shooting at Indianapolis FedEx facility
Post by: mountaineer on April 16, 2021, 01:12:04 pm
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Witness told @WISH_TV, “I saw a man with a submachine gun of some sort, an automatic rifle, and he was firing in the open.”
https://twitter.com/Breaking911/status/1382919823601115136
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Title: Re: At least 8 dead in shooting at Indianapolis FedEx facility
Post by: txradioguy on April 16, 2021, 01:36:59 pm
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Witness told @WISH_TV, “I saw a man with a submachine gun of some sort, an automatic rifle, and he was firing in the open.”

This is why in most cases eye witness testimony is always sketchy at best and it also highlights a growing inability of citizens to accurately describe a firearm they see.

Sadly but not surprisingly politicians will jump on that word salad description of the weapon used and call for a ban on them.
Title: Re: At least 8 dead in shooting at Indianapolis FedEx facility
Post by: PeteS in CA on April 16, 2021, 01:45:32 pm
Last I saw, the police don't even know if the shooter is/was an employee.

Have any pol-ghouls and/or media-ghouls used the still-cooling dead bodies for their ritual calls for gun confiscation?
Title: Re: At least 8 dead in shooting at Indianapolis FedEx facility
Post by: goatprairie on April 16, 2021, 02:02:03 pm
Many of these workplace shooters turn out to be disgruntled ex-workers getting revenge. We'll see.
Title: Re: At least 8 dead in shooting at Indianapolis FedEx facility
Post by: PeteS in CA on April 16, 2021, 02:20:24 pm
Many of these workplace shooters turn out to be disgruntled ex-workers getting revenge. We'll see.

Top of the "usual suspects" list for killings like this.
Title: Re: At least 8 dead in shooting at Indianapolis FedEx facility
Post by: mountaineer on April 16, 2021, 03:58:24 pm
This is odd.
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John Cardillo
@johncardillo
Chief of Indianapolis Metro PD refuses to give any details about the killer.

He first said he knew nothing about the identity of the killer, then a local reporter noted that a special agent told media they were searching the killer's house.

Why the secrecy?
10:53 AM · Apr 16, 2021·
So they know the shooter's identity and where he lived, but they don't know nuthin'.
Probably need to scrub his social media first.
Title: Re: At least 8 dead in shooting at Indianapolis FedEx facility
Post by: txradioguy on April 16, 2021, 04:19:37 pm
Last I saw, the police don't even know if the shooter is/was an employee.

Have any pol-ghouls and/or media-ghouls used the still-cooling dead bodies for their ritual calls for gun confiscation?

Not yet.  I'm guessing they are waiting to see the race/religion of the shooter...or they already know and it doesn't fit the narrative.

ETA:  Cops are currently searching the shooters house.  So they know where he lives and who he is.
Title: Re: At least 8 dead in shooting at Indianapolis FedEx facility
Post by: PeteS in CA on April 16, 2021, 04:39:02 pm
Since the shooter killed himself, it would quickly be recognized that he was the shooter. I'm just a life-long civilian, but I would think the second thing officers on the scene would do - after verifying he was not alive and armed - would be to search for the guy's identity. So there's a good chance the shooter's identity became known within minutes of police officers' arrival. Notifying next of kin, investigation in progress ... I get all that, but that should only delay release of identification a few hours, not half a day, IMO.
Title: Re: At least 8 dead in shooting at Indianapolis FedEx facility
Post by: txradioguy on April 16, 2021, 04:40:53 pm
Since the shooter killed himself, it would quickly be recognized that he was the shooter. I'm just a life-long civilian, but I would think the second thing officers on the scene would do - after verifying he was not alive and armed - would be to search for the guy's identity. So there's a good chance the shooter's identity became known within minutes of police officers' arrival. Notifying next of kin, investigation in progress ... I get all that, but that should only delay release of identification a few hours, not half a day, IMO.

Every department has different notification protocols.

But you and I both know from experience had this been a white...protestant Trump supporter...we'd have known everything about him already.
Title: Re: At least 8 dead in shooting at Indianapolis FedEx facility
Post by: PeteS in CA on April 16, 2021, 04:44:02 pm
Police have 'idea' of FedEx shooter's identity but not releasing name or possible motive

https://www.indystar.com/story/news/2021/04/16/indianapolis-fedex-mass-shooting-suspect-identity-update/7251111002/

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Indianapolis police said this morning they have not made a positive identification of the gunman who killed eight people before taking his own life late Thursday at a FexEd facility in Indianapolis.

Indianapolis Metropolitan Police Department Deputy Chief Craig McCartt said investigators have an idea of who the man is, but will not reveal a name until  positive identification is made by investigators and the coroner. FBI Agent in Charge Paul Keenan said investigators were searching a home this morning.

"We have an idea," McCartt said. "We have some other leads that led us to that location."

They got a search warrant based on "an idea of who the man is"? What a load. The shooter probably had ID. The shooter's car would have a license plate that could be used to check its registration. How stupid does this police chief think people are?!
Title: Re: At least 8 dead in shooting at Indianapolis FedEx facility
Post by: GtHawk on April 16, 2021, 05:21:33 pm
It's a sad day for eight families, I would be willing to bet that Fed Ex has a no gun/gun free zone policy for their facilities to make sure their employees can't shoot each other defend themselves.

Title: Re: At least 8 dead in shooting at Indianapolis FedEx facility
Post by: LegalAmerican on April 16, 2021, 05:25:49 pm
This is why in most cases eye witness testimony is always sketchy at best and it also highlights a growing inability of citizens to accurately describe a firearm they see.

Sadly but not surprisingly politicians will jump on that word salad description of the weapon used and call for a ban on them.

True.  As if weapons walk around by themselves.  Mine is very well behaved.  It just sits there. 
Oh, could it be PEOPLE that are the problem?  NOT ANY TOOL?      333cleo
Title: Re: At least 8 dead in shooting at Indianapolis FedEx facility
Post by: LegalAmerican on April 16, 2021, 05:31:57 pm
Every department has different notification protocols.

But you and I both know from experience had this been a white...protestant Trump supporter...we'd have known everything about him already.

Indianapolis?  Same as Chicago. Detroit. Baltimore. 
 888high58888
Title: Re: At least 8 dead in shooting at Indianapolis FedEx facility
Post by: Wingnut on April 16, 2021, 05:37:09 pm
Damn....  My package delivery date is now shown as: "Delayed".   

Title: Re: At least 8 dead in shooting at Indianapolis FedEx facility
Post by: Wingnut on April 16, 2021, 05:38:38 pm
This happened 14 hours ago and they still haven't identified the suspect.

I guess we can rule out a white male.
Title: Re: At least 8 dead in shooting at Indianapolis FedEx facility
Post by: txradioguy on April 16, 2021, 05:41:10 pm
This happened 14 hours ago and they still haven't identified the suspect.

I guess we can rule out a white male.

The amount of silence by the IMPD on the shooter tells most people all they need to know about who he is.
Title: Re: At least 8 dead in shooting at Indianapolis FedEx facility
Post by: mystery-ak on April 16, 2021, 05:53:39 pm
TheLeoTerrell
@TheLeoTerrell
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Why is the identity of the shooter in Indianapolis being withheld. Does anyone know?
Title: Re: At least 8 dead in shooting at Indianapolis FedEx facility
Post by: mystery-ak on April 16, 2021, 05:55:54 pm
Title: Re: At least 8 dead in shooting at Indianapolis FedEx facility
Post by: verga on April 16, 2021, 05:56:19 pm
Prayers for the families.
Title: Re: At least 8 dead in shooting at Indianapolis FedEx facility
Post by: LegalAmerican on April 16, 2021, 05:59:33 pm
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">BREAKING: Police identify gunman in FedEx facility shooting in Indianapolis pic.twitter.com/zLE3w0AjSg (https://t.co/zLE3w0AjSg)</p>— Meet the Press (@MeetThePress) April 16, 2021 (https://twitter.com/MeetThePress/status/1383116394783518720?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw)
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Title: Re: At least 8 dead in shooting at Indianapolis FedEx facility
Post by: Right_in_Virginia on April 16, 2021, 06:12:38 pm
FedEx mass shooter was reportedly ‘known’ to authorities
NY Post, Apr 16, 2021

The gunman in the FedEx shooting spree was previously known to federal and local authorities — and had been flagged up to law enforcement by a concerned family member before the deadly attack, according to a report Friday.

The suspect, who committed suicide after killing eight at the Indiana facility Thursday night, has not been publicly identified by police. But CNN reporter Ana Cabrera said he’s no stranger to law enforcement.

“Authorities were warned about FedEx suspect’s potential for violence in the past, sources say,” Cabrera tweeted. “The suspect in the Indianapolis mass shooting was known to federal and local authorities prior to the attack.”

Citing three law enforcement sources, Cabrera added that a relative reached out to authorities to warn them of the gunman’s “potential for violence.” It is not clear when the warning was issued.

Indianapolis Metropolitan Police Department Deputy Chief Craig McCartt said earlier in the day that investigators “have an idea” who the shooter is but declined to elaborate.


More: https://nypost.com/2021/04/16/fedex-mass-shooter-was-reportedly-known-to-authorities/
Title: Re: At least 8 dead in shooting at Indianapolis FedEx facility
Post by: Wingnut on April 16, 2021, 06:16:24 pm
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">BREAKING: Police identify gunman in FedEx facility shooting in Indianapolis. 3 law enforcement sources confirm to @PeteWilliamsNBC (https://twitter.com/PeteWilliamsNBC?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw) that the gunman was 19-year-old Brandon Scott Hole. #MTPDaily (https://twitter.com/hashtag/MTPDaily?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw)</p>— Meet the Press (@MeetThePress) April 16, 2021 (https://twitter.com/MeetThePress/status/1383116756894547972?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw)
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What an A hole.
Title: Re: At least 8 dead in shooting at Indianapolis FedEx facility
Post by: Right_in_Virginia on April 16, 2021, 06:16:26 pm
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'One again, I am lowering the White House flags to half-staff': Biden says the US 'must act' to stop gun violence that 'pierces the very soul of our nation' after Indianapolis mass shooting
Daily Mail/UK, Apr 16, 2021

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9479761/Biden-says-act-stop-gun-violence-lowers-flag-half-staff-again.html

Jack Posobiec
@JackPosobiec


A former NFL player committed a mass shooting and the media barely talked about it. This happened last week.

12:34 AM · Apr 16, 2021·Twitter for iPhone
https://twitter.com/JackPosobiec/status/1382915159782490112
Title: Re: At least 8 dead in shooting at Indianapolis FedEx facility
Post by: mountaineer on April 16, 2021, 06:18:03 pm
Well, Schmuck Todd said his name. 

Meanwhile, the inevitable:
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... President Joe Biden has been briefed on the shooting and top White House aides have been in touch with local leaders on the ground, said White House press secretary Jen Psaki.

"Gun violence is an epidemic in America. But we should not accept it. We must act," Biden said in a statement. He also ordered the flag at the White House to be lowered to half-staff for the fourth time in less than five weeks.

Psaki said the latest in a string of recent shootings shows why more action is needed on guns, pointing to Biden’s support of three bills that would tighten background checks that passed the House last month.  ...
More (https://currently.att.yahoo.com/att/cm/know-indianapolis-shooting-8-dead-110542797.html)

Anyone else tired of this jackass - and many other government officials - inappropriately ordering that the flags be lowered?
Title: Re: At least 8 dead in shooting at Indianapolis FedEx facility
Post by: DCPatriot on April 16, 2021, 06:38:48 pm
TheLeoTerrell
@TheLeoTerrell
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Why is the identity of the shooter in Indianapolis being withheld. Does anyone know?

Was listening to the news in the car when this was being discussed.

First impression was that the shooter blew his own head off and they weren't sure who it was.    :laugh:
Title: Re: At least 8 dead in shooting at Indianapolis FedEx facility
Post by: Wingnut on April 16, 2021, 06:50:36 pm
Was listening to the news in the car when this was being discussed.

First impression was that the shooter blew his own head off and they weren't sure who it was.    :laugh:

Was he, "Roland the headless Thompson gunner..."
Title: Re: At least 8 dead in shooting at Indianapolis FedEx facility
Post by: Victoria33 on April 16, 2021, 06:58:18 pm
@mystery-ak

There is no way to get rid of guns except to get rid of guns.  How does the federal government do that?
1.  Pass a federal law overriding any state law, federal agents in every state pay county Sheriff's deputies to go house to house to get guns.  Some/many deputies will be killed by gun owners.
No. 1 will not work.

2.  Offer money for each gun turned in.  When a person turns in a gun for money, deputies get warrant to search his/her house to look for other guns.  Some/many deputies will be killed by gun owners. No. 2 will not work.

3.  Jesus Christ comes to earth and takes all Christians to Heaven.  Remaining people on earth kill each other with guns; that is the end of the gun problem - no reason to collect guns when there are no people left on earth to shoot guns.

There is no way to collect all guns unless No. 3 happens.
Title: Re: At least 8 dead in shooting at Indianapolis FedEx facility
Post by: mountaineer on April 16, 2021, 07:08:35 pm
@Victoria33: By jove, I think you've got it!  :beer:
Title: Re: At least 8 dead in shooting at Indianapolis FedEx facility
Post by: mountaineer on April 16, 2021, 07:17:16 pm
FedEx shooter ID'd as 19-year-old Brandon Scott Hole https://nypost.com/2021/04/16/fedex-shooter-idd-as-19-year-old-brandon-scott-hole/

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... In police dispatch audio published by Heavy, the suspect was described as a "white male wearing a hat" or hoodie and carrying a rifle type weapon. ...
The Sun (https://www.the-sun.com/news/2716195/who-fedex-indianapolis-shooter-brandon-scott-hole/)

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...  Hole had a previous encounter with police during a mental health call in 2020. A behavioral unit was called to his home in March of 2020 on reports of a man voicing suicidal ideas. The unit encountered Hole, who had purchased a shotgun within 24 hours of the call.

The behavioral unit immediately detained him and took Hole to the hospital.  ...
WTHR (https://www.wthr.com/article/news/investigations/13-investigates/what-we-know-about-the-indianapolis-fedex-mass-shooting-suspect-killed-8-brandon-scott-hole/531-14fe0caf-fbb0-416a-bd19-ad923f5fa836)

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... Reports emerged of people hiding under conveyor belts and being shot in an office and parking lot by a shooter armed with a rifle or machine gun. The weapon was a .223 caliber rifle, according to dispatch audio.   ...
Heavy (https://heavy.com/news/brandon-hole/?fbclid=IwAR0ghpoc4UJxfc3a9OzDA9VKwCNA69tFud2t3QAwh63NwucCSp-BVk4TPSU)
Title: Re: At least 8 dead in shooting at Indianapolis FedEx facility
Post by: mystery-ak on April 16, 2021, 07:22:15 pm
FedEx Shooter Identified As Brandon Scott Hole His Family Warned Local And Federal Authorities About His “Potential For Violence” But They Did Nothing To Stop Him
https://redstatenation.com/fedex-shooter-identified-as-brandon-scott-hole-he-was-on-the-local-and-the-federal-authorities-radar-but-they-did-nothig-to-stop-him/
Title: Re: At least 8 dead in shooting at Indianapolis FedEx facility
Post by: mountaineer on April 16, 2021, 07:39:22 pm
FBI too busy investigating the noose in Bubba Wallace's garage to worry about some nutjob with a shotgun.
Title: Re: At least 8 dead in shooting at Indianapolis FedEx facility
Post by: Sled Dog on April 16, 2021, 08:16:51 pm
Well, Schmuck Todd said his name. 

Meanwhile, the inevitable:More (https://currently.att.yahoo.com/att/cm/know-indianapolis-shooting-8-dead-110542797.html)

Anyone else tired of this jackass - and many other government officials - inappropriately ordering that the flags be lowered?

Well, all the AMERICANS pulled their flags down when the RINOs flatly refused to contest the stolen election.   

And  it took them a while to release the ID information.  They were probably deciding that this incident can't be classified as a innocent-teenager-starting-college-tomorrow-gunned-down-by-cop, so it will feed the Gotta-Have-Red-Flags-Because-We're-Really-Commies narratives.
Title: Re: At least 8 dead in shooting at Indianapolis FedEx facility
Post by: Hoodat on April 16, 2021, 08:31:14 pm
Brandon Scott Hole: 5 Fast Facts You Need to Know

Brandon Scott Hole was identified as the 19-year-old mass shooter who killed eight people and wounded more at an Indianapolis, Indiana, FedEx Ground facility, on Thursday, April 15, 2021.

Hole died at the scene, police believe from a self-inflicted gunshot wound. Hole was a former employee at the FedEx Ground facility, The Wall Street Journal reported and FedEx confirmed. He was fired from FedEx, family and friends told Fox59 reporter Angela Ganote. He last worked there in 2020.

“Law enforcement sources confirm to @PeteWilliamsNBC that the Indianapolis gunman was 20 year old Brandon Scott Hole,” wrote NBC’s Antonia Hylton on Twitter.  .  .  .

1. Authorities Were Warned About Hole Before & Seized a Shotgun ‘From a Dangerous Person,’ Reports Say

2. Responding Officers Said They Found Hole Dead at the Scene; Authorities Were Searching an Indianapolis Home Tied to Him

3. A Witness Said the Shooter Pulled a Gun Out of His Trunk

4. The Dispatch Audio Captured Terrifying Scenes as Officers Kept Finding More Victims

5. Videos Showed the Chaos at the Scene


https://heavy.com/news/brandon-hole/
Title: Re: At least 8 dead in shooting at Indianapolis FedEx facility
Post by: Fishrrman on April 16, 2021, 08:56:28 pm
Photo posted on TOS.
May not be the right person (may be too early), so I won't reproduce here.
But person in the photo, although "not black" does not all "all white", either.
May be of mixed ethnic heritage...
Title: Re: At least 8 dead in shooting at Indianapolis FedEx facility
Post by: mystery-ak on April 16, 2021, 09:50:24 pm
FBI says it interviewed FedEx mass shooter last year
https://apnews.com/article/fedex-indianapolis-mass-shooting-e92ad3117c56357b3b2c71a2903e68a8
Title: Re: At least 8 dead in shooting at Indianapolis FedEx facility
Post by: PeteS in CA on April 17, 2021, 12:13:20 am
Report: Indianapolis FedEx shooter was 19-year-old former employee of the company

https://justthenews.com/nation/crime/report-indianapolis-fedex-shooter-was-19-year-old-former-employee-company

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The perpetrator of the deadly mass shooting at an Indianapolis FedEx facility was a 19-year-old former employee of the company, the Associated Press reported on Friday.

The shooter, identified as 19-year-old Brandon Scott Hole, was "a former employee" of the shipping company, the AP said, citing FedEx sources.

I was wondering what put this FedEx on his radar screen. This explains that and his apparent familiarity with the facility. I going to guess his parting from what was probably an entry-level job was less than amicable.
Title: Re: At least 8 dead in shooting at Indianapolis FedEx facility
Post by: txradioguy on April 17, 2021, 12:15:48 am
Once again the FBI dropped the ball and people died needlessly.

If places like FedEx and Amazon would let their employees carry on the property this wouldn't happen.
Title: Re: At least 8 dead in shooting at Indianapolis FedEx facility
Post by: mystery-ak on April 17, 2021, 01:25:03 am
(https://a57.foxnews.com/static.foxnews.com/foxnews.com/content/uploads/2021/04/1024/576/Mugshot-IMPD.jpg?tl=1&ve=1)
Brandon Scott Hole,
Title: Re: At least 8 dead in shooting at Indianapolis FedEx facility
Post by: mountaineer on April 17, 2021, 02:02:58 am
President Dementia says there's a mass shooting every single day in the US.  :thud:
Title: Re: At least 8 dead in shooting at Indianapolis FedEx facility
Post by: Right_in_Virginia on April 17, 2021, 02:23:37 am
Jack Posobiec
@JackPosobiec


BREAKING: Law enforcement was warned of FedEx shooter one year before for ‘suicide by cop’

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EzH524zXAAA_dMU?format=jpg&name=900x900)

4:52 PM · Apr 16, 2021·Twitter for iPhone
https://twitter.com/JackPosobiec/status/1383161285584510977
Title: Re: At least 8 dead in shooting at Indianapolis FedEx facility
Post by: Smokin Joe on April 17, 2021, 03:08:31 am
So, the question is, how did he get another firearm?
Title: Re: At least 8 dead in shooting at Indianapolis FedEx facility
Post by: Sled Dog on April 17, 2021, 02:05:47 pm
President Dementia says there's a mass shooting every single day in the US.  :thud:

A thousand babies are murdered every day, so....
Title: Re: At least 8 dead in shooting at Indianapolis FedEx facility
Post by: Sled Dog on April 17, 2021, 02:07:23 pm
So, the question is, how did he get another firearm?

Did the Rodents resurrect Operation Fast and Furious?
Title: Re: At least 8 dead in shooting at Indianapolis FedEx facility
Post by: mountaineer on April 18, 2021, 10:46:29 pm
Apr 18, 2021 1:09 PM EST
Suspected FedEx shooter was part of My Little Pony 'brony' subculture
Brandon Scott Hole, allegedly murdered eight people before taking his own life.
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The man accused of orchestrating the mass shooting at a FedEx facility in Indianapolis was a "brony," a term used to refer to adult male followers of the girls' television show My Little Pony, Washington Examiner reports.

Brandon Scott Hole, allegedly murdered eight people before taking his own life.

While Hole's Facebook page has since been taken down. While it offered no clues on what motivated Hole's rampage, it did reveal that he was a fan of the Vancouver-produced television show.

"I hope that I can be with Applejack in the afterlife, my life has no meaning without her," Hole posted shortly before the shooting. Applejack is one of the main ponies on the show. ...
Story at the Post Millennial (https://thepostmillennial.com/fedex-shooter-was-part-of-my-little-pony-brony-subculture)
(https://cms.thepostmillennial.com/content/images/2021/04/mlp.png)

Remember when 19 year olds were adults, storming the beaches of Normandy, and such?