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Title: Pollster Frank Luntz: Trump's 'Big Lie' is working, may cost GOP votes
Post by: mystery-ak on May 06, 2021, 01:42:32 pm
Pollster Frank Luntz: Trump's 'Big Lie' is working, may cost GOP votes
By Tal Axelrod - 05/06/21 08:38 AM EDT


Veteran GOP pollster Frank Luntz warned that former President Trump’s repeated assertions that the 2020 presidential election was rigged against him could hurt Republican efforts to take back the House in 2022.

Luntz noted in an interview on the New York Times podcast “Sway” released Thursday that “more than two-thirds of Republicans believe that the election was stolen,” warning that a widespread and unproven belief that there was rampant fraud last November could turn Republicans off from voting in the midterm elections.

“What Donald Trump is saying is actually telling people it's not worth it to vote. Donald Trump single-handedly may cause people not to vote. And he may be the greatest tool in the Democrats' arsenal to keep control of the House and Senate in 2022,” Luntz said.

The warning comes as Republicans face an intraparty debate over the future of Rep. Liz Cheney (Wyo.), the No. 3 House Republican.

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https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/552076-gop-pollster-frank-luntz-trumps-big-lie-is-working-may-cost-gop-house
Title: Re: Pollster Frank Luntz: Trump's 'Big Lie' is working, may cost GOP votes
Post by: skeeter on May 06, 2021, 01:47:10 pm
Much better for us if we all just pretend it didn't happen.

Thanks for the advise, Frank. Always appreciated.
Title: Re: Pollster Frank Luntz: Trump's 'Big Lie' is working, may cost GOP votes
Post by: Wingnut on May 06, 2021, 01:48:03 pm
Frankie, Go poll someone.
Title: Re: Pollster Frank Luntz: Trump's 'Big Lie' is working, may cost GOP votes
Post by: HoustonSam on May 06, 2021, 02:02:03 pm
“What Donald Trump is saying is actually telling people it's not worth it to vote. Donald Trump single-handedly may cause people not to vote. And he may be the greatest tool in the Democrats' arsenal to keep control of the House and Senate in 2022,” Luntz said.

State-level election integrity reforms are the antidote, not pretending that we didn't see the midnight vote fairy visits to swing states, the actual video evidence of illegal, unobserved vote counting in Georgia, and the Constitutional authority of the PA legislature usurped.
Title: Re: Pollster Frank Luntz: Trump's 'Big Lie' is working, may cost GOP votes
Post by: bilo on May 06, 2021, 04:24:44 pm
State-level election integrity reforms are the antidote, not pretending that we didn't see the midnight vote fairy visits to swing states, the actual video evidence of illegal, unobserved vote counting in Georgia, and the Constitutional authority of the PA legislature usurped.

This is what's encouraging me. We are seeing Red States passing election integrity laws which should help in the future. I know in some cases the State Legislatures are running into problems with Rat Gov.'s but for once an effort is being made instead of the typical Pub "clutching of pearls".

Trump is transforming the Pub party. There is a cadre of fighters and hopefully their numbers will grow.
Title: Re: Pollster Frank Luntz: Trump's 'Big Lie' is working, may cost GOP votes
Post by: Fishrrman on May 07, 2021, 12:19:31 am
bilo wrote:
"This is what's encouraging me. We are seeing Red States passing election integrity laws which should help in the future."

This is a good thing, but...

... unless similar election integrity laws are passed in the battleground states that mattered in 2020 (such as Michigan, Wisconsin, Pennsylvania), the demo-communists will still have the upper hand in "controlling" the elections IN those states in 2022 and in 2024.

And I don't see any election reforms in those states as of yet...
Title: Re: Pollster Frank Luntz: Trump's 'Big Lie' is working, may cost GOP votes
Post by: bilo on May 07, 2021, 03:21:55 am
bilo wrote:
"This is what's encouraging me. We are seeing Red States passing election integrity laws which should help in the future."

This is a good thing, but...

... unless similar election integrity laws are passed in the battleground states that mattered in 2020 (such as Michigan, Wisconsin, Pennsylvania), the demo-communists will still have the upper hand in "controlling" the elections IN those states in 2022 and in 2024.

And I don't see any election reforms in those states as of yet...

I don't think we will see anything signed into law in those States because of the Gov.'s, but we may see some Pub pick ups in 2022 in those States just because of peoples disgust with how the Rats stole the election and what they are doing now. I don't know when the Gov.'s in these States are up for re-election but when they are we can hope the trend continues.

AZ., TX., GA., FL., TN., to name a few have started reforming their election laws, these are key States for Pubs. I'm happy seeing the Pubs working to solidify their base at the same time they are pushing for reform at toss up States.
Title: Re: Pollster Frank Luntz: Trump's 'Big Lie' is working, may cost GOP votes
Post by: Slide Rule on May 07, 2021, 11:48:23 am
Frankie, Go poll someone.


Luntz is no backer of conservative principle. It says in the article that Luntz is a veteran
GOP pollster but nothing about his leanings. I haven't seen his actions helping conservatives
in any way.

If Frankie is conservative he is a dud. Yes he has been on TV making money talking but to
what effect?

Cancel his TV gig and let the dims pay for his dim message.
Title: Re: Pollster Frank Luntz: Trump's 'Big Lie' is working, may cost GOP votes
Post by: Cyber Liberty on May 07, 2021, 01:35:30 pm

Luntz is no backer of conservative principle. It says in the article that Luntz is a veteran
GOP pollster but nothing about his leanings. I haven't seen his actions helping conservatives
in any way.

If Frankie is conservative he is a dud. Yes he has been on TV making money talking but to
what effect?

Cancel his TV gig and let the dims pay for his dim message.

Tucker Carlson has been pulling Luntz's wings off over his leftism.
Title: Re: Pollster Frank Luntz: Trump's 'Big Lie' is working, may cost GOP votes
Post by: PeteS in CA on May 07, 2021, 04:04:32 pm
How does "Trump's 'Big Lie' is working" not contradict "may cost GOP votes"?
Title: Re: Pollster Frank Luntz: Trump's 'Big Lie' is working, may cost GOP votes
Post by: goatprairie on May 07, 2021, 04:09:47 pm
Biden won, Trump lost....fairly, squarely, and bigly. Trump's ego demands that he not accept losing to a moldy sack of potatoes named Joe Biden.
But lose he did.
Get over Trump, and get on with a different candidate who won't lie to you nearly as much as Trump.
Trump is a loser...ditch him and get a better candidate for 2024.
Title: Re: Pollster Frank Luntz: Trump's 'Big Lie' is working, may cost GOP votes
Post by: Wingnut on May 07, 2021, 05:20:00 pm
Biden won, Trump lost....fairly, squarely, and bigly. Trump's ego demands that he not accept losing to a moldy sack of potatoes named Joe Biden.
But lose he did.
Get over Trump, and get on with a different candidate who won't lie to you nearly as much as Trump.
Trump is a loser...ditch him and get a better candidate for 2024.

Man it must be hard for you to walk with the stick placed up your rectum.
Title: Re: Pollster Frank Luntz: Trump's 'Big Lie' is working, may cost GOP votes
Post by: Right_in_Virginia on May 07, 2021, 05:33:20 pm
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Donald J. Trump
10:11am May 7, 2021


At 6:31 in the morning on November 4th, a dump of 149,772 votes came in to the State of Michigan. Biden received 96% of those votes and the State miraculously went to him. Has the Michigan State Senate started their review of the Fraudulent Presidential Election of 2020 yet, or are they about to start? If not, they should be run out of office.

Likewise, at 3:42 in the morning, a dump of 143,379 votes came in to the state of Wisconsin, also miraculously, given to Biden. Where did these “votes” come from? Both were State Election changing events, and that is on top of the other corruption without even including the fact that neither state got Legislative approval, which is required under the United States Constitution.


https://www.donaldjtrump.com/desk/desk-sv5wzzsjev/   
Title: Re: Pollster Frank Luntz: Trump's 'Big Lie' is working, may cost GOP votes
Post by: Right_in_Virginia on May 07, 2021, 06:00:17 pm
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Title: Re: Pollster Frank Luntz: Trump's 'Big Lie' is working, may cost GOP votes
Post by: christian on May 08, 2021, 04:02:27 am
Odd how democrats outrageous lying for many decades is not a problem, but accusing Republicans of lying is their destruction.  Looks like many liars believe their unity/solidarity will overthrow reality!
Title: Re: Pollster Frank Luntz: Trump's 'Big Lie' is working, may cost GOP votes
Post by: goatprairie on May 08, 2021, 02:13:24 pm
Odd how democrats outrageous lying for many decades is not a problem, but accusing Republicans of lying is their destruction.  Looks like many liars believe their unity/solidarity will overthrow reality!
Two wrongs don't make  a right. Following Trump down his path of lies will only lead to more disaster for the GOP.
Title: Re: Pollster Frank Luntz: Trump's 'Big Lie' is working, may cost GOP votes
Post by: skeeter on May 08, 2021, 02:22:53 pm
Two wrongs don't make  a right. Following Trump down his path of lies will only lead to more disaster for the GOP.
On the other hand I hear Mitt Romney could use good county coordinator in your area. Why not give his office a buzz?
Title: Re: Pollster Frank Luntz: Trump's 'Big Lie' is working, may cost GOP votes
Post by: Cyber Liberty on May 08, 2021, 02:29:58 pm
On the other hand I hear Mitt Romney could use good county coordinator in your area. Why not give his office a buzz?

I wasn't aware John Brennan is a Briefer.
Title: Re: Pollster Frank Luntz: Trump's 'Big Lie' is working, may cost GOP votes
Post by: MajorClay on May 08, 2021, 02:53:17 pm
I don't believe it.
Title: Re: Pollster Frank Luntz: Trump's 'Big Lie' is working, may cost GOP votes
Post by: Sled Dog on May 08, 2021, 04:04:16 pm
Biden won, Trump lost....fairly, squarely, and bigly. Trump's ego demands that he not accept losing to a moldy sack of potatoes named Joe Biden.
But lose he did.
Get over Trump, and get on with a different candidate who won't lie to you nearly as much as Trump.
Trump is a loser...ditch him and get a better candidate for 2024.


That's the Big Lie.   Naturally the shills have to repeat it.

The facts are that Trump won the election and the Rodents stole it.

Title: Re: Pollster Frank Luntz: Trump's 'Big Lie' is working, may cost GOP votes
Post by: Right_in_Virginia on May 10, 2021, 12:39:54 pm
Jack Posobiec
@JackPosobiec


Our pipelines can be hacked but the election was the most secure ever

11:44 PM · May 9, 2021·Twitter for iPhone
https://twitter.com/JackPosobiec/status/1391599995166547970
Title: Re: Pollster Frank Luntz: Trump's 'Big Lie' is working, may cost GOP votes
Post by: goatprairie on May 10, 2021, 02:59:31 pm

That's the Big Lie.   Naturally the shills have to repeat it.

The facts are that Trump won the election and the Rodents stole it.
But you have no facts to show massive fraud. Every time you Trumpsters claim massive fraud, you are asked to prove it. But you just keep screaming fraud without proving anything.
Title: Re: Pollster Frank Luntz: Trump's 'Big Lie' is working, may cost GOP votes
Post by: Cyber Liberty on May 10, 2021, 03:37:53 pm
But you have no facts to show massive fraud. Every time you Trumpsters claim massive fraud, you are asked to prove it. But you just keep screaming fraud without proving anything.

The evidence has been explained to you more times that I can count, but you refuse to see it.  That's on you, not everybody else. 

As another said, I can deal with ideological differences, but a refusal to face reality is hopeless.