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Sanguine:
Grrrrrr.   Trump would be less bad.

Jazzhead:
Trump's alt-right fascism is worse,  not least because, if not repudiated, it will likely destroy conservatism as a political movement in this nation. 

Responsible conservatives from the sixties onward have recognized the necessity of repudiating the racist crapola that infests so much of the nativist right.   Now we as a party are on the verge of embracing it.   It will prove the death of our movement unless we get out front and disassociate ourselves from it.   

The NeverTrumpers need to stick to their principles and kick Trumpism to the curb.   George Will is right - only by defeating Trump will we live to fight another day.     

ABX:
I agree they are both awful. The only reason Trumps crimes haven't risen to the level of Hillary's is simply he hasn't been in the position of power to do it, but as for attitude toward the law and constitutuon, they both seem to not respect either.

Sanguine:

--- Quote from: Jazzhead on July 06, 2016, 10:35:55 am ---Trump's alt-right fascism is worse,  not least because, if not repudiated, it will likely destroy conservatism as a political movement in this nation. 

Responsible conservatives from the sixties onward have recognized the necessity of repudiating the racist crapola that infests so much of the nativist right.   Now we as a party are on the verge of embracing it.   It will prove the death of our movement unless we get out front and disassociate ourselves from it.   

The NeverTrumpers need to stick to their principles and kick Trumpism to the curb.   George Will is right - only by defeating Trump will we live to fight another day.   

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I don't really understand that argument.  Trump is clearly not a conservative, so how will he destroy conservatism?

ABX:

--- Quote from: Sanguine on July 06, 2016, 10:41:56 am ---I don't really understand that argument.  Trump is clearly not a conservative, so how will he destroy conservatism?

--- End quote ---

By being painted and held up as the face of it. He is every leftists parody of Conservatism and they will use him as proof of their false stereotypes.

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