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General Category => World News => Topic started by: mountaineer on November 28, 2022, 09:29:52 pm
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Another sign of things to come in the USA? Gee, I hope not.
Netherlands to close up to 3,000 farms to comply with EU rules
Government tries to cut down on nitrogen pollution in a move set to reignite tensions with farmers who say the industry is unfairly targeted
By James Crisp, Europe Editor
28 November 2022 • 4:02pm
The Dutch government plans to buy and close down up to 3,000 farms near environmentally sensitive areas to comply with EU nature preservation rules.
The Netherlands is attempting to cut down its nitrogen pollution and will push ahead with compulsory purchases if not enough farms take up the offer voluntarily.
Farmers will be offered a deal “well over” the worth of the farm, according to the government plan that is targeting the closure of 2,000 to 3,000 farms or other major polluting businesses.
Earlier leaked versions of the plan put the figure at 120 per cent of the farm’s value but that figure has not yet been confirmed by ministers.
“There is no better offer coming,” Christianne van der Wal, nitrogen minister, told MPs on Friday. She said compulsory purchases would be made with “pain in the heart”, if necessary. ...
The Telegraph, via MSN (https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/uknews/netherlands-to-close-up-to-3000-farms-to-comply-with-eu-rules/ar-AA14Eokt)
**nononono*
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Considering the Dutch don't have much fighting spirit in them, and the lack of a 2nd Amendment there, these farmers better start packin' their bags...
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Imagine a Liberal American who fled to the Netherlands because of Trump and bought a greenearth all organic farm. Only to have it confiscated by the government/corporations while you are evicted. Oh yea man! That Trump guy was awful!!
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Using pumps and dikes is not sustainable. Free the Sea!
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Lunacy. Pure and simple.
This will not end well.
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Lunacy. Pure and simple.
This will not end well.
All part of the Great Global Reset and no things are not going to end well.
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The Dutch farmers have started protesting again today and were immediately hunted down and disbanded by the police and riot squads.
https://twitter.com/EvaVlaar/status/1598326901596102657
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All part of the Great Global Reset and no things are not going to end well.
I wonder what the average acre equivalent of those farms are. Don't think they are as big as the American Midwest, but more to the point they don't seem like the big mono-crop concerns like here, and are more directly tied to the immediate food supply.
If that's the case, they are taking a large amount of food off the table for a fake scam of a theory, and like you said that won't end well.
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Report: The Real Agenda for Taking Over 3,000 Dutch Farms
By M Dowling -December 17, 20224
As the Dutch government insists it must shut down 3,000 farms and kill off one-third to half of the farm animals to meet EU nitrogen guidelines, farmers and their many allies in The Netherlands continue to protest.
According to The Defender staff, the RFK Jr. publication:
“Parliamentarian Johan Remkes, who has been negotiating with farmers for the government, said farmers have options — they can drastically innovate farming practices, shift to a different type of business, relocate or voluntarily stop farming.
“Christianne van der Wal-Zeggelink, minister for nature and nitrogen policy, said the government will offer to purchase farms at more than 100% of their value, but if voluntary efforts fail, farmers will face forced buyouts.
https://www.independentsentinel.com/report-the-real-agenda-for-taking-over-3000-dutch-farms/
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It's a land grab wrapped in green.
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Another sign of things to come in the USA? Gee, I hope not.
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The Dutch government plans to buy and close down
up to 3,000 farms near environmentally sensitive areas
to comply with EU nature preservation rules.
The Netherlands is attempting to cut down its nitrogen pollution
and will push ahead with compulsory purchases
if not enough farms take up the offer voluntarily.
Something kind of like that actually was tried in Ohio in 2000.
The federal government proposed establishing a national park
in Madison County, several miles north of London Ohio.
All of the affected area is excellent farm land.
The rules they proposed were that, any land owner could sell voluntarily,
but could refuse to sell for as long as they live.
But once the owner dies, selling to the government would be mandatory.
Inheriting land in the affected area would be eliminated.
There was enough of a public outcry that the proposal was cancelled.
That, and Clinton was no longer in office.
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Last similar event was in Post Apartheid South Africa.
Did not end well for the farmers, in the name of left leaning diversity.
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Using pumps and dikes is not sustainable. Free the Sea!
And I bet there are some farmers giving that some thought if the grab is successful.
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Me thinks the price of tulips bulbs is going to increase. Got tulip bulb futures?
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It may be coming here, too:
https://agecon.unl.edu/30x30-program-federal-land-grab (https://agecon.unl.edu/30x30-program-federal-land-grab)
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What I see for the long game is if the economy gets bad enough and people can't make the mortgage payments, the FedGov will bum rush in with some smoke and mirrors emergency action to take over those properties en masse whether they can do it constitutionally or not.
Then it will be dominoes from there, one big strong arm action that's over before anyone realizes what's happened.
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It may be coming here, too:
https://agecon.unl.edu/30x30-program-federal-land-grab (https://agecon.unl.edu/30x30-program-federal-land-grab)
Thx for the heads up.. we have 3 rented farms that based on geo-positioning could be targets.
Just like oil, Farmers are a conservative constituency. Who Biden targets is not an accident.
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The plan:
Fewer farms = less food.
Less food = fewer people.
Works... for them.
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The plan:
Fewer farms = less food.
Less food = fewer people.
Works... for them.
I seriously don't know why people can't see thru this smokescreen. Feeling righteous is much better than eating I guess.
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I seriously don't know why people can't see thru this smokescreen. Feeling righteous is much better than eating I guess.
Until it reaches a boiling point...Sri Lanka
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"It's a fool that looks for logic in the chambers of the human heart."
These are true fanatics. Logic, reason, or reality itself has no meaning to them.
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I seriously don't know why people can't see thru this smokescreen. Feeling righteous is much better than eating I guess.
Well, there's always lab meat, bugs, and Soylent Green... :shrug:
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What if you are called to a guy who is seething and foaming at the mouth.
You tell him calmly, if you pull that trigger you will kill yourself.
What do you imagine he will do. When you believe that everything is nothing.
Fanatics are fanatics. They do not live in our world.
Earth/Mankind bad. Must destroy everything ... to save everything ... AAAAGH bleep it all
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Until it reaches a boiling point...Sri Lanka
And by then it's generally too late. At least Sri Lankans are a little bit closer to the land. Western society - not so much.
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These are true fanatics. Logic, reason, or reality itself has no meaning to them.
Climate and Environmentalism is their religion. It is their sacred duty to convert the rest of us, by force if necessary, to their faith. If some die as a result, that's just part of the sacrifice that must be made
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And by then it's generally too late. At least Sri Lankans are a little bit closer to the land. Western society - not so much.
That's because such a small percentage of the population grows the food in the west. City dwellers have no clue, either about the agricultural lifestyle, the work or logistics involved, nor the technical proficiency required for so few to feed so many. Take just the 26,000 farmers and ranchers in ND out of production (doesn't seem like so many, does it, to people who live in cities of over a million), and reduce agricultural output by:
1.8 million cattle
335 million pounds of milk.
Sorted by Value of Production in Dollars
Commodity Planted All Purpose Acres Harvested Acres Yield Production Price per Unit Value of Production in Dollars
SOYBEANS
SOYBEANS 7,250,000 7,120,000 25.5 BU / ACRE 181,560,000 BU 12.6 $ / BU 2,323,968,000
CORN
CORN, GRAIN 3,630,000 105 BU / ACRE 381,150,000 BU 5.86 $ / BU 2,020,095,000
CORN 4,100,000
CORN, SILAGE 250,000 7.5 TONS / ACRE 1,875,000 TONS
WHEAT
WHEAT 6,470,000 6,090,000 32.2 BU / ACRE 196,195,000 BU 9.35 $ / BU 1,793,513,000
WHEAT, SPRING, (EXCL DURUM) 5,500,000 5,210,000 33.5 BU / ACRE 174,535,000 BU 8.82 $ / BU 1,509,728,000
WHEAT, SPRING, DURUM 880,000 820,000 24 BU / ACRE 19,680,000 BU 13.9 $ / BU 267,648,000
WHEAT, WINTER 90,000 60,000 33 BU / ACRE 1,980,000 BU 8.27 $ / BU 16,137,000
CANOLA
CANOLA 1,750,000 1,720,000 1,340 LB / ACRE 2,304,800,000 LB 33.4 $ / CWT 751,365,000
HAY & HAYLAGE
HAY & HAYLAGE 280,784,000
HAY & HAYLAGE, (EXCL ALFALFA) 141,680,000
HAY & HAYLAGE, ALFALFA 30,000 139,104,000
HAY
HAY 2,020,000 1.04 TONS / ACRE 2,093,000 TONS 154 $ / TON 280,784,000
HAY, (EXCL ALFALFA) 1,100,000 1.15 TONS / ACRE 1,265,000 TONS 113 $ / TON 141,680,000
HAY, ALFALFA 920,000 0.9 TONS / ACRE 828,000 TONS 172 $ / TON 139,104,000
POTATOES
POTATOES 76,000 75,000 300 CWT / ACRE 22,500,000 CWT 11.5 $ / CWT 258,750,000
POTATOES, PROCESSING 9.650 $ / CWT
POTATOES, FRESH MARKET 16.500 $ / CWT
SUNFLOWER
SUNFLOWER 494,000 482,000 1,581 LB / ACRE 761,900,000 LB 32.6 $ / CWT 241,059,000
BARLEY
BARLEY 580,000 430,000 51 BU / ACRE 21,930,000 BU 5.38 $ / BU 115,133,000
PEAS
PEAS, DRY EDIBLE 255,000 242,000 1,480 LB / ACRE 3,582,000 CWT 19.9 $ / CWT 66,267,000
FLAXSEED
FLAXSEED 190,000 171,000 13 BU / ACRE 2,223,000 BU 25.9 $ / BU 60,021,000
LENTILS
LENTILS 120,000 114,000 830 LB / ACRE 946,000 CWT 37.6 $ / CWT 33,772,000
OATS
OATS 355,000 83,000 48 BU / ACRE 3,984,000 BU 4.8 $ / BU 17,330,000
CHICKPEAS
CHICKPEAS 16,300 15,700 1,290 LB / ACRE 203,000 CWT 41.7 $ / CWT 8,506,000
RYE
RYE 88,000 36,000 32 BU / ACRE 1,152,000 BU 5.95 $ / BU 6,566,000
SUGARBEETS
SUGARBEETS 226,000 222,000 29.2 TONS / ACRE 6,482,000 TONS
and that's just one state (39,300,000 acres in production)
The average farm here has over 1,500 acres.
Source: https://www.nass.usda.gov/Quick_Stats/Ag_Overview/stateOverview.php?state=NORTH%20DAKOTA (https://www.nass.usda.gov/Quick_Stats/Ag_Overview/stateOverview.php?state=NORTH%20DAKOTA)