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The end of Sarah Palin is here
By Chris Cillizza
January 26, 2017
Remember how former Alaska governor Sarah Palin was going to use her political celebrity to build an army of like-minded politicians via her political action committee?
Yeah, not so much.
Michael Beckel of the Center for Public Integrity flagged for me this news: Palin has officially shut down Sarah PAC as of the end of 2016. Kaput. Donezo.
But, that's not even the real story. Again, via Beckel: In the 2016 election cycle, Palin's Sarah PAC spent $830,000 on consultants and just $82,500 in donations to other candidates — a.k.a its ostensible purpose. Not only that but Sarah PAC spent $168,000 on travel and lodging expenses during the 2016 election — double what it donated to candidates, which is its ostensible … well you get the idea.
This was not an isolated incident. In the 2010 election cycle — when Sarah PAC was functioning on all cylinders — it raised $5.6 million and spent $4.3 million. Just $509,000 of that total — less than 12 percent of total expenditures — went to either candidates or political/party committees.
What the closure of Palin's PAC — and the remarkably small amount of spending on actual candidates for office — makes clear is that a) her time as a national leader for Republicans is over and b) Palin's prime interest was never really anything other than promoting her own political brand.
Read more at:
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2017/01/26/heres-definitive-proof-sarah-palin-didnt-care-about-much-in-politics-other-than-sarah-palin/?utm_term=.08e61082a4a7 (https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2017/01/26/heres-definitive-proof-sarah-palin-didnt-care-about-much-in-politics-other-than-sarah-palin/?utm_term=.08e61082a4a7)
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She became a parody of a parody of a parody
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She became a parody of a parody of a parody
if given a choice between listening to a Palin rally and sticking a awl in their ear needlepoint would become the national pasttime
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I really liked her, and then I read her book, and the more she talked the less I liked her. Her word salad Trump endorsement and blaming Obama because her son beat up his girlfriend while drunk sealed the deal for me.
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She was great in her day
in a Cassius Clay sorta way
but time caught up to her
and now she must defer
To being the whacked out broad she always were.
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Every single word she spoke was a donation to DT.
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Speaking as one of her biggest defenders in the past, she lost my support when turning on conservatism and backstabbing Ted Cruz. I wasn't thrilled with her Romney approval and her continued backing of McCain was Strike two.
Word salad or not, the things she supported once were bedrock conservative ideals. Why she turned on them isn't an issue. Just the fact she turned on them. I regret the time and effort I wasted.
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Probably true but I'd expect Cillizza to overstate things. Is this really unusual behavior for PACs?
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Oh goody! People on our side sending the left wing Washington post more hits on their website so as to put more money in their pockets!
Also helping them to spread the meme that conservative politicians are greedy lying corrupt sacks of sh*t is also very useful to our movement.
This is how we WIN people! Keep up the good work!
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Probably true but I'd expect Cillizza to overstate things. Is this really unusual behavior for PACs?
Not really. They all spend more than they distribute. PACs are a business like any other.
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Word salad or not, the things she supported once were bedrock conservative ideals. Why she turned on them isn't an issue. Just the fact she turned on them. I regret the time and effort I wasted.
888high58888
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I really liked her, and then I read her book, and the more she talked the less I liked her. Her word salad Trump endorsement and blaming Obama because her son beat up his girlfriend while drunk sealed the deal for me.
Her early story is great and something we can learn from. But then she let it go to her head and became the pop culture parody of herself. If she was the same person that took on the school board, took on the corrupt city council, and took on cronyism in the State government, she would still be someone to look up to. She traded making a difference for making a noise. She went from fighting cronyism to campaigning for it.
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She was great in her day
in a Cassius Clay sorta way
but time caught up to her
and now she must defer
To being the whacked out broad she always were.
@corbe
Lol
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Speaking as one of her biggest defenders in the past, she lost my support when turning on conservatism and backstabbing Ted Cruz. I wasn't thrilled with her Romney approval and her continued backing of McCain was Strike two.
Word salad or not, the things she supported once were bedrock conservative ideals. Why she turned on them isn't an issue. Just the fact she turned on them. I regret the time and effort I wasted.
:beer: I've lost a lot of respect for Palin. To me she is a has-been and will never be anymore than that.
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She wasn't nearly as successful as her fans seemed to believe.
Of the candidates she endorsed I suspect a 25% success rate is probably a pretty optimistic estimate.
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[quote author=CatherineofAragon link=topic=248117.msg1219808#msg1219808 https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2017/01/26/heres-definitive-proof-sarah-palin-didnt-care-about-much-in-politics-other-than-sarah-palin/?utm_term=.08e61082a4a7
Oh goody! People on our side sending the left wing Washington post more hits on their website so as to put more money in their pockets!
Also helping them to spread the meme that conservative politicians are greedy lying corrupt sacks of sh*t is also very useful to our movement.
This is how we WIN people! Keep up the good work!
@DiogenesLamp, can you chill with the drama?
I told you on another thread, I'm done with simple-minded thinking that tells me I have to live in a bubble and only read from certain "approved" sources. If you want to see what that produces, go visit another site we're familiar with.
If you don't believe the figures Cillizza gave, you're free to research and refute them. If you can do that, I'll happily delete this post.
I don't consider Palin to be on my side. I think she's a self-promoting grifter and a rough-edged broad who probably will be better off staying in Alaska where she can be nearby the next time a family brawl breaks out.
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Remember how former Alaska governor Sarah Palin was going to use her political celebrity to build an army of like-minded politicians via her political action committee?
I don't know, but maybe once one of your army of likeminded politicians captures the presidency, it's time to retire anyway.
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Speaking as one of her biggest defenders in the past, she lost my support when turning on conservatism and backstabbing Ted Cruz. I wasn't thrilled with her Romney approval and her continued backing of McCain was Strike two.
Word salad or not, the things she supported once were bedrock conservative ideals. Why she turned on them isn't an issue. Just the fact she turned on them. I regret the time and effort I wasted.
Same here. I thought she was a cowgirl turns out she was just white trash going for whoever was paying the bills; so to speak.
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Not really. They all spend more than they distribute. PACs are a business like any other.
"Michael, campaigning is bigger than US Steel."
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I told you on another thread, I'm done with simple-minded thinking that tells me I have to live in a bubble and only read from certain "approved" sources. If you want to see what that produces, go visit another site we're familiar with.
Self appointed "minders" like the ones Saddam Hussein used to have to lead the media around to report the stories he wanted appointed.
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Self appointed "minders" like the ones Saddam Hussein used to have to lead the media around to report the stories he wanted appointed.
The ignore button is a nice thing. I do notice however, as they scold others for using what they say are liberal sources, they themselves, selectively choose other liberal sources to post from. Some people don't want to discuss the issue, they want to just try to control things.
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Self appointed "minders" like the ones Saddam Hussein used to have to lead the media around to report the stories he wanted appointed.
I would suggest they mind themselves and enjoy the bliss inside the bubble.
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Self appointed "minders" like the ones Saddam Hussein used to have to lead the media around to report the stories he wanted appointed.
GBR doesn't need a Zampolit
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Oh goody! People on our side sending the left wing Washington post more hits on their website so as to put more money in their pockets!
Also helping them to spread the meme that conservative politicians are greedy lying corrupt sacks of sh*t is also very useful to our movement.
This is how we WIN people! Keep up the good work!
What's factually wrong with the stories? was the spending to donation ratio wrong? Too much money listed as being brought in? Not enough?
Did you read the story? Or are you going to be just like the Libs and dismiss the article out of hand without reading the whole thing?
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I used to "Like" her on Book face, but her constant cozying up to McStain against the conservatives in the AZ Party tore it for me. The Party has had its ups and downs over the years, but they finally got it together at a State Convention and censured McStain for one of his many suck-ups to Obama, and she bitched and bitched about the terrible Party.
Bye-bye Sarah. You could have been a contender.
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GBR doesn't need a Zampolit
That's why you can see stuff posted from so many different kinds of sources.
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"Michael, campaigning is bigger than US Steel."
Campaigning and consulting are the path to riches in the modern age. Neither requires any actual need to back up the hype, just to keep saying what people want to hear.
I never really understood the logic of hiring a professional consultant/consulting firm. If I want something done, I'm going to ask someone that actually knows what they are doing, not a PR dept that worked for my opponent last cycle. I'd find that a pretty hard situation to trust.
How is a guy that did his best to torpedo you/your side of the aisle gonna be relied on? He isn't gonna dish out the goods on your opponent due to NDAs so what good is he? And as most of these guys are mercs by design, there is a strong likelihood that they personally or their people/contacts/network DID work for the opposition.
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The ignore button is a nice thing. I do notice however, as they scold others for using what they say are liberal sources, they themselves, selectively choose other liberal sources to post from. Some people don't want to discuss the issue, they want to just try to control things.
Meanwhile we have posters who say TBR is a terrible place, with information locked down tighter than the old USSR. Just read up and down this thread.
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The moment it happened for me:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=syAb_7Qt1TE (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=syAb_7Qt1TE)
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I used to "Like" her on Book face, but her constant cozying up to McStain against the conservatives in the AZ Party tore it for me. The Party has had its ups and downs over the years, but they finally got it together at a State Convention and censured McStain for one of his many suck-ups to Obama, and she bitched and bitched about the terrible Party.
Bye-bye Sarah. You could have been a contender.
She (her page) also started posting a ton of half-truth, clickbait, buzzfeed type articles. I dropped a lot of pages for formerly good people like Alan West because they all seemed to have sold out to clickbait companies. I am not sure anyone that has anything to do with the person they claim to represent on those pages actually are involved in them. I would not be surprised if some company like Buzzfeed now owns most of those pages and just targets the articles to the audience. I know a couple of local community pages I run started getting offers to buy them as soon as I reached a few thousand followers.
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I would never begrudge her per McCain, former running mates, the Veep especially, do not criticize the top of the ticket.
I read some other pieces by the author whom seems reasonable but just because he says it, doesn't mean it is so. He probably is a liberal.
America is a country that forgives and a country of 2nd, 3rd and 4th chances.
She got off to a bad start and the media certainly didn't overlook that.
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McCain is the only reason we know about her.
That's it's own topic.
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I would never begrudge her per McCain, former running mates, the Veep especially, do not criticize the top of the ticket.
I read some other pieces by the author whom seems reasonable but just because he says it, doesn't mean it is so. He probably is a liberal.
America is a country that forgives and a country of 2nd, 3rd and 4th chances.
She got off to a bad start and the media certainly didn't overlook that.
@TomSea
Again, if you would like to do some research and disprove Cillizza's figures, I'll delete the original post, or ask the Mods to do it.
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I would never begrudge her per McCain, former running mates, the Veep especially, do not criticize the top of the ticket.
I read some other pieces by the author whom seems reasonable but just because he says it, doesn't mean it is so. He probably is a liberal.
America is a country that forgives and a country of 2nd, 3rd and 4th chances.
She got off to a bad start and the media certainly didn't overlook that.
Only when people do something to earn those 2nd third and fourth chances.
McCain was 'owed' one mulligan in the name of decency (and IMO not even that), not eternal fealty 'no matter what' he did.
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I would never begrudge her per McCain, former running mates, the Veep especially, do not criticize the top of the ticket.
I can appreciate that. I live in AZ, and I too allowed her a lot of leeway because if McStain hadn't have chosen her for Veep, nobody but I would have heard of her. But when she started attacking the people in the State Party, she was attacking my friends and that was enough.
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Only when people do something to earn those 2nd third and fourth chances.
McCain was 'owed' one mulligan in the name of decency (and IMO not even that), not eternal fealty 'no matter what' he did.
:amen:
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McCain is the only reason we know about her.
That's it's own topic.
Not me. I knew about her long before from her battles up in Alaska.
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Exhibit A of when someone's 15 minutes stretches into 8 years....
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If you don't believe the figures Cillizza gave, you're free to research and refute them. If you can do that, I'll happily delete this post.
I don't give a crap if a writer from the Washington Post has achieved a quantum score of infinity in accurateness, it is foolish to bash or help others bash people identified with your own side, and it is foolish to help put money in the pockets of people who hate you and want to destroy you.
To help you grasp the essential point here, I will cite Winston Churchill.
"If Hitler invaded hell I would make at least a favourable reference to the devil in the House of Commons."
If that doesn't get the point across, how about Reagan?
Thou shalt not speak ill of any fellow Republican.
Spreading leftist talking points is detrimental to the cause, even if they happen to be true. Helping to put money in leftest pockets by linking to them as sources of news, is also bad tactics.
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McCain is the only reason we know about her.
That's it's own topic.
Who's this "we" of whom you speak? Do you have a mouse in your pocket? You certainly aren't speaking for me, I knew of her well before the 2008 campaign, and I live in AZ. I guess I'm a bit of a junkie about this stuff.
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@TomSea
Again, if you would like to do some research and disprove Cillizza's figures, I'll delete the original post, or ask the Mods to do it.
How defensive, the article than about some figures.
@CatherineofAragon
If one singles out my post while others don't discuss "the figures", I think that is unfair treatment.
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You folks are too harsh. She may be down and out politically and a dunce, but she is still hot. That's all I care about.
(http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2012/02/16/article-2102129-11C25B09000005DC-44_306x715.jpg)
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As usual, I guess I'm taking Ted Cruz's actual position, not criticizing Palin, which he went on record of doing before.
As usual, the Cruz cult don't follow what he said but stone others who don't see things like they do.
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. I guess I'm a bit of a junkie about this stuff.
No, just informed beyond the typical MSM-level politics of the average 'conservative'. Which makes you a rare individual, unfortunately.
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The ignore button is a nice thing. I do notice however, as they scold others for using what they say are liberal sources, they themselves, selectively choose other liberal sources to post from. Some people don't want to discuss the issue, they want to just try to control things.
Well since I am the one that brought up the subject, perhaps you are referring to me?
I dare say you will search long and hard and futilely before you find an example of myself citing the Washington Post or the New York times on a political matter.
I do not use Fascist Book. I avoid Google like the plague. I don't twit. I'm not a member of the Apple Cult. I don't Amazon. I don't see left wing movies. I don't starbuck, and I don't knowingly give any money or prestige to Liberal oriented companies.
I urge others to do the same. If you don't realize you are in a war, you will inevitably lose.
I'm not trying to control anyone, I am merely pointing out what seem to me to be good practices for waging a political conflict with the left.
People can chose to follow them or not, just like they can be grown up enough to deal with criticism when they hear it.
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As usual, I guess I'm taking Ted Cruz's actual position, not criticizing Palin, which he went on record of doing before.
As usual, the Cruz cult don't follow what he said but stone others who don't see things like they do.
The Ted Cruz you used to mock multiple times a thread and post neverending memes against?
Dunno who you think you're fooling but it isn't many of the people here. You punched your ticket on Ted Cruz a LONG time ago.
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@DiogenesLamp
I don't give a crap if a writer from the Washington Post has achieved a quantum score of infinity in accurateness, it is foolish to bash or help others bash people identified with your own side, and it is foolish to help put money in the pockets of people who hate you and want to destroy you.
Pretty sure you read me the first time when I said she isn't on "my side."
So am I to take it that you aren't going to do any research of your own to try and refute those figures?
Got it.
To help you grasp the essential point here, I will cite Winston Churchill.
I consider you a hysteric, lacking in reason, and susceptible to the worst aspects of clannish party politics...not qualified to instruct a kindergartner.
Grasp that.
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(http://i.imgur.com/8jHvMpe.png)
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GBR doesn't need a Zampolit
Then it's a good thing it doesn't have any.
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@TomSea
How defensive, the article than about some figures.
What?
If one singles out my post while others don't discuss "the figures", I think that is unfair treatment.
It's "unfair" for me to "single out" your post by responding to it? And offering to remove my original post if you can disprove the figures?
Okay then.
Another person who won't try and refute them.
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I do not use Fascist Book. I avoid Google like the plague. I don't twit. I'm not a member of the Apple Cult. I don't Amazon. I don't see left wing movies. I don't starbuck, and I don't knowingly give any money or prestige to Liberal oriented companies.
@DiogenesLamp
I'll bet you're a barrel of laughs at parties.
What do you do for fun? Sit on an upright chair (I'll bet you don't do cushions) and play with an abacus while preening about your self-righteous asceticism?
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Then it's a good thing it doesn't have any.
There are a few here who are trying their best.
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Pretty sure you read me the first time when I said she isn't on "my side."
As if you get to decide who the Press is going to declare on your side. No, you are wed to her like a millstone around your neck. Pleading no involvement is fruitless. So far as the vast majority of people in the United States are concerned, Sarah Palin represents your friend and political ally, whether you see it that way or not is irrelevant to the politics of it.
I consider you a hysteric, lacking in reason, and susceptible to the worst aspects of clannish party politics...not qualified to instruct a kindergartner.
Grasp that.
Meh.
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Same here. I thought she was a cowgirl turns out she was just white trash going for whoever was paying the bills; so to speak.
@Idaho_Cowboy
Actually my position mirrors Ted Cruz's more, not being critical of her.
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@Idaho_Cowboy
Actually my position mirrors Ted Cruz's more, not being critical of her.
See my prior post on your Ted Cruz associations not so very long ago.
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Let's get past insulting fellow TBR members and refocus on the topic at hand, shall we?
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Let's get past insulting fellow TBR members and refocus on the topic at hand, shall we?
There is nothing insulting about pointing out the truth. Especially when said poster is wrapping himself in a Ted Cruz flag which he himself brought up.
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There is nothing insulting about pointing out the truth. Especially when said poster is wrapping himself in a Ted Cruz flag which he himself brought up.
Nobody is wrapping themselves up in a flag; this is just historic fact.
So, yes, disprove what Cruz said or let it be.
Sen. Ted Cruz says he “loves” Sarah Palin and “regardless of what she does in 2016, I will always be a big fan.”
Read more: http://dailycaller.com/2016/01/19/ted-cruz-walks-back-campaigns-critical-comments-of-sarah-palin/#ixzz4Y2BUuPpv
Alleged Cruz supporters can part ways with Cruz on supporting Romney, Trump and saying he loves Palin; but please don't criticize others if they see things the same way as Cruz.
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Also, I'll bet a dollar to a doughnut that I wasn't the first person to bring up Cruz, once again, a proven falsehood.
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If the figures by this Washington Post writer are what need to be rebuked and if this is such a big story, why is he the only writing about it?
Most of the politicians we talk about have had some financial questions.
(https://thespeechatimeforchoosing.files.wordpress.com/2014/02/u-s-senator-ted-cruz-r-tx-l-gives-a-thumbs-up-after-introducing-former-alaska-governor-sarah-palin-r-ak-to-speak-to-the-conservative-political-action-conference-cpac.jpg)
(http://www.teaparty.org/wp-content/uploads/2013/10/palin-cruz-afp.jpg)
Cruz is a Republican too; those who don't show loyalty to the party should not forget this.
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You folks are too harsh. She may be down and out politically and a dunce, but she is still hot. That's all I care about.
(http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2012/02/16/article-2102129-11C25B09000005DC-44_306x715.jpg)
You're GD right, @Frank Cannon !! 888high58888
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Nobody is wrapping themselves up in a flag; this is just historic fact.
So, yes, disprove what Cruz said or let it be.
Alleged Cruz supporters can part ways with Cruz on supporting Romney, Trump and saying he loves Palin; but please don't criticize others if they see things the same way as Cruz.
I don't recall that I disagreed with Cruz anywhere above. Perhaps you could pull quote it for me and refresh my memory. I'm criticizing someone for using Ted Cruz when it's convenient to virtue signal.
It's wrong and you should stop doing it.
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Let's get past insulting fellow TBR members and refocus on the topic at hand, shall we?
You must like short threads.
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You must like short threads.
Or, long meaningful ones.
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Or, long meaningful ones.
I find that long meaningful discussions happen between posters being honest about things. Wouldn't you agree?
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We can be civil and honest at the same time. I don't see why we can't discuss issues without making it personal. :shrug:
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@DiogenesLamp
I'll bet you're a barrel of laughs at parties.
What do you do for fun? Sit on an upright chair (I'll bet you don't do cushions) and play with an abacus while preening about your self-righteous asceticism?
I bet he kicks @ss on Space Invaders on his Atari 2600!
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@Idaho_Cowboy
Actually my position mirrors Ted Cruz's more, not being critical of her.
There's a lot of wisdom in that. Me, sometime I just call 'em like I see 'em.
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We can be civil and honest at the same time. I don't see why we can't discuss issues without making it personal. :shrug:
Because there is no fun in that........you silly kumquat.
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The moment it happened for me:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=syAb_7Qt1TE (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=syAb_7Qt1TE)
endorsing Trump was the end of most of it for me, but when she joined him in the gutter it was all over forever
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We can be civil and honest at the same time. I don't see why we can't discuss issues without making it personal. :shrug:
Well how exactly does one point out ones ongoing hypocrisy and virtue signaling without mentioning the person responsible? That'd be a hell of a trick. I suppose we could all just let it go and be one big happy family where nothing is actually honest in our exchanges so as not to upset or offend.
The last safe space here didn't work so hot. I see no reason to mainstream one as a larger social experiment.
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I bet he kicks @ss on Space Invaders on his Atari 2600!
Asteroids! I was like 12 and I figured out how to turn off the UFO's and flipped the score back to 0.
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We can be civil and honest at the same time. I don't see why we can't discuss issues without making it personal. :shrug:
Usually the first response to anything negative about Trump is a personal insult around here.
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Usually the first response to anything negative about Trump is a personal insult around here.
That's about the half of it.
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I find that long meaningful discussions happen between posters being honest about things. Wouldn't you agree?
Norm, that sounds a bit disingenuous. Getting personal instead of discussing the issues is not honest.
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"I don't give a crap if a writer from the Washington Post has achieved a quantum score of infinity in accurateness, it is foolish to bash or help others bash people identified with your own side, and it is foolish to help put money in the pockets of people who hate you and want to destroy you."
AHEM, gosh then how do you explain Trump, his devout and what they did to.............CRUZ.
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That's about the half of it.
Yep!
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Norm, that sounds a bit disingenuous. Getting personal instead of discussing the issues is not honest.
Is it? Honesty in a conversation does not involve holding up Ted Cruz as a holy talisman when one spent weeks on end posting memes and repeating MSM lies about the man and his family in order to get his opponent nominated.
We should absolutely discuss the issue, ALL issues, honestly. Not like the fiasco above.
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Because there is no fun in that........you silly kumquat.
Seriously. People take arguing with people on the internet way to personally.
(http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-VcrNn8AiWMc/Tq2CavD4Y1I/AAAAAAAABCs/iv07lVmamsE/s1600/Someone+is+wrong+on+internet.png)
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Seriously. People take arguing with people on the internet way to personally.
(http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-VcrNn8AiWMc/Tq2CavD4Y1I/AAAAAAAABCs/iv07lVmamsE/s1600/Someone+is+wrong+on+internet.png)
I'd agree but only a moran would write to instead of too.
Just kidding! :beer:
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That's why you can see stuff posted from so many different kinds of sources.
I give a lot of credit to @rangerrebew for that. Some of the stuff he posts is from sources that are kind of on the wacky side but it at least gives perspective.
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Usually the first response to anything negative about Trump is a personal insult around here.
This thread is about Palin, not Trump (at least, initially).
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I give a lot of credit to @rangerrebew for that. Some of the stuff he posts is from sources that are kind of on the wacky side but it at least gives perspective.
@jmyrlefuller , YEA, what he said.
If you want an Echo Chamber there are other alternatives, you're wasting your time AND ours, in other words get off your lazy a$$ and change the channel for all of our sakes.
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Trump and Palin, two examples of why lead paint was outlawed.
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I give a lot of credit to @rangerrebew for that. Some of the stuff he posts is from sources that are kind of on the wacky side but it at least gives perspective.
Debunking and researching fake or questionable news is also a good intellectual exercise. I'm always very proud of this site when I often see a bogus story posted that other sites like (cough cough) blindly accept without question, people here are quick to research and debunk.
The same goes for liberal leaning sites. Not only is it helpful to debunk or find out what parts are truth versus spin, but it always helps to get as many perspectives as possible, if anything, to know why an opponent is wanting to steer you one direction could make you ask and look into 'why' and what they are trying to not get you to look at.
The other thing is having your perspectives challenged is a good way to ensure you don't fall into the confirmation bias trap. Blindly believing only what confirms your initial beliefs and rejecting what doesn't. Often the truth lays somewhere in the middle.
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I'd agree but only a moran would write to instead of too.
Just kidding! :beer:
:)
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I bet he kicks @ss on Space Invaders on his Atari 2600!
@txradioguy
Video games are Communist.
/wink
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I'd agree but only a moran would write to instead of too.
Just kidding! :beer:
Hilarious.
BTW, it's "moron", you ignorant bastard.
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Hilarious.
BTW, it's "moron", you ignorant bastard.
LOL, y'all quit making fun of freepers.
(http://farm1.staticflickr.com/213/513709851_2095c64c27.jpg)
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@txradioguy
Video games are Communist.
/wink
(Chokes...) Ahem....
You will of course excuse me. I seem to have suddenly had an ocular aneurysm or something. It has impacted my vision adversely. Could you increase the font size you use, because I could swear that you just spoke utter blasphemy against Terrible and mighty Talos, Lydia, and most importantly, the holy relics she bares.
Now I realize that this must indeed be some medical episode on my part because I would never conceive that you could utter such a ...well... 'triggering' phrase as what you APPEAR to have uttered...
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I was a huge Sarah fan and voted for McCain b/c of her. I completely identified with her on multiple levels: from politics on down to being a mother of a child with special needs. Then the family issues crept up and I wasn't pleased. By the time her daughter had child #2 out of wedlock while stumping for abstinence, I realized Sarah just wanted money. Her white trash family has had their 15 seconds.
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Trump and Palin, two examples of why lead paint was outlawed.
Mod note: Stop the personal attacks, and wishing that upon a fellow Briefer is about as personal as it gets.
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I don't get it, one agrees that Romney should have been voted for, Trump should have been voted for, Loves Palin, all of those being Cruz positions and still the Cruz poser support crowd comes down on someone.
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Snipped
:thumbsup:
888sunglass ***cool cat***
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Probably true but I'd expect Cillizza to overstate things. Is this really unusual behavior for PACs?
I would have to say that is usual for 90% of the PACs..
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I was a huge Sarah fan and voted for McCain b/c of her. I completely identified with her on multiple levels: from politics on down to being a mother of a child with special needs. Then the family issues crept up and I wasn't pleased. By the time her daughter had child #2 out of wedlock while stumping for abstinence, I realized Sarah just wanted money. Her white trash family has had their 15 seconds.
It feels like they had their 15 years.
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I don't get it, one agrees that Romney should have been voted for, Trump should have been voted for, Loves Palin, all of those being Cruz positions and still the Cruz poser support crowd comes down on someone.
Because who Cruz voted for or supports has no impact on the actual issue that the person who was 'come down on' mocked the ever loving hell out of Cruz it benefited them to do so.
Which was wrong of you to do and you really should apologize to Ted and his family for having done it.
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Hilarious.
BTW, it's "moron", you ignorant bastard.
LOL. @AbaraXas knew what I meant.
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Let's see, one agrees with Ted Cruz to vote for Romney, Trump and hold Palin in esteem but still the Cruz-poser supporters get on one's case.
I think I understand.
"Who's on first, what's on second, I don't know is on 3rd."
(http://i1123.photobucket.com/albums/l545/Baseballdad2/Other/HU.png)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kTcRRaXV-fg
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(Chokes...) Ahem....
You will of course excuse me. I seem to have suddenly had an ocular aneurysm or something. It has impacted my vision adversely. Could you increase the font size you use, because I could swear that you just spoke utter blasphemy against Terrible and mighty Talos, Lydia, and most importantly, the holy relics she bares.
Now I realize that this must indeed be some medical episode on my part because I would never conceive that you could utter such a ...well... 'triggering' phrase as what you APPEAR to have uttered...
Um, "she bears" or she really does "bare"?
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(Chokes...) Ahem....
You will of course excuse me. I seem to have suddenly had an ocular aneurysm or something. It has impacted my vision adversely. Could you increase the font size you use, because I could swear that you just spoke utter blasphemy against Terrible and mighty Talos, Lydia, and most importantly, the holy relics she bares.
Now I realize that this must indeed be some medical episode on my part because I would never conceive that you could utter such a ...well... 'triggering' phrase as what you APPEAR to have uttered...
@Norm Lenhart
Lol, I figured that would get a rise out of you.
Just kidding, Norm. I don't want to trigger your delicate sensibilities. I was just trying to make the point that entertainment is evil. ^-^
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Um, "she bears" or she really does "bare"?
No, Bares...... depending what mods are installed for the game. ;) Although technically she bears them as well as a matter of course.
Talos didn't make no mistakes with that girl!
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@Norm Lenhart
Lol, I figured that would get a rise out of you.
Just kidding, Norm. I don't want to trigger your delicate sensibilities. I was just trying to make the point that entertainment is evil. ^-^
THEHOLYRELICSARENOTEVIL!!!!!!!!!!!!
Now I'm gonna have to go look just to be sure....Evil could have crept in somewhere and defiled them. Damn Thalmor...
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[quote author=CatherineofAragon link=topic=248117.msg1219808#msg1219808 https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2017/01/26/heres-definitive-proof-sarah-palin-didnt-care-about-much-in-politics-other-than-sarah-palin/?utm_term=.08e61082a4a7
Oh goody! People on our side sending the left wing Washington post more hits on their website so as to put more money in their pockets!
Also helping them to spread the meme that conservative politicians are greedy lying corrupt sacks of sh*t is also very useful to our movement.
This is how we WIN people! Keep up the good work!
The circular firing squad is a fine GOP tradition.
It would be interesting to see more articles on what greedy lying corrupt sacks of sh*t the Democrat politicians are.
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@txradioguy
Video games are Communist.
/wink
:silly:
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Speaking as one of her biggest defenders in the past, she lost my support when turning on conservatism and backstabbing Ted Cruz. I wasn't thrilled with her Romney approval and her continued backing of McCain was Strike two.
Word salad or not, the things she supported once were bedrock conservative ideals. Why she turned on them isn't an issue. Just the fact she turned on them. I regret the time and effort I wasted.
You expressed how I feel perfectly. She always spoke of her conservatives values and then she backed the least conservative horse in the race. At the time many thought she did it in return for a cabinet post. She got suckered but her support was irrelevant to Trump anyway. Another small example of what gives politicians a bad name.
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You expressed how I feel perfectly. She always spoke of her conservatives values and then she backed the least conservative horse in the race. At the time many thought she did it in return for a cabinet post. She got suckered but her support was irrelevant to Trump anyway. Another small example of what gives politicians a bad name.
In my opinion she turned on Ted Cruz for completely personal reasons.
If I recall correctly Bristol Palin went off about Ted Cruz's attack on her mother. From what I remember the comment was pretty benign and didn't even come from Ted Cruz. Somebody on the Cruz Campaign was asked about why Sarah Palin wasn't running and it was suggested that she had family issues to deal with.
I think the real reason was because Dakota Meyer endorsed Ted Cruz at the same time he was suing for custody or visitation of the baby he had with Bristol Palin. (It was a soap opera)
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You expressed how I feel perfectly. She always spoke of her conservatives values and then she backed the least conservative horse in the race. At the time many thought she did it in return for a cabinet post. She got suckered but her support was irrelevant to Trump anyway. Another small example of what gives politicians a bad name.
@Abe, welcome!
I can still picture the look on Trump's face as he stood behind Palin, listening to her cringe-worthy endorsement speech. You could practically see the wheels turning as he realized the mistake he had made.
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Could be:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3451791/Medal-Honor-recipient-Bristol-Palin-s-ex-fiance-Dakota-Meyer-endorses-Ted-Cruz-president.html
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@Abe, welcome!
I can still picture the look on Trump's face as he stood behind Palin, listening to her cringe-worthy endorsement speech. You could practically see the wheels turning as he realized the mistake he had made.
Precisely what I thought and so did many others. The endorsement fell flat. Most of her speeches are cringe-worthy. She was a political novelty that wore off fast. Thanks for the welcome.
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No, Bares...... depending what mods are installed for the game. ;) Although technically she bears them as well as a matter of course.
Talos didn't make no mistakes with that girl!
She's sworn to carry bear your burdens.
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She's sworn to carry bear your burdens.
Indeed! For I have burdens. They are rather burdensome.
This goes to show the infinite wisdom of Jarl Balgruf the Greater. There on his throne in Dragonsreach, Balgruf looked upon my de-prisoned form and realized I was possessed of a singular destiny. For where common Nords would wile away the days in the idyllic bliss of farming weeds in an arctic climate, I was born to cart vast quantities of iron daggers, firewood, various plants, animal carcases, unstylish helmets never worn by the Vikings the game took inspiration from and quarryd quatities of dragon bones from town to town.
Clearly the best way to aid me in my noble destiny was to give me a 5 foot, 100 pound female with a sarcasm issues.
Ah the pixelated love of my life - Lydia. Now there is a woman I can count on. So great is her love of all things, that rather than witnessing the death of whatever thing happens to be attaching me, she invariably takes the arrow...not to the knee, but to the back of the head, as her svelt Nordic grace flashes across MY arrow's flight path.
So broad is her concern for her fellow Nords, she will stand unmoving in doorways, like Leionidas in Thermophile, rather than letting out hordes of rampaging Draguger from their stony tombs. Unfortunately, trapping me in said tomb, alone, with them.
Truly, Talos has smiled upon me.
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Clearly the best way to aid me in my noble destiny was to give me a 5 foot, 100 pound female with a sarcasm issues.
@Norm Lenhart
What a great description of your companion!
But don't forget the donning of armor and wielding of weapons she's less competent with.
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@Norm Lenhart
What a great description of your companion!
But don't forget the donning of armor and wielding of weapons she's less competent with.
Oh trust me. I ensured that my dear blessing from Talos is wrapped only in the finest armor uniquely suited to the bitter cold of the Tamriellian north! No way do I want my widdle arrow magnet to get a chill!
Besides, she positively glows with Dawnbreaker and Spellbreaker to defend herself from TeH DarKZ ForceZ.
(http://i931.photobucket.com/albums/ad151/NormLenhart/f22dc3c8-19df-497c-a033-72f11f2c5d71.jpg) (http://s931.photobucket.com/user/NormLenhart/media/f22dc3c8-19df-497c-a033-72f11f2c5d71.jpg.html)
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(http://i931.photobucket.com/albums/ad151/NormLenhart/f22dc3c8-19df-497c-a033-72f11f2c5d71.jpg) (http://s931.photobucket.com/user/NormLenhart/media/f22dc3c8-19df-497c-a033-72f11f2c5d71.jpg.html)
Oh my!!! :beer:
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Oh my!!! :beer:
I can't help it. I'm pixelsexual...I like hot Skyrim chicks! ;)
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I can't help it. I'm pixelsexual...I like hot Skyrim chicks! ;)
I always chuckle at the female versions of "armor" in those games. There's more skin not covered than is. I blame Lucy Lawless. Or maybe it's just the horny teenage boy in the all game designers.
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Or maybe it's just the horny teenage boy in the all game designers.
That.
It's actually a running joke with skyrim modding. Someone actually did a total game conversion that pretty much turned the game into a South Pacific island so the women wouldn't freeze to death ;) Some other guy made a nude world mod so that everyone is naked and no armor at all exists anywhere. Which is actually hilarious to play.
It got to the point that the pendulum swung completely the other way and now the new hotness is 'Lore Friendly" where everything has to be true to the game as it would be in reality. No nude mods, no combat stripper armor, all sorts of highly detailed furs, iron and steel armor.
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Oh trust me. I ensured that my dear blessing from Talos is wrapped only in the finest armor uniquely suited to the bitter cold of the Tamriellian north! No way do I want my widdle arrow magnet to get a chill!
Besides, she positively glows with Dawnbreaker and Spellbreaker to defend herself from TeH DarKZ ForceZ.
(http://i931.photobucket.com/albums/ad151/NormLenhart/f22dc3c8-19df-497c-a033-72f11f2c5d71.jpg) (http://s931.photobucket.com/user/NormLenhart/media/f22dc3c8-19df-497c-a033-72f11f2c5d71.jpg.html)
What the hell type of bad acid trip did this thread turn into?
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What the hell type of bad acid trip did this thread turn into?
Just go with it mannnn...The colots.....
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What the hell type of bad acid trip did this thread turn into?
She's a heartbreaker, dream maker, love taker, oh my...
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What the hell type of bad acid trip did this thread turn into?
The horny teenage boy in me enjoys imagining Sarah Palin in Skyrim "armor". Does that bring the thread back on topic?
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The horny teenage boy in me enjoys imagining Sarah Palin in Skyrim "armor". Does that bring the thread back on topic?
You betcha. :silly:
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The horny teenage boy in me enjoys imagining Sarah Palin in Skyrim "armor". Does that bring the thread back on topic?
No, but this might:
(http://frankfrazetta.org/ff_silver_warrior.jpg)
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The horny teenage boy in me enjoys imagining Sarah Palin in Skyrim "armor". Does that bring the thread back on topic?
I had to look up what Skyrim is. I am turning in my hip card immediately.
(http://cdn-www.cracked.com/articleimages/ob/palincomic.jpg)
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There must be a point where having extremely, almost cartoonishly large breasts actually hinders your fighting ability, right?
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There must be a point where having extremely, almost cartoonishly large breasts actually hinders your fighting ability, right?
Probably, especially if the opponent is either female or ghey.
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@Norm Lenhart
Could you increase the font size you use, because I could swear that you just spoke utter blasphemy against Terrible and mighty Talos, Lydia, and most importantly, the holy relics she bares.
Trump is Ulfric Stormcloak. I suppose Hillary would be Jarl Elisif, eh? The appeasing wife of the prior ruler of Skyrim....
For those who have no idea what this is about, Skyrim is a game at which players must eventually make a choice between backing the Empire, which tolerates the globalistic (and oppressive) High Elven hegemony, which suppresses the native religion, or the rebellious Stormcloaks, who want to preserve the northern land of Skyrim for its own people, and end the High Elven domination. Players usually split pretty evenly because the Stormcloak leader is something of a bigot even though his cause is just.
The parallels are actually pretty remarkable.
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Oh trust me. I ensured that my dear blessing from Talos is wrapped only in the finest armor uniquely suited to the bitter cold of the Tamriellian north! No way do I want my widdle arrow magnet to get a chill!
Besides, she positively glows with Dawnbreaker and Spellbreaker to defend herself from TeH DarKZ ForceZ.
Her plastic surgeon was GREAT!
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She's a heartbreaker, dream maker, love taker, oh my...
Don't mess around with me!
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There must be a point where having extremely, almost cartoonishly large breasts actually hinders your fighting ability, right?
Who cares?
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Her plastic surgeon was GREAT!
She's not bad. She was just drawn that way!
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@Norm Lenhart
Trump is Ulfric Stormcloak. I suppose Hillary would be Jarl Elisif, eh? The appeasing wife of the prior ruler of Skyrim....
For those who have no idea what this is about, Skyrim is a game at which players must eventually make a choice between backing the Empire, which tolerates the globalistic (and oppressive) High Elven hegemony, which suppresses the native religion, or the rebellious Stormcloaks, who want to preserve the northern land of Skyrim for its own people, and end the High Elven domination. Players usually split pretty evenly because the Stormcloak leader is something of a bigot even though his cause is just.
The parallels are actually pretty remarkable.
As an interesting side note, the absolute Holy Wars that I have seen on game forums over the years about Ulfric and Empire vs. Stormcloak provide a great window into how the younger set views human rights/geopolitics. And it is NOT good.
Because they don't have to fear using real world analogs like black/muslim/gay/whatever, they go on rather freely wuith their opinions. Those opinions reveal the depth of indoctrination that the liberal system has warped them. It is all feelings based with absolutely no regard for consequense of action. None of it is thought through in the slightest. And they come down on the side of the Empire every time, casting Ulfric literally as Hitler and praising the Empire/Thalmor for attempting to wipe out Talos worship to bring 'Unity' to the continent.
Secondary side note for non players - Talos bears a striking parallel to Jesus Christ in that he was human, a leader of men and ascended to the divine.
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There must be a point where having extremely, almost cartoonishly large breasts actually hinders your fighting ability, right?
I'm guessing you are female.
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I'm guessing you are female.
****slapping
Post op. :silly: :silly:
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Because they don't have to fear using real world analogs like black/muslim/gay/whatever, they go on rather freely wuith their opinions. Those opinions reveal the depth of indoctrination that the liberal system has warped them. It is all feelings based with absolutely no regard for consequense of action. None of it is thought through in the slightest. And they come down on the side of the Empire every time, casting Ulfric literally as Hitler and praising the Empire/Thalmor for attempting to wipe out Talos worship to bring 'Unity' to the continent.
It's almost funny if it wouldn't be so sad -- I've had similar discussions with some others. They'll say "Ulfric says 'Skyrim for the Nords'", so he's a racist. And I point out that he doesn't actually kick out other people -- he just doesn't trust them. And in contrast, the Thalmor actually kidnap and drag off to torture anyone who varies from their religious orthodoxy. But to those people, slightly intolerant words are worse than horrible action. And part of that is also because they don't think religious freedom is important, so if a few dissenters get dragged off and never seen again, it's no great loss.
Funny how well the politics of that game mirror what we're living right now.
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As an interesting side note, the absolute Holy Wars that I have seen on game forums over the years about Ulfric and Empire vs. Stormcloak provide a great window into how the younger set views human rights/geopolitics. And it is NOT good.
Be grateful you play Skyrim (and Fallout 4, I think?). The Starbound forums are furry central.
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****slapping
Post op. :silly: :silly:
Brave of you to come out, Wingnut, thanks for letting us know.
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And they come down on the side of the Empire every time, casting Ulfric literally as Hitler and praising the Empire/Thalmor for attempting to wipe out Talos worship to bring 'Unity' to the continent.
@Norm Lenhart
Wow.
I don't go onto any of the Skyrim fora, so I hadn't realized that.
I also haven't played Skyrim enough to know...is it really that clear-cut that Ulfric is the good guy?
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Brave of you to come out, Wingnut, thanks for letting us know.
I figured I'd be like that transsexual guy whose only ambition is to eat, drink, and be Mary.
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Secondary side note for non players - Talos bears a striking parallel to Jesus Christ in that he was human, a leader of men and ascended to the divine.
Jesus was divine before birth, from start to now (he's not truly dead but risen)
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It's almost funny if it wouldn't be so sad -- I've had similar discussions with some others. They'll say "Ulfric says 'Skyrim for the Nords'", so he's a racist. And I point out that he doesn't actually kick out other people -- he just doesn't trust them. And in contrast, the Thalmor actually kidnap and drag off to torture anyone who varies from their religious orthodoxy. But to those people, slightly intolerant words are worse than horrible action. And part of that is also because they don't think religious freedom is important, so if a few dissenters get dragged off and never seen again, it's no great loss.
Funny how well the politics of that game mirror what we're living right now.
They do indeed.
What's really interesting to me following the 'racist rants' is when you point out that Ulfric actually took the Dark Elves in after the Red Mountain blew up and wrecked a ton of their homeland, THEN gave them a big chunk of his city to live and work in. They always default to "SEGRIGATION!!!" although the Dark elves walk and do business throughout the city openly and freely. The ONLY open racism is a couple drunks that harass one woman.
On the other hand, the Thalmor and Empire are executing heretics, have patrols attacking across the continent and cleared every temple of anything to do with Talos. So much for the seperation of church and state.
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@Norm Lenhart
Wow.
I don't go onto any of the Skyrim fora, so I hadn't realized that.
I also haven't played Skyrim enough to know...is it really that clear-cut that Ulfric is the good guy?
He's not actually 'good' He's the classic lesser evil in a realm of bad.
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There must be a point where having extremely, almost cartoonishly large breasts actually hinders your fighting ability, right?
IIRC, Macho Women with Guns had a trait "Topheavy" that took that into account. But it had benefits.
(http://www.tomeoftreasures.com/forum/_nonTSR/machowomenwithguns.JPG)
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Be grateful you play Skyrim (and Fallout 4, I think?). The Starbound forums are furry central.
All the Bethesda games. F4 and Sky mostly. Pretty much the only ones I can deal with. Lot of garbage out there in gameland lately.
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Sadly, back on TOPIC.
Rumors of my Demise are greatly over exaggerated.
Sean Spicer questioned on PM’s visit, rumours Sarah Palin will be named Canadian ambassador
White House Press Secretary Sean Spicer said the White House will shortly announce details of Prime Minister Justin Trudeau’s state visit, and wouldn’t deny Sarah Palin is being considered for ambassador to Canada.
http://globalnews.ca/video/3236232/sean-spicer-questioned-on-pms-visit-naming-sarah-palin-as-canadian-ambassador (http://globalnews.ca/video/3236232/sean-spicer-questioned-on-pms-visit-naming-sarah-palin-as-canadian-ambassador)
*pay no attention to the article there about : Young women’s pubic hair grooming practices ‘concerning’ to doctors
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All the Bethesda games. F4 and Sky mostly. Pretty much the only ones I can deal with. Lot of garbage out there in gameland lately.
Does F4 get modded a lot like Skyrim?
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IIRC, Macho Women with Guns had a trait "Topheavy" that took that into account. But it had benefits.
(http://www.tomeoftreasures.com/forum/_nonTSR/machowomenwithguns.JPG)
Basic physics. Large boobs are like OEM armor. And sitting in front of the heart means an assed layer of protection i a critical area.
Same reason for platform heels on the battlefeild. All the shrapnel could cripple them if stepped on. The added height is a safety measure...
True story!
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I figured I'd be like that transsexual guy whose only ambition is to eat, drink, and be Mary.
:laugh: :nono:
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And part of that is also because they don't think religious freedom is important, so if a few dissenters get dragged off and never seen again, it's no great loss.
If the Thalmor dragged off those who were atheists, rather than Talos worshippers, then the support would be entirely reversed.
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Does F4 get modded a lot like Skyrim?
Not yet as it's still only a year old. But there are a LOT of great mods now. Sky is up to about 50,000 mods on the Nexus. F4 is under 20k IIRC
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Same reason for platform heels on the battlefeild. All the shrapnel could cripple them if stepped on. The added height is a safety measure...
Sounds like you've played Macho Women with Guns...there's a skill for running in high heels!
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Sounds like you've played Macho Women with Guns...there's a skill for running in high heels!
Nope, but there's an entire 'sub genre' so to speak of Skyrim modding that we jokingly call 'combat strippers'. Which although lacking an actual stat perk, pretty much sounds along those lines ;)
It's hilarious to watch a 100 pound chick in heels hip toss a 1000 pound troll and drive a sword through it's skull.
Realism! ;) And lore friendly!!! (OK not so lore friendly)
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She's letting go like Kirstie Alley.
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(https://2.bp.blogspot.com/-vhNcBjhakiw/WJyRKBzUIYI/AAAAAAAAIKY/JhZDtFia3Lg-kOdVtzyXtGSlijhlp1bXwCLcB/s400/Sarah%2BPalin%2Bat%2Bher%2Bbest.jpg)
Please tell me that's not Sarah?
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Please tell me that's not Sarah?
Time comes for us all.
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(https://2.bp.blogspot.com/-vhNcBjhakiw/WJyRKBzUIYI/AAAAAAAAIKY/JhZDtFia3Lg-kOdVtzyXtGSlijhlp1bXwCLcB/s400/Sarah%2BPalin%2Bat%2Bher%2Bbest.jpg)
Give me a break. She obviously just rolled out of bed without make up. Chicks look like shit without make up....
(http://images.guff.com/gallery/image/tyra-banks-144661)
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(https://2.bp.blogspot.com/-vhNcBjhakiw/WJyRKBzUIYI/AAAAAAAAIKY/JhZDtFia3Lg-kOdVtzyXtGSlijhlp1bXwCLcB/s400/Sarah%2BPalin%2Bat%2Bher%2Bbest.jpg)
Please tell me that's not her. Please?
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To me, it looks like that could be something that most human beings have to deal with from time to time; weight gain. Here is another similar type of photo.
(https://d.ibtimes.co.uk/en/full/1514352/sarah-palin.jpg)
My best friend use to say if he put on weight, he'd get a double chin.
I heard Rachel Ray went that way a bit too; but that was just a gossip magazine.
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I also haven't played Skyrim enough to know...is it really that clear-cut that Ulfric is the good guy?
I think it is intended to be a difficult decision -- shades of gray. One aspect of that is that Ulfric isn't fighting directly against the Elves. He's really fighting against the Empire, of which Skyrim was previously a part, because the Empire's position is "hey, we fought the elves and lost, and this imperfect peace is the best we can do for now." In other words, he's rebelling against the Empire because it tolerates the Thalmor domination.
I'm with Ulfric on that too, though. There are some others who have actually fought successfully against the Elven Thalmor, so what is needed is more guts and less tolerance. Fun game, and the graphics in the north are really quite beautiful.
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Fun game, and the graphics in the north are really quite beautiful.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=URcP93kQME0
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Please tell me that's not her. Please?
You tell me? @DCPatriot
http://theimmoralminority.blogspot.com/2017/02/so-are-rumors-about-sarah-palin.html (http://theimmoralminority.blogspot.com/2017/02/so-are-rumors-about-sarah-palin.html)
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You tell me? @DCPatriot
http://theimmoralminority.blogspot.com/2017/02/so-are-rumors-about-sarah-palin.html (http://theimmoralminority.blogspot.com/2017/02/so-are-rumors-about-sarah-palin.html)
I don't know what people expect out of her, she's in her 50s
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(http://images.f169bbs.com/content/2014-11/gotta-admit-sarah-palin-still-5676.jpg)
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Just a year ago in Iowa:
(http://cdn.inquisitr.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/01/AP-sarah-palin-sweater-trump-endorsement.jpg)
She probably spent a lot of time in front of the tube watching all of the campaigning, conventions, etc. last year.
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I don't know what people expect out of her, she's in her 50s
Indeed. And since she is not on TV all the time, she probably isn't in a gym 6 hours a day. I think because of TV, a lot of folks forget just what it takes to look 30 at 50ish. It ain't all genetics.
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I don't know what people expect out of her, she's in her 50s
It's all in the genes. My Grandma looked better than that when she was in her 70's. I wonder if she has a medical issue. Hope not, that kind of stuff sucks no matter who you are.
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As vitally important as this "discussion" is @mystery-ak --- does it still belong in the Politics Forum?
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As vitally important as this "discussion" is @mystery-ak --- does it still belong in the Politics Forum?
Maybe it should move to Quix's area where it can die quiet death!
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As vitally important as this "discussion" is @mystery-ak --- does it still belong in the Politics Forum?
What's wrong with it?
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=URcP93kQME0
Just static scenes, or playable at that res?
I wish I didn't get simulator sickness.
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Just static scenes, or playable at that res?
I wish I didn't get simulator sickness.
Playable if you have enough computer to power it. That would take at minimum, a GTX 1070, a 4790K or 6700K CPU and 16 gigs of fast ram fed by an SSD to play enjoyably. My own game is roughly that level of detail. Better in some areas, worse in others and it maxes out a Titan XP/7700K/16 gig 4266mhz RAID 0 SSD system.
It's an awesome experience. But it's an expensive one at the 'halo' level. However, when you consider several thousand hours of entertainment over 6 years, the cost is really no big thing compared to any other entertainment. For me, this is my entertainment so thats where the $$$ goes.
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I'm guessing you are female.
Either that, or standing there stupefied and gawking...
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Either that, or standing there stupefied and gawking...
Lydia has that effect on people. I assume it's because of her inherent modesty. It catches people off guard, I find.
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Indeed. And since she is not on TV all the time, she probably isn't in a gym 6 hours a day. I think because of TV, a lot of folks forget just what it takes to look 30 at 50ish. It ain't all genetics.
@Norm Lenhart
You're right. For quite a while now, it's been obvious she's had work done...fillers, etc.
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It's all in the genes. My Grandma looked better than that when she was in her 70's. I wonder if she has a medical issue. Hope not, that kind of stuff sucks no matter who you are.
@Idaho_Cowboy
I'll say this...I always hated tanning. Never did it. And it's paid off.
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@Idaho_Cowboy
I'll say this...I always hated tanning. Never did it. And it's paid off.
Come to AZ. Motherland of the good looking 40 year old women...who are really only 25. The sun will fix that 'good skin' thing for you.
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@Idaho_Cowboy
I'll say this...I always hated tanning. Never did it. And it's paid off.
It can be brutal to your skin.
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@Norm Lenhart
You're right. For quite a while now, it's been obvious she's had work done...fillers, etc.
It's impressive what they can do with spackle and Bondo.
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Come to AZ. Motherland of the good looking 40 year old women...who are really only 25. The sun will fix that 'good skin' thing for you.
Lol, noooo, I don't want to mess things up.
True story. About ten years ago I was heading into a store that was next door to a tanning salon. The salon was having some kind of promotion, they had music going and employees outside trying to get business. So this bleached blonde says to me, "Honey, would you like a little color?" I looked at her burnt-cookie self and said "I don't tan. I don't want to look like leather."
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It's impressive what they can do with spackle and Bondo.
@Cyber Liberty
Lol. The thing is, women never look better afterward. They just look like women who've had something done.
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It can be brutal to your skin.
It can be aging, yes...among other things. Both my husband and his sister have had skin cancers removed, and now they have to go for regular derm exams, scalp to toe.
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It can be aging, yes...among other things. Both my husband and his sister have had skin cancers removed, and now they have to go for regular derm exams, scalp to toe.
I had a basal cell carcinoma cut out of me...but oddly enough, that part of me has been covered by fur six months out of the year (or more) for decades. Then it dawned on me...the cell phone I used for an hour or more a day was held on that side, and the spot was pretty much dead center of where the phone would be. Now I use the speakerphone a lot...
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I had a basal cell carcinoma cut out of me...but oddly enough, that part of me has been covered by fur six months out of the year (or more) for decades. Then it dawned on me...the cell phone I used for an hour or more a day was held on that side, and the spot was pretty much dead center of where the phone would be. Now I use the speakerphone a lot...
@Smokin Joe
Wow...that's something to think about.
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Okay..who's the wise guy putting this thread in the computer section....moving it to Gen Discussion