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Title: DeSantis warns Floridians not to "monkey this up" by electing Gillum
Post by: TomSea on August 29, 2018, 03:16:15 pm
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DeSantis warns Floridians not to "monkey this up" by electing Gillum
Jeffrey Schweers, Tallahassee Democrat Published 10:23 a.m. ET Aug. 29, 2018

Ron DeSantis, the Republican nominee for Florida Governor told Fox News this morning that Florida shouldn't "monkey this up" by electing Democratic nominee Andrew Gillum.

Read more at: https://www.tallahassee.com/story/news/2018/08/29/desantis-accused-making-racist-slur-gillum/1131912002/ (https://www.tallahassee.com/story/news/2018/08/29/desantis-accused-making-racist-slur-gillum/1131912002/)

Very short article, Drudge gave this as a red sub headline.  I don't care for how this comes out, intentional or not, I can't judge.

Title: Re: DeSantis warns Floridians not to "monkey this up" by electing Gillum
Post by: dfwgator on August 29, 2018, 03:18:13 pm
Not good.  One day...he already has a frickin' "Macaca Moment".
Title: Re: DeSantis warns Floridians not to "monkey this up" by electing Gillum
Post by: Frank Cannon on August 29, 2018, 03:19:11 pm
LOL. What a load of shit.
Title: Re: DeSantis warns Floridians not to "monkey this up" by electing Gillum
Post by: mystery-ak on August 29, 2018, 03:24:22 pm
Damn..choose your words more carefully..the rats will run with this non-stop...sheeeeesh!
Title: Re: DeSantis warns Floridians not to "monkey this up" by electing Gillum
Post by: dfwgator on August 29, 2018, 03:27:35 pm
Damn..choose your words more carefully..the rats will run with this non-stop...sheeeeesh!

Well that's going to take McCain off of the news.
Title: Re: DeSantis warns Floridians not to "monkey this up" by electing Gillum
Post by: Frank Cannon on August 29, 2018, 03:29:24 pm
Damn..choose your words more carefully..the rats will run with this non-stop...sheeeeesh!

Yeah and most voters are going to laugh at this overreach.
Title: Re: DeSantis warns Floridians not to "monkey this up" by electing Gillum
Post by: mystery-ak on August 29, 2018, 03:32:11 pm
Yeah and most voters are going to laugh at this overreach.

Yeah most will..DeSantis is a seasoned politician..this is a rookie mistake. I just hope he doesn't go on an apology tour to all the networks...that just makes it worse.
Title: Re: DeSantis warns Floridians not to "monkey this up" by electing Gillum
Post by: ABX on August 29, 2018, 03:33:19 pm
Never give your opponent ammunition.
Title: Re: DeSantis warns Floridians not to "monkey this up" by electing Gillum
Post by: endicom on August 29, 2018, 03:34:34 pm
Damn..choose your words more carefully..the rats will run with this non-stop...sheeeeesh!


Run and run and run. Maybe his own minority credentials will help.

Title: Re: DeSantis warns Floridians not to "monkey this up" by electing Gillum
Post by: TomSea on August 29, 2018, 03:35:44 pm
DeSantis seems to be a man of integrity. It's hard to see him having intentional malicious aims here. Maybe he will just move on.
Title: Re: DeSantis warns Floridians not to "monkey this up" by electing Gillum
Post by: dfwgator on August 29, 2018, 03:35:47 pm
Yeah most will..DeSantis is a seasoned politician..this is a rookie mistake. I just hope he doesn't go on an apology tour to all the networks...that just makes it worse.

Exactly, now he just needs to stand by it and not apologize, and just say, "You know I didn't mean anything by that other than using a well-known expression that has absolutely no racial connotations".  None of this lame, "I'm sorry if anyone was offended" crap.
Title: Re: DeSantis warns Floridians not to "monkey this up" by electing Gillum
Post by: Frank Cannon on August 29, 2018, 03:39:30 pm
Yeah most will..DeSantis is a seasoned politician..this is a rookie mistake. I just hope he doesn't go on an apology tour to all the networks...that just makes it worse.

A rookie mistake? Are we now supposed to use the "M" word when talking about a certain zoo animal?

This is absurd.
Title: Re: DeSantis warns Floridians not to "monkey this up" by electing Gillum
Post by: mystery-ak on August 29, 2018, 03:39:40 pm
......and here we go

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Florida Democratic Party Chairwoman Terrie Rizzo slammed DeSantis after the interview.

"It's disgusting that Ron DeSantis is launching his general election campaign with racist dog whistles," Rizzo said in a statement.

Geoff Burgan, Gillum's campaign spokesman, told the Tallahassee Democrat that his campaign was letting Rizzo respond to DeSantis's comments.

"DeSantis's comments speak for themselves," he said.

The Florida Republican's remarks came shortly after Gillum pulled off a stunning win in Florida's Democratic gubernatorial primary on Tuesday night.
http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/404151-desantis-florida-voters-shouldnt-monkey-this-up-by-voting-for (http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/404151-desantis-florida-voters-shouldnt-monkey-this-up-by-voting-for)
Title: Re: DeSantis warns Floridians not to "monkey this up" by electing Gillum
Post by: mystery-ak on August 29, 2018, 03:40:06 pm
Fox reporting it now... 9999hair out0000
Title: Re: DeSantis warns Floridians not to "monkey this up" by electing Gillum
Post by: mystery-ak on August 29, 2018, 03:41:46 pm
A rookie mistake? Are we now supposed to use the "M" word when talking about a certain zoo animal?

This is absurd.

It maybe absurd but you know good and well stoopid mistakes like this have cost candidates an election..
Title: Re: DeSantis warns Floridians not to "monkey this up" by electing Gillum
Post by: Frank Cannon on August 29, 2018, 03:43:24 pm
It maybe absurd but you know good and well stoopid mistakes like this have cost candidates an election..

LOL. Stupid mistakes, not using regular words cost people elections. This will be a dead issue by the end of the week, if it even gets that far.
Title: Re: DeSantis warns Floridians not to "monkey this up" by electing Gillum
Post by: mystery-ak on August 29, 2018, 03:45:01 pm
LOL. Stupid mistakes, not using regular words cost people elections. This will be a dead issue by the end of the week, if it even gets that far.

Hope your right..maybe the McCain funeral will knock it off the front pages.
Title: Re: DeSantis warns Floridians not to "monkey this up" by electing Gillum
Post by: skeeter on August 29, 2018, 03:46:20 pm
Whats really pathetic is this is the kind of mickey mouse sh*t that offers the left their best chance at regaining power.

Heaven forbid they try to win on issues.
Title: Re: DeSantis warns Floridians not to "monkey this up" by electing Gillum
Post by: TomSea on August 29, 2018, 03:47:15 pm
I think there was some deal with Santorum back in 2012 and his campaign would not dignify the questions with an answer. Maybe that would be the correct tact on this.  "We aren't even going to dignify that with an answer, it's absurd."

Rick's case may have been less serious, it was where he gave a speech and they pondered if was going to say something but he caught himself before he said it. I like Santorum, so I don't want to get too much into what was probably ridiculous to bring up in the first place.
Title: Re: DeSantis warns Floridians not to "monkey this up" by electing Gillum
Post by: Wingnut on August 29, 2018, 04:22:01 pm
To the liberal press everything is an "African American" in the woodpile.   
Title: Re: DeSantis warns Floridians not to "monkey this up" by electing Gillum
Post by: truth_seeker on August 29, 2018, 04:24:24 pm
It is a figure of speech: as in "Don't throw a monkey wrench in the works."

Instead of backing down, he should use it to show how the dems and their media partners, try to make a false accusation.

What is "disantis?" Italian, Cuban, Spanish, Portugese?" What?
Title: Re: DeSantis warns Floridians not to "monkey this up" by electing Gillum
Post by: cato potatoe on August 29, 2018, 04:29:49 pm
Well of course the press would think "black people" anytime a monkey is brought into the discussion.
Title: Re: DeSantis warns Floridians not to "monkey this up" by electing Gillum
Post by: mystery-ak on August 29, 2018, 04:59:34 pm
Gillum consultant: DeSantis 'monkey this up' comment 'blatantly racist'
http://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/404181-gillum-consultant-desantis-monkey-this-up-comment-blatantly-racist (http://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/404181-gillum-consultant-desantis-monkey-this-up-comment-blatantly-racist)
Title: Re: DeSantis warns Floridians not to "monkey this up" by electing Gillum
Post by: mystery-ak on August 29, 2018, 05:19:09 pm
http://thehill.com/homenews/media/404179-fox-news-denounces-desantiss-monkey-remark-on-dem-rival (http://thehill.com/homenews/media/404179-fox-news-denounces-desantiss-monkey-remark-on-dem-rival)

Fox News denounces DeSantis's 'monkey' remark on Dem rival
By Aris Folley - 08/29/18 12:55 PM EDT

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Fox News host Sandra Smith said Wednesday that the network did not condone Rep. Ron DeSantis's (R) language when he warned voters not to "monkey this up" by voting for his Democratic gubernatorial opponent Andrew Gillum.

DeSantis's remark about Gillum, who would be Florida's first black governor if elected, prompted quick backlash, with the state Democratic Party chair saying he was "launching his general election campaign with racist dog whistles."

“A little while ago, we had Ron DeSantis, the Republican nominee for governor in Florida on for an interview to discuss the Florida election,” Smith said on Fox News’ “America’s Newsroom” before reading a statement from DeSantis's campaign clarifying his earlier remarks.

"We do not condone this language and wanted to make our viewers aware that he has since clarified his statement," she added.

more at above link
Title: Re: DeSantis warns Floridians not to "monkey this up" by electing Gillum
Post by: Wingnut on August 29, 2018, 05:24:00 pm
No one gives a shit.  This is just a big todo about nothing.   Most of Fl Is going to vote for De Soto.  The fluffer from Gainsville is a nothing
Title: Re: DeSantis warns Floridians not to "monkey this up" by electing Gillum
Post by: truth_seeker on August 29, 2018, 05:45:37 pm
Next the Usual Suspects appear on the Hub, telling us the GOP is racist, Nazi-like-, Hiitlerian. They will have already grabbed their dem talking points, from the media.

The notion of standing firm, not begging for forgiveness, not wilting, is alien to them.


Title: Re: DeSantis warns Floridians not to "monkey this up" by electing Gillum
Post by: mystery-ak on August 29, 2018, 05:55:47 pm
Next the Usual Suspects appear on the Hub, telling us the GOP is racist, Nazi-like-, Hiitlerian. They will have already grabbed their dem talking points, from the media.

The notion of standing firm, not begging for forgiveness, not wilting, is alien to them.

DeSantis will be on Shepard Smith's show at 2central..
Title: Re: DeSantis warns Floridians not to "monkey this up" by electing Gillum
Post by: Wingnut on August 29, 2018, 06:04:38 pm
DeSantis will be on Shepard Smith's show at 2central..

Ah Jeez.  Not Shemp.  Someone call his office and tell him to cancel.
Title: Re: DeSantis warns Floridians not to "monkey this up" by electing Gillum
Post by: mystery-ak on August 29, 2018, 07:19:41 pm
MSNBC guest says DeSantis should drop out: 'Might as well have just said the N-word'
http://thehill.com/homenews/media/404217-msnbc-guest-calls-on-desantis-to-drop-out-might-as-well-have-just-said-the-n (http://thehill.com/homenews/media/404217-msnbc-guest-calls-on-desantis-to-drop-out-might-as-well-have-just-said-the-n)
Title: Re: DeSantis warns Floridians not to "monkey this up" by electing Gillum
Post by: catfish1957 on August 29, 2018, 07:27:40 pm
A rookie mistake? Are we now supposed to use the "M" word when talking about a certain zoo animal?

This is absurd.

Just a matter of time before Hoyle Playing Cards will be forced to rename one of the suits in the deck.
Title: Re: DeSantis warns Floridians not to "monkey this up" by electing Gillum
Post by: cato potatoe on August 29, 2018, 08:13:15 pm
I'm starting to agree with Trump: the media should not be shielded from lawsuits.  These "news" organizations have fabricated a racial slur and placed it in headlines.  Their actions are entirely malicious and defamatory.
Title: Re: DeSantis warns Floridians not to "monkey this up" by electing Gillum
Post by: DCPatriot on August 29, 2018, 08:21:15 pm
SHEP:  Is there anything you want to say about the reference to "monkeying" around with Gillum?

DeSANTIS: Please show me your video of the event where I say that?   Oh?   You don't have one??   Well I've got THIS one.  The one your production room won't air.  Eff you.   I will see you in court.
Title: Re: DeSantis warns Floridians not to "monkey this up" by electing Gillum
Post by: Bigun on August 29, 2018, 09:03:56 pm
SHEP:  Is there anything you want to say about the reference to "monkeying" around with Gillum?

DeSANTIS: Please show me your video of the event where I say that?   Oh?   You don't have one??   Well I've got THIS one.  The one your production room won't air.  Eff you.   I will see you in court.

I can't stomach watching Shepard Smith.  Did DeSantis really say that to Shep?
Title: Re: DeSantis warns Floridians not to "monkey this up" by electing Gillum
Post by: mystery-ak on August 29, 2018, 09:13:29 pm
Gillum ties DeSantis 'monkey' comment to Trump rhetoric
http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/404228-gillum-ties-desantis-monkey-comment-to-trumps-rhetoric (http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/404228-gillum-ties-desantis-monkey-comment-to-trumps-rhetoric)


Gillum: Trump, DeSantis have done everything they can to undermine FBI
http://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/404237-gillum-trump-desantis-have-done-everything-they-can-to-undermine-fbi (http://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/404237-gillum-trump-desantis-have-done-everything-they-can-to-undermine-fbi)
Title: Re: DeSantis warns Floridians not to "monkey this up" by electing Gillum
Post by: truth_seeker on August 29, 2018, 09:46:09 pm
The saying "throw a monkey wrench into the works," has no, zero, zip racial connotation.

It comes from a British sayin, about throwing a "Spanner" into the works.

a "spanner" is British for wrench.

"Monkey it up,," or "monkey up the works," have no racial connotation.


The candidate ought to simply say this.




Title: Re: DeSantis warns Floridians not to "monkey this up" by electing Gillum
Post by: Wingnut on August 29, 2018, 09:48:12 pm
The saying "throw a monkey wrench into the works," has no, zero, zip racial connotation.

It comes from a British sayin, about throwing a "Spanner" into the works.

a "spanner" is British for wrench.

"Monkey it up,," or "monkey up the works," have no racial connotation.


The candidate ought to simply say this.

Stop "Monkeying around" T/S
Title: Re: DeSantis warns Floridians not to "monkey this up" by electing Gillum
Post by: corbe on August 29, 2018, 09:54:28 pm
    The MSM loves to portray us Southerners as a bunch of racist hicks, when in fact we have progressed quite a bit in the 153 years since the 'War of Northern Aggression' has ended.
Title: Re: DeSantis warns Floridians not to "monkey this up" by electing Gillum
Post by: endicom on August 29, 2018, 10:32:31 pm

You guys are more fun than a barrel full of monkeys.

Title: Re: DeSantis warns Floridians not to "monkey this up" by electing Gillum
Post by: InHeavenThereIsNoBeer on August 29, 2018, 11:00:26 pm
Monkey Wrench is the reason I switched to Ogg Vorbis.  I just never could get an mp3 rip that would do it justice. 

Guess I'm a racist, then.
Title: Re: DeSantis warns Floridians not to "monkey this up" by electing Gillum
Post by: Wingnut on August 29, 2018, 11:03:05 pm
You guys are more fun than a barrel full of monkeys.

They say Monkey see, monkey do.
Title: Re: DeSantis warns Floridians not to "monkey this up" by electing Gillum
Post by: TomSea on August 29, 2018, 11:04:02 pm
Did DeSantis also say Gillum was articulate? No kidding here, "articulate" also has a history......really, I did not know this. Maybe a long time ago with Biden calling Obama that, I might have heard a little but websearch "articulate" and "racist" and you do get results. It might be more of a nuisance than "racist".

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On Being Called Articulate
By JOHN MCWHORTER | February 9, 2007
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Of the alphabetical sequence of adjectives famously applied to Barack Obama by Joseph Biden, bright and clean were awkward enough, but the one that got under my skin was articulate.

Educated black people such as myself are often called "articulate," and it's irritating. Contrary to popular misconception, it isn't racist, but it's still a nuisance.


There has been a flurry of commentary on Mr. Biden's use of the word in the press and blogosphere to the effect that when a white person calls a black one articulate, he means "for a black person." That is, presumably, white people think all black people speak street-corner "Ebonics," blind to the legions of middle-class and affluent blacks around them speaking Standard English. This blindness is, we are to assume, because of racism.

But the linguistic facts here tell a different story. While only some black people dwell in Ebonics 24/7, the vast majority flows in and out of Black English as various social contexts demand.

More at: https://www.nysun.com/opinion/on-being-called-articulate/48389/ (https://www.nysun.com/opinion/on-being-called-articulate/48389/)

Title: Re: DeSantis warns Floridians not to "monkey this up" by electing Gillum
Post by: TomSea on August 29, 2018, 11:08:11 pm
Gillum wants a 40% corporate tax rate and probably a lot of other stuff, that will get him creamed in the elections I think. There would be no reason to resort to doing other things.
Title: Re: DeSantis warns Floridians not to "monkey this up" by electing Gillum
Post by: 240B on August 29, 2018, 11:15:15 pm
To the liberal press everything is an "African American" in the woodpile.

And Then There Were None -- Agatha Christie
Title: Re: DeSantis warns Floridians not to "monkey this up" by electing Gillum
Post by: Frank Cannon on August 29, 2018, 11:49:15 pm
Does this mean that one of McLame's Pallbearers is a racist?

(https://cdn-ami-wordpress.heartyhosting.com/www.nationalenquirer.com/wp-content/uploads/old_neq/article_images/hart_stry_0.jpg?resize=540%2C400&ssl=1)
Title: Re: DeSantis warns Floridians not to "monkey this up" by electing Gillum
Post by: dfwgator on August 29, 2018, 11:50:06 pm
Does this mean that one of McLame's Pallbearers is a racist?

(https://cdn-ami-wordpress.heartyhosting.com/www.nationalenquirer.com/wp-content/uploads/old_neq/article_images/hart_stry_0.jpg?resize=540%2C400&ssl=1)

Nice catch.  That needs to be on Twitter.
Title: Re: DeSantis warns Floridians not to "monkey this up" by electing Gillum
Post by: 240B on August 30, 2018, 12:08:11 am
I've never heard the term 'monkey this up'. So I looked it up on the internet and could not find an example of anyone else saying, 'don't monkey this up'. It seems to be something that DeSantis made up himself. I have never heard it before, and I can't find any example of it anywhere.

This had to be some kind of Freudian thing. Why would anyone in their right mind say something so stupid about a Black opponent. It makes no sense at all.
Title: Re: DeSantis warns Floridians not to "monkey this up" by electing Gillum
Post by: Wingnut on August 30, 2018, 12:16:56 am
I've never heard the term 'monkey this up'. So I looked it up on the internet and could not find an example of anyone else saying, 'don't monkey this up'. It seems to be something that DeSantis made up himself. I have never heard it before, and I can't find any example of it anywhere.

This had to be some kind of Freudian thing. Why would anyone in their right mind say something so stupid about a Black opponent. I makes no sense at all.

Well I don't know where you are from but when I was growing up, "don't monkey it up" was what you said in polite company rather than "don't F(u)ck it up".  So based on his usage I'd say that is what he meant, but was being polite.   
Title: Re: DeSantis warns Floridians not to "monkey this up" by electing Gillum
Post by: corbe on August 30, 2018, 12:17:06 am
   'Don't Monkey it up' is something your Granpaw told you because Grandmaw would slap the $hit out of him if he said 'Don't Screw it up, Son'. 
    In my Southern upbringing anyway.   
    Must confess, I always liked it when Granmaw slapped the $hit out of Granpaw.
Title: Re: DeSantis warns Floridians not to "monkey this up" by electing Gillum
Post by: 240B on August 30, 2018, 12:31:23 am
OK. I am happy to defer to the experts. I thought I knew most of the Andy Griffith down home sayings but I must have missed this one. Thanks for clarifying it for me. I was genuinely confused by this.
Title: Re: DeSantis warns Floridians not to "monkey this up" by electing Gillum
Post by: TomSea on August 30, 2018, 02:28:10 am
"Don't muck it up" and... I thought to avoid dropping an "f" bomb, he might have said it the way he did. Who knows? As I said earlier, he seems to be a man of integrity, I'd give him the benefit of the doubt.
Title: Re: DeSantis warns Floridians not to "monkey this up" by electing Gillum
Post by: Absalom on August 30, 2018, 03:52:35 am
Not good.  One day...he already has a frickin' "Macaca Moment".
-------------------------------------------------------
Agreed,
DeSantis, a white conservative, wins decisively while
his opponent, a black socialist wins marginally.
Later DeSantis tells his voters," now don't monkey it up".
Could De Santis be more asinine than in this remark?????
The msm will now shove this brainless remark up his ass
from now till election day.
Of course the R fan club types will remain oblivious, cuz
anything an R sez must be gospel. Too stupid for words.

Title: Re: DeSantis warns Floridians not to "monkey this up" by electing Gillum
Post by: mountaineer on August 30, 2018, 12:41:46 pm
Am I the only person in America who doesn't immediately think "black people" when I hear or read the word "monkey"? Is that just a Democrat thing to equate African-Americans with simians? When I hear "monkey," I think of, well, monkeys. But I'm not a racist, so ...

Meanwhile, I guess he didn't get the memo.
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By Max Jaeger
August 29, 2018

Hey, look! ODB is actually a “full back.”

After Giants superstar wide receiver Odell Beckham Jr. inked a $95 million contract extension this week, making him the highest-paid wideout in history, he popped off his shirt to show off a massive, back-spanning tattoo.

The tableau — a nod to “Planet of the Apes” — depicts simian figures rising up from his waist amid an urban backdrop that includes a crumbling Chrysler Building on his right shoulder blade and Lady Liberty’s disembodied head below.  ... Full story (https://pagesix.com/2018/08/29/odell-beckham-jr-shows-off-massive-back-spanning-tattoo/)

(https://nyppagesix.files.wordpress.com/2018/08/odell-beckham-back-tattoo.jpg?quality=90&strip=all&w=618&h=410&crop=1)
Title: Re: DeSantis warns Floridians not to "monkey this up" by electing Gillum
Post by: endicom on August 30, 2018, 12:58:07 pm
monkey around: https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/monkey_around#English

Other monkey idiom: https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/monkey#English
Title: Re: DeSantis warns Floridians not to "monkey this up" by electing Gillum
Post by: Bigun on August 30, 2018, 01:42:09 pm
Am I the only person in America who doesn't immediately think "black people" when I hear or read the word "monkey"? Is that just a Democrat thing to equate African-Americans with simians? When I hear "monkey," I think of, well, monkeys. But I'm not a racist, so ...

Meanwhile, I guess he didn't get the memo.

@mountaineer

No Mam, you are not the only person who doesn't do that.  The world has gone NUTS!
Title: Re: DeSantis warns Floridians not to "monkey this up" by electing Gillum
Post by: TomSea on August 31, 2018, 06:48:02 pm
@skeeter @mystery-ak  @ Everyone.....

If anyone heard Glenn Beck this morning, it seems they have an example of DeSantis using this very same slogan a few months ago.... if that is so, that really changes the whole complexion.  The Beck show didn't give the exact specifics so maybe it was just using it in general.

This story has basically gone belly up though, yesterday's news, hardly a peep today, old news. Silly story but I would like to see more reference to where it was used prior.

I could find nothing to confirm what I heard this morning, probably because this story has really faded.