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Title: Trump says ‘even Cuomo’ did better than DeSantis on COVID-19
Post by: mystery-ak on May 25, 2023, 11:04:09 pm
 Trump says ‘even Cuomo’ did better than DeSantis on COVID-19
by Jared Gans - 05/25/23 2:07 PM ET

Former President Trump says “even” former New York Gov. Andrew Cuomo (D) handled the coronavirus pandemic better than Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis (R), his latest attack coming the day after DeSantis officially joined the 2024 GOP presidential primary.

Trump said in a video from his campaign Thursday that Florida had among the highest number of deaths from COVID-19 in the country and shut down numerous public locations at the onset of the pandemic, including beaches.

“How about the fact that he had the third-most deaths of any state… Even Cuomo did better. He was No. 4,” Trump said.

Data from the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention showed that Florida had the third-highest number of COVID-19-related deaths in 2021, while New York had the fourth-most. But the data also shows Florida had the 18th-highest death rate per 100,000 residents that year.

Trump has previously attacked DeSantis over his record handling the pandemic, claiming that he shut down his state while other Republican governors did not.

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https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/4021034-trump-says-even-cuomo-did-better-than-desantis-on-covid-19/
Title: Re: Trump says ‘even Cuomo’ did better than DeSantis on COVID-19
Post by: LMAO on May 25, 2023, 11:27:39 pm
I doubt Trump even believes this
Title: Re: Trump says ‘even Cuomo’ did better than DeSantis on COVID-19
Post by: corbe on May 25, 2023, 11:30:41 pm
   The Gov that killed thousands by shipping the elderly to Nursing Homes.  Great Move Trump.  /s
Title: Re: Trump says ‘even Cuomo’ did better than DeSantis on COVID-19
Post by: Idiot on May 25, 2023, 11:32:19 pm
He just can't keep his mouth shut.  Each time he does this he loses more and more potential voters.
Title: Re: Trump says ‘even Cuomo’ did better than DeSantis on COVID-19
Post by: mystery-ak on May 25, 2023, 11:35:25 pm
He just can't keep his mouth shut.  Each time he does this he loses more and more potential voters.

I know....how can you even defend statements like this....sheeeesh!
Title: Re: Trump says ‘even Cuomo’ did better than DeSantis on COVID-19
Post by: Wingnut on May 25, 2023, 11:54:38 pm
Unbelievable.  What an ass hole
Title: Re: Trump says ‘even Cuomo’ did better than DeSantis on COVID-19
Post by: libertybele on May 26, 2023, 12:10:15 am
Unbelievable.  What an ass hole

Trump is backed into a corner as he realizes he's not going to be able to compete with DeSantis on issues, so Trump's only path forward is to try to smear his reputation and lie.

Trump is indeed a complete a**hole.
Title: Re: Trump says ‘even Cuomo’ did better than DeSantis on COVID-19
Post by: ScottinVA on May 26, 2023, 12:35:32 am
Demented old POS.  He will never get my vote again.  If Trump wins the GOP nomination, I’ll be voting for the US Constitution Party nominee.
Title: Re: Trump says ‘even Cuomo’ did better than DeSantis on COVID-19
Post by: Idiot on May 26, 2023, 12:37:14 am
Demented old POS.  He will never get my vote again.  If Trump wins the GOP nomination, I’ll be voting for the US Constitution Party nominee.
You and me both.
Title: Re: Trump says ‘even Cuomo’ did better than DeSantis on COVID-19
Post by: Wingnut on May 26, 2023, 12:40:23 am
Demented old POS.  He will never get my vote again.  If Trump wins the GOP nomination, I’ll be voting for the US Constitution Party nominee.

Me and millions agree.  F that POS.
Title: Re: Trump says ‘even Cuomo’ did better than DeSantis on COVID-19
Post by: libertybele on May 26, 2023, 12:43:03 am
I doubt Trump even believes this

I doesn't matter @LMAO  what he believes, he made the statement.  There is no hiding from that now and it's going to come back to bite him, BIGLY!

People know he's flat out lying!
Title: Re: Trump says ‘even Cuomo’ did better than DeSantis on COVID-19
Post by: libertybele on May 26, 2023, 12:46:02 am
You and me both.

If it comes to that I'll be voting 3rd party or voting only down ballot.  I really used to like the Constitution Party but they've changed their platform a bit and have run some lousy candidates, so I'd have to see who they're running before I make that determination.  I will only vote for a conservative, period.
Title: Re: Trump says ‘even Cuomo’ did better than DeSantis on COVID-19
Post by: Wingnut on May 26, 2023, 12:49:44 am
Trump will jump the shark many times before the election.  It will be in stages.  He will piss off his attractors and shed them.  What will be left will be the cult.  Hanging on to a shell of a POS.
Title: Re: Trump says ‘even Cuomo’ did better than DeSantis on COVID-19
Post by: Hoodat on May 26, 2023, 12:51:03 am
Trump should move back to New York.
Title: Re: Trump says ‘even Cuomo’ did better than DeSantis on COVID-19
Post by: DB on May 26, 2023, 12:52:14 am
Stupid man.

Reminding everyone what went down with Covid on his watch is idiocy.

All those forced injections to keep your job. All the schools and business being shutdown.

Not to mention warp speed failure.

That's a winning strategy LOL...
Title: Re: Trump says ‘even Cuomo’ did better than DeSantis on COVID-19
Post by: ScottinVA on May 26, 2023, 12:54:04 am
Trump should move back to New York.

If that case in Manhattan works out, he will be.. for 3-5 years.
Title: Re: Trump says ‘even Cuomo’ did better than DeSantis on COVID-19
Post by: libertybele on May 26, 2023, 12:54:27 am
Trump will jump the shark many times before the election.  It will be in stages.  He will piss off his attractors and shed them.  What will be left will be the cult.  Hanging on to a shell of a POS.

He's going to self-destruct while the leftists continue to drag him through the courts.
Title: Re: Trump says ‘even Cuomo’ did better than DeSantis on COVID-19
Post by: kevindavis007 on May 26, 2023, 12:55:50 am
If it comes to that I'll be voting 3rd party or voting only down ballot.  I really used to like the Constitution Party but they've changed their platform a bit and have run some lousy candidates, so I'd have to see who they're running before I make that determination.  I will only vote for a conservative, period.


@libertybele


I thought about voting for the Libertarian Party, but they have gone bats**t crazy.


If Trump is the nominee, I'm voting for myself!
Title: Re: Trump says ‘even Cuomo’ did better than DeSantis on COVID-19
Post by: Wingnut on May 26, 2023, 12:57:58 am
He's going to self-destruct while the leftists continue to drag him through the courts.

His best place is in jail.
Title: Re: Trump says ‘even Cuomo’ did better than DeSantis on COVID-19
Post by: cato potatoe on May 26, 2023, 01:00:47 am
So we have resurrected the COVID fear porn, circa 2020.  Eew. 

I’m calling it right now.  Donald loses Florida to Biden.
Title: Re: Trump says ‘even Cuomo’ did better than DeSantis on COVID-19
Post by: ScottinVA on May 26, 2023, 01:04:10 am
Trump can adopt that old campaign slogan by LA Gov. Edwin Edwards.

https://ih1.redbubble.net/image.2324886431.3520/st,small,507x507-pad,600x600,f8f8f8.jpg
Title: Re: Trump says ‘even Cuomo’ did better than DeSantis on COVID-19
Post by: mountaineer on May 26, 2023, 01:11:28 am
Trump could have removed Fauci from any involvement in Covid policymaking, but he didn't. Why?
Title: Re: Trump says ‘even Cuomo’ did better than DeSantis on COVID-19
Post by: libertybele on May 26, 2023, 01:13:23 am
Trump could have removed Fauci from any involvement in Covid policymaking, but he didn't. Why?

That's an excellent question.
Title: Re: Trump says ‘even Cuomo’ did better than DeSantis on COVID-19
Post by: corbe on May 26, 2023, 01:15:21 am
   Kushner needed time to 'get his cut'.
Title: Re: Trump says ‘even Cuomo’ did better than DeSantis on COVID-19
Post by: Wingnut on May 26, 2023, 01:19:51 am
   Kushner needed time to 'get his cut'.

He is a bit of a gype.
Title: Re: Trump says ‘even Cuomo’ did better than DeSantis on COVID-19
Post by: mystery-ak on May 26, 2023, 01:35:39 am
If that case in Manhattan works out, he will be.. for 3-5 years.


 :silly:
Title: Re: Trump says ‘even Cuomo’ did better than DeSantis on COVID-19
Post by: mountaineer on May 26, 2023, 01:40:43 am
   Kushner needed time to 'get his cut'.
Any Pfizer in his portfolio?
Title: Re: Trump says ‘even Cuomo’ did better than DeSantis on COVID-19
Post by: GtHawk on May 26, 2023, 01:42:31 am
He just can't keep his mouth shut.  Each time he does this he loses more and more potential voters.
A month ago my 91 year old mother was all in on Trump, now after listening to Trumps childish insults and lies, and listening to DeSantis and learning about his service and political record she has changed to DeSantis supporter. Despite what some post here I believe as you say Trump is driving voters away.
Title: Re: Trump says ‘even Cuomo’ did better than DeSantis on COVID-19
Post by: libertybele on May 26, 2023, 01:43:48 am
   Kushner needed time to 'get his cut'.

Well that's definitely a very real possibility.
Title: Re: Trump says ‘even Cuomo’ did better than DeSantis on COVID-19
Post by: NavyCanDo on May 26, 2023, 05:22:40 am
Demented old POS.  He will never get my vote again.  If Trump wins the GOP nomination, I’ll be voting for the US Constitution Party nominee.

That's what I did in 2016 for much the same reason.   2020 I did vote for him, but I'm finding him far more unlikable now than in 2016.
Title: Re: Trump says ‘even Cuomo’ did better than DeSantis on COVID-19
Post by: NavyCanDo on May 26, 2023, 05:26:39 am

@libertybele


I thought about voting for the Libertarian Party, but they have gone bats**t crazy.


If Trump is the nominee, I'm voting for myself!

Really doesn't matter here in deep Blue WA were Biden is locked in.
Title: Re: Trump says ‘even Cuomo’ did better than DeSantis on COVID-19
Post by: Smokin Joe on May 26, 2023, 06:10:54 am
Demented old POS.  He will never get my vote again.  If Trump wins the GOP nomination, I’ll be voting for the US Constitution Party nominee.
I did in '16.
Title: Re: Trump says ‘even Cuomo’ did better than DeSantis on COVID-19
Post by: Smokin Joe on May 26, 2023, 06:11:27 am
That's what I did in 2016 for much the same reason.   2020 I did vote for him, but I'm finding him far more unlikable now than in 2016.
Same here.
Title: Re: Trump says ‘even Cuomo’ did better than DeSantis on COVID-19
Post by: NavyCanDo on May 26, 2023, 12:24:28 pm
The Trump worshipers seem to be missing on this thread.  There is no defending what he said, not even in their minds. 
Title: Re: Trump says ‘even Cuomo’ did better than DeSantis on COVID-19
Post by: libertybele on May 26, 2023, 12:27:53 pm
The Trump worshipers seem to be missing on this thread.  There is no defending what he said, not even in their minds.

I think they may have left the building.
Title: Re: Trump says ‘even Cuomo’ did better than DeSantis on COVID-19
Post by: Kamaji on May 26, 2023, 12:35:53 pm
:facepalm2:

Still waiting for the bleep to show up and "trumpsplain" the matter to us rubes.
Title: Re: Trump says ‘even Cuomo’ did better than DeSantis on COVID-19
Post by: andy58-in-nh on May 26, 2023, 12:37:53 pm
The Trump worshipers seem to be missing on this thread.  There is no defending what he said, not even in their minds.

Perhaps they are beginning to realize that Trump is driving away voters with his continuous (and increasing) displays of arrogance, pettiness, childish name-calling and petulant self-indulgence.
Title: Re: Trump says ‘even Cuomo’ did better than DeSantis on COVID-19
Post by: mountaineer on May 26, 2023, 12:38:13 pm
Cuomo killed people. DeSantis did not. Sit down, Mr. Trump.
Title: Re: Trump says ‘even Cuomo’ did better than DeSantis on COVID-19
Post by: LMAO on May 26, 2023, 12:42:43 pm
During Tuesday's White House press briefing, President Trump said Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis is "a great governor" who "knows exactly what he's doing" in response to the coronavirus pandemic.

https://www.npr.org/sections/coronavirus-live-updates/2020/03/31/824905343/fact-check-trump-praises-florida-governor-despite-criticism-of-coronavirus-respo

Title: Re: Trump says ‘even Cuomo’ did better than DeSantis on COVID-19
Post by: LMAO on May 26, 2023, 12:45:37 pm
It’s plain to see that Ron DeSantis’s official announcement has turned Trump’s world completely upside down, inside out, and mixed up. That, combined with his pending lawsuits, has definitely brought out who Trump really is and I think it’s a good thing for people to see more and more of.

Title: Re: Trump says ‘even Cuomo’ did better than DeSantis on COVID-19
Post by: mountaineer on May 26, 2023, 03:45:49 pm
Steve Deace
@SteveDeaceShow
For the life of me I don't understand how it is possibly a good attack (let alone honest) on DeSantis that he originally promoted Trump's beloved poison poke, and then turned back once the data came in while Trump continues Pfizering on. And DeSantis has the only public health department in America that has raised any safety warnings against the genetic serum, and currently has a grand jury requested by DeSantis to investigate the tragedy of Trump's Operation Warp Speed.

It would seem to me the best thing would be for Trump to just admit he got lied to by his big pharma buddies like Woody Johnson, become a bold champion for those damaged by all this, and just take the issue away from DeSantis rather than trying this type of gaslighting that is easily debunked and not fooling anybody that doesn't already want to be fooled (or willing to be). If anything, I am suggesting not only the morally right thing for Trump to do, but also the most politically expedient. For this is perhaps DeSantis' strongest rationale for being in this race at all.

But what do I know? After all, I am the only person in America who has written two certified best-sellers exposing the Covidstan scam.
8:30 AM · May 26, 2023
--------
Pedro L. Gonzalez
@emeriticus
DeSantis is capable of changing course. Trump is *still* bragging not only about the covid vaccines but how he made certain pharmaceutical companies wealthier with Operation Warp Speed. He’s friends with the heir to the Johnson & Johnson fortune. He has a financial interest in that company and Pfizer. Trump can’t bring himself to even criticize the Johnson & Johnson shot after several people died in connection to it.
Title: Re: Trump says ‘even Cuomo’ did better than DeSantis on COVID-19
Post by: GtHawk on May 26, 2023, 04:24:20 pm
Perhaps they are beginning to realize that Trump is driving away voters with his continuous (and increasing) displays of arrogance, pettiness, childish name-calling and petulant self-indulgence.
I doubt it, they are true believers and will never acknowledge a single flaw in their idol. I am surprised that there have been no posts of images of Trump as a mighty warrior, divinely lit etc. as they posted 2016,  :pondering: maybe Trump has trademarked all such images to use on his trading cards :whistle:
Title: Re: Trump says ‘even Cuomo’ did better than DeSantis on COVID-19
Post by: Hoodat on May 26, 2023, 04:53:19 pm
The Trump worshipers seem to be missing on this thread.  There is no defending what he said, not even in their minds.

I made a visit to TOS just to see if anyone would step forward to defend this.  Surprisingly, there were a few that did.
Title: Re: Trump says ‘even Cuomo’ did better than DeSantis on COVID-19
Post by: mountaineer on May 26, 2023, 05:51:54 pm
What I keep shaking my head about is that I have made no decision about 2024, waiting to see all the GOP candidates, to hear from them, compare them, and give each of them a chance to persuade me, before I make my choice. The things Trump's been saying lately make me not want to give him that same opportunity to earn my vote.
Title: Re: Trump says ‘even Cuomo’ did better than DeSantis on COVID-19
Post by: Kamaji on May 26, 2023, 05:52:32 pm
What I keep shaking my head about is that I have made no decision about 2024, waiting to see all the GOP candidates, to hear from them, compare them, and give each of them a chance to persuade me, before I make my choice. The things Trump's been saying lately make me not want to give him that same opportunity to earn my vote.

:thumbsup:
Title: Re: Trump says ‘even Cuomo’ did better than DeSantis on COVID-19
Post by: Kamaji on May 26, 2023, 05:52:47 pm
I made a visit to TOS just to see if anyone would step forward to defend this.  Surprisingly, there were a few that did.

What did their defense amount to?
Title: Re: Trump says ‘even Cuomo’ did better than DeSantis on COVID-19
Post by: Weird Tolkienish Figure on May 26, 2023, 06:04:30 pm
A month ago my 91 year old mother was all in on Trump, now after listening to Trumps childish insults and lies, and listening to DeSantis and learning about his service and political record she has changed to DeSantis supporter. Despite what some post here I believe as you say Trump is driving voters away.

That's hopeful.
Title: Re: Trump says ‘even Cuomo’ did better than DeSantis on COVID-19
Post by: Right_in_Virginia on May 26, 2023, 08:33:48 pm
Trump could have removed Fauci from any involvement in Covid policymaking, but he didn't. Why?

Fauci was the director of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases from 1984, when Reagan promoted him, to 2022.  His pedigree and resume were flawless.  Mike Pence, the Chair of the COVID Committee, insisted on working with Fauci (again) and publicly defended him against the President's rising concerns.  The President brought in his own team to counter Fauci.  But, you know this @mountaineer

The passive-aggressive question you can't seem to bring yourself to ask is:  "DeSantis followed Fauci's orders even in 2022.  Why?"

Every Covid policy during Trump’s term was set by a state governor—— including the seven Republican governors who kept their states open and ignored Fauci; and including Gov. DeSantis who followed Fauci as one follows Holy Scripture.

Ronny locked down his state, closed his schools, businesses and beaches, implemented mandatory quarantines for travelers from states with high infection rates -— using the police to enforce this order. Ronny followed every Fauci edict on masks, social distancing, testing, vaccines (assuring Floridians if they were vaccinated they would not get Covid) into 2022.

When Ronny reopened his state, he proudly did so in total compliance with Fauci’s rules, going so far as telling the police to close businesses and suspend licenses of those not cooperating.

And it’s all on tape.
Title: Re: Trump says ‘even Cuomo’ did better than DeSantis on COVID-19
Post by: Cyber Liberty on May 26, 2023, 08:37:14 pm
Unlikely, considering Cuomo murdered tens of thousands of old folks in Nursing Homes by forcing them to take active COVID patients.
Title: Re: Trump says ‘even Cuomo’ did better than DeSantis on COVID-19
Post by: Kamaji on May 26, 2023, 08:40:53 pm
Fauci was the director of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases from 1984, when Reagan promoted him, to 2022.  His pedigree and resume were flawless.  Mike Pence, the Chair of the COVID Committee, insisted on working with Fauci (again) and publicly defended him against the President's rising concerns.  The President brought in his own team to counter Fauci.  But, you know this @mountaineer

The passive-aggressive question you can't seem to bring yourself to ask is:  "DeSantis followed Fauci's orders even in 2022.  Why?"

Every Covid policy during Trump’s term was set by a state governor—— including the seven Republican governors who kept their states open and ignored Fauci; and including Gov. DeSantis who followed Fauci as one follows Holy Scripture.

Ronny locked down his state, closed his schools, businesses and beaches, implemented mandatory quarantines for travelers from states with high infection rates -— using the police to enforce this order. Ronny followed every Fauci edict on masks, social distancing, testing, vaccines (assuring Floridians if they were vaccinated they would not get Covid) into 2022.

When Ronny reopened his state, he proudly did so in total compliance with Fauci’s rules, going so far as telling the police to close businesses and suspend licenses of those not cooperating.

And it’s all on tape.

:mauslaff:

Po widdle Twumpie, he was da victum of soikomstanz; he was a real genius.
Title: Re: Trump says ‘even Cuomo’ did better than DeSantis on COVID-19
Post by: Cyber Liberty on May 26, 2023, 08:41:00 pm
What I keep shaking my head about is that I have made no decision about 2024, waiting to see all the GOP candidates, to hear from them, compare them, and give each of them a chance to persuade me, before I make my choice. The things Trump's been saying lately make me not want to give him that same opportunity to earn my vote.

Same here.  My mind is not made up, but the antics of Trump and his supporters are convincing me to look around at other candidates. 
Title: Re: Trump says ‘even Cuomo’ did better than DeSantis on COVID-19
Post by: mountaineer on May 26, 2023, 08:41:11 pm
Fauci was the director of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases from 1984, when Reagan promoted him, to 2022.  His pedigree and resume were flawless.  Mike Pence, the Chair of the COVID Committee, insisted on working with Fauci (again) and publicly defended him against the President's rising concerns.  The President brought in his own team to counter Fauci.  But, you know this @mountaineer

The passive-aggressive question you can't seem to bring yourself to ask is:  "DeSantis followed Fauci's orders even in 2022.  Why?"
Wow, speaking of passive-aggressive. I'm not the topic here.
Title: Re: Trump says ‘even Cuomo’ did better than DeSantis on COVID-19
Post by: bigheadfred on May 26, 2023, 08:43:24 pm
Fauci was the director of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases from 1984, when Reagan promoted him, to 2022.  His pedigree and resume were flawless.  Mike Pence, the Chair of the COVID Committee, insisted on working with Fauci (again) and publicly defended him against the President's rising concerns.  The President brought in his own team to counter Fauci.  But, you know this @mountaineer

The passive-aggressive question you can't seem to bring yourself to ask is:  "DeSantis followed Fauci's orders even in 2022.  Why?"

Every Covid policy during Trump’s term was set by a state governor—— including the seven Republican governors who kept their states open and ignored Fauci; and including Gov. DeSantis who followed Fauci as one follows Holy Scripture.

Ronny locked down his state, closed his schools, businesses and beaches, implemented mandatory quarantines for travelers from states with high infection rates -— using the police to enforce this order. Ronny followed every Fauci edict on masks, social distancing, testing, vaccines (assuring Floridians if they were vaccinated they would not get Covid) into 2022.

When Ronny reopened his state, he proudly did so in total compliance with Fauci’s rules, going so far as telling the police to close businesses and suspend licenses of those not cooperating.

And it’s all on tape.

 goopo
Title: Re: Trump says ‘even Cuomo’ did better than DeSantis on COVID-19
Post by: Hoodat on May 27, 2023, 01:04:22 am
What did their defense amount to?

@Kamaji
Here's a sampling.  Take your pick.  If you're looking for a truthful rational argument, then get used to disappointment:

- If you criticize Trump, then you're not a patriot.

- DeSantis imposed lockdown orders that rivaled the worst shutdown nazis in the U.S.

- Florida deaths occurred long after NY deaths, so DeSantis should have learned from Cuomo and done better.

- Trump fraternized with Democrats for business reasons only, while DeSantis has been a government employee for his whole career.

- DeSantis voted for a Florida bill which gave authorities the right to forcibly detain, test, and vaccinate any individual that was deemed a risk to the public.

- Saint Desantis does NOTHING without a hearing from his donors!!! He is a made man ... waiting for the green light from his law buddies they are going to jail President Trump.

- There isn't a single lockdown order anywhere that has Donald Trump's name on it.  Trump did exactly what I expected him to do under the limited authority he had.

- Why is it that Trump should NOT be deferring to the leaders in the field who will be addressing the emergency spread of viruses? Was Trump to spend months hunting those experts who he thought could be better than the head of the CDC? How stupid of you.

- Desantis locked dowen FLA just like most goveenors and he had no “special sauce”.

- You are a POS.

- BTW your favorite BackStabbing Ron is a POS too.

- Trump knows better than anyone else that DeSantis has been getting groomed, managed and manicured to run in 2024 by the same big-government globalists who have been peddling @ssholes like the Bushes, Cheneys, Ryan, McCain, etc. as "conservatives" for years.

- what’s Ron done other than take steps toward line his pockets with tax payer money or donations from people who hate the USA? he’s a govt employee past and present always on the tax payer dime.

-  I have done a search on Trump's Truth Social page... Donald J. Trump, @realDonaldTrump.... and I do NOT find this particular post.  .  .  never happened

- Call your mother, maybe she'll/he'll care.

-  DuhSaintes id not a conservative he is a Bush/Chaney Republocrat

- I'll bet you think the people financing deanctomonious are true conservatives. I mean carl rove, paul ryan and macconnell are so conservative and all, right?

- desanctomonious is a rino that will not do anything he says he will. Just like bush and all the other people that support him.

- DeSantics attacked President Trump on COVID, President Trump counterpunched. Only a fool can’t see that’s what is going on

- I guess DeSantis has such a poor record he can’t even talk about it - has to just make things up.

- <May we see your data?>  -  Sure, see bush or paul ryan or carl rove or mitt romney or mcconnell .... You know, the people behind the desanctomoniuos campaign.

- desanctomonious closed the beaches and many business, and made it mandatory, that accomplished nothing but to ruin peoples lives. He has signed legislation that criminalizes hate/free speech. He signed legislation that makes it voluntary for companies to comply with laws against hiring illegal aliens. By his silence, he supports the 2020 steal and the persecution of Trump and anyone that supports Trump. I could go on and on, but that’s enough time wasted on you.

- All you have to do is compare death counts and that’s what he did. Florida is 3rd highest, NY is 4th highest. Honestly, the pandemic was a scam and the whole country was tricked. That being said, Trump was on camera daily pushing therapeutics, telling people that masks were not required, and gathering. All of the things he did and said were called irresponsible because he wasn’t “following the science” it was months before Trump was seen with a mask and that was one time when he went to the Veteran hospital. When he got COVID he made a whole show about taking off the masks. Everyone coming out now as anti this and anti that should have been on TV every day saying that Trump was right (they were not). Trump ultimately gave in more than I would have liked but it’s in part because he wasn’t getting any support and was not able to convince other “leaders” to talk like h on the issue. Trump, during his rallies would suggest he was going to fire fauci “after “ the election. I think everyone pretending, like Desanctimonius, that they would have fired the expert (most senior) virologist on staff the day he came to the office and said there is a pandemic and it’s going to be worst that the Spanish flu, it a liar. Desanctimonius has a fitting name. He’s a liar

Title: Re: Trump says ‘even Cuomo’ did better than DeSantis on COVID-19
Post by: corbe on May 27, 2023, 01:17:10 am
   Trump was scared $hitless with the outbreak of Covid and looked at that little weasel faucci, who was willing to step up and thought, great, someone to take the blame if this all goes sideways which it did.  Instead of firing him he places a Presidential Medal around his neck on the way out and still takes credit for his SIL Kushner's Operation Warpspeed. 
Title: Re: Trump says ‘even Cuomo’ did better than DeSantis on COVID-19
Post by: Hoodat on May 27, 2023, 01:31:45 am
Fauci was the director of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases from 1984, when Reagan promoted him, to 2022.

So your excuse for Trump not being able to drain the Swamp of Fauci is because he had been there for over 30 years?


His pedigree and resume were flawless.

Uh, no.  Fauci broke the law, and everyone knew it.  Including Trump.  He conducted gain-of-function research in violation of US law, and then lied under oath to Congress about it.  Flawless?  I think not.


Mike Pence, the Chair of the COVID Committee, insisted on working with Fauci (again) and publicly defended him against the President's rising concerns.

So Trump is taking orders from Pence now?


The President brought in his own team to counter Fauci.

To counter Fauci?  How did that work, exactly?


The passive-aggressive question you can't seem to bring yourself to ask is:  "DeSantis followed Fauci's orders even in 2022.  Why?"

The obvious reason no one is asking that question is because it is a complete lie.


.  .  Gov. DeSantis who followed Fauci as one follows Holy Scripture.

Also a complete lie.


Ronny locked down his state, closed his schools, businesses and beaches, implemented mandatory quarantines for travelers from states with high infection rates -— using the police to enforce this order.

DeSantis did not lock down his State.  He didn't close schools, businesses, or beaches.  The traveler quarantine was specifically for travelers from New York in response to their own State Covid policy.  It was a brilliant move.  Unless you happen to be a Democrat who chooses to criticize it.


Ronny followed every Fauci edict on masks, social distancing, testing, vaccines (assuring Floridians if they were vaccinated they would not get Covid) into 2022.

Lies and bullshit.  Bullshit and lies.


When Ronny reopened his state, he proudly did so in total compliance with Fauci’s rules, going so far as telling the police to close businesses and suspend licenses of those not cooperating.

More lies.  More bullshit.


And it’s all on tape.

Yep.  It's on tape all right.  Here ya go!

  (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8VQ1lWdX8hA)
Title: Re: Trump says ‘even Cuomo’ did better than DeSantis on COVID-19
Post by: Kamaji on May 27, 2023, 12:31:26 pm
@Kamaji
Here's a sampling.  Take your pick.  If you're looking for a truthful rational argument, then get used to disappointment:

- If you criticize Trump, then you're not a patriot.

- DeSantis imposed lockdown orders that rivaled the worst shutdown nazis in the U.S.

- Florida deaths occurred long after NY deaths, so DeSantis should have learned from Cuomo and done better.

- Trump fraternized with Democrats for business reasons only, while DeSantis has been a government employee for his whole career.

- DeSantis voted for a Florida bill which gave authorities the right to forcibly detain, test, and vaccinate any individual that was deemed a risk to the public.

- Saint Desantis does NOTHING without a hearing from his donors!!! He is a made man ... waiting for the green light from his law buddies they are going to jail President Trump.

- There isn't a single lockdown order anywhere that has Donald Trump's name on it.  Trump did exactly what I expected him to do under the limited authority he had.

- Why is it that Trump should NOT be deferring to the leaders in the field who will be addressing the emergency spread of viruses? Was Trump to spend months hunting those experts who he thought could be better than the head of the CDC? How stupid of you.

- Desantis locked dowen FLA just like most goveenors and he had no “special sauce”.

- You are a POS.

- BTW your favorite BackStabbing Ron is a POS too.

- Trump knows better than anyone else that DeSantis has been getting groomed, managed and manicured to run in 2024 by the same big-government globalists who have been peddling @ssholes like the Bushes, Cheneys, Ryan, McCain, etc. as "conservatives" for years.

- what’s Ron done other than take steps toward line his pockets with tax payer money or donations from people who hate the USA? he’s a govt employee past and present always on the tax payer dime.

-  I have done a search on Trump's Truth Social page... Donald J. Trump, @realDonaldTrump.... and I do NOT find this particular post.  .  .  never happened

- Call your mother, maybe she'll/he'll care.

-  DuhSaintes id not a conservative he is a Bush/Chaney Republocrat

- I'll bet you think the people financing deanctomonious are true conservatives. I mean carl rove, paul ryan and macconnell are so conservative and all, right?

- desanctomonious is a rino that will not do anything he says he will. Just like bush and all the other people that support him.

- DeSantics attacked President Trump on COVID, President Trump counterpunched. Only a fool can’t see that’s what is going on

- I guess DeSantis has such a poor record he can’t even talk about it - has to just make things up.

- <May we see your data?>  -  Sure, see bush or paul ryan or carl rove or mitt romney or mcconnell .... You know, the people behind the desanctomoniuos campaign.

- desanctomonious closed the beaches and many business, and made it mandatory, that accomplished nothing but to ruin peoples lives. He has signed legislation that criminalizes hate/free speech. He signed legislation that makes it voluntary for companies to comply with laws against hiring illegal aliens. By his silence, he supports the 2020 steal and the persecution of Trump and anyone that supports Trump. I could go on and on, but that’s enough time wasted on you.

- All you have to do is compare death counts and that’s what he did. Florida is 3rd highest, NY is 4th highest. Honestly, the pandemic was a scam and the whole country was tricked. That being said, Trump was on camera daily pushing therapeutics, telling people that masks were not required, and gathering. All of the things he did and said were called irresponsible because he wasn’t “following the science” it was months before Trump was seen with a mask and that was one time when he went to the Veteran hospital. When he got COVID he made a whole show about taking off the masks. Everyone coming out now as anti this and anti that should have been on TV every day saying that Trump was right (they were not). Trump ultimately gave in more than I would have liked but it’s in part because he wasn’t getting any support and was not able to convince other “leaders” to talk like h on the issue. Trump, during his rallies would suggest he was going to fire fauci “after “ the election. I think everyone pretending, like Desanctimonius, that they would have fired the expert (most senior) virologist on staff the day he came to the office and said there is a pandemic and it’s going to be worst that the Spanish flu, it a liar. Desanctimonius has a fitting name. He’s a liar



Thanks.  Not disappointed in the least, since this is what I expected.  I would have been surprised if there had been a rational argument.
Title: Re: Trump says ‘even Cuomo’ did better than DeSantis on COVID-19
Post by: mountaineer on May 27, 2023, 12:41:55 pm
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Kurt Schlichter
@KurtSchlichter
Just stop.  It’s OK to like Trump. It’s not OK to say stupid things that are facially false and dumb.
11:43 PM · May 26, 2023
My sentiments exactly. If Trump's your guy, fine. Just don't lie about the other candidates or call them silly childish names.
Title: Re: Trump says ‘even Cuomo’ did better than DeSantis on COVID-19
Post by: Maj. Bill Martin on May 27, 2023, 12:52:05 pm
Fauci was the director of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases from 1984, when Reagan promoted him, to 2022.  His pedigree and resume were flawless.  Mike Pence, the Chair of the COVID Committee, insisted on working with Fauci (again) and publicly defended him against the President's rising concerns.  The President brought in his own team to counter Fauci.  But, you know this @mountaineer


A lot of words, none of which answered the actual question of why Trump didn't remove him.  Trump - not Pence - was President, and nobody could have stopped Trump from removing Fauci from being the Administration's spokesman in COVID.

So why didn't Trump remove Fauci?

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"DeSantis followed Fauci's orders even in 2022.  Why?"

He only followed Fauci's recommendations for a couple of months, and the reason he did that was because that's the guy Trump put in charge of COVID policy and recommendations. But after that first couple of months, when DeSantis could see for himself that the data on the ground was not matching the claims made by Trump's Covid czar, he decided to ignore the Trump Administration's recommendations.

Why did Trump persist in deferring to Fauci long after so many governors had rejected the federal approach, and why did he end up giving a medal to him??
Title: Re: Trump says ‘even Cuomo’ did better than DeSantis on COVID-19
Post by: Hoodat on May 27, 2023, 03:38:56 pm
My sentiments exactly. If Trump's your guy, fine. Just don't lie about the other candidates or call them silly childish names.

Good luck with that.