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Title: New Poll: DeSantis Is Only GOP Presidential Candidate Who Leads Biden in Crucial Swing States
Post by: mystery-ak on May 20, 2023, 01:56:16 pm
New Poll: DeSantis Is Only GOP Presidential Candidate Who Leads Biden in Crucial Swing States
By Mike Miller | 7:30 PM on May 19, 2023

Before we dig into the main course, a few words about polling in general. First, it’s been my experience that many—if not most—casual poll watchers tend to pay selective attention to polls, not unlike Fox News or CNN viewers who watch various on-air personalities to be told what they want to hear.

Second, we’ve seen candidates laud the results of a particular poll when its results favor them, then turn around and call the exact same polls “fake” when they don’t like the poll’s latest results. Third, while pre-primary polls conducted among likely voters of a single party might be lauded by various candidates and their followers, polls conducted among all likely voters present a more accurate picture of the general election.

And finally, I wouldn’t bet the farm on the results of any poll(s) before the first primary vote is cast, much less with the general election a year-and-a-half away. Bottom line: while some might stubbornly cling to the results of this or that poll, all poll results are merely snapshots in time; virtual “temperature takers,” as it were.

My point? There’s a bunch of water yet to flow under the bridge before the only poll that matters takes place.

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https://redstate.com/mike_miller/2023/05/19/new-poll-desantis-is-only-gop-presidential-candidate-who-leads-biden-in-crucial-swing-states-n748646
Title: Re: New Poll: DeSantis Is Only GOP Presidential Candidate Who Leads Biden in Crucial Swing States
Post by: Hoodat on May 20, 2023, 02:02:47 pm
Makes sense.  It does no good for Trump to lead DeSantis in Oklahoma or Tennessee if he trails both DeSantis and Biden in the States that matter most.
Title: Re: New Poll: DeSantis Is Only GOP Presidential Candidate Who Leads Biden in Crucial Swing States
Post by: Free Vulcan on May 20, 2023, 02:05:48 pm
I take little stock in polls after '22. But at least it sounds like RDS has name recognition.
Title: Re: New Poll: DeSantis Is Only GOP Presidential Candidate Who Leads Biden in Crucial Swing States
Post by: libertybele on May 20, 2023, 06:17:19 pm
I take little stock in polls after '22. But at least it sounds like RDS has name recognition.

Sure he does -- 445,000 people moved to FL in 2022.  Word gets around.  Then there's the whole issue with Disney that will make people aware.

Polls aren't accurate and I take this with a grain of salt.
Title: Re: New Poll: DeSantis Is Only GOP Presidential Candidate Who Leads Biden in Crucial Swing States
Post by: GtHawk on May 20, 2023, 06:23:53 pm
Sure he does -- 445,000 people moved to FL in 2022.  Word gets around.  Then there's the whole issue with Disney that will make people aware.

Polls aren't accurate and I take this with a grain of salt.
Hey don't forget Trump, Trump is making DeSantis a household name...just not the way the great divider hoped he would :silly:
Title: Re: New Poll: DeSantis Is Only GOP Presidential Candidate Who Leads Biden in Crucial Swing States
Post by: Right_in_Virginia on May 23, 2023, 03:41:33 pm
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Title: Re: New Poll: DeSantis Is Only GOP Presidential Candidate Who Leads Biden in Crucial Swing States
Post by: Right_in_Virginia on May 23, 2023, 03:42:48 pm
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Title: Re: New Poll: DeSantis Is Only GOP Presidential Candidate Who Leads Biden in Crucial Swing States
Post by: cato potatoe on May 23, 2023, 04:33:39 pm
We don't need a sample after the past three elections.  The one Trump carried was before he failed as president.  2016 was an electoral college anomaly, and he still underperformed the congressional candidates. 
Title: Re: New Poll: DeSantis Is Only GOP Presidential Candidate Who Leads Biden in Crucial Swing States
Post by: Hoodat on May 23, 2023, 04:36:38 pm
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Wow!  DeSantis hasn't even entered the race, yet he only trails Trump by three points.
Title: Re: New Poll: DeSantis Is Only GOP Presidential Candidate Who Leads Biden in Crucial Swing States
Post by: DB on May 23, 2023, 04:40:53 pm
Wow!  DeSantis hasn't even entered the race, yet he only trails Trump by three points.

Biden?
Title: Re: New Poll: DeSantis Is Only GOP Presidential Candidate Who Leads Biden in Crucial Swing States
Post by: Hoodat on May 23, 2023, 04:43:56 pm
Crap.  I read that wrong.
Title: Re: New Poll: DeSantis Is Only GOP Presidential Candidate Who Leads Biden in Crucial Swing States
Post by: Hoodat on May 23, 2023, 04:49:43 pm
Here it is:


RUST BELT POLL: Battleground poll of Rust Belt states shows Trump 47, Biden 38, but Biden 38, DeSantis 34: Richard Baris' Big Data Poll

Rust Belt voters polled said that they preferred Biden to Florida's anti-woke governor DeSantis, 38.3 percent to 33.9 percent.


Poll (https://application.marketsight.com/app/ItemView.aspx?SharedFor=public%40bigdatapoll.com&SharedBy=34090&id=44a6b48d-d263-4d61-856d-affe00332e78)

https://thepostmillennial.com/rust-belt-poll-battleground-poll-of-rust-belt-states-shows-trump-47-biden-38-but-biden-38-desantis-34-richard-baris-big-data-poll
Title: Re: New Poll: DeSantis Is Only GOP Presidential Candidate Who Leads Biden in Crucial Swing States
Post by: Right_in_Virginia on May 23, 2023, 04:57:43 pm
Wow!  DeSantis hasn't even entered the race, yet he only trails Trump by three points.

Check your math.
Title: Re: New Poll: DeSantis Is Only GOP Presidential Candidate Who Leads Biden in Crucial Swing States
Post by: Kamaji on May 23, 2023, 04:59:41 pm
No wonder Trump and his cult are so terrified of DeSantis - he can't even stay more than 10 percentage points ahead of some guy who isn't even running yet.
Title: Re: New Poll: DeSantis Is Only GOP Presidential Candidate Who Leads Biden in Crucial Swing States
Post by: bigheadfred on May 23, 2023, 05:11:49 pm
No wonder Trump and his cult are so terrified of DeSantis - he can't even stay more than 10 percentage points ahead of some guy who isn't even running yet.

For someone who isn't running he has been doing a bit more running around the country and the world than other governors.
Title: Re: New Poll: DeSantis Is Only GOP Presidential Candidate Who Leads Biden in Crucial Swing States
Post by: Right_in_Virginia on May 23, 2023, 11:09:35 pm
No wonder Trump and his cult are so terrified of DeSantis - he can't even stay more than 10 percentage points ahead of some guy who isn't even running yet.

You forgot to include the sarcasm tag.   pointing-up

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Title: Re: New Poll: DeSantis Is Only GOP Presidential Candidate Who Leads Biden in Crucial Swing States
Post by: corbe on May 23, 2023, 11:16:04 pm
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Title: Re: New Poll: DeSantis Is Only GOP Presidential Candidate Who Leads Biden in Crucial Swing States
Post by: kevindavis007 on May 24, 2023, 04:16:52 pm
You forgot to include the sarcasm tag.   pointing-up

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I'm still waiting for you to explain to me how Trump is going to get 270+ EV either against Biden or Newsom.
Title: Re: New Poll: DeSantis Is Only GOP Presidential Candidate Who Leads Biden in Crucial Swing States
Post by: GtHawk on May 24, 2023, 08:27:58 pm
You forgot to include the sarcasm tag.   pointing-up

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Well you often forget the (https://i.imgur.com/SgUFCc1.gif) tag on your posts  :shrug:
Title: Re: New Poll: DeSantis Is Only GOP Presidential Candidate Who Leads Biden in Crucial Swing States
Post by: Maj. Bill Martin on May 24, 2023, 08:37:56 pm

I'm still waiting for you to explain to me how Trump is going to get 270+ EV either against Biden or Newsom.

They believe MAGA are an absolute majority, and they don't need anyone else's vote.  Including that of Republicans who have turned from the guy.

In fact, if elections were honest, there is more than enough MAGA support throughout the country to elect a filibuster proof majority in the Senate, and over 300 members in the House.

MAGA!  MAGA!  MAGA!
Title: Re: New Poll: DeSantis Is Only GOP Presidential Candidate Who Leads Biden in Crucial Swing States
Post by: GtHawk on May 24, 2023, 09:38:38 pm
They believe MAGA are an absolute majority, and they don't need anyone else's vote.  Including that of Republicans who have turned from the guy.

In fact, if elections were honest, there is more than enough MAGA support throughout the country to elect a filibuster proof majority in the Senate, and over 300 members in the House.

MAGA!  MAGA!  MAGA!
If that was true there wouldn't be this hard push to discredit and denigrate DeSantis, why bother if they didn't need anyone but the MAGA Trump voters to elect Trump? But no, every day we are inundated with lame graphics, leftist articles and repetition of lies, for what reason if Trump is so unbeatable?