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General Category => Elections 2024 => Topic started by: Timber Rattler on November 19, 2022, 03:27:42 pm
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Trump vs. DeSantis: How the two GOP heavyweights match up
https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/3740984-trump-vs-desantis-how-the-two-gop-heavyweights-match-up/
Two years out from the next presidential election, the leading contenders on the Republican side are already clear.
At this early stage, it’s a two-horse race between former President Trump and Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis.
Trump launched his 2024 campaign at Mar-a-Lago on Tuesday. He is aiming to avenge his 2020 defeat and become the first president since Grover Cleveland to serve nonconsecutive terms.
DeSantis won a resounding victory in his reelection battle on Election Day, crushing his Democratic opponent, Charlie Crist, by about 20 points. The result sent a powerful signal about his likely electability in 2024.
There is one obvious difference between the two. DeSantis has not yet said he will seek the presidency.
If he does, he would plainly be Trump’s most serious rival.
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DeSantis has been catapulted past Trump in several polls after Trump suffered a poor outcome in the midterms.
A number of the former president’s high-profile endorsees lost. Several party figures, including Maryland Gov. Larry Hogan and former New Jersey Gov. Chris Christie, have suggested Trump is harming the party’s brand.
The popularity shift from Trump to DeSantis was especially stark in several polls commissioned in early primary states by the conservative Club for Growth.
A poll in Iowa put DeSantis 11 points clear of Trump, a marked turnaround from a similar poll in August when the Florida governor had been behind by 15 points.
In the most recent poll in New Hampshire, DeSantis led by around 15 points, despite the two candidates having been tied in August.
National polls point in a similar direction.
An Economist-YouGov poll this week indicated that 46 percent of Republican voters would prefer DeSantis to be the nominee, compared to 39 percent who would favor Trump.
The Economist poll also exposed Trump’s Achilles’ heel: the sheer number of people who dislike him.
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Polls are polls and are manipulated by the MSM. DeSantis has not announced that he is running. I don't think he'll run in '24, especially with Trump announcing.
Cruz also stated that he wouldn't run against Trump.
Trump selecting either DeSantis or Cruz as a running mate would be extremely helpful to seating a GOP in '24 -- just my opinion.
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Polls are polls and are manipulated by the MSM. DeSantis has not announced that he is running. I don't think he'll run in '24, especially with Trump announcing.
Cruz also stated that he wouldn't run against Trump.
Trump selecting either DeSantis or Cruz as a running mate would be extremely helpful to seating a GOP in '24 -- just my opinion.
Both would be fools to accept the invite.
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Both would be fools to accept the invite.
I disagree. In as much as I seriously take issue with Trump currently attacking conservatives, selecting either would unite the party which is needed, BIGLY!
Do I think Trump should pass the baton and the MAGA movement to a younger, more conservative Republican with less baggage? Absolutely. I believe the GOP needed another candidate running in the primaries, but, Trump has already announced he's running. Any conservative running against him will only splinter the party and that is the last thing that the GOP needs.
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There is currently no Trump vs DeSantis race but the Democrats and their propaganda arm (MSM) are sure as hell trying to foment one!
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Both would be fools to accept the invite.
It would be foolish to invite either onto a national ticket.
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There is currently no Trump vs DeSantis race but the Democrats and their propaganda arm (MSM) are sure as hell trying to foment one!
Over the next 18 months, the Dems will do whatever it takes to prop up Trump as the GOP candidate. After that, all hell breaks loose. Trump is their best shot at keeping the White House.
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Neither of these two are stupid enough to hitch aboard the Trump Train. He is a Political Career ender. ie....Pence.
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Both would be fools to accept the invite.
That's right. Cruz has almost damaged himself irreparably over his support for Tump.
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I disagree. In as much as I seriously take issue with Trump currently attacking conservatives, selecting either would unite the party which is needed, BIGLY!
Unity for the sake of unity, or for the sake of a man is wrong.
Unity around false principles is doom.
If you want unity, the Principles of Conservatism await.
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Unity for the sake of unity, or for the sake of a man is wrong.
Unity around false principles is doom.
If you want unity, the Principles of Conservatism await.
Point taken.
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The Hill?
No thanks.
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Neither of these two are stupid enough to hitch aboard the Trump Train. He is a Political Career ender. ie....Pence.
Trump didn't end Pence's political career ---- Pence did.
There's a civil war blazing for the soul of he Republican party and "ie.... Pence" has chosen the wrong side----he's decided to swim in the deep end of the corrupt, Uniparty swamp. Pence will never get this stench off himself; and he has only himself to blame.
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That's right. Cruz has almost damaged himself irreparably over his support for Tump.
Nope. Cruz damaged himself by not supporting Trump. "Vote your conscience" was a deep, self-infliicted political wound.
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Nope. Cruz damaged himself by not supporting Trump. "Vote your conscience" was a deep, self-infliicted political wound.
So remind me again who's still in office as a U.S. Senator from Texas and who is wallowing in political exile as a disgraced ex-President?
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Polls are polls and are manipulated by the MSM. DeSantis has not announced that he is running. I don't think he'll run in '24, especially with Trump announcing.
@libertybele
Why WOULD he run,when chances are Trump will pick him for his VP,and he ends up spending 3 terms in the WH anyhow,with two of them as President?
Or he could just wait out the end of Trump's one term as the Gov of Florida,and THEN run?
He HAS to know that he runs against Trump it is going to cost him a LOT of the votes he would have gotten if he hadn't.
Mine will be one of them. I would vote Dim before I would vote for him if he does that.
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Over the next 18 months, the Dems will do whatever it takes to prop up Trump as the GOP candidate. After that, all hell breaks loose. Trump is their best shot at keeping the White House.
@Hoodat
The scary part is you really do believe that.
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Trump didn't end Pence's political career ---- Pence did.
@Right_in_Virginia
Yeah,but what the hell,let's blame it on Trump,anyhow!
After all,you DO know he is rude,right?
What we need in Presidential politics is more manners. Candidates should not call each other names or make implications as to wrong doing.
To quote that famous 'murikan Rodney King,"Ca....ca....cain't we all juz gitalong?"
HEY! Is Rodney doing anything these days? Maybe we can get him to run?
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@Hoodat
The scary part is you really do believe that.
I believe it as well....
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So remind me again who's still in office as a U.S. Senator from Texas and who is wallowing in political exile as a disgraced ex-President?
@Timber Rattler
WHOA,MISSY! That one really blew your skirts up and revealed you as the Pence follower you are.
Which explains a lot about you.
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So remind me again who's still in office as a U.S. Senator from Texas and who is wallowing in political exile as a disgraced ex-President?
The really sad part is that I used to really like Pence. I like Cruz as well but my brother tells me that his friends that work for Cruz say he's quite obnoxious.
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The really sad part is that I used to really like Pence. I like Cruz as well but my brother tells me that his friends that work for Cruz say he's quite obnoxious.
Ted Cruz is wicked smart and doesn't tolerate a lot of BS. Some people think that to be obnoxious but I'm not one of those people.
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@Timber Rattler
WHOA,MISSY! That one really blew your skirts up and revealed you as the Pence follower you are.
Which explains a lot about you.
Yeah, so what? I like Mike Pence too. He's got courage, and more importantly, integrity, which is a completely foreign concept to mob boss Trump.
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Yeah, so what? I like Mike Pence too. He's got courage, and more importantly, integrity, which is a completely foreign concept to mob boss Trump.
@Timber Rattler
That's funny!
BTW,both Stalin and Hitler had courage and integrity.
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So remind me again who's still in office as a U.S. Senator from Texas and who is wallowing in political exile as a disgraced ex-President?
Disgraced can mean so many different things in politics.
That disgraced ex-president is the guy who garnered 80 plus million votes in the 2020 presidential race, only to have it stolen from him. So, yeah, Trump’s not in office. But, I wouldn’t count him out if I were you. Trump 2024.
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@Timber Rattler
That's funny!
BTW,both Stalin and Hitler had courage and integrity.
So you're now invoking Godwin's Law into this discussion?
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Trump 2024.
Sooooo, assuming that Trump can somehow win the primaries in 2024 (a yuuuuuge IF), how do you think he plans to win the general since he has NO chance now of winning Pennsylvania, Michigan, Wisconsin, and probably Arizona, along with all the other usual blue states?
Face it, Trump is at a dead end. He will never be able to overcome the simple electoral math, especially since so many independents now despise him.
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I'm afraid He'll burn it all down rather than accept his defeat.
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Sooooo, assuming that Trump can somehow win the primaries in 2024 (a yuuuuuge IF), how do you think he plans to win the general since he has NO chance now of winning Pennsylvania, Michigan, Wisconsin, and probably Arizona, along with all the other usual blue states?
Face it, Trump is at a dead end. He will never be able to overcome the simple electoral math, especially since so many independents now despise him.
@Timber Rattler
Let's not forget that he is rude.
We need someone with good manners,like Jimmah Cawtur.
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I'm afraid He'll burn it all down rather than accept his defeat.
Likely
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Maybe 4 years of president Newsom would be worth the utter destruction of the GOP by Trump's own egomaniacal hands. :shrug:
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Maybe 4 years of president Newsom would be worth the utter destruction of the GOP by Trump's own egomaniacal hands. :shrug:
The problem with that is we all suffer
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The problem with that is we all suffer
That is, as ever, the fundamental problem.
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Sooooo, assuming that Trump can somehow win the primaries in 2024 (a yuuuuuge IF), how do you think he plans to win the general since he has NO chance now of winning Pennsylvania, Michigan, Wisconsin, and probably Arizona, along with all the other usual blue states?
The only Republican to break through the democrat blue wall is Donald J. Trump--- winning all states in question: Pennsylvania, Michigan, Wisconsin, Arizona in 2016. He did it al over again in 2020 where we were introduced to the new blue wall: the most effective and coordinated election and voter fraud in US history.
In 2020, the demonrats were ready for Trump's assured victory iin these states. It's why Trump haters turn a blind eye to election and voter fraud --- including today's ----- for them if it hurts Trump, it's a good thing.
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@Timber Rattler
Let's not forget that he is rude.
We need someone with good manners,like Jimmah Cawtur.
You're deflecting. Just answer the question...how does Trump win the 2024 general election when the electoral math is so harshly against him.
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The only Republican to break through the democrat blue wall is Donald J. Trump--- winning all states in question: Pennsylvania, Michigan, Wisconsin, Arizona in 2016. He did it al over again in 2020 where we were introduced to the new blue wall: the most effective and coordinated election and voter fraud in US history.
In 2020, the demonrats were ready for Trump's assured victory iin these states. It's why Trump haters turn a blind eye to election and voter fraud --- including today's ----- for them if it hurts Trump, it's a good thing.
That was in 2016. This will be in 2024. A lot has changed and a lot more independents despise Trump now. And the 2020 census and re-districting changed the entire political landscape across the country. So how does he win again?
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The only Republican to break through the democrat blue wall is Donald J. Trump--- winning all states in question: Pennsylvania, Michigan, Wisconsin, Arizona in 2016. He did it al over again in 2020 where we were introduced to the new blue wall: the most effective and coordinated election and voter fraud in US history.
In 2020, the demonrats were ready for Trump's assured victory iin these states. It's why Trump haters turn a blind eye to election and voter fraud --- including today's ----- for them if it hurts Trump, it's a good thing.
You don't seem to understand the frustration people now have with Trump. I live in probably the most pro-republican area of the country, truly the buckle of the Bible belt. True that some people are just as rabid as you and still blindly support Trump, BUT a rather large portion of his supporters (such as me), are just plain tired of him and want someone new. I don't think there are as many supporters left as you think there are.
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That was in 2016. This will be in 2024. A lot has changed and a lot more independents despise Trump now. And the 2020 census and re-districting changed the entire political landscape across the country. So how does he win again?
Hillary Clinton’s negatives were as high, if not higher, than Trump’s in 2016. And, Hillary Clinton had an open contempt for Middle America. Plus, the EC helped
Their strategy is banking on things getting so bad that by 2024, the rabble will be willing to vote anybody in just to be rid of Biden
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My Family, who were as Trumpian as the best here, don't discuss him anymore.
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Populism is a double-edged sword as History has taught us.
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@libertybele
Why WOULD he run,when chances are Trump will pick him for his VP,and he ends up spending 3 terms in the WH anyhow,with two of them as President?
Or he could just wait out the end of Trump's one term as the Gov of Florida,and THEN run?
He HAS to know that he runs against Trump it is going to cost him a LOT of the votes he would have gotten if he hadn't.
Mine will be one of them. I would vote Dim before I would vote for him if he does that.
So you would vote DEM just because DeSantis, a true conservative would run against Trump? Trump the Great Divider. He's already attacked DeSantis unprovoked without DeSantis even announcing he's running. Vote DEM @sneakypete Go for it.
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You're deflecting. Just answer the question...how does Trump win the 2024 general election when the electoral math is so harshly against him.
@Timber Rattler
The election math is only against him in the rabid minds of you and the other "Rude Orange Man Haters".
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You don't seem to understand the frustration people now have with Trump. I live in probably the most pro-republican area of the country, truly the buckle of the Bible belt. True that some people are just as rabid as you and still blindly support Trump, BUT a rather large portion of his supporters (such as me), are just plain tired of him and want someone new. I don't think there are as many supporters left as you think there are.
@mrpotatohead
Go ahead. Say "JEB". You KNOW you want to.
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So you would vote DEM just because DeSantis, a true conservative would run against Trump? T
@libertybele
You bet your senile old ass.
If we are going to have another violent revolution,let it happen while I am still able to take part.
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That was in 2016. This will be in 2024. A lot has changed and a lot more independents despise Trump now. And the 2020 census and re-districting changed the entire political landscape across the country. So how does he win again?
It's not the redistricting that has me concerned at the moment but rather the very likelihood that amnesty will be granted. So how will any GOP candidate win?
Election integrity? We're not even close.
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@libertybele
You bet your senile old ass.
If we are going to have another violent revolution,let it happen while I am still able to take part.
The only senile old ass is you; voting DEM against a conservative? Who said anything about a revolution???
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Hillary Clinton’s negatives were as high, if not higher, than Trump’s in 2016. And, Hillary Clinton had an open contempt for Middle America. Plus, the EC helped
Their strategy is banking on things getting so bad that by 2024, the rabble will be willing to vote anybody in just to be rid of Biden
Joe will have stepped down before that. Kamel will be president and they will tell her who to pick as VP. Michelle Obammy, Valerie Jarrett or Susan Rice. They will then make up the DEM ticket for '24 and it's going to be a tough one to beat. I'm laying odds it's Michelle, with a very popular ex-president at her side who would then become Second Gentleman.
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We are in for a World of Hurt, greater than we are currently experiencing, to let the GOP (as structured) to carry us forward. I'm torn between who should start a new Party, Trump or us Conservatives, Afterall Trump bought the GOP in 2016 for just a song and a Keystone Lite, the whores, as shall anybody else with a vision AND determination.
Maybe Trumpers can start their own Party~TOP, Trump Only Party.
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I'm laying odds it's Michelle, with a very popular ex-president at her side who would then become Second Gentleman.
Were was BHO popular? His average JAR was in the 40’s t/o his reign
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@libertybele
You bet your senile old ass.
If we are going to have another violent revolution,let it happen while I am still able to take part.
We’ll keep this post in mind while you lecture the rest of us who aren’t keen on Trump 2024…lol
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@Timber Rattler
The election math is only against him in the rabid minds of you and the other "Rude Orange Man Haters".
Rigggght....and that's why the Republican Party did sooooo well this past election?
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To say you wouldn’t vote for _____ because he challenges Trump for the nomination is to proclaim yourself a cult member. Nobody is owed the nomination. DeSantis in particular is anything but a DC insider. This is the most absurd argument emerging from the cult. He is well to the right of the party platform … if anything, this would be the challenge in getting him elected. True, his fundraising would be prolific, an ability sorely lacking in recent cycles.
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Rigggght....and that's why the Republican Party did sooooo well this past election?
Proving some have no hope without voter fraud.
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DeSantis in particular is anything but a DC insider.
As a top tier DC insider, no matter how desperately you want to believe this, you couldn't be more wrong if you had plotted a strategy.
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As a top tier DC insider, no matter how desperately you want to believe this, you couldn't be more wrong if you had plotted a strategy.
@Right_in_Virginia you keep implying that DeSantis is a DC insider, but I have yet to see any solid proof.
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@Right_in_Virginia you keep implying that DeSantis is a DC insider, but I have yet to see any solid proof.
I'm not implying it, I am stating it. I have presented proof ---- in fact you've argued wiith me over this several times on different threads.. Please @libertybele don't jump on me because you either don't remember or choose not to believe the information.
Just agree to disagree and move on.
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I'm not implying it, I am stating it. I have presented proof ---- in fact you've argued wiith me over this several times on different threads.. Please @libertybele don't jump on me because you either don't remember or choose not to believe the information.
Just agree to disagree and move on.
That's quite a weak argument and I am not jumping on you @Right_in_Virginia, I'm simply waiting for you to back up your statements with some proof. You haven't posted any valid information or proof that DeSantis is a DC insider.
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That's quite a weak argument and I am not jumping on you @Right_in_Virginia, I'm simply waiting for you to back up your statements with some proof. You haven't posted any valid information or proof that DeSantis is a DC insider.
I could repost everything, but you still won't like it and will conveniently forget it all over again. So please, just stop here.@libertybele
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I could repost everything, but you still won't like it and will conveniently forget it all over again. So please, just stop here.@libertybele
What a crock. It's pretty hard to conveniently forget when it was never posted. So yes, @Right_in_Virginia just stop.
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What a crock. It's pretty hard to conveniently forget when it was never posted.
Information was still posted and debated by you ------ even if your forgetfulness isn't "convienient' @libertybele :shrug:
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Information was still posted and debated by you ------ even if your forgetfulness isn't "convienient' @libertybele :shrug:
:thud: What a flippin' crock and you know it. Debates? No, rather I continue to ask for your proof. Hardly a debate.
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:thud: What a flippin' crock and you know it. Debates? No, rather I continue to ask for your proof. Hardly a debate.
You've brought this conversation to the bottom of the jackassery pit. @libertybele
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No actually you have and you know it. While I do find your attempts at gaslighting quite entertaining, I'm done. Move along @Right_in_Virginia :silly:
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Yeah, so what? I like Mike Pence too. He's got courage, and more importantly, integrity, which is a completely foreign concept to mob boss Trump.
??? Pence has integrity?? Please enlighten me.
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I could repost everything, but you still won't like it and will conveniently forget it all over again. So please, just stop here.@libertybele
@Right_in_Virginia Please post a link to the info so we all can see.
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@Right_in_Virginia Please post a link to the info so we all can see.
Most of it is on this thread IIRC @mrpotatohead perhaps a quick read through from the beginning is in order.
Edit to add: I have dismissed the entire Media wet dream premise (Trump vs DeSantis) so I'm not partaking of any of it.
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Most of it is on this thread IIRC @mrpotatohead perhaps a quick read through from the beginning is in order.
Edit to add: I have dismissed the entire Media wet dream premise (Trump vs DeSantis) so I'm not partaking of any of it.
Thanks @Bigun I'll try to find it.
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Rattler rattled off with:
"That was in 2016. This will be in 2024. A lot has changed"
Indeed.
The Party's "underground election apparatus" will be working better than ever in the critical states of Michigan, Wisconsin, Pennsylvania, Arizona (who just won the governorships in those four states?) and also Georgia.
More rattlin':
"the 2020 census and re-districting changed the entire political landscape across the country. So how does he win again?"
Not sure if he can, to be honest. I'd say no better than 50-50, and that's only if those on the right can sufficiently expose and thwart The Party's election apparatus in the above states.
But of one thing I'm CERTAIN:
Mr. Trump is perhaps the only Republican who can lead the fight to overcome the fraud machine in '24.
And he's still got the best chance of winning.
Mr. DeSantis... a long shot, but still possible.
The "rest of them"?
Furgheddaboutit.
Take 30 seconds to read my predictions, posted here on October 17, 2020:
http://www.gopbriefingroom.com/index.php/topic,417203.msg2305819.html#msg2305819
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??? Pence has integrity?? Please enlighten me.
He stood up to Trump, despite enormous pressure, and refused to intervene illegally in the formal counting and certifying of electoral votes on January 6, 2021, just so that Trump could illegally stay President.
But you knew that.
Pence details fracture with Trump over his refusal to overturn 2020 election in new book
https://www.cnn.com/2022/11/15/politics/mike-pence-book-trump-january-6
Vice President Refused to Leave Capitol Complex
https://www.nbcwashington.com/news/national-international/vice-president-refused-to-leave-capitol-complex/3079276/
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He stood up to Trump, despite enormous pressure, and refused to intervene illegally in the formal counting and certifying of electoral votes on January 6, 2021, just so that Trump could illegally stay President.
But you knew that.
Pence details fracture with Trump over his refusal to overturn 2020 election in new book
https://www.cnn.com/2022/11/15/politics/mike-pence-book-trump-january-6
Vice President Refused to Leave Capitol Complex
https://www.nbcwashington.com/news/national-international/vice-president-refused-to-leave-capitol-complex/3079276/
Just because Pence wrote a book doesn't mean its content is accurate. Secondly, the VP can't overturn an election. Cruz raised an objection during the process based on voter fraud allegations right before the insurrection and that objection was consequently never heard. Pence was in on the insurrection and you will never convince me otherwise that he wasn't.
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Pence was in on the insurrection and you will never convince me otherwise that he wasn't.
That's conspiracy theory nonsense.
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That's conspiracy theory nonsense.
Believe what you want.
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To say you wouldn’t vote for _____ because he challenges Trump for the nomination is to proclaim yourself a cult member. Nobody is owed the nomination. DeSantis in particular is anything but a DC insider. This is the most absurd argument emerging from the cult. He is well to the right of the party platform … if anything, this would be the challenge in getting him elected. True, his fundraising would be prolific, an ability sorely lacking in recent cycles.
Made worse by stating you'll vote for the Democrat ticket if Trump is not the nominee
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BTW,both Stalin and Hitler had courage and integrity.
Neither Stalin nor Hitler had integrity. And their courage was only from the point of a gun.
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As a top tier DC insider, no matter how desperately you want to believe this, you couldn't be more wrong if you had plotted a strategy.
Well, I suppose Paul Ryan would prefer DeSantis or anyone viable at this point. He’s tired of watching you people give elections to the left and then wallow in your persecution complex.
If you were honest you would admit that Donald Trump bathed himself in the swamp. We all lived through his mess of a term. Look at the people he chose. He exploded the debt by giving away helicopter cash to any business that would take it. He sainted Anthony Fauci and bloated the pharmaceutical industry. Lots of tax benefits for the corporations. The military-industrial complex was happier than ever. He wanted to give a few trillion to “infrastructure” contractors but his time ran out. And I’m certain that nothing inured to the benefit of he or his family, given his sense of ethics.
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Most of it is on this thread IIRC @mrpotatohead perhaps a quick read through from the beginning is in order.
Edit to add: I have dismissed the entire Media wet dream premise (Trump vs DeSantis) so I'm not partaking of any of it.
@Bigun
On this,you and I are in complete agreement. I see this as more of an argument kicked up by the DNC in order to cause friction between the Republican and the alleged Republican voters than anything real.
In FACT,the DNC is working hard with the RINO's to make it real.
The irony,from MY POV is the FACT that Trump really IS a "rude orange man",and instead of him being rude being seen as a negative,it needs to be seen as a positive because at this point in the life of America,a little rudeness is needed to replace the standard "you scracth my back and I'll scratch your back" "us against them" standard policy of the RNC and the DNC.
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He stood up to Trump,.....
@Timber Rattler
How RUDE of him!
His rudeness should automatically disqualify him!
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Neither Stalin nor Hitler had integrity. And their courage was only from the point of a gun.
@Hoodat
Stalin was a gutless punk,but Hitler actually won a wound badge and a badge for courage as an enlisted man in WW-1.
Yes,even evil villains CAN be courageous,and still be evil villains.
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@Right_in_Virginia Please post a link to the info so we all can see.
I've already done this a few times @mrpotatohead It shoud be easy enough for you to find. Thanks.
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@Right_in_Virginia Please post a link to the info so we all can see.
Good luck with that. It ain't gonna happen.
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The left wing are geniuses in the art of stiring shit up with conservatives that doesn't even exist at this point.
If we were half as good.
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Here's another poll:
"However Republicans, who will decide who their 2024 Presidential nominee is at the GOP convention, were evenly divided, 44% for Trump, and 44% for DeSantis"
"...the poll found that Republicans strongly support Trumps effort to become President again with 62% favoring his campaign, and 27% opposed."
https://www.wqcs.org/wqcs-news/2022-11-27/quinnipiac-poll-republicans-split-between-trump-vs-desantis
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Here's another poll:
"However Republicans, who will decide who their 2024 Presidential nominee is at the GOP convention, were evenly divided, 44% for Trump, and 44% for DeSantis"
"...the poll found that Republicans strongly support Trumps effort to become President again with 62% favoring his campaign, and 27% opposed."
https://www.wqcs.org/wqcs-news/2022-11-27/quinnipiac-poll-republicans-split-between-trump-vs-desantis
@BellyAche
But....,he is rude!
And Orange.
Must sum kinda mistake,huh?
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00drama
Has anyone checked the newest stripper pole?
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Good luck with that. It ain't gonna happen.
Three times is my limit ...... after that it's on you to find it. :tongue2:
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The left wing are geniuses in the art of stiring shit up with conservatives that doesn't even exist at this point.
If we were half as good.
A lot of this is a result of Trump’s hissy fit over DeSantis who hasn’t even shown any indication nor stated he wants to run for POTUS
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00drama
Has anyone checked the newest stripper pole?
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She’s overdressed
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Good luck with that. It ain't gonna happen.
Exactly. Nothing to see.