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Archives => Alternate Realities => Topic started by: Quix on October 23, 2016, 06:45:10 pm
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http://www.express.co.uk/news/world/724252/Russia-US-West-Cold-War-Vladimir-Putin-Aleppo-bombing-sanctions-nuclear
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RUSSIA has entered a new Cold War with the West that could lead to confrontations across the world, experts warn.
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By Sofia Delgado
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PUBLISHED: 13:29, Sun, Oct 23, 2016 | UPDATED: 15:13, Sun, Oct 23, 2016
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President Vladimir Putin has challenged American international hegemony with threats to retaliate against the US if the Aleppo bombing’s sanctions go ahead.
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Military and foreign policy experts in Moscow believe Russian President Vladimir Putin and western leaders are headed for a dangerous stand-off.
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Lt Gen Evgeny Buzhinsky, head of the think tank PIR centre, said: “If we talk about the last Cold War, we are currently somewhere between the erection of the Berlin Wall and the Cuban Missile crisis.”
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But deputy foreign minister Sergei Ryabkov said Moscow would take "asymmetrical and forceful measures" in return.
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According to reports Russia has already decided to cut off diplomatic ties with the US until a new leader is elected on November 8.
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Earlier this month a close ally to Putin claimed the US could face a nuclear war if Donald Trump loses the race.
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Decision to cut off ties came after US secretary of state John Kerry had cancelled coordination over Syria.
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That's an interesting assertion about war more likely with Shrillery.
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It's a pretty robust article. There's some videos embedded.
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Putin's comment that the confrontation is looming more from America's domineering attitude than because of Syria is also interesting.
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imho, it's all likely to be more KABUKI DANCE stuff from the oligarchy.
CERTAINLY the oligarchy has been setting up and planning WW3 for a long time. They want the depopulation aspect as well as the terror of it to coerce the surviving serfs and slaves into abject slave oriented obedience to their tyrannical one world government and one world religion.
Some say it will befall us before the end of this Dec. Others claim within weeks of Shrillery's inauguration. Others before the end of 2017.
Certainly it IS on the schedule. When, exactly, remains to be seen.
Some have claimed only a few nukes would be exchanged. I don't think so. I think the devastation will be massive.
Though, actually, if they caught the whole Congress in session and all the traitorous D.C. bureaucrats in the first strike . . . I don't know that I'd shed a lot of tears over that aspect.
Nevertheless, the bloody devastation and suffering on the part of 100's of millions . . . will be unprecedented whenever it is lit off.
And Shrillery's wailing about "for the children" is utter farce for her to blather. She doesn't care a gnat's fart's worth about the world's children. She's on board for exterminating masses of them without losing any sleep over it any more than she loses sleep over abortions.
I wonder what TBR's members think about the timing of looming WW3???
Or are there many who still doubt it's on the very real schedule and definitely will occur in our lifetime?
I have read arguments that TPTB don't want to get rid of so many consumers. Nonsense. The most critical issue for them is that they know it would be much more dicey to maintain their tyranny with a huge global population.
Money for them at this point is Monopoly money. Their drug of choice is POWER AND MORE POWER.
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Would they be doing this if they didn't think Hillary would win?
They remember what Bill did in Kosovo.
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Would they be doing this if they didn't think Hillary would win?
They remember what Bill did in Kosovo.
Interesting point. I'd forgotten about that.
I don't think they appreciated that. LOL.
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Maybe they want to do almost everything they can to discourage a Shrillery win. regardless of the probabilities.
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We've had reports out of Russia for more than a decade . . . some by western businessmen . . . that Russians openly speak of the looming/definite WW3 with the USA. That troop training etc. has been extensive, active and geared toward that as a certainty.
I don't think they have all been blowing smoke up Goofy's rear.
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I do not think WW3 is looming. I think Ezekiel 38 is looming
Russia's behavior and their alliance with Iran makes me think Iran now has a nuke(s) which it either made or purchased
They are likely to test it over Tel Aviv
Hence Russia is calling its people home and preparing for war based on Iran's likely attack on Israel (the "hook" in the jaw of Gog)
Fasten your seatbelts! The outcome of this election may not mean much. It might be all over by then.
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Couldn't it be both are looming?
Certainly. We could have both at the same time but the focus is and will be back on Israel, not the west. Scripture is fairly silent about the western nations other than a reference to fire sent to those on the coasts.... God's focus is on Israel in the last days. So much for most Americans thinking we are the center of the universe....
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Just in time for Christmas
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t039p6xqutU
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I wonder if Putin is trying to get Trump elected?
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Oh well.... I live a few miles from where some of our nuclear bombs are located, so I doubt I'll feel a thing.
I have a Ringside seat for WWIII with MAFB to the north and East, and silos starting about 40 miles away as the crow flies...
Ready as I'll never be...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yrbv40ENU_o (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yrbv40ENU_o)
All joking aside, I sincerely hope it doesn't come to that.
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Putin's goal in life is to defeat the US and rebuild the Soviet Union
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Thank goodness Hillary reset relations.
If things are good now imagine how much better they'll be after we establish a no fly zone in Syria.
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I do not think WW3 is looming. I think Ezekiel 38 is looming
Russia's behavior and their alliance with Iran makes me think Iran now has a nuke(s) which it either made or purchased
They are likely to test it over Tel Aviv
Hence Russia is calling its people home and preparing for war based on Iran's likely attack on Israel (the "hook" in the jaw of Gog)
Fasten your seatbelts! The outcome of this election may not mean much. It might be all over by then.
More than a little plausible, I think.
I read an interesting take on Ezek 38 . . . I forget the details. IIRC, left me thinking that maybe we didn't have it as figured out as some think we do.
Certainly Damascus is scheduled for utter obliteration.
I hope the Pope was wrong about not reaching another Christmas without chaos and great suffering--however he put it last year.
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Certainly. We could have both at the same time but the focus is and will be back on Israel, not the west. Scripture is fairly silent about the western nations other than a reference to fire sent to those on the coasts.... God's focus is on Israel in the last days. So much for most Americans thinking we are the center of the universe....
INDEED. Well put.
I strongly agree with those who have felt told of The Lord that WHEN the USA forces Israel to give land to the Palestinians, God will divide the USA wholesale via the New Madrid super quake making the Mississippi 300 miles wide in some places . . . and the Great Lakes emptying down the Mississippi . . .
That would mess a few truckers' routes up!
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I wonder if Putin is trying to get Trump elected?
I suspect that any world leader would rather deal with Trump than Shrillery . . . that is, anyone 1/1,000,000,000th aware of the facts and with a brain above that of a slug.
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Oh well.... I live a few miles from where some of our nuclear bombs are located, so I doubt I'll feel a thing.
Cue Dr Strangelove . . . and the riding the bomb down image . . .
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Putin's goal in life is to defeat the US and rebuild the Soviet Union
Plausible . . . though I believe he's almost as much of a globalist puppet as other leaders are.
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Thank goodness Hillary reset relations.
If things are good now imagine how much better they'll be after we establish a no fly zone in Syria.
Did you leave your sarcasm tag off?
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Did you leave your sarcasm tag off?
Yep.
I am a cynical man these days.
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Defense Ministers of Five NATO Countries
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Russian Defense Minister
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INDEED. Well put.
I strongly agree with those who have felt told of The Lord that WHEN the USA forces Israel to give land to the Palestinians, God will divide the USA wholesale via the New Madrid super quake making the Mississippi 300 miles wide in some places . . . and the Great Lakes emptying down the Mississippi . . .
That would mess a few truckers' routes up!
For starters...rail, pipelines, electrical transmission, telephone (even microwave towers would have to be realigned, and I'm not sure about the signal loss). Yep. That would make a mess all right.
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Plausible . . . though I believe he's almost as much of a globalist puppet as other leaders are.
Is there a bigger (higher level) mob boss than that one in Russia? Highly possible.
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Defense Ministers of Five NATO Countries
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Russian Defense Minister
Sober-faced bloke, ain't he!
Though . . . without vodka . . . aren't most Russian men rather sober-faced?
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Is there a bigger (higher level) mob boss than that one in Russia? Highly possible.
Given that . . .
1. The oligarchy installed the Communist government decades ago with Western banking money etc. etc. etc.
2. And, according to declassified CIA files in the last 5 years . . . evidently the CIA assured that Mao won the civil war in China . . .
3. And . . . assertions for a decade or 3 that all the major nations were well controlled by the oligarchy . . . my assumption is that Putin is, too . . . though from his personality, I think he chafe's under that control . . . and I suspect that Russia and China--at least China are going to be one of the 3 or so restive nations that escape the Anti-Christ's control when they can.
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Given that . . .
1. The oligarchy installed the Communist government decades ago with Western banking money etc. etc. etc.
2. And, according to declassified CIA files in the last 5 years . . . evidently the CIA assured that Mao won the civil war in China . . .
3. And . . . assertions for a decade or 3 that all the major nations were well controlled by the oligarchy . . . my assumption is that Putin is, too . . . though from his personality, I think he chafe's under that control . . . and I suspect that Russia and China--at least China are going to be one of the 3 or so restive nations that escape the Anti-Christ's control when they can.
Consider that Kaiser Wilhelm had Lenin sent from Switzerland to Russia during the First World War to destabilize his cousin's monarchy so the Romanov's (who were already having enough problems) would not be able to maintain an Eastern Front against the Germans.
It was wildly successful, as such programs go, and neither of the surviving monarchies (England nor German) would give the Romanovs sanctuary to live in exile. That thinned the Royal herd a bit.
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@Quix,
On nights when I can't sleep I sometimes listen to George Noory. He's had guests who are convinced it will happen in either 2017 or 2027.
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Russia & China
Gog & Magog
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Putin's goal in life is to defeat the US and rebuild the Soviet Union
Actually, I think he's more interested in reviving the old Russian Empire and not so much the Soviet Union.
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@Quix,
On nights when I can't sleep I sometimes listen to George Noory. He's had guests who are convinced it will happen in either 2017 or 2027.
Interesting. Thanks.
2027 . . . I'd be 80 years old . . . They are quite welcome to wait that long. LOL.
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Russia & China
Gog & Magog
One of those is a title.
Some scholars insist it refers to Turkish tribal groups.
However, the Scripture about 'uttermost north' (from Jerusalem) leaves little doubt that Moscow will be involved. And, some scholars have traced the tribal group(s) to Moscow.
China appears to be involved in the End Times . . . e.g. The King of the East . . . but the verses about Gog and Magog likely have nothing to do with China, imho.
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Consider that Kaiser Wilhelm had Lenin sent from Switzerland to Russia during the First World War to destabilize his cousin's monarchy so the Romanov's (who were already having enough problems) would not be able to maintain an Eastern Front against the Germans.
It was wildly successful, as such programs go, and neither of the surviving monarchies (England nor German) would give the Romanovs sanctuary to live in exile. That thinned the Royal herd a bit.
INDEED.
Though now . . . we have a whole new crop of oligarchic imperialists . . . and a RAGE-A-HOLIC QUEEN who considers it her UNdivine right to shred whomever she wishes on whatever whim because she's one of the elite . . . even though she's mostly a mid-level elite puppet.
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@Quix,
On nights when I can't sleep I sometimes listen to George Noory. He's had guests who are convinced it will happen in either 2017 or 2027.
They were also convinced it would be 2000, 2001, 2012 etc
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They were also convinced it would be 2000, 2001, 2012 etc
That's one of my reasons for skepticism.
HOWEVER, This year IS DIFFERENT
IN THAT
1. The Pope has made increasingly brazen comments about the critters and cast them in a very favorable light.
2. The William Tompkins rather startling disclosure book and the note that the oligarchy has given him permission to share his story . . . he's 93.
3. The Tom DeLonge narrative, project.
Those are 3 ?major? changes that SEEM to bespeak an incremental escalation toward disclosure.
Having studied the stuff since 1962 . . . my own sense is that SUCH FACTOIDS ARE significantly carrying the stuff toward a new level of disclosure/disinformation.
And, there's the commonly asserted factoid that the oligarchy has camps that are split and against each other on the issue of disclosure. Some parts may have been nudging toward disclosure with honest expectations of such . . . only to be later slapped down by a larger percentage of the oligarchy.