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Title: Reports: Truck runs into crowded Christmas market in Berlin
Post by: 240B on December 19, 2016, 07:53:24 pm
by The Associated Press Monday, December 19th 2016


BERLIN (AP)  — German media are reporting a truck has run into a crowded Christmas market in the center of Berlin, causing multiple injuries.


http://komonews.com/news/nation-world/reports-truck-runs-into-crowded-christmas-market-in-berlin
Title: Re: Reports: Truck runs into crowded Christmas market in Berlin
Post by: 240B on December 19, 2016, 08:00:53 pm

One confirmed dead.
50 injured.
Title: Re: Reports: Truck runs into crowded Christmas market in Berlin
Post by: Wingnut on December 19, 2016, 08:05:51 pm
A truck of peace.
Title: Re: Reports: Truck runs into crowded Christmas market in Berlin
Post by: txradioguy on December 19, 2016, 08:14:29 pm
A truck plowed into a crowded Christmas market in Berlin on Monday causing multiple injuries and possibly one fatality, according to German media.


Both the Berliner Zeitung newspaper and the Berliner Morgenpost reported the truck ran into the market outside the landmark Kaiser Wilhelm Memorial Church on Monday evening.

A photo posted by the Morgenpost showed damaged tables and stalls.

The Berliner Zeitung said police believed there to be multiple injuries, but police couldn't immediately be reached to confirm.

A policewoman reportedly told German media outlet Bild that there was at least one fatality.

Both newspapers reported it wasn't immediately clear whether the incident was an accident or some kind of an attack on the market.

http://www.foxnews.com/world/2016/12/19/report-truck-drives-into-crowded-christmas-market-in-berlin.html


 
Title: Re: Reports: Truck runs into crowded Christmas market in Berlin
Post by: Gefn on December 19, 2016, 08:15:22 pm
Looks like there is a climbing death toll - according to this headline on NBC news.

http://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/truck-plows-christmas-market-berlin-injuring-killing-multiple-people-n6979

"Truck Plows Into Christmas Market in Berlin, Injuring and Killing Multiple People"

CNN is also reporting "multiple people killed"
Title: Re: Reports: Truck runs into crowded Christmas market in Berlin
Post by: 240B on December 19, 2016, 08:19:27 pm

At least 9 dead now.
Driver escaped.
Title: Re: Reports: Truck runs into crowded Christmas market in Berlin
Post by: mystery-ak on December 19, 2016, 08:19:54 pm
Fox reporting 9 dead 50 injured and the driver is on the run
Title: Re: Reports: Truck runs into crowded Christmas market in Berlin
Post by: mystery-ak on December 19, 2016, 08:20:30 pm
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C0EIub5XgAAW0QA.jpg)
Reuters Top News ‏@Reuters 15m15 minutes ago

BREAKING: Several people killed and up to 50 injured after truck plows into Christmas market in Berlin: local media
Title: Re: Reports: Truck runs into crowded Christmas market in Berlin
Post by: mystery-ak on December 19, 2016, 08:23:03 pm
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C0ELbzfUkAAOrSY.jpg)
Title: Re: Reports: Truck runs into crowded Christmas market in Berlin
Post by: TomSea on December 19, 2016, 08:26:52 pm
CNN has up 9 dead.

http://www.cnn.com/2016/12/19/europe/berlin-christmas-market-truck/index.html?adkey=bn
Title: Re: Reports: Truck runs into crowded Christmas market in Berlin
Post by: mystery-ak on December 19, 2016, 08:28:05 pm
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C0EN20aXgAAI7WR.jpg)
Title: Re: Reports: Truck runs into crowded Christmas market in Berlin
Post by: Lando Lincoln on December 19, 2016, 08:31:49 pm
Dear God.  All I am left to do at this moment is...

pray.
Title: Re: Reports: Truck runs into crowded Christmas market in Berlin
Post by: TomSea on December 19, 2016, 08:33:16 pm
What a tragedy, my heartfelt prayers for all of the victims and their families.
Title: Re: Reports: Truck runs into crowded Christmas market in Berlin
Post by: musiclady on December 19, 2016, 08:38:05 pm
Dear God.  All I am left to do at this moment is...

pray.

It's probably the most important thing we can do.

The world's a complete mess....    **nononono*
Title: Re: Reports: Truck runs into crowded Christmas market in Berlin
Post by: TomSea on December 19, 2016, 08:41:23 pm
And the same thing happened in Germany,

There have been so many of these attacks in the last few days.
Title: Re: Reports: Truck runs into crowded Christmas market in Berlin
Post by: txradioguy on December 19, 2016, 08:42:12 pm
My wife and I were talking before we left Germany last summer that the Christmas markets would be a prime target for terrorism this year.

Assuming that's what it is in this instance looks like my prediction sadly came true.
Title: Re: Reports: Truck runs into crowded Christmas market in Berlin
Post by: mystery-ak on December 19, 2016, 08:43:27 pm
Breitbart London ‏@BreitbartLondon 2m2 minutes ago

UPDATE: Suspect arrested near #Berlin Zoo
Title: Re: Reports: Truck runs into crowded Christmas market in Berlin
Post by: mystery-ak on December 19, 2016, 08:47:24 pm
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C0ER41jXcAAnGq2.jpg)
Title: Re: Reports: Truck runs into crowded Christmas market in Berlin
Post by: 240B on December 19, 2016, 08:48:53 pm

Two terrorists in the truck.
Driver is captured.
Passenger was shot and killed.
Title: Re: Reports: Truck runs into crowded Christmas market in Berlin
Post by: mountaineer on December 19, 2016, 08:49:16 pm
My wife and I were talking before we left Germany last summer that the Christmas markets would be a prime target for terrorism this year.

Assuming that's what it is in this instance looks like my prediction sadly came true.
That's a safe bet: lots of people in a relatively small space (a city block, a town square, etc.) celebrating an infidel holiday. No jihadist could resist.  **nononono*
Title: Re: Reports: Truck runs into crowded Christmas market in Berlin
Post by: mirraflake on December 19, 2016, 09:25:36 pm
We had dinner with some Germans last year at my wife's  continuing education meeting.  Don't trust what the media or their leaders say about Germans laying down and taking this.

We spoke with people with advanced degrees and highly educated and they said the German people, including themselves,  are near their breaking point and ready to go Nazi/SS on the Muslims and not just due to terror attacks.
Title: Re: Reports: Truck runs into crowded Christmas market in Berlin
Post by: Sanguine on December 19, 2016, 10:03:05 pm
Prayers are always in order.

Frau Merkel may have to deport a token few more incipient jihadis to placate the populace.  But, if @mirraflake's acquaintances are correct, it may take real action. 
Title: Re: Reports: Truck runs into crowded Christmas market in Berlin
Post by: Gov Bean Counter on December 19, 2016, 11:39:57 pm
CBS correspondent who was at the scene said it looked like an accident th her. I kid you not.
Title: Re: Reports: Truck runs into crowded Christmas market in Berlin
Post by: TomSea on December 20, 2016, 12:04:54 am
The Sun is reporting the suspect taken into custody is Pakistani.

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/2437904/lorry-crashes-christmas-market-berlin/

So, I'm not sure if someone said it here, it sounds like the truck was hijacked by the suspect.
Title: Re: Reports: Truck runs into crowded Christmas market in Berlin
Post by: 240B on December 20, 2016, 12:47:55 am
In any incident like this, in America or in anywhere in Europe, the longer the authorities wait to release the names of the people involved, the more you can be sure they are Muslims.
Title: Re: Reports: Truck runs into crowded Christmas market in Berlin
Post by: Sanguine on December 20, 2016, 12:48:39 am
In any incident like this, in America or in anywhere in Europe, the longer the authorities wait to release the names of the people involved, the more you can be sure they are Muslims.

True dat.
Title: Re: Reports: Truck runs into crowded Christmas market in Berlin
Post by: Wingnut on December 20, 2016, 12:50:14 am
In any incident like this, in America or in anywhere in Europe, the longer the authorities wait to release the names of the people involved, the more you can be sure they are Muslims.

QFT
Title: Re: Reports: Truck runs into crowded Christmas market in Berlin
Post by: 240B on December 20, 2016, 01:00:34 am
I hate when the press releases statements like, "There are nine dead at the scene." and they do not mention until later that one of the 'nine' they are referring to is one of the terrorists. So, there were really only eight actual human beings killed, plus one filthy terrorist.
Title: Re: Reports: Truck runs into crowded Christmas market in Berlin
Post by: dfwgator on December 20, 2016, 01:06:16 am
Too bad Frau Merkel wasn't there.
Title: Re: Reports: Truck runs into crowded Christmas market in Berlin
Post by: TomSea on December 20, 2016, 01:15:22 am
I hate when the press releases statements like, "There are nine dead at the scene." and they do not mention until later that one of the 'nine' they are referring to is one of the terrorists. So, there were really only eight actual human beings killed, plus one filthy terrorist.

Actually maybe not in this case because it sounds like this truck was carjacked off the street, the passenger killed was a Pole, originally he was the driver, the carjacker a Pakistani who got control of the wheel. What happened between the two we don't know but he was the dead passenger. I wonder if the Pakistani could have carjacked and pushed the guy over to the passenger seat and drove crazy? I don't know if the Paki had a gun or knift but all of this is to be told still. The dead passenger might well be another victim.
Title: Re: Reports: Truck runs into crowded Christmas market in Berlin
Post by: TomSea on December 20, 2016, 01:16:20 am
The Pakistan driver seems to be in custody now. The only people killed may have all have been his victims.
Title: Re: Reports: Truck runs into crowded Christmas market in Berlin
Post by: skeeter on December 20, 2016, 01:24:18 am
Stayed in a hotel nearby Kaiser Wilhelm Church. Its now a monument, having been partially demolished in WWII. Ironic spot for a terrorist attack.
Title: Re: Reports: Truck runs into crowded Christmas market in Berlin
Post by: TomSea on December 20, 2016, 01:30:53 am
BBC has the death toll up to 12; sad that it seemed a matter of time before an attack like this was going to happen in Germany.

"Berlin Breitscheidplatz: Lorry kills 12 at Christmas market"
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-38373867
Title: Re: Reports: Truck runs into crowded Christmas market in Berlin
Post by: TomSea on December 20, 2016, 01:41:58 am
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Truck that ploughed through Berlin Christmas market was STOLEN from a construction site, police reveal

    Truck drove into busy square in Berlin today killing nine and injuring 50 people
    Eyewitnesses say it was deliberate and police are investigating if it was terrorist
    But registered driver's firm owner says he has 'total confidence' it was not him
    They lost contact hours before and police have now confirmed truck was stolen

By James Dunn For Mailonline

Published: 16:59 EST, 19 December 2016 | Updated: 20:28 EST, 19 December 2016

The 25-tonne truck that killed 12 people and injured 48 as it careered through a Christmas market in Berlin had been stolen from a construction site, police have revealed.

The suspect thought to have been driving - believed to be a refugee - was arrested shortly after the tragedy at a nearby zoo, while another unidentified man was found dead in the cab.

The arrest fuels fears for the Polish man who was registered as the driver, as his firm's owner said he had 'total confidence' he was not behind the wheel during the Nice-style massacre this afternoon.

- http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4049822/Was-truck-HIJACKED-Cousin-driver-registered-Polish-lorry-claims-making-drop-Berlin-s-revealed-haulage-firm-lost-contact-moments-crash.html

Needless to say, we don't know all of the facts yet.
Title: Re: Reports: Truck runs into crowded Christmas market in Berlin
Post by: musiclady on December 20, 2016, 02:41:28 am
Stayed in a hotel nearby Kaiser Wilhelm Church. Its now a monument, having been partially demolished in WWII. Ironic spot for a terrorist attack.

I sang in two separate concerts at Kaiser Wilhelm Kirche, in the late 60's and early 70's.  Berlin was behind the Iron Curtain at the time, and we had to travel through East Germany to get there, and later went through Checkpoint Charlie to travel further into East Germany.

The first time I was only 18 years old, and it seared into my brain the amazing country I was born and raised in, and the significant superiority of Capitalism to Communism.
Title: Re: Reports: Truck runs into crowded Christmas market in Berlin
Post by: cato potatoe on December 20, 2016, 03:17:10 am
Whatever comes of this, we can take comfort in knowing that a religion founded by a jihadist is peaceful.  And that's important, because Germany now has a million new adherents, and they've got em forever.
Title: Re: Reports: Truck runs into crowded Christmas market in Berlin
Post by: rangerrebew on December 20, 2016, 01:01:56 pm
Berlin Police: We Caught The Wrong Person, Attacker Still At Large
Jacob Bojesson
Foreign Correspondent
7:45 AM 12/20/2016
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Berlin Police said the 23-year-old asylum seeker in custody after the attack on the Christmas market in Berlin Monday is not the truck driver, Die Welt reported Tuesday.

The attacker remains at large and is believed to be armed and dangerous, police said.

“We have the wrong man, and thus a new situation,” police said in a statement. “The capital’s preparedness police and the special forces have been informed.”

Read more: http://dailycaller.com/2016/12/20/berlin-police-we-caught-the-wrong-person-attacker-still-at-large/#ixzz4TNnekQMk
Title: Re: Reports: Truck runs into crowded Christmas market in Berlin
Post by: rangerrebew on December 20, 2016, 01:03:19 pm
Merkel: ‘Particularly Painful’ If Refugee Was Behind Berlin Massacre
Jacob Bojesson
Foreign Correspondent
7:43 AM 12/20/2016
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German Chancellor Angela Merkel attends a news conference in Berlin, Germany, April 6, 2016. REUTERS/Hannibal Hanschke/File Photo   German Chancellor Angela Merkel attends a news conference in Berlin, Germany, April 6, 2016. REUTERS/Hannibal Hanschke/File Photo

German Chancellor Angela Merkel thinks Monday’s terror attack on a Christmas market in Berlin is particularly painful if the perpetrator “came to Germany for protection and asylum.”

Merkel said she was “horrified, shaken and deeply saddened” in her first remarks after the attack, which killed at least 12 people and injured 48. Naved B., a 23-year-old Pakistani asylum seeker was arrested on suspicion of being the truck driver, but now Berlin police are saying they reportedly detained the wrong person, and the attacker is still at large. Naved B. is one of 1.2 million refugees who have arrived in Germany since the start of 2015.

Read more: http://dailycaller.com/2016/12/20/merkel-particularly-painful-if-refugee-was-behind-berlin-massacre/#ixzz4TNo0GqMS
Title: Re: Reports: Truck runs into crowded Christmas market in Berlin
Post by: rangerrebew on December 20, 2016, 01:04:59 pm
Maybe the police are trying to help Frau Merkel with the "pain" by announcing they have caught the wrong person.  I wonder if we will suddenly discover the "right" person is European? :pondering:
Title: Re: Reports: Truck runs into crowded Christmas market in Berlin
Post by: Sanguine on December 20, 2016, 02:25:30 pm
Hmmm.  What do you think the chances are?
Title: Re: Reports: Truck runs into crowded Christmas market in Berlin
Post by: r9etb on December 20, 2016, 02:33:37 pm
“We have the wrong man, and thus a new situation,” police said in a statement. “The capital’s preparedness police and the special forces have been informed.”

Ouch.
Title: Re: Reports: Truck runs into crowded Christmas market in Berlin
Post by: Cripplecreek on December 20, 2016, 02:40:33 pm
Ouch.

I don't understand how it could happen that they would lose the suspect. If the photos I saw were from this incident, somebody managed to pump a lot of rounds through the windshield of that truck.
Title: Re: Reports: Truck runs into crowded Christmas market in Berlin
Post by: sneakypete on December 20, 2016, 02:45:06 pm
Merkel: ‘Particularly Painful’ If Refugee Was Behind Berlin Massacre
Jacob Bojesson
Foreign Correspondent
7:43 AM 12/20/2016
1
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German Chancellor Angela Merkel attends a news conference in Berlin, Germany, April 6, 2016. REUTERS/Hannibal Hanschke/File Photo   German Chancellor Angela Merkel attends a news conference in Berlin, Germany, April 6, 2016. REUTERS/Hannibal Hanschke/File Photo

German Chancellor Angela Merkel thinks Monday’s terror attack on a Christmas market in Berlin is particularly painful if the perpetrator “came to Germany for protection and asylum.”



@rangerrebewrebew 

IOW,she's more concerned about her political career and payoffs form letting Muslims into Germany than she is people being murdered by them.
Title: Re: Reports: Truck runs into crowded Christmas market in Berlin
Post by: Gefn on December 20, 2016, 02:46:56 pm
Ms. Merkel, wake up and smell the coffee.
Title: Re: Reports: Truck runs into crowded Christmas market in Berlin
Post by: r9etb on December 20, 2016, 02:56:40 pm
I don't understand how it could happen that they would lose the suspect. If the photos I saw were from this incident, somebody managed to pump a lot of rounds through the windshield of that truck.

Apparently the guy ran away and wasn't caught immediately.  So if they found somebody who seemed to match the description, there's always the chance that he wasn't the real culprit.
Title: Re: Reports: Truck runs into crowded Christmas market in Berlin
Post by: Maj. Bill Martin on December 20, 2016, 03:12:28 pm
I don't understand how it could happen that they would lose the suspect. If the photos I saw were from this incident, somebody managed to pump a lot of rounds through the windshield of that truck.

Well, if you consider who apparently was in charge of the investigation....

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Title: Re: Reports: Truck runs into crowded Christmas market in Berlin
Post by: TomSea on December 20, 2016, 05:48:44 pm
There must be real mass confusion at one of these types of sites. Nice was even worse. Personally, I can envision scenarios where in the chaos, one could take off out of the truck and book it. Run off in other words.
Title: Re: Reports: Truck runs into crowded Christmas market in Berlin
Post by: mirraflake on December 20, 2016, 05:49:32 pm
I just read this on a comments section of a European newspaper.  I suspect the Europeans will be not as PC correct as they have been.

Build new shower blocks using old plans and huge ovens, tag it  The 70 Virgins Express.
Title: Re: Reports: Truck runs into crowded Christmas market in Berlin
Post by: Gefn on December 20, 2016, 06:24:40 pm
BBC just reported they released the suspect due to insufficient evidence.

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-38385961
Title: Re: Reports: Truck runs into crowded Christmas market in Berlin
Post by: Gefn on December 20, 2016, 06:27:55 pm
BBC is reporting suspect is let go due to insuffiencent evidence.

 http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-38385961

Title: Re: Reports: Truck runs into crowded Christmas market in Berlin
Post by: Idaho_Cowboy on December 20, 2016, 06:37:20 pm
I heard on the radio this morning that the Germans can't or won't release the name of the guy they are after and Interpol is having a cow about it.  :shrug:
Guess they really don't want to catch him if that's true.
Title: Re: Reports: Truck runs into crowded Christmas market in Berlin
Post by: rangerrebew on December 20, 2016, 07:33:14 pm
Berlin can expect more.  I read somewhere this A.M. that Berlin has been voted the best and happiest place for gays to live in the world.  That information won't be appreciated by the "refugees." :osama:
Title: Re: Reports: Truck runs into crowded Christmas market in Berlin
Post by: rangerrebew on December 20, 2016, 07:37:55 pm
Berlin can expect more.  I read somewhere this A.M. that Berlin has been voted the best and happiest place for gays to live in the world.  That information won't be appreciated by the "refugees." :osama:

I found it, again.

The Top 10
Gay Cities in the World

Islands like Mykonos and Lesbos have long been top gay destinations for some fun in the sun among gays and lesbians. But gay travelers no longer have to escape to island paradises to have a gay old time. Cities are now the favorite places to go, with so many of them having predominantly gay neighborhoods offering urban pleasures, gay hotels and nightlife, all profiting from "pink money." These are the ten gayest of them all, where you can find rainbow flags flying high:

http://www.ucityguides.com/cities/top-10-gay-cities-and-gayest-destinations.html
Title: Re: Reports: Truck runs into crowded Christmas market in Berlin
Post by: Gefn on December 20, 2016, 07:44:00 pm
Islamic state claims responsibility for attack according to breaking Reuters story


http://www.reuters.com/article/us-germany-truck-claims-idUSKBN1492G8?il=0
Title: Re: Reports: Truck runs into crowded Christmas market in Berlin
Post by: Gefn on December 20, 2016, 07:46:16 pm
Islamic state is claiming responsibility - breaking on Reuters

http://www.reuters.com/article/us-germany-truck-claims-idUSKBN1492G8?il=0
Title: Re: Reports: Truck runs into crowded Christmas market in Berlin
Post by: rangerrebew on December 20, 2016, 08:00:25 pm
@rangerrebewrebew 

IOW,she's more concerned about her political career and payoffs form letting Muslims into Germany than she is people being murdered by them.

Do you think she may be distantly related to Madam Clinton? :silly:
Title: Re: Reports: Truck runs into crowded Christmas market in Berlin
Post by: geronl on December 20, 2016, 08:45:41 pm
I guess she likes and trusts these invaders more than she does her own people, that is why it would be "particularly painful"
Title: Re: Reports: Truck runs into crowded Christmas market in Berlin
Post by: truth_seeker on December 20, 2016, 08:51:01 pm
Do you think she may be distantly related to Madam Clinton? :silly:

She is very clearly related to Clinton politically.

Both have advocated for MORE and MORE Islamic refugees, even when many realize they bring terrorism.
Title: Re: Reports: Truck runs into crowded Christmas market in Berlin
Post by: mountaineer on December 20, 2016, 11:23:13 pm
Maybe the police are trying to help Frau Merkel with the "pain" by announcing they have caught the wrong person.  I wonder if we will suddenly discover the "right" person is European? :pondering:
I'd wager that would be extremely helpful,  from Merkel's and Obammy's point of view.
Title: Re: Reports: Truck runs into crowded Christmas market in Berlin
Post by: DCPatriot on December 20, 2016, 11:37:04 pm
If they've released him...it's only in a 'physical' sense.

They're betting he will lead them to more of his buddies.   :shrug:
Title: Re: Reports: Truck runs into crowded Christmas market in Berlin
Post by: Idaho_Cowboy on December 20, 2016, 11:54:26 pm
If they've released him...it's only in a 'physical' sense.

They're betting he will lead them to more of his buddies.   :shrug:
Let's hope so. If they don't, they need to put the Keystone cops in charge.
Title: Re: Reports: Truck runs into crowded Christmas market in Berlin
Post by: sneakypete on December 21, 2016, 12:15:54 am
Do you think she may be distantly related to Madam Clinton? :silly:

@rangerrebew

Same species of critter.
Title: Re: Reports: Truck runs into crowded Christmas market in Berlin
Post by: dfwgator on December 21, 2016, 12:50:54 am
Berlin can expect more.  I read somewhere this A.M. that Berlin has been voted the best and happiest place for gays to live in the world.  That information won't be appreciated by the "refugees." :osama:

Anyone who watched "Cabaret" would know Berlin has always been a gay mecca.
Title: Re: Reports: Truck runs into crowded Christmas market in Berlin
Post by: Gefn on December 21, 2016, 01:25:07 am
Anyone who watched "Cabaret" would know Berlin has always been a gay mecca.
How about Lou Reed's album "Berlin"?
Title: Re: Reports: Truck runs into crowded Christmas market in Berlin
Post by: TomSea on December 21, 2016, 01:50:00 am
How about Lou Reed's album "Berlin"?

How about it? It's a great album. "In Berlin by the wall", I've heard it a lot.

But probably others by him have more gay stuff in it.
Title: Re: Reports: Truck runs into crowded Christmas market in Berlin
Post by: Fishrrman on December 21, 2016, 03:34:08 am
dfwgator wrote:
"Anyone who watched "Cabaret" would know Berlin has always been a gay mecca."

That's why Christopher Isherwood (a homosexual) went to Berlin, and later wrote "The Berlin Stories" based on his experiences.

The Berlin Stories provided the background for the film...
Title: Re: Reports: Truck runs into crowded Christmas market in Berlin
Post by: goatprairie on December 21, 2016, 04:59:41 am
These inevitable attacks by unassimilable cretins proves how dangerous liberals are when they have power. Merkel and the other clowns imported the thugs really believing the savages could be civilized.  Unless Islam is destroyed as a political power these types of things will occur over and over again.
But liberals are congenitally unable to learn their lesson.
 It would be one thing if it was a small, isolated portion of the world where these crimes were happening, but this is Europe. Liberals will destroy European civilization under the ruinous belief in multiculturalism and egalitarianism. They are as evil as the Islamic bacillus they've introduced to Europe.
Title: Re: Reports: Truck runs into crowded Christmas market in Berlin
Post by: rangerrebew on December 21, 2016, 12:16:17 pm
German government 'has lost control of the situation'
Berlin terrorist 'on the loose' indicates presence of active cell


Germany has been in a state up upheaval for months, growing more restive with each new terrorist attack. And there have been many.

But mowing down families gathered for a traditional Christmas market in Berlin may be the final breaking point for Chancellor Angela Merkel’s government.

She is seeking re-election next year to a fourth term, and some are calling for her to withdraw her candidacy after Monday’s jihad attack against a Christmas market in which a man killed 12 and injured 48 after hijacking a tractor-trailer and steering it into crowds of people sipping wine and shopping at festive crafts and jewelry booths.

Read more at http://www.wnd.com/2016/12/german-government-has-lost-control-of-the-situation/#9hE2QruGqV3OMKox.99
Title: Re: Reports: Truck runs into crowded Christmas market in Berlin
Post by: Gefn on December 21, 2016, 01:02:46 pm
How about it? It's a great album. "In Berlin by the wall", I've heard it a lot.

But probably others by him have more gay stuff in it.

It's one of my favorite albums. I don't think there's anything gay in it. It's just one of my favorite albums. Depressing as all hell though.
Title: Re: Reports: Truck runs into crowded Christmas market in Berlin
Post by: skeeter on December 21, 2016, 01:39:46 pm
This is were governing by "compassion" alone takes a country.

Will we learn from it? No we won't.
Title: Re: Reports: Truck runs into crowded Christmas market in Berlin
Post by: Cripplecreek on December 21, 2016, 02:16:51 pm
It's one of my favorite albums. I don't think there's anything gay in it. It's just one of my favorite albums. Depressing as all hell though.

Lots of very popular music came out about the fall of the Berlin wall.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5KcRl1p2waM

Title: Re: Reports: Truck runs into crowded Christmas market in Berlin
Post by: Gefn on December 21, 2016, 02:20:34 pm
I heard Pink Floyd did a concert there on the site of the Berlin Wall. The crowd went crazy when they yelled "tear down the wall".

I corrected myself - both novels I named were about Dresden. Not Berlin. Big brain fart. I must have taken a stupid pill this morning
Title: Re: Reports: Truck runs into crowded Christmas market in Berlin
Post by: Cripplecreek on December 21, 2016, 02:31:13 pm
I heard Pink Floyd did a concert there on the site of the Berlin Wall. The crowd went crazy when they yelled "tear down the wall".

Also some great literature, I'm thinking of "slaughterhouse Five" and "Amageddon " by Leon Uris.

Liberals are funny.

They don't understand that it was their ideology that built the wall. I attribute it to why Kurt Vonnegut went nuts. He wrote dystopian horror stories about te very ideology he personally supported.

Liberals got all excited about te V for Vendetta flick and how it trashed conservatives but I watched it and saw lots of liberal behavior. He kidnapped the girl, tortured and abused her into becoming his ally and that's supposed to be heroic?
Title: Re: Reports: Truck runs into crowded Christmas market in Berlin
Post by: Sanguine on December 21, 2016, 02:31:15 pm
This is were governing by "compassion" alone takes a country.

Will we learn from it? No we won't.

One-sided compassion.  Frau Merkel has had absolutely no compassion for the little people - the men and (mostly) women who would predictably be impacted by her actions.  No compassion whatsoever.  In fact, it's almost as if she hates them.
Title: Re: Reports: Truck runs into crowded Christmas market in Berlin
Post by: mountaineer on December 21, 2016, 03:26:30 pm
Latest:
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Officials hunt for Tunisian asylum-seeker in Berlin Christmas market rampage
Kim Hjelmgaard , USA TODAY 10:13 a.m. EST December 21, 2016

BERLIN — German authorities scoured the nation and other European countries Wednesday for a Tunisian asylum seeker who is being sought in the truck rampage through a Christmas festival here that killed 12 people and injured 48.

Investigators don't know if there is more than one perpetrator at large. The new suspect emerged after police found documents in the truck belonging to a 24-year-old Tunisian national identified only as Anis A, the German magazine Spiegel reported on its website. Some media reported that he is 21 years old.

A Tunisian official told the Associated Press the suspect's full name is Anis Amri.

Interior Minister Thomas de Maiziere confirmed that authorities are seeking a new suspect, but gave no details about the suspect's identity. He said the search extended to other countries in Europe's border free zone.

"This is a suspect, not necessarily the perpetrator. We are still investigating in all directions," de Maiziere said.

German lawmaker Stephan Mayer said after being briefed by security officials Wednesday that the new suspect, whose wallet was found in the truck, is thought to be Tunisian with links to Islamic extremists. He said the man was apparently supposed to be deported from Germany earlier in the year. ....
Full story at USA Today (http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/world/2016/12/21/berlin-christmas-market-attacker/95691012/).
Title: Re: Reports: Truck runs into crowded Christmas market in Berlin
Post by: TomSea on December 21, 2016, 03:29:25 pm
Latest:Full story at USA Today (http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/world/2016/12/21/berlin-christmas-market-attacker/95691012/).

I just heard about this too.

http://www.cnn.com/2016/12/21/europe/berlin-christmas-market-truck/index.html?adkey=bn

Man was arrested with forged documents, judge let him go.
Title: Re: Reports: Truck runs into crowded Christmas market in Berlin
Post by: mountaineer on December 21, 2016, 03:32:05 pm
Here we go again – but this time, Je suis Berlin
Douglas Murray
 20 December 2016  10:09 PM
Spectator (U.K.) (http://blogs.spectator.co.uk/2016/12/go-time-je-suis-berlin/) - excerpted
Quote
Well the year isn’t finished, but thanks to what looks to be the combination of the world’s most peaceable religion, a truck and a temptingly bustling Christmas market in Berlin I’m going to have reprise my most frequently written piece of recent years. So here we go again.

On Monday night a truck was driven into a busy pedestrian area in Berlin. In the immediate aftermath the media were understandably wary. It could be a Glasgow-like accident or it could be a deliberate act. Struggling with this conundrum the BBC plumped for ‘Lorry kills nine at Christmas market.’ Naughty lorry.

To date the attack still doesn’t have a hashtag that’s stuck. There was an early push for ‘Ich bin ein Berliner’, but for some reason it didn’t catch. Perhaps it would be better to simply add Berlin to that growing list of cities we are meant to urge other people to ‘pray’ for (Paris, Brussels, Paris again, Orlando, etc, etc.)?

Happily for some, there was a glimmer of hope on Monday night when it transpired that the guilty truck had a Polish number plate and a Polish registered driver. But then it turned out that the Polish truck appeared to have been hijacked and the driver was lying dead in the truck with a bullet wound to the head among other mortal injuries so he couldn’t easily be blamed. You almost felt bad for all the ‘anti-fascist’ groups gearing up to blame all Poles, white people in general or perhaps Donald Trump supporters in particular for their nascent racism, poor driving and the like. Alas they had to look away. For it soon appeared that the suspect was a Pakistani migrant who arrived in Germany last year. At this stage any normal person would ask why a Pakistani migrant should have ended up in Germany in 2015. Were there too few Pakistani migrants already in Germany? Did the country need more? And why Pakistan? Is the country a war-zone like Bangladesh, Afghanistan, Syria, Iraq, Eritrea, Nigeria, Morocco and Burma, to name just a few of the countries that Europeans have been told are our responsibility and whose populations as a result deserve assisted passage into our continent?  ...

At the present moment the Pakistani migrant has been released and seems to have been arrested because he ‘fitted the description’ of the attacker. Meanwhile Isis, or ‘so-called Islamic State’ or ‘so-called Islamic, so-called State’ as our broadcasters and media like to call the terror organisation, has claimed responsibility for the attack. We shall see whether this was directed or inspired by them.

If it is then we will all have to watch out closely for the swiftly ensuing ‘Muslim good news story’. I haven’t seen one yet.  ...

All this is not to say that the political class will not go into action. If this does prove to be an Islamist attack then in the coming days I would expect Angela Merkel to reiterate her recent call to ‘ban the burka’. The Dutch Prime Minister, Mark Rutte, will also doubtless once again back up this call. Meantime, most of the candidates for the French Presidency will publicly ponder whether the Berlin attack might have been stopped if the driver of the lorry had been banned from wearing a burkini.

At the same time the non-violent Islamists who work in European politics and the media will insist that we look at the root causes which make people drive trucks through Christmas markets in Berlin (‘Islamophobia’, Germany’s brutal foreign policy, trucks of certain designs) while non-Muslim commentators who haven’t paid attention over recent decades will insist that we find out ‘what the terrorists want’, with the unmentioned follow-on that once we work this out we can give them some of it. So drive enough trucks into crowds and sooner or later we can whittle down the number of Christmas markets, Jews, gays, polytheists, etc.

Of course for the foreseeable future anybody suggesting that importing millions more Muslims into Europe isn’t wise will continue to be regarded as a way-out-there crank who is in a very real sense actually causing the trucks to go into the Christmas markets. Leading us back once again to the logical conclusion that the only respectable response to importing millions of Muslims into Europe is to import millions more Muslims into Europe.
Title: Re: Reports: Truck runs into crowded Christmas market in Berlin
Post by: Restored on December 21, 2016, 03:45:20 pm
I think the phrase the liberals will use(without using it) is "acceptable losses". So long as the "numbers" stay relatively low, they will not elicit much of a response. Drop the matter quickly.

Remember, the narrative is that these are Syrian families fleeing a war. Families don't commit terrorist acts therefore.......

Aside: One of the Syrian families was placed in our small town.
Title: Re: Reports: Truck runs into crowded Christmas market in Berlin
Post by: Sanguine on December 21, 2016, 03:46:51 pm
Here we go again – but this time, Je suis Berlin
Douglas Murray
 20 December 2016  10:09 PM
Spectator (U.K.) (http://blogs.spectator.co.uk/2016/12/go-time-je-suis-berlin/) - excerpted

That is brutal, @mountaineer.  Great piece.  And, he's right, as bizarre as it is. 
Title: Re: Reports: Truck runs into crowded Christmas market in Berlin
Post by: sneakypete on December 21, 2016, 11:09:40 pm
Lots of very popular music came out about the fall of the Berlin wall.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5KcRl1p2waM

@Cripplecreek

The original "Winds of Change" was by Eric Burton and the Animals. More than a little bit complex and spooky. Had it on a big Teac reel to reel when I was in VN. Starts a little slow,but give the whole thing a listen and you might be surprised. Pretty complex and innovative music for it's time. One of my favorites on it is a song based on social commentary about the Black Plague in Europe and how it was handled. The hook in the song is the chant "Bring out your Dead"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c81BjiTB_zE (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c81BjiTB_zE)
Title: Re: Reports: Truck runs into crowded Christmas market in Berlin
Post by: IsailedawayfromFR on December 21, 2016, 11:19:41 pm
I hate when the press releases statements like, "There are nine dead at the scene." and they do not mention until later that one of the 'nine' they are referring to is one of the terrorists. So, there were really only eight actual human beings killed, plus one filthy terrorist.

The news media does the same when they report on 'gun violence' statistics.

Anyone killing someone and either kills himself or killed by police are included in the statistic of 'gun violence'.
Title: Re: Reports: Truck runs into crowded Christmas market in Berlin
Post by: the_doc on December 21, 2016, 11:25:23 pm
Does anyone have a transcript of Mark Levin's guest host's comments about the characteristics of the truck versus instructions for jihadists on an ISIS website?  It's stunning stuff.

You know, I am beginning to think this was an attack by a terrorist.  (Just sayin')
Title: Re: Reports: Truck runs into crowded Christmas market in Berlin
Post by: Fishrrman on December 22, 2016, 02:55:42 am
Sanguine wrote:
"Frau Merkel has had absolutely no compassion for the little people - the men and (mostly) women who would predictably be impacted by her actions.  No compassion whatsoever.  In fact, it's almost as if she hates them."

Sounds remarkably like another leftist woman who until early November, was grasping for the reins of power right here...
Title: Re: Reports: Truck runs into crowded Christmas market in Berlin
Post by: TomSea on December 22, 2016, 03:17:23 am
Firshrrman wrote:

Sounds remarkably like another leftist woman who until early November, was grasping for the reins of power right here...

Yes, she was going to increase it by maybe 500% or something? How dreadful.