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Title: Trump’s Right: His Media Coverage Is Mostly Negative
Post by: Right_in_Virginia on October 03, 2017, 02:31:06 pm
Trump’s Right: His Media Coverage Is Mostly Negative
NBC News, Oct 2, 2017, Claire Atkinson

President Donald Trump frequently complains about media coverage of his administration, and a study released Monday confirms his suspicion: Most of it has been negative.

The Pew Research Center, in a content analysis of the early days of the Trump presidency, found that 62 percent of the coverage was negative and only 5 percent was positive.


More:  https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/donald-trump/trump-s-right-his-media-coverage-mostly-negative-n806681
Title: Re: Trump’s Right: His Media Coverage Is Mostly Negative
Post by: RoosGirl on October 03, 2017, 02:44:13 pm
Good thing he won so he can do what he said:
"I'm going to open up our libel laws so when they write purposely negative and horrible and false articles, we can sue them and win lots of money. We're going to open up those libel laws. So when The New York Times writes a hit piece which is a total disgrace or when The Washington Post, which is there for other reasons, writes a hit piece, we can sue them and win money instead of having no chance of winning because they're totally protected."
Title: Re: Trump’s Right: His Media Coverage Is Mostly Negative
Post by: Right_in_Virginia on October 03, 2017, 04:55:09 pm
Good thing he won so he can do what he said:
"I'm going to open up our libel laws so when they write purposely negative and horrible and false articles, we can sue them and win lots of money. We're going to open up those libel laws. So when The New York Times writes a hit piece which is a total disgrace or when The Washington Post, which is there for other reasons, writes a hit piece, we can sue them and win money instead of having no chance of winning because they're totally protected."

Are you saying you're unhappy the President's changed his mind?  Would you prefer he sue the media?
Title: Re: Trump’s Right: His Media Coverage Is Mostly Negative
Post by: LateForLunch on October 03, 2017, 05:00:39 pm
Are you saying you're unhappy the President's changed his mind?  Would you prefer he sue the media?

I'd prefer that he rescind the laws prohibiting monomachy. That might ameliorate the same problem by different means.
Title: Re: Trump’s Right: His Media Coverage Is Mostly Negative
Post by: Rivergirl on October 03, 2017, 05:07:43 pm
If the president wants positive coverage he's going to have to be a positive role model not some tweeter from the sewer.
Title: Re: Trump’s Right: His Media Coverage Is Mostly Negative
Post by: LateForLunch on October 03, 2017, 05:29:24 pm
If the president wants positive coverage he's going to have to be a positive role model not some tweeter from the sewer.

No, with all due respect (and that is great) you fail to understand, Chatelaine! There is NOTHING, save a complete capitulation to leftist policy that would obtain positive coverage from 95% of the mass media.

Though his manner could be more grandfatherly with some positive effect (RWR) he also rejects the narrative that he must be "nicer". He clearly sees his role as "Kali, destroyer of worlds" not an arbiter.

See, 'Crat fundraising is waaaaaay down. That is apparently one of the side-effects of the left's concentration on the sturm-unt-drang of the never-ended campaign against Trump.

As disagreeable as his abrasive, surly, aggressive demeanor is to many, as a political strategery (sic) it has had more net positives than negatives so far.

The most recent relaxation of regulatory pressure on business and a rip-roaring financial sector (set to take off even more with tax reform in the pipeline) is going to produce more employment and tax revenue, which will boost his popularity in many sectors - particularly those who can't find good jobs who want them (many millions of voters).

Blacks voted for Trump in higher numbers than any previous GOP candidate. One of the reasons is that Trump seems "real" IOW, unafraid to offend people if he believes he's right.

Try to think of words as munitions, not primarily tools of communication and you may start to understand how things look from the Trump team's POV.

Often when DJT engages in aggressive exchanges, he comes out looking like the more-honest one in many cases.

Voters like strong presidents, even if they are somewhat unpleasant. As long as they stay mostly positive and get things done.


Title: Re: Trump’s Right: His Media Coverage Is Mostly Negative
Post by: aligncare on October 03, 2017, 05:33:20 pm
I'd prefer that he rescind the laws prohibiting monomachy. That might ameliorate the same problem by different means.

monomachy – (now rare) A fight or contest between two people or forces; a duel; single combat. [from 16th c.] (noun)

What, did you get a vocabulary for Christmas?
Title: Re: Trump’s Right: His Media Coverage Is Mostly Negative
Post by: aligncare on October 03, 2017, 05:41:27 pm
 :beer:
Title: Re: Trump’s Right: His Media Coverage Is Mostly Negative
Post by: Concerned on October 03, 2017, 05:43:20 pm
If the president wants positive coverage he's going to have to be a positive role model not some tweeter from the sewer.

Exactly right IMO.  You’re going to get negative press as the POTUS when you say and tweet false statements, when you publicly continue petty squabbles with other political leaders, when you name-call other world leaders, and when you undercut members of your own Administration.  I think he does a lot of these things simply to keep the press attention on himself personally.  I think it’s disingenuous to then complain about the press coverage that you sought especially when much of it is intentionally controversial and/or contentious. 

BTW -- I saw plenty of positive coverage of his Administration’s response to Florida and Texas, and I saw plenty of positive coverage to his speech yesterday on Las Vegas. 
Title: Re: Trump’s Right: His Media Coverage Is Mostly Negative
Post by: LateForLunch on October 03, 2017, 05:59:05 pm
monomachy – (now rare) A fight or contest between two people or forces; a duel; single combat. [from 16th c.] (noun)

What, did you get a vocabulary for Christmas?

hah hah I've read a lot of Gene Wolfe books. He often likes to use a lot of archaic, obscure, ancient and anachronistic terms/words in his writing. I've had to have a dictionary at hand any time I've read some of his books. 

To the substance of the point in the last post from Concerned, the greater number of attacks DJT has made which were EFFECTIVE, involved fake news stories - most recently the endless parade of derisive stories about how there was no evidence that he or his campaign had been wiretapped by the Eightball Obama administration. Now after months and thousands of hostile, derisive news stories castigating him as "paranoid" or "deranged", it turns out that DJT was 100% correct about being wiretapped by the Eightball - even about how he himself likely was being wiretapped by the mad wiretapper/unmasker Susan "mad-wiretapper/unmasker" Rice!!

Sure, sometimes DJT has misfired. Those will hopefully become fewer as time goes on. But again, think of it in terms of a bombing campaign. Sure, sometimes there are bombs that fall off target and friendly-fire accidents. The net value of any bombing campaign must be measured in terms of the long-term, larger strategic effect.

 Words are no longer primarily tools of communication, they are munitions. We are deep into the era of Soft Warfare, where words, mass media and rhetoric have been weaponized.
Title: Re: Trump’s Right: His Media Coverage Is Mostly Negative
Post by: RoosGirl on October 03, 2017, 06:29:42 pm
Are you saying you're unhappy the President's changed his mind?  Would you prefer he sue the media?

I'm just pointing out the past and current oddness of his bluster.  Of course the MSM is going to give him mostly negative coverage.  They hate him as they would any Republican president that would have won.  It's not personal.  Whining and complaining about it, in the manner that he typically does,  feeds right into the appearance he perpetuates of him being an immature boor.
Title: Re: Trump’s Right: His Media Coverage Is Mostly Negative
Post by: Right_in_Virginia on October 03, 2017, 06:37:18 pm
I'm just pointing out the past and current oddness of his bluster.  Of course the MSM is going to give him mostly negative coverage.  They hate him as they would any Republican president that would have won.  It's not personal.  Whining and complaining about it, in the manner that he typically does,  feeds right into the appearance he perpetuates of him being an immature boor.

You do realize you're posting on a thread from NBC saying the President is correct, don't you?

So... what's with the gratuitous attack on the President? 

Title: Re: Trump’s Right: His Media Coverage Is Mostly Negative
Post by: Formerly Once-Ler on October 03, 2017, 06:46:15 pm
See, 'Crat fundraising is waaaaaay down. That is apparently one of the side-effects of the left's concentration on the sturm-unt-drang of the never-ended campaign against Trump.

Not all their fundraising is down...the DNC is way down.

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/elections/house-democrats-break-campaign-fundraising-record-n802171https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/elections/house-democrats-break-campaign-fundraising-record-n802171
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The campaign arm of House Democrats has posted its highest off-year August fundraising haul ever, the group told NBC News.

While their Republican counterparts haven't yet released their August results, the Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee (DCCC) has outraised Republicans each of the three previous months — a result Democrats say bodes well for their prospects of winning the House in the 2018 midterm elections
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Title: Re: Trump’s Right: His Media Coverage Is Mostly Negative
Post by: RoosGirl on October 03, 2017, 06:50:43 pm
You do realize you're posting on a thread from NBC saying the President is correct, don't you?

So... what's with the gratuitous attack on the President?

There's no gratuitous attack.  Everything I said is correct.  NBC running this story doesn't change any of that.  What do you think they're reasoning is to run this story?  Maybe to try to say "Hey, those *other* guys are running hit pieces, but not us" ?
Title: Re: Trump’s Right: His Media Coverage Is Mostly Negative
Post by: LateForLunch on October 03, 2017, 06:53:13 pm
You do realize you're posting on a thread from NBC saying the President is correct, don't you?

So... what's with the gratuitous attack on the President?

All due respect RIV (and that is great) I think you misunderstood . I didn't get any gratuitous attack from that post. It seemed substantive and even-handed. That being said, it's clear that what we are seeing in DJTs social media excursions, is likely his own style of shooting-from-the-hip, letting the bullets fall where they may.

True that most who harshly criticize that aspect of his behavior are largely opponents of Trump's policies, not fans. The cost/benefit analysis of this social media campaign will likely only become more clear after a longer period of time.
Title: Re: Trump’s Right: His Media Coverage Is Mostly Negative
Post by: Right_in_Virginia on October 03, 2017, 06:53:53 pm
There's no gratuitous attack. ....

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Title: Re: Trump’s Right: His Media Coverage Is Mostly Negative
Post by: RoosGirl on October 03, 2017, 07:06:42 pm


I know you think any ill word about your darling savior is a gratuitous attack.   :tongue2:
Title: Re: Trump’s Right: His Media Coverage Is Mostly Negative
Post by: LateForLunch on October 03, 2017, 07:13:22 pm
I know you think any ill word about your darling savior is a gratuitous attack.   :tongue2:


That being said, I'd imagine that Kim Jong Un has just put out a strongly-worded order to procure a large group of look-alikes (like Saddam Hussein did) just in case something more than a tongue-lashing or Tweet comes his way from the U.S.A.
Title: Re: Trump’s Right: His Media Coverage Is Mostly Negative
Post by: RoosGirl on October 03, 2017, 07:14:49 pm


That being said, I'd imagine that Kim Jong Un has just put out an strongly worded order to procure a large group of look-alikes (like Saddam Hussein did) just in case something more than a tongue-lashing or Tweet comes his way from the U.S.A.

Gonna be hard to find anyone else as fat as he is in that country.
Title: Re: Trump’s Right: His Media Coverage Is Mostly Negative
Post by: aligncare on October 03, 2017, 08:51:58 pm
I don’t trust political news anymore. It’s proven they obfuscate and worse, lie to us.

Strong supporters of the President (me) are especially leery of news headlines in particular. Originally they were designed to briefly encapsulate a story, today they are designed to mislead and create suspicion of wrongdoing–only in republican administrations, of course.

So when I see their shiny political narratives, their latest “breaking” news, I’ve learned to reserve judgement until all the facts are on the table. Thank goodness for the internet where the true facts eventually come out.

Now if we could only get news consumers to switch off the state media networks.
Title: Re: Trump’s Right: His Media Coverage Is Mostly Negative
Post by: kevindavis007 on October 04, 2017, 12:33:36 am
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Title: Re: Trump’s Right: His Media Coverage Is Mostly Negative
Post by: corbe on October 04, 2017, 12:36:22 am
   The press should really get off his azz and threat him as well as they did GWB, those 'Fake News' bleeps /s

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Dave Brown‏Verified account
@dave_brown24

From the White House transcript:

Trump: And a lot of people got to see the real Coast Guard during this incredible trouble. Would you like to say something on behalf of your men and women?

Air Force representative: Sir, I’m representing the Air Force.

Trump: No, I know that.
12:21 PM - 3 Oct 2017

 :silly:
Title: Re: Trump’s Right: His Media Coverage Is Mostly Negative
Post by: InHeavenThereIsNoBeer on October 04, 2017, 12:50:36 am
   The press should really get off his azz and threat him as well as they did GWB, those 'Fake News' bleeps /s

 :silly:

Okay.  He said something nice about the CG, then gave the AF rep a chance to highlight their contributions.

Or not.  I really don't know.  But without context, one can read that quote in two very different ways.
Title: Re: Trump’s Right: His Media Coverage Is Mostly Negative
Post by: corbe on October 04, 2017, 01:00:31 am
   Your right, of course, @InHeavenThereIsNoBeer With my warped NT mind I easily gravitated to the stupid aspect of it. Guess we would have had to have been there to fully grasp the 'context'.
Title: Re: Trump’s Right: His Media Coverage Is Mostly Negative
Post by: RoosGirl on October 04, 2017, 01:20:48 am
   The press should really get off his azz and threat him as well as they did GWB, those 'Fake News' bleeps /s

 :silly:

Here's the video.  He starts talking about the Coast Guard around 9:00.  It looks to me like he thinks he's addressing the Coast Guard Commander.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YxO5QuAlVsY
Title: Re: Trump’s Right: His Media Coverage Is Mostly Negative
Post by: Rivergirl on October 06, 2017, 01:02:22 pm
I have come to the conclusion that trump is the Gypsy Rose Lee of politics.   He sings LET ME ENTERTAIN YOU............every day and night for that matter.
Title: Re: Trump’s Right: His Media Coverage Is Mostly Negative
Post by: LateForLunch on October 06, 2017, 06:02:00 pm
Gonna be hard to find anyone else as fat as he is in that country.

Now, THAT'S funny.

(http://assets.nydailynews.com/polopoly_fs/1.1840159.1403532447!/img/httpImage/image.jpg_gen/derivatives/article_750/north-korea.jpg)
Title: Re: Trump’s Right: His Media Coverage Is Mostly Negative
Post by: RoosGirl on October 06, 2017, 06:45:02 pm
Now, THAT'S funny.

(http://assets.nydailynews.com/polopoly_fs/1.1840159.1403532447!/img/httpImage/image.jpg_gen/derivatives/article_750/north-korea.jpg)

I ain't skeerd of getting the stink eye from some short foreign dicktater.
Title: Re: Trump’s Right: His Media Coverage Is Mostly Negative
Post by: DiogenesLamp on October 06, 2017, 06:46:24 pm
 
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Kurt Schlichter    
Kurt Schlichter Verified Account
@KurtSchlichter    
So, basically, while Hollywood was wetting its collective panties over Donald Trump being vulgar, these paragons were celebrating a serial sexual abuser? I mean besides Bill Clinton and Roman Polanski. Alert our new moral conscience Jimmy Kimmel! @jaketapper twitter.com/jaketapper/sta…
5:31 PM - 5 Oct 2017


Looks like as good a place as any to put this. 


https://mobile.twitter.com/KurtSchlichter/status/916098518086848512
Title: Re: Trump’s Right: His Media Coverage Is Mostly Negative
Post by: Rivergirl on October 08, 2017, 11:50:31 am
The saddest fact of all is that the so called 'evangelical' community embraced the vulgarian.
Title: Re: Trump’s Right: His Media Coverage Is Mostly Negative
Post by: DCPatriot on October 08, 2017, 12:21:38 pm
The saddest fact of all is that the so called 'evangelical' community embraced the vulgarian.

Geez.....  "saddest"??   Ya think 'Pantsuit' would have nominated Gorsuch? 

Perhaps it's because they literally understand "Sticks and stones may break my bones but names will NEVER hurt me"?    :whistle:

You should send them a monthly check in appreciation, sweetheart.   
Title: Re: Trump’s Right: His Media Coverage Is Mostly Negative
Post by: DCPatriot on October 08, 2017, 12:28:11 pm
I have come to the conclusion that trump is the Gypsy Rose Lee of politics.   He sings LET ME ENTERTAIN YOU............every day and night for that matter.

He's also the 'Frank Sinatra' of politics, dear.

Sings "MY WAY" every night a closing time.
Title: Re: Trump’s Right: His Media Coverage Is Mostly Negative
Post by: DCPatriot on October 08, 2017, 12:31:43 pm
You do realize you're posting on a thread from NBC saying the President is correct, don't you?

So... what's with the gratuitous attack on the President?

...needs to be more careful exiting her SUV in a short skirt, IMO.    *****rollingeyes*****
Title: Re: Trump’s Right: His Media Coverage Is Mostly Negative
Post by: RoosGirl on October 08, 2017, 01:49:51 pm
...needs to be more careful exiting her SUV in a short skirt, IMO.    *****rollingeyes*****

You are a foul and loathsome thing, IMO.
Title: Re: Trump’s Right: His Media Coverage Is Mostly Negative
Post by: Right_in_Virginia on October 08, 2017, 04:40:11 pm
The saddest fact of all is that the so called 'evangelical' community embraced the vulgarian.
(https://vulgarmorality.files.wordpress.com/2014/11/fainting-victorian-lady.jpg)
Title: Re: Trump’s Right: His Media Coverage Is Mostly Negative
Post by: DCPatriot on October 08, 2017, 05:12:23 pm
You are a foul and loathsome thing, IMO.

Projecting again?   :laugh:
Title: Re: Trump’s Right: His Media Coverage Is Mostly Negative
Post by: RoosGirl on October 08, 2017, 05:17:50 pm
Projecting again?   :laugh:

Nope.  Were you projecting when you mentioned getting out of an SUV in a mini skirt?