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SOURCE: THE HILL
URL: http://thehill.com/opinion/finance/369536-census-data-show-people-flocking-to-low-tax-states (http://thehill.com/opinion/finance/369536-census-data-show-people-flocking-to-low-tax-states)
by Jonathan Williams
Just a month ago, as friends and families prepared to gather for the holiday season, the men and women at the U.S. Census Bureau were busy releasing their latest annual estimates of population changes across the United States.
With the hustle and bustle of the season, many Americans missed the important new data. The new census estimates detail how states have grown since the last full census in 2010. The estimates provide some fascinating insight on what we can expect from the quickly approaching 2020 Census.
For those of us wonky enough to follow the annual trends in state-by-state migration, the numbers were an early Christmas gift.
A report I have authored with Arthur Laffer for the past decade, "Rich States, Poor States," has tracked this movement, as Americans “vote with their feet†across state lines. Our research provides policymakers timely data linking migration to state-level policy decisions and economic competitiveness.
In general, states that keep taxes low and provide a competitive business climate perform far better than the states that follow the tax-and-spend approach.
In terms of overall population changes over the past year, that finding is once again confirmed. The United States has grown to nearly 327 million residents, with highly competitive economies in Idaho, Nevada and Utah leading the way this past year in percentage growth.
It is important to note that overall population growth takes into account several factors, including: birth rates and death rates, international immigration and domestic migration. This data provides a key barometer for policymakers as states compete for the Americans who continue to “vote with their feet†and move from state to state for greater economic opportunity.
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A very conservative couple that are friends from Connecticut have just put a deposit on a half acre in eastern Tennessee. They intend to move to TN in two years
Reasons for the move: family, taxes, politics, weather.
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A lot of the "immigrants" are bringing their sloppy thinking with them, and voting for Dems in their new states, thus polluting what they came for. In the first half of the 2010's, more than half the Reps in formerly conservative AZ were Democrats.
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A lot of the "immigrants" are bringing their sloppy thinking with them, and voting for Dems in their new states, thus polluting what they came for. In the first half of the 2010's, more than half the Reps in formerly conservative AZ were Democrats.
Tell it. Saw it in Texas with the great California migration of macmansion builders descended upon texas like locusts. The brought their california school system indoctrinated rat bastard children with them and they are infesting the place.
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Tell it. Saw it in Texas with the great California migration of macmansion builders descended upon texas like locusts. The brought their california school system indoctrinated rat bastard children with them and they are infesting the place.
Yep, the Austin area is now Cali-lite.
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Yep, the Austin area is now Cali-lite.
True, but Austin has always been that way. I'm not saying that Libs aren't moving to TX, just that I think it's less than Conservatives that are moving to TX.
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Yep, the Austin area is now Cali-lite.
Austin has been a mess for years. It's one of the "Keep It Freaky" cities on the list.
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True, but Austin has always been that way. I'm not saying that Libs aren't moving to TX, just that I think it's less than Conservatives that are moving to TX.
Hey! Welcome to TBR! :seeya:
Same story here in AZ.
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Hey! Welcome to TBR! :seeya:
Same story here in AZ.
Thanks, glad to be here. :beer:
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Thanks, glad to be here. :beer:
0005a. @Au_Jus ! I think you'll like it here!
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0005a. @Au_Jus ! I think you'll like it here!
Lets not get ahead of ourselves no Freya. We need to check her Bonafides. :smokin:
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Tell it. Saw it in Texas with the great California migration of macmansion builders descended upon texas like locusts. The brought their california school system indoctrinated rat bastard children with them and they are infesting the place.
Same thing that turned Colorado blue. 9999hair out0000
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Lets not get ahead of ourselves no Freya. We need to check her Bonafides. :smokin:
HIS, and I'm a Texan! nuff said... :tongue2:
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Welcome. ^-^
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HIS, and I'm a Texan! nuff said... :tongue2:
Okay. So sorry Mac. I was confused as I found no prime rib or beef roast is complete without this perfect, but very simple, beef au jus made by my wife.
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Tell it. Saw it in Texas with the great California migration of macmansion builders descended upon texas like locusts. The brought their california school system indoctrinated rat bastard children with them and they are infesting the place.
Yep, this is what ruined Washington and Oregon too. Kalifornia wetards move up here and pull the donkey lever.
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True, but Austin has always been that way. I'm not saying that Libs aren't moving to TX, just that I think it's less than Conservatives that are moving to TX.
Hey, welcome! And, a fellow Texan?
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Hey, welcome! And, a fellow Texan?
Boy, not much gets past you today. :pondering:
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Yep, this is what ruined Washington and Oregon too. Kalifornia wetards move up here and pull the donkey lever.
So Far after leaving TX they have yet to follow me to Florida. But then we do have our own special kind of grapefruits over here.
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Boy, not much gets past you today. :pondering:
Sorry, I was distracted by your flirting with Frank.
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Sorry, I was distracted by your flirting with Frank.
We always have room for a threesome.
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We always have room for a threesome.
I don't want to know that.
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Hey, welcome! And, a fellow Texan?
Yep, a proud Texan from Cowtown!
Thanks to all for the warm welcome and apologies to the OP for the sidetrack.
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Yep, the Austin area is now Cali-lite.
It’s not just Austin proper, but each way up and down the I35 corridor and over to 281. Home prices are skyrocketing and the cities and counties are loving it for the additional property tax revenues. Can’t find a decent house for under $300k anymore unless your a hundred miles from town.
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Yep, a proud Texan from Cowtown!
Keller or Southlake?
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It’s not just Austin proper, but each way up and down the I35 corridor and over to 281. Home prices are skyrocketing and the cities and counties are loving it for the additional property tax revenues. Can’t find a decent house for under $300k anymore unless your a hundred miles from town.
Oh, that's right, and you should know. There's still places. And, Austin isn't the center of the universe.
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True, but Austin has always been that way. I'm not saying that Libs aren't moving to TX, just that I think it's less than Conservatives that are moving to TX.
i was thinking the same, that Austin has been that way for a long time.
"Visualize Whirled Peas", etc...
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And, Austin isn't the center of the universe.
Shh, don't tell'em.
Austin thinks it is...
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Shh, don't tell'em.
Austin thinks it is...
I know. I wrote that very quietly...
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Keller or Southlake?
Westover Hills.
Not that it matters...
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I know. I wrote that very quietly...
:beer:
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Westover Hills.
Not that it matters...
It doesn't. Just that most people who say they live in Ft Worth only use that are a locator. I myself moved from Keller several years ago. You wrote like a Southlaker (not that that is a bad thing) so I just wondered. :shrug:
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It doesn't. Just that most people who say they live in Ft Worth only use that are a locator. I myself moved from Keller several years ago. You wrote like a Southlaker (not that that is a bad thing) so I just wondered. :shrug:
NP GB! :beer:
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Tell it. Saw it in Texas with the great California migration of macmansion builders descended upon texas like locusts. The brought their california school system indoctrinated rat bastard children with them and they are infesting the place.
I had a CA transplant tell me a few years ago that CA was so much better than TX.
Her main arguement was gun control.
I was polite, and told her that I support the 2nd amendment, ma'am, and for that I was called a redneck, which is a somewhat accurate description of me.
For the most part, The folks from CA that I have met have assimilated to TX okay.
But, not all....
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So Far after leaving TX they have yet to follow me to Florida. But then we do have our own special kind of grapefruits over here.
Retired New York liberals.
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Retired New York liberals.
And Jersey. I read somewhere that NJ was number 2 in loosing population. I know if I didn't have family obligations I'd move. :)
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Same thing that turned Colorado blue. 9999hair out0000
Californication. The entire West knows the term.
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Californication. The entire West knows the term.
The truth is California was invaded by people from other places, illegal and otherwise, for at least the last three decades. Pelosi and Boxer are from the east coast for example...
Many of the "California" invaders going to other states now are not from California at all.
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The truth is California was invaded by people from other places, illegal and otherwise, for at least the last three decades. Pelosi and Boxer are from the east coast for example...
Many of the "California" invaders going to other states now are not from California at all.
Probably not, but for whatever reason, the people we are talking about were attracted to Cali, and went there and formed an identifiable culture.
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Probably not, but for whatever reason, the people we are talking about were attracted to Cali, and went there and formed an identifiable culture.
Locust are attracted to productive fields, destroy them and then move on.
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A lot of the "immigrants" are bringing their sloppy thinking with them, and voting for Dems in their new states, thus polluting what they came for. In the first half of the 2010's, more than half the Reps in formerly conservative AZ were Democrats.
@Cyber Liberty
The sad,sad truth is that is the way it has ALWAYS been. I can't think of a single exception. I grew up in a resort area that started rapidly multiplying thanks to yankees moving down to retire,and then their children following them a few years later to open businesses because it was cheaper and easier to do here. In less than a year every one of the SOB's were lobbying local politicians to increase zoning restrictions to raise property values,pass more laws governing the sizes and styles of houses people could live in,etc,etc,etc. One who local community now has a regulation that bans pickup trucks parked outside. If you have one you drive for your business or pleasure,you have to park it inside your garage and keep the door shut so it can't be seen,or face a 50 dollar a day fine.
The local volunteer fire department was taken over by these loons who didn't like the Wednesday night at 8 PM meetings the working people scheduled so they could go after work because it interfeered with their cocktail hours,so they changed them to Wednesdays at 1 PM,with drinks to follow at the golf club. Guess what? There are no longer any volunteers in the local fire departments. They are all paid members now because houses started to burn to the ground because the 60+ year old drunks couldn't handle the job. Guess what happened to the local tax rate.
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I don't want to know that.
@Sanguine
You would rather be surprised?
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Locust are attracted to productive fields, destroy them and then move on.
@DB
Apt observation!
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Californication. The entire West knows the term.
As a California native I remain amused by the idea liberals move out of California.
It is mathematically impossible for so many as are claimed to have moved out, with so many still remaining.
Yes I have witnessed it change, and continue to change. I think it is demographics, and older conservatives leaving for other horizons. (younger minorities, replacing older whites mainly)
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The truth is California was invaded by people from other places, illegal and otherwise, for at least the last three decades. Pelosi and Boxer are from the east coast for example...
Many of the "California" invaders going to other states now are not from California at all.
No offense meant @DB
I've punched cows and rode the rodeo circuit with cowboys from the Sierras. Good folks - Just what you'd expect. Solid gold.
I am friends with another feller that lost the water battle, and his hacienda in the (central?) valley... He's got a place up here in the sticks... Same thing. Salt of the earth.
I even know more than a few CA granola-head hippie types homesteading off-grid... They're a bit weird, but good folks. Usually in the vanguard teaching folks things long forgotten wrt pre-refrigeration preservation tech, and as a group, tend to excel in foraging. Great folks. Most of what we know up here about Thermal Mass Heat, and probably Solar power comes from them.
ALL of the above are good Conservative folks.
But the liberalism descending upon the West is an infection spreading primarily from the Left Coast, and there ain't no denying it, whether you want to claim them or not. 'Californication' became a word for a reason. And the word is wide-spread.
Not exactly fair, as Portland and Seattle do their part too - And Washingtonians and Oregonians don't want to claim them either... But there it is.
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As a California native I remain amused by the idea liberals move out of California.
It is mathematically impossible for so many as are claimed to have moved out, with so many still remaining.
Yes I have witnessed it change, and continue to change. I think it is demographics, and older conservatives leaving for other horizons. (younger minorities, replacing older whites mainly)
Oh, they do. And many of them may think themselves conservative - thus apparent in the difference and disagreement(s) made evident between you and I. They hate what they live in, so they cash in their postage stamp estate in CA suburbia and move where the air is clean and the water is fresh... And with them come gated communities, McMansions, and common core... Liberal colleges, liberal school districts, local activism and friggin round-abouts. Can't leave anything alone... The way that worked fine here forever.
In my lifetime, I've seen it here.
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As a California native I remain amused by the idea liberals move out of California.
It is mathematically impossible for so many as are claimed to have moved out, with so many still remaining.
Yes I have witnessed it change, and continue to change. I think it is demographics, and older conservatives leaving for other horizons. (younger minorities, replacing older whites mainly)
I agree with this and believe that the facts bear it out. Mainly the fact that the Democratic party has lost considerable ground in the collective state legislatures over the last decade or so.
Source: http://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/306736-dems-hit-new-low-in-state-legislatures (http://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/306736-dems-hit-new-low-in-state-legislatures)
This doesn't jive with the theory that Liberals are flocking to conservative states and changing the overall voting patterns.
Does that happen in some isolated instances, I'm sure it does. But not to the point that the article in the OP suggests... imo.
I know for me the last thing I would want to do is move to CA or NY or NJ... etc. It would take extraordinary circumstances before I would do that. I'm sure Liberals feel the same way about moving to a solid Red state such as TX or AZ...etc.
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@Sanguine
You would rather be surprised?
LOL, no. I would plan on being elsewhere.
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Oh, they do. And many of them may think themselves conservative - thus apparent in the difference and disagreement(s) made evident between you and I. They hate what they live in, so they cash in their postage stamp estate in CA suburbia and move where the air is clean and the water is fresh... And with them come gated communities, McMansions, and common core... Liberal colleges, liberal school districts, local activism and friggin round-abouts. Can't leave anything alone... The way that worked fine here forever.
In my lifetime, I've seen it here.
Keyword "apparent." I bet if we talked face to place, we'd find many more things in common.
The daily news feed here, is intended to start conflict, and it works.
My grandfather was a Montana-Wyoming cowboy. My father started as a carpenter. I lived in the intermountain states as a kid. I have never lived in a big city.
I learned conservatism starting with Eisenhower, from my family. But they were northerers-religous abolitionists. Throw in Mormons, too. (Never been Mormon even a day in my life, but historically they played a major role in westward expansion of this country.)
I have family all over the West. A few in Canada. Nobody in big cities.
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Keyword "apparent." I bet if we talked face to place, we'd find many more things in common.
I used the word 'apparent' more like 'revealed', not like 'supposed or purported'. And I have much in common with my own sister, who is as whacko-liberal moonbat as they come (she paid good money to attend both Obama inaugurations). But what we have in common, obviously doesn't make up for the difference.
The daily news feed here, is intended to start conflict, and it works.
The test of any philosophy is found in the conflict - In the conflict is where it matters. The impasse reveals.
My grandfather was a Montana-Wyoming cowboy. My father started as a carpenter. I lived in the intermountain states as a kid. I have never lived in a big city.
I learned conservatism starting with Eisenhower, from my family. But they were northerers-religous abolitionists. Throw in Mormons, too. (Never been Mormon even a day in my life, but historically they played a major role in westward expansion of this country.)
I have family all over the West. A few in Canada. Nobody in big cities.
My sister could say the same thing. And she thinks she is well-reasoned.
She cannot for the life of her understand why her hick family abhors the communism she espouses in typical Clintonite fashion.
Much the same exists between moderate Republicans and far right Conservatives, IMHO.