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Title: BREAKING: Mark Sanford suspends Presidential campaign
Post by: jmyrlefuller on November 12, 2019, 06:06:01 pm
https://twitter.com/amandawgolden/status/1194300329896169472

Developing...
Title: Re: BREAKING: Mark Sanford suspends Presidential campaign
Post by: Wingnut on November 12, 2019, 06:14:50 pm
Oh man.  Jazzy is going to be totally bummed when he hears the news.
Title: Re: BREAKING: Mark Sanford suspends Presidential campaign
Post by: Right_in_Virginia on November 12, 2019, 06:16:09 pm
Oh man.  Jazzy is going to be totally bummed when he hears the news.

This was my first thought, too.   88devil
Title: Re: BREAKING: Mark Sanford suspends Presidential campaign
Post by: Gefn on November 12, 2019, 06:27:02 pm
Mark Sanford suspends 2020 presidential campaign

CNN)Mark Sanford, the former South Carolina governor and congressman who two months ago launched a longshot primary challenge to President Donald Trump, suspended his candidacy Tuesday.

"I am suspending my race for the Presidency because impeachment has made my goal of making the debt, deficit and spending issue a part of this presidential debate impossible right now," Sanford said in a statement. "From day one, I was fully aware of how hard it would be to elevate these issues with a sitting president of my own party ignoring them. Impeachment noise has moved what was hard to herculean as nearly everything in Republican Party politics is currently viewed through the prism of impeachment."

Sanford -- who emerged as a vocal Republican critic of the President before losing his congressional seat in a GOP primary contest last year -- made the announcement during a press conference at the New Hampshire statehouse.

https://www.cnn.com/2019/11/12/politics/mark-sanford-2020-bid/index.html (https://www.cnn.com/2019/11/12/politics/mark-sanford-2020-bid/index.html)
Title: Re: BREAKING: Mark Sanford suspends Presidential campaign
Post by: aligncare on November 12, 2019, 06:46:48 pm
Rush mentioned the news about Sanford while he was making the point that Nikki Haley’s book and tv appearances are proof that the GOP is Trump’s, saying she seems to have evolved in her support and defense of Trump, and if someone wants a future in republican politics they had better understand this.

Sanford, by withdrawing his challenge to Trump is just further proof, according to Rush, that the party is consolidating behind Trump.
Title: Re: BREAKING: Mark Sanford suspends Presidential campaign
Post by: roamer_1 on November 12, 2019, 06:54:45 pm
"I am suspending my race for the Presidency because impeachment has made my goal of making the debt, deficit and spending issue a part of this presidential debate impossible right now," Sanford said in a statement. "From day one, I was fully aware of how hard it would be to elevate these issues with a sitting president of my own party ignoring them.

FACTS.
Title: Re: BREAKING: Mark Sanford suspends Presidential campaign
Post by: dfwgator on November 12, 2019, 07:05:58 pm
He found a new Argentinian Hussy?
Title: Re: BREAKING: Mark Sanford suspends Presidential campaign
Post by: Wingnut on November 12, 2019, 07:11:02 pm
Is the Appalachia Trail closed for the winter?  If not, Mark can take a hike.
Title: Re: BREAKING: Mark Sanford suspends Presidential campaign
Post by: PeteS in CA on November 12, 2019, 07:41:32 pm
Republican Mark Sanford drops out of presidential race (https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/elections/2019/11/12/republican-mark-sanford-ends-presidential-bid/2575484001/)

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Two months after he entered the race, former South Carolina governor Mark Sanford has ended his long-shot bid for president.

Sanford, a Trump critic, failed to catch traction in the Republican primary, where President Donald Trump remains popular.

"It was a longshot, but we wanted to try and interject this issue, how much we're spending, into the national debate which comes along once every four years," he said Tuesday in New Hampshire outside the statehouse. "I don't think on the Republican side there's any appetite for a serious nuanced debate with impeachment in the air."

So long, farewell, auf wiedersehen, good riddance ...
Title: Re: BREAKING: Mark Sanford suspends Presidential campaign
Post by: truth_seeker on November 12, 2019, 08:15:42 pm

Oh well, there is always Bill Weld or Gary Johnston.

Title: Re: BREAKING: Mark Sanford suspends Presidential campaign
Post by: Wingnut on November 12, 2019, 08:33:01 pm
Republican Mark Sanford drops out of presidential race (https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/elections/2019/11/12/republican-mark-sanford-ends-presidential-bid/2575484001/)

So long, farewell, auf wiedersehen, good riddance ...

 adieu adieu, adieu, to yieu and yieu and yieu.

Damn song is stuck in my head now!
Title: Re: BREAKING: Mark Sanford suspends Presidential campaign
Post by: Applewood on November 12, 2019, 08:38:32 pm
adieu adieu, adieu, to yieu and yieu and yieu.

Damn song is stuck in my head now!

The headline says Sanford is "suspending" his campaign and he mentions the impeachment proceedings coming up.  So that makes me wonder if Sanford is going to wait to see if Trump is tossed out in the next several months and if so, he will be back. 
Title: Re: BREAKING: Mark Sanford suspends Presidential campaign
Post by: mountaineer on November 12, 2019, 08:41:50 pm
Another "candidate" about whom I had completely forgotten.  999yawn
Title: Re: BREAKING: Mark Sanford suspends Presidential campaign
Post by: Wingnut on November 12, 2019, 08:44:57 pm
The headline says Sanford is "suspending" his campaign and he mentions the impeachment proceedings coming up.  So that makes me wonder if Sanford is going to wait to see if Trump is tossed out in the next several months and if so, he will be back.
could be. either that or Mayor Big Gulp set him to thinking?
Title: Re: BREAKING: Mark Sanford suspends Presidential campaign
Post by: Jazzhead on November 12, 2019, 08:50:10 pm
FACTS.

Roamer,  I'm coming along to your way of thinking more and more . . .   
Title: Re: BREAKING: Mark Sanford suspends Presidential campaign
Post by: skeeter on November 12, 2019, 08:53:42 pm
adieu adieu, adieu, to yieu and yieu and yieu.

Damn song is stuck in my head now!

Too bad.

He was at 2%, going on 3%...
Title: Re: BREAKING: Mark Sanford suspends Presidential campaign
Post by: mountaineer on November 12, 2019, 08:54:22 pm
could be. either that or Mayor Big Gulp set him to thinking?
Maybe Sanford sees himself as Little Mike's running mate.
Title: Re: BREAKING: Mark Sanford suspends Presidential campaign
Post by: truth_seeker on November 12, 2019, 09:00:14 pm
Roamer,  I'm coming along to your way of thinking more and more . . .
Third Party Kookism?

seriously.

This site is largely a concentration of poor political instincts and impracticality.

Think when Eisenhower needed to decide to invade France. Upon hearing the weather reports, he said let's go.

Some of loudest voices here, always contrarian, always citing storybook choices, frequently picking losers, would have had the allies floating around in the English channel for months in hope of ideal weather.

If it isn't Sanford, it is Castle.

kooks

Title: Re: BREAKING: Mark Sanford suspends Presidential campaign
Post by: Applewood on November 12, 2019, 09:24:36 pm
@truth_seeker

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This site is largely a concentration of poor political instincts and impracticality.

Do you include yourself in this statement?

We are allowed to have differences of opinion, you know.
Title: Re: BREAKING: Mark Sanford suspends Presidential campaign
Post by: Maj. Bill Martin on November 12, 2019, 09:34:28 pm
FACTS.

I don't disagree, but recognizing uncomfortable facts and doing the best that can be done under the circumstances is the hallmark of mature leadership.  Embarking on a quixotic campaign that you know from the start is doomed to failure looks like vanity, not virtue.
Title: Re: BREAKING: Mark Sanford suspends Presidential campaign
Post by: Right_in_Virginia on November 12, 2019, 09:38:07 pm
Third Party Kookism?  seriously.

This site is largely a concentration of poor political instincts and impracticality.

Well said @truth_seeker
Title: Re: BREAKING: Mark Sanford suspends Presidential campaign
Post by: Right_in_Virginia on November 12, 2019, 09:38:49 pm
I don't disagree, but recognizing uncomfortable facts and doing the best that can be done under the circumstances is the hallmark of mature leadership.  Embarking on a quixotic campaign that you know from the start is doomed to failure looks like vanity, not virtue.

QFT!
Title: Re: BREAKING: Mark Sanford suspends Presidential campaign
Post by: roamer_1 on November 12, 2019, 09:51:53 pm
I don't disagree, but recognizing uncomfortable facts and doing the best that can be done under the circumstances is the hallmark of mature leadership.  Embarking on a quixotic campaign that you know from the start is doomed to failure looks like vanity, not virtue.

No, continuing to support what you don't want, in fear of what you don't want even more, is hardly a sign of maturity. That in fact, is the quixotic move... and doomed from the start - You will not get what you want, no matter what.

Foolishness on parade.
Title: Re: BREAKING: Mark Sanford suspends Presidential campaign
Post by: roamer_1 on November 12, 2019, 09:55:09 pm
Roamer,  I'm coming along to your way of thinking more and more . . .

Sorry for the disappointment @Jazzhead ... This is why I don't get too involved till the field shakes out.
Title: Re: BREAKING: Mark Sanford suspends Presidential campaign
Post by: Maj. Bill Martin on November 12, 2019, 10:15:26 pm
No, continuing to support what you don't want, in fear of what you don't want even more, is hardly a sign of maturity. That in fact, is the quixotic move... and doomed from the start - You will not get what you want, no matter what.


True.  But then again, I'm not supporting something I don't want.  I want and support more conservative justices, and I'm getting them.  I wanted Trump to do all he reasonably could to control illegal immigration, and he's been doing that despite renegade federal judges.  Looks like he's finally going to be permitted to kill DACA.  I wanted reductions in regulations, I wanted us not to sign onto global warming madness, and I wanted us to stay away from single payer.  Trump has given me all of that.  Oh, and badly needed business tax reform that has helped foster the longer expansion in history.

So I wasn't just voting against the left -- I was voting for some things as well that I actually did get.

I also wanted entitlement reform, and really liked Ryan's plan to convert it to block grants.  But I wasn't going to get that with Democrats either, so it's a non-issue at this point.
Title: Re: BREAKING: Mark Sanford suspends Presidential campaign
Post by: dfwgator on November 12, 2019, 10:21:21 pm
True.  But then again, I'm not supporting something I don't want.  I want and support more conservative justices, and I'm getting them.  I wanted Trump to do all he reasonably could to control illegal immigration, and he's been doing that despite renegade federal judges.  Looks like he's finally going to be permitted to kill DACA.  I wanted reductions in regulations, I wanted us not to sign onto global warming madness, and I wanted us to stay away from single payer.  Trump has given me all of that.  Oh, and badly needed business tax reform that has helped foster the longer expansion in history.

So I wasn't just voting against the left -- I was voting for some things as well that I actually did get.

I also wanted entitlement reform, and really liked Ryan's plan to convert it to block grants.  But I wasn't going to get that with Democrats either, so it's a non-issue at this point.

And it's not as if any of the alternatives to Trump will come close to achieving what he has,  even if he's not perfect.
Title: Re: BREAKING: Mark Sanford suspends Presidential campaign
Post by: truth_seeker on November 12, 2019, 11:02:51 pm
True.  But then again, I'm not supporting something I don't want.  I want and support more conservative justices, and I'm getting them.  I wanted Trump to do all he reasonably could to control illegal immigration, and he's been doing that despite renegade federal judges.  Looks like he's finally going to be permitted to kill DACA.  I wanted reductions in regulations, I wanted us not to sign onto global warming madness, and I wanted us to stay away from single payer.  Trump has given me all of that.  Oh, and badly needed business tax reform that has helped foster the longer expansion in history.

So I wasn't just voting against the left -- I was voting for some things as well that I actually did get.

I also wanted entitlement reform, and really liked Ryan's plan to convert it to block grants.  But I wasn't going to get that with Democrats either, so it's a non-issue at this point.

Let me mark you down in the political adult collumn. Good instincts, good judgment too.
Title: Re: BREAKING: Mark Sanford suspends Presidential campaign
Post by: PeteS in CA on November 12, 2019, 11:34:20 pm
adieu adieu, adieu, to yieu and yieu and yieu.

Damn song is stuck in my head now!

The best cure for a brain worm song is a worse brain worm. Something by Abba would work for me. Or maybe Sherri Lewis' "Song that Never Ends".

I realize TDS is a thing, but how Sanford imagined he had the national recognition to get Any Democrat elected instead of Trump is beyond my ken.
Title: Re: BREAKING: Mark Sanford suspends Presidential campaign
Post by: Wingnut on November 12, 2019, 11:39:10 pm
The best cure for a brain worm song is a worse brain worm. Something by Abba would work for me. Or maybe Sherri Lewis' "Song that Never Ends".

I realize TDS is a thing, but how Sanford imagined he had the national recognition to get Any Democrat elected instead of Trump is beyond my ken.

 :yowsa:
Title: Re: BREAKING: Mark Sanford suspends Presidential campaign
Post by: jmyrlefuller on November 12, 2019, 11:42:00 pm
Too bad.

He was at 2%, going on 3%...
Which is still better than some of the Democrats.
Title: Re: BREAKING: Mark Sanford suspends Presidential campaign
Post by: Smokin Joe on November 13, 2019, 10:17:31 am
Well said @truth_seeker
Welcome to TBR, y'all. :tongue2: