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Poll: Nearly half of Republicans think Trump should have authority to shutter media outlets
By Tal Axelrod - 08/07/18 01:04 PM EDT
Forty-three percent of Republicans think President Trump “should have the authority to close news outlets engaged in bad behavior,†while only 36 percent disagreed with the statement, according to an Ipsos poll released Tuesday.
A large number of Republicans polled also seem to take issue with the media in general, with 48 percent agreeing that the news media is “the enemy of the American people.†Seventy-nine percent said mainstream media outlets treat Trump “unfairly.â€
The Daily Beast first reported the poll results.
While Republicans criticized the media in higher numbers than Democrats and Independents, 12 percent of Democrats and 21 percent of Independents said the president should have the power to close down news operations “engaged in bad behavior.â€
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http://thehill.com/homenews/administration/400736-poll-nearly-half-of-republicans-think-trump-should-have-authority-to (http://thehill.com/homenews/administration/400736-poll-nearly-half-of-republicans-think-trump-should-have-authority-to)
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This is some scary $hit.
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Considering that most MSM outlets are open surrogates for the Rat party, who cares. There is no free press and there hasn't been for decades.
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Assuming this poll is accurate, be careful what you wish for. You just might get it
The media has already damaged itself in the eyes of the public. No president should be able to shut down media that’s hostile to them
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From the article....
“While Republicans criticized the media in higher numbers than Democrats and Independents, 12 percent of Democrats and 21 percent of Independents said the president should have the power to close down news operations “engaged in bad behavior.â€
These poll results will switch if a Democrat wins the presidency in the future
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Poll: Nearly half of Republicans think Trump should have authority to shutter media outlets
By Tal Axelrod - 08/07/18 01:04 PM EDT
Forty-three percent of Republicans think President Trump “should have the authority to close news outlets engaged in bad behavior,†while only 36 percent disagreed with the statement, according to an Ipsos poll released Tuesday.
A large number of Republicans polled also seem to take issue with the media in general, with 48 percent agreeing that the news media is “the enemy of the American people.†Seventy-nine percent said mainstream media outlets treat Trump “unfairly.â€
The Daily Beast first reported the poll results.
While Republicans criticized the media in higher numbers than Democrats and Independents, 12 percent of Democrats and 21 percent of Independents said the president should have the power to close down news operations “engaged in bad behavior.â€
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http://thehill.com/homenews/administration/400736-poll-nearly-half-of-republicans-think-trump-should-have-authority-to (http://thehill.com/homenews/administration/400736-poll-nearly-half-of-republicans-think-trump-should-have-authority-to)
I am not among those who would give this, or any, president the authority to "shutter" news outlets but I sure as hell would like to know exactly who is propping up outlets that the public has long since left to their fate!
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Sorry, Journalists: Trump Isn’t The First President To Threaten The Press
From John Adams to JFK, we've had plenty of dishonest presidents who waged war with the media. The press shouldn't pretend Trump is an anomaly.
By D.C. McAllister
January 24, 2017
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Trump’s Behavior Is Nothing New
Still, you might say, Trump’s behavior is unlike anything we’ve ever seen. Let me address this by framing his actions in a historical context. Trump’s brash style might be unprecedented. His use of social media and Twitter, in particular, is new. But there have been presidents in the past who lied with a smile, who silenced the press with a finger to the lips or a cup to the ear, who used modern technology to their advantage (Roosevelt with the radio and John F. Kennedy with television are just two examples).
You might find it interesting to know, given the dismay reporters are showing over Trump’s consideration of canceling or reducing televised news conferences, that Kennedy was the first to broadcast news conferences. And you know what? Journalists hated it. They called it anarchy. They longed for the days of FDR’s cozy press conferences, and they railed against the dog-and-pony show of the televised press conferences.
Additionally, news conferences are really a modern phenomena, and our Republic survived without them. Until Theodore Roosevelt, reporters had to submit their questions in writing to the president. Sometimes he answered, and sometimes he didn’t. I’m sure that irritated many a journalist wanting to “speak truth to power.â€
Trump Is Nothing to Adams’ 1798 Sedition Act
Full Article Below:
http://thefederalist.com/2017/01/24/sorry-journalists-trump-isnt-first-president-threaten-press/ (http://thefederalist.com/2017/01/24/sorry-journalists-trump-isnt-first-president-threaten-press/)
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Assuming this poll is accurate, be careful what you wish for. You just might get it
The media has already damaged itself in the eyes of the public. No president should be able to shut down media that’s hostile to them
People would care if there was a real press in this country but there is not. You got circus acts like Bezo and the Sultzbergers using them as in kind in kind donations to the Rat party.
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Sorry, Journalists: Trump Isn’t The First President To Threaten The Press
From John Adams to JFK, we've had plenty of dishonest presidents who waged war with the media. The press shouldn't pretend Trump is an anomaly.
By D.C. McAllister
January 24, 2017
<..snip..>
Trump’s Behavior Is Nothing New
Still, you might say, Trump’s behavior is unlike anything we’ve ever seen. Let me address this by framing his actions in a historical context. Trump’s brash style might be unprecedented. His use of social media and Twitter, in particular, is new. But there have been presidents in the past who lied with a smile, who silenced the press with a finger to the lips or a cup to the ear, who used modern technology to their advantage (Roosevelt with the radio and John F. Kennedy with television are just two examples).
You might find it interesting to know, given the dismay reporters are showing over Trump’s consideration of canceling or reducing televised news conferences, that Kennedy was the first to broadcast news conferences. And you know what? Journalists hated it. They called it anarchy. They longed for the days of FDR’s cozy press conferences, and they railed against the dog-and-pony show of the televised press conferences.
Additionally, news conferences are really a modern phenomena, and our Republic survived without them. Until Theodore Roosevelt, reporters had to submit their questions in writing to the president. Sometimes he answered, and sometimes he didn’t. I’m sure that irritated many a journalist wanting to “speak truth to power.â€
Trump Is Nothing to Adams’ 1798 Sedition Act
Full Article Below:
http://thefederalist.com/2017/01/24/sorry-journalists-trump-isnt-first-president-threaten-press/ (http://thefederalist.com/2017/01/24/sorry-journalists-trump-isnt-first-president-threaten-press/)
I don't give a s**t who did it first. It is just plain wrong.
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Assuming this poll is accurate, be careful what you wish for. You just might get it
The media has already damaged itself in the eyes of the public. No president should be able to shut down media that’s hostile to them
True. If a Republican president can shut down news outlets he thinks have treated him unfairly, then so can a Democratic president. And we'll get one back in the WH again at some future date.
Apparently, many people on both sides of the political equation are polishing their hobnailed boots.
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It is indeed a slippery slope and if #FakeNews becomes more than just another tired ol cliché like #BuildTheWall and #LockHerUP our Republic is in more serious trouble than I thought.
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It is interesting this 'poll' comes out as a 'bipartisan' effort is underway in the Congress to put the internet under Government control.
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Poll up.
http://www.gopbriefingroom.com/index.php/topic,327552.0.html (http://www.gopbriefingroom.com/index.php/topic,327552.0.html)
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It is interesting this 'poll' comes out as a 'bipartisan' effort is underway in the Congress to put the internet under Government control.
Timing is coincidental isn't it.
The Democrats start circulating a memo within the past few weeks about taking over and regulating social media like a public utility.
Then, suddenly, something happens that gets the Republican masses on board with the Democrat plan (without realizing it).
I don't wear tinfoil hats and such, but if I did, this one would sure smell funny. (remember the old conspiracy theory that Alex Jones was really a CIA op)?
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True. If a Republican president can shut down news outlets he thinks have treated him unfairly, then so can a Democratic president. And we'll get on back in the WH again at some future date.
Apparently, many people on both sides of the political equation are polishing their hobnailed boots.
Hell, the next Democratic President will shut down Talk Radio like Clinton tried to do.
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Hell, the next Democratic President will shut down Talk Radio like Clinton tried to do.
What about political forums? They are also considered social media and just a few years ago, some touted them as just as powerful as the big players.
https://www.entrepreneur.com/article/223493 (https://www.entrepreneur.com/article/223493)
I can just imagine what would happen if that can of worms is open.
Be careful what you ask the government to give you, because they will give it to you good and hard.
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This is some scary $hit.
Only if... fake/BS polls frighten you.
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Only if... fake/BS polls frighten you.
We have members here who have come out clearly thinking that they should be regulated like public utilities. If you go over to a certain other political forum, the opinion is overwhelmingly stacked toward the government not just regulating but going so far as nationalizing them in the public interest.
From social media threads and comments I've seen on the right, this poll falls in line with what many are thinking now. They want big brother to make things fair for them.
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This is some scary $hit.
Yes, it is.
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Hell, the next Democratic President will shut down Talk Radio like Clinton tried to do.
They had literally achieved that before the deregulation that occurred in the eighties that propelled Limbaugh and the other conservative talk radio big names into superstardom or something close to it.
They used to have some sort of rule (can't remember the name..."fairness doctrine" ?) that said that if someone on the airwaves voiced a political opinion, there had to be someone there voicing the opposite opinion.
And they're itching to do it again.
But it is not the duty of the media to be cheerleaders for whomever is president. I'd rather have an adversarial press than one that has its snout up the hindquarters of the POTUS.
What we should have is a Republican president who, while citing the media for their numerous errors and biases, refrains from calling them evil.
The leftist media (or the media) is mostly made up of lying, leftist scoundrels.
But that's beside the point....we don't need the president deciding who gets to print or be aired. That's fascism in the making.
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Be careful what you ask the government to give you, because they will give it to you good and hard.
The Sand won't be optional either.
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We have members here who have come out clearly thinking that they should be regulated like public utilities. If you go over to a certain other political forum, the opinion is overwhelmingly stacked toward the government not just regulating but going so far as nationalizing them in the public interest.
From social media threads and comments I've seen on the right, this poll falls in line with what many are thinking now. They want big brother to make things fair for them.
Um.... you do realize, don't you.... that "most" right-leaning Americans don't participate in polls and in fact, many or most have never even been polled (myself included). Most of them are too busy working their asses off to take a stupid online poll OR to make comments on a political forum.
This poll by no means represents the opinions of 'half' of Republicans, dude. Get real.
It's fake/phony/BS.
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Um.... you do realize, don't you.... that "most" right-leaning Americans don't participate in polls and in fact, many or most have never even been polled (myself included). Most of them are too busy working their asses off to take a stupid online poll OR to make comments on a political forum.
This poll by no means represents the opinions of 'half' of Republicans, dude. Get real.
It's fake/phony/BS.
Citation?
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We have members here who have come out clearly thinking that they should be regulated like public utilities. If you go over to a certain other political forum, the opinion is overwhelmingly stacked toward the government not just regulating but going so far as nationalizing them in the public interest.
From social media threads and comments I've seen on the right, this poll falls in line with what many are thinking now. They want big brother to make things fair for them.
That is what happens when a people choose a king/dictator/cult of personality as their political messiah and national leader.
Government becomes God, and it doesn't matter whether it is the 'Left' that wants it or the self-identifying 'Right' that wants it.
The end result is the same: liberty dies - to thunderous applause.
As long as it is their guy killing it.
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Citation?
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Citation?
Citation???
Please don't tell me... that you actually believe that the Ipsos poll literally polled "all Republicans, which would only then allow them to them posit that "nearly half" of Republicans are for Trump doing what would be unconstitutional. I could see the Democrats agreeing to that, but even then... the poll was of under 400 folks from each faction (Reps, Dems, Independents).
These polls, (https://www.ipsos.com/en-us/news-polls/americans-views-media-2018-08-07 (https://www.ipsos.com/en-us/news-polls/americans-views-media-2018-08-07)
and this one in particular) are bullsquat, and I'm being nice here.
The sample includes 323 Democrats, 363 Republicans, and 207 Independents.
Some of the limits of public support for freedom of the press are made stark with a quarter of Americans (26%) saying they agree “the president should have the authority to close news outlets engaged in bad behavior,†including a plurality of Republicans (43%).
https://www.ipsos.com/en-us/news-polls/americans-views-media-2018-08-07 (https://www.ipsos.com/en-us/news-polls/americans-views-media-2018-08-07)
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I agree, I don't believe these polls, DNC psyops again. Why believe it? I'm waiting for some agency like News Busters to bust this.
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Please don't tell me... that you actually believe that the Ipsos poll literally polled "all Republicans, which would only then allow them to them posit that "nearly half" of Republicans are for Trump doing what would be unconstitutional. I could see the Democrats agreeing to that, but even then... the poll was of under 400 folks from each faction (Reps, Dems, Independents).
There is merit in noting those things as likely. However - there are a good number of Trump supporters on social media and Facebook in particular that I have read who have opined about their desire to have Trump take over or shut down the 'fake news media'. I do not know if that is an indicator that the percentages of Republicans who would embrace such a thing is half of those polled, but I'm astounded to read it from lifelong Republicans I have known for decades. Things they would have gone absolutely batshit crazy out-of-their-minds about had the Leftists suggested something similar.
But because they now sound like parrots 'Fake news! Fake news!' they have decided it is the role of government to silence those things they have decided are 'fake', as long as it is Trump doing it. They have literally said that Trump needs to 'level the playing field'.
Where have we read that justification for big government before?
It is funny to read those comments considering it was not long ago that a lot of these people were beside themselves when the Democrats were pushing the idea of licensing journalists and excluding free speech and press rights to anyone not licensed.
But - now that we have a Trumpian version of this idea floating out there - it's interesting to read how many whom were upset then, support it now.
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From 2016, maybe this qualifies as a citation:
June 17, 2016
Evidence for massive liberal bias in Ipsos polling of the Trump vs. Clinton match-up
By Sierra Rayne
Stepping out of reality into the rapidly expanding landfill of polling data biased against Donald Trump reveals what a disaster is taking place when it comes to surveying the public's actual opinion -- rather than the desired liberal narrative -- about the 2016 general election.
Public Policy Polling (PPP) has released yet another state poll on the Trump versus Hillary Clinton match-up, this time for Virginia. Yesterday's article examined a range of PPP's state-level polling data in the Trump v. Clinton cage match, revealing some apparently serious liberal bias. The Virginia poll just adds to the concerns.
Read more: https://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2016/06/evidence_for_massive_liberal_bias_in_ipsos_polling_of_the_trump_vs_clinton_matchup.html#ixzz5NWdAEZ5o (https://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2016/06/evidence_for_massive_liberal_bias_in_ipsos_polling_of_the_trump_vs_clinton_matchup.html#ixzz5NWdAEZ5o)
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No and hell no. If you don't like it don't watch/listen/read.
For that matter, look what outlets like CNN do to the leftist cause every time they shill for them. They practically stick C4 in their mouths and detonate.
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There is merit in noting those things as likely. However - there are a good number of Trump supporters on social media and Facebook in particular that I have read who have opined about their desire to have Trump take over or shut down the 'fake news media'. I do not know if that is an indicator that the percentages of Republicans who would embrace such a thing is half of those polled, but I'm astounded to read it from lifelong Republicans I have known for decades. Things they would have gone absolutely batshit crazy out-of-their-minds about had the Leftists suggested something similar.
But because they now sound like parrots 'Fake news! Fake news!' they have decided it is the role of government to silence those things they have decided are 'fake', as long as it is Trump doing it. They have literally said that Trump needs to 'level the playing field'.
Where have we read that justification for big government before?
It is funny to read those comments considering it was not long ago that a lot of these people were beside themselves when the Democrats were pushing the idea of licensing journalists and excluding free speech and press rights to anyone not licensed.
But - now that we have a Trumpian version of this idea floating out there - it's interesting to read how many whom were upset then, support it now.
Seriously.... I wouldn't fret about it. I do not believe... facebook and twittering twits' comments aside... that "nearly half" of Republicans are for Trump doing something that totalitarian and unconstitutional.
And... maybe it's just because of the state being Texas (???), but none of my relatives/family, friends, neighbors or co-workers have been "polled" either. It was one of my pet peeves at one time, which prompted me to ask. Funny/odd, eh? Almost like the pollsters don't 'want' the opinions of someone from Texas....
for some reason.
Again.... FAKE.
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One of the many reasons I am no longer a "Republican."
Our side now wants what only their side used to want. **nononono*