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General Category => Editorial/Opinion/Blogs => Topic started by: happyg on November 11, 2013, 03:46:18 pm
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President Barack Obama's sliding popularity because of Obamacare's problematic rollout will likely complicate White House efforts to garner support for other key second term goals: immigration reform, expansion of access to early-childhood education, and raising the minimum wage, The Wall Street Journal reported.
Obama is viewed personally positive by 41 percent of Americans compared to 45 percent who see him in a negative light. This is Obama's record low as president, according to the latest Wall Street Journal/NBC News poll.
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Opinion on his performance as president is also sliding. Just 42 percent of those polled approved of the way he is handling his job with 51 percent disapproving.
Lou D'Allesandro, deputy Democratic leader in the New Hampshire Senate said, "His credibility is hurt, because he said things that aren't quite true," a reference to Obama's vow that no one would lose their health plans under the Affordable Care Act. "Unless a couple of dramatic things happen, he could be a lame duck by January."
Former President George W. Bush had a 36 percent approval rating at a comparable point in his second term in the wake of Hurricane Katrina. Former President Bill Clinton was popular with 58 percent of the public and Ronald Reagan with 62 percent at a comparable point in their presidencies.
Obama's second term agenda may also suffer as Democratic lawmakers and groups that share his philosophy — on immigration reform, for instance — distance themselves from the president over concerns that Obamacare's troubles could harm their political prospects, according to the Journal.
Meanwhile, the level of GOP disapproval makes it difficult for the president to build a bipartisan coalition for his legislative initiatives, the Journal reported.
Obama acknowledged the current state of affairs in a recent Texas appearance.
"Sometimes I worry, because everybody had such a fun experience in '08 at least, that's how it seemed in retrospect." Obama said. And 'yes we can' and the slogans and the posters, et cetera — sometimes I worry that people forget change in this country has always been hard."
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I really don't think he cares -- so long as he can play golf, get high, go on nice vacations, and make some speeches in front of appreciative crowds now and then, he's happy.
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It would be great to stomp the dems as badly in 14 and 16, as they did us, in 06 and 08.
Of course they were unified, and worked the same plan. And it worked.
I'm not optimistic based on what I see from the GOP, post 2010, having a civil war out in the open for all to see.
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What's going to be interesting is watching the Hildebeest try to come riding in like some kind of Great White Hope to save the party from Obama, and have Joe Biden challenge her for the nomination. An old white guy and an old white lady slugging it out to inherit Obama's version of Amerika...
But I see nobody in the Republican Party that can command a National campaign; at least not yet. I fear things will have to get a lot worse before the press actually starts to turn on Obama, and when they do he will be much more than just a Lame Duck. If the press ever decided to do their frickin' jobs they could run this guy out of the White House faster than they ran old Tricky Dick out. The question is, will there be anything left of the Country worth saving by then??
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It would be great to stomp the dems as badly in 14 and 16, as they did us, in 06 and 08.
Of course they were unified, and worked the same plan. And it worked.
I'm not optimistic based on what I see from the GOP, post 2010, having a civil war out in the open for all to see.
I guess you slept through the 2010 election when the TEA PARTY kicked butt and took back congress.
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I really don't think he cares -- so long as he can play golf, get high, go on nice vacations, and make some speeches in front of appreciative crowds now and then, he's happy.
You nailed it Fish. Obama cares about nothing but Obama. The only reason he seems to 'care' about Obamacare and health is only about how it reflects on him and how it gives him power, and not how it 'helps people'. Obamacare is more about government control and power than it is about 'health'.
He has already done what he wanted to do. He has smacked America down, put America in it's place, and made America more like the rest of the world. That was his primary mission and he has done it.
Even if Obamacare fails, Obama will personally believe that he was successful with his personal mission achieved. Then he can get high and play golf the rest of his life, and leave the mess to others to try to clean up after he is long gone.
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I guess you slept through the 2010 election when the TEA PARTY kicked butt and took back congress.
Correction. The GOP took back the House, but lost the Senate precisely because of such lame Tea Party candidates as Sharron Angle, Ken Buck, and Christine O'Donnell.
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Correction. The GOP took back the House, but lost the Senate precisely because of such lame Tea Party candidates as Sharron Angle, Ken Buck, and Christine O'Donnell.
And the refusal of the GOP leadership to support them. Seems something like that just happened again, in VA. It's long past time the GOP leadership and moderate republicans relearned the 11th Commandment and the purpose behind its creation: making moderate Republicans start pulling for the team by stopping the vitriol and hatred they poured - and now continue to pour - on conservative members of the GOP. The 11th Commandment was never meant for conservatives or other minorities within the GOP, it was meant for the moderates and the leadership in the GOP. Go read up on it.
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And the refusal of the GOP leadership to support them. Seems something like that just happened again, in VA. It's long past time the GOP leadership and moderate republicans relearned the 11th Commandment and the purpose behind its creation: making moderate Republicans start pulling for the team by stopping the vitriol and hatred they poured - and now continue to pour - on conservative members of the GOP. The 11th Commandment was never meant for conservatives or other minorities within the GOP, it was meant for the moderates and the leadership in the GOP. Go read up on it.
The 11th Commandment applies to ALL Republicans, not just moderates. But you know that, since it's been pointed out to you over and over and over.
I've read up on it. You're flat-assed wrong. When Ronald Reagan invoked it, he applied it to EVERY Republican.
Republicans, by themselves, cannot win elections. They need Independents, and Independents didn't support the Witch in Rhode Island, or Angle or Buck. Dick Lugar would easily have won re-election in 2012, but Tea Partiers supported Richard Murdock who beat Lugar, then promptly shoved his foot in his mouth on rape.
So, it works both ways.
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I've read up on it. You're flat-assed wrong. When Ronald Reagan invoked it, he applied it to EVERY Republican.
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Then you haven't read a damned thing, or you've been reading the wrong things, because you don't know a damned thing sonny boy.
First, Ronald Reagan didn't create the 11th Commandment, Gaylord Parkinson, who was at the time chairman of the California Republican Party. That this is the unvarnished truth is testified to by Reagan himself, in his 1990 autobiography. See Reagan, Ronald Wilson. An American Life, Simon and Schuster, 1990, p. 150.
Second, Gaylord Parkinson came up with the 11th Commandment in order to avoid a repetition of liberal Republican assaults on Barry Goldwater in 1964.
Go blow it out your a$$ sonny boy and try reading some real history next time - for the first time.
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Then you haven't read a damned thing, or you've been reading the wrong things, because you don't know a damned thing sonny boy.
First, Ronald Reagan didn't create the 11th Commandment, Gaylord Parkinson, who was at the time chairman of the California Republican Party. That this is the unvarnished truth is testified to by Reagan himself, in his 1990 autobiography. See Reagan, Ronald Wilson. An American Life, Simon and Schuster, 1990, p. 150.
Second, Gaylord Parkinson came up with the 11th Commandment in order to avoid a repetition of liberal Republican assaults on Barry Goldwater in 1964.
Go blow it out your a$$ sonny boy and try reading some real history next time - for the first time.
I read your reference from Wikipedia. Ronald Reagan popularized the 11th Commandment; nobody even knows who the hell Parkinson is or was. And Reagan applied it to EVERY Republican.
I'll ignore your nastiness. For now.
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It would be great to stomp the dems as badly in 14 and 16, as they did us, in 06 and 08.
Of course they were unified, and worked the same plan. And it worked.
I'm not optimistic based on what I see from the GOP, post 2010, having a civil war out in the open for all to see.
The dems are not unified, that's the reason all the hype of disorganized republicans. Classic misdirection for cover.
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Go blow it out your a$$ sonny boy and try reading some real history next time - for the first time.
Wow. And all I said to Lipstick was "Unnecessary".
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I guess the 11th only applies to conservatives and not people like McConnell or McCain who are calling the conservative members of the GOP names like "whacko birds." got it...
and deny all you want the 2010 election was a sea change election and a total surprise to most observers who ignored the tea party........
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Yeah, Ocean! A little bit! A little bit! You insulted him.....a little bit!
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I guess you slept through the 2010 election when the TEA PARTY kicked butt and took back congress.
In your haste, you obviously failed to notice "post 2010" in my writing.
The next election will determine if the Tea Party is a one-hit wonder, or if it is sustainable.
They lay dormant in 2012.
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It would be great to stomp the dems as badly in 14 and 16, as they did us, in 06 and 08.
Of course they were unified, and worked the same plan. And it worked.
I'm not optimistic based on what I see from the GOP, post 2010, having a civil war out in the open for all to see.
"Unified"-to you- is everyone coming on board with McCain and Co. That is never going to happen, so why don't you pick another subject to beat to death?
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In your haste, you obviously failed to notice "post 2010" in my writing.
The next election will determine if the Tea Party is a one-hit wonder, or if it is sustainable.
They lay dormant in 2012.
The Tea Party was hampered by the IRS holding up their requests for non profit status.
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Happy, don't let facts get in the way of a good obsession.
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They lay dormant in 2012.
No, they did not. This is precisely the issue with the IRS. It purposefully held up Tea Party applications for tax exempt status in order to remove them as players in the 2012 election. I can assure you my local Tea Party was revved up and ready to go but we have been waiting THREE years for approval.
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Happy, don't let facts get in the way of a good obsession.
:silly: The obvious is generally ignored.
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"Unified"-to you- is everyone coming on board with McCain and Co. That is never going to happen, so why don't you pick another subject to beat to death?
And, to you, unified means all Republicans lining up behind Ted Cruz. That is never going to happen, either.
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In case you haven't noticed, it isn't the Cruz types that are constantly whining about GOP unification.
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The Tea Party was hampered by the IRS holding up their requests for non profit status.
FYI I served as Treasurer, for a PAC, and we didn't wait, we started and proceeded in anticipation that our applications would be approved.
We applied to the California Secretary of State, not to the IRS.
My PAC sent me to an attorney, that specialized in such matters. He basically gave me a cookbook.
We won more than we lost. Never audited, end of story.
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Fascinating. And that has exactly WHAT to do with the suppression of the Tea Party and other conservative groups around the country??
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And, to you, unified means all Republicans lining up behind Ted Cruz. That is never going to happen, either.
If he should happen to get the nomination in 2016, anyone in the Republican party NOT lining up behind Ted Cruz will be responsible for the continued destruction of America by Marxists.
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If he should happen to get the nomination in 2016, anyone in the Republican party NOT lining up behind Ted Cruz will be responsible for the continued destruction of America by Marxists.
:amen:
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In case you haven't noticed, it isn't the Cruz types that are constantly whining about GOP unification.
Because the Cruz-types don't care about unification. It's his way or the highway.
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If he should happen to get the nomination in 2016, anyone in the Republican party NOT lining up behind Ted Cruz will be responsible for the continued destruction of America by Marxists.
Ted Cruz is not going to get the nomination. Not unless he does a helluva lot of fence mending in the next three years.
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Ted Cruz is not going to get the nomination. Not unless he does a helluva lot of fence mending in the next three years.
It was a hypothetical, sinkspur, and you know it. Your comment is a diversion from the point.
IF Cruz gets the nomination, stubborn guys like you are going to have to give up their pride and support him, or be responsible for the furtherance of Marxism in this country.
And IF Cruz gets the nomination, you'll need to eat your words, and bury your hatred of him, and realize that HE wants what's best for this country.
btw, there's a whole lotta so-called "Republicans" who are going to be as responsible for mending those fences as Cruz is.
The public attacks on him are, IMO, unforgiveable and played right into the hands of the filthy leftist machine.
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:silly: The obvious is generally ignored....
...by the oblivious.
The Senate is a rogue operation created by the 17th amendment and beholden only to K Street.
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...by the oblivious.
The Senate is a rogue operation created by the 17th amendment and beholden only to K Street.
and therein lies the crux of the problem.
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I read your reference from Wikipedia. Ronald Reagan popularized the 11th Commandment; nobody even knows who the hell Parkinson is or was. And Reagan applied it to EVERY Republican.
I'll ignore your nastiness. For now.
Bravo. However, you still miss the glaringly obvious. First off, Reagan knew very well who Parkinson was, and so did a lot of other people - being the chairman of a state political organization tends to get you noticed, dontcha know - so the mere fact that you have no clue who he was is utterly and totally irrelevant to the purpose behind the 11th Commandment. Second off, Reagan did not consistently apply it and in fact took the gloves off after he got kicked in the kazoo by Ford during the 1976 primaries. That easily puts the lie to your claim that Reagan applied it to everyone; not even Reagan is an unvarnished measure for how to apply the 11th Commandment.
Third off - and back to the main point - everyone, and I mean everyone, back in the day knew who created the 11th Commandment and why he created it: to put the kibosh on the vitriolic attacks of liberal (aka moderate) republicans on anyone who didn't pass their lounge-lizard test (i.e., more conservative republicans). That conservative republicans should acknowledge the 11th Commandment and strive to follow it goes without saying - they are more than capable of rising above their hateful moderate brethren and should do so - but that does not change the basic facts. The 11th Commandment was created to muzzle liberal/moderate republicans, it was not created to muzzle conservative republicans. That is a fact and no amount of whinging on your part will change it. Furthermore, attacks by liberal/moderate republicans on more conservative republicans do substantially more damage to the party as a whole than do attacks by more conservative republicans on liberal/moderate republicans. The republican ecosystem is rife with liberal/moderate republicans who continue to be re-elected time after time no matter how much conservative republicans denigrate them. There are precious few conservative republicans who manage to survive a concerted attack by liberal/moderate republicans, even if - as was demonstrated in Virginia - such a conservative republican enjoys a fairly large degree of approval.
In other words, attacks by conservative republicans on liberal/moderate republicans do not generally threaten the GOP's political positions or the balance of power in Congress because those attacks rarely lead to the electoral defeat of the liberal/moderate being attacked; attacks by liberal/moderate republicans on conservative republicans can be seriously detrimental to the GOP's political positions and the balance of power in Congress because a conservative republican who is rejected by the mainline GOP leadership - who are all liberal/moderate republicans - generally fails to get elected. Again, see Virginia.
These are facts, blunt facts, and no amount of crying on your part will change them. These facts clearly demonstrate not only that the 11th Commandment was intended primarily to muzzle the vitriol of liberal/moderate republicans, they also demonstrate why that was, and is, a very good idea: because intraparty attacks by liberal/moderate republicans do substantially more damage to the party as a whole, and the balance of power in Congress, than do intraparty attacks by conservative republicans.
As for your ignorance, feigned or real, of my "nastiness" - you've got me shivering in my shoes, I can't wait to see what you'll dish out once you get over your ignorance. Come to think of it, you sound an awful lot like a liberal/moderate republican putting on his dutch courage and announcing that, next time, once "we" win, "we'll" take on the democrats and beat them; once we win, then we'll repeal Obamacare, etc, etc, etc, ad nauseam.
Bring it on baby, I'll take some nastiness over your all too real ignorance any day of the week.
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It's because the conservatives fear loss more than the lounge lizard wing. It's like the old psychology point, the individual with the most to lose, has the least power.
If the bond holders and stock mavens get a good return on investment, they couldn't care less if A. Schicklegruber is at the reins. The business repubs are the ones Kruschev mocked about giving them enough rope.
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If they get amnesty before the 2014 elections....all bets are off. They will win the both houses for sure.
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If they get amnesty before the 2014 elections....all bets are off. They will win the both houses for sure.
You are most like correct. However, if they don't get citizenship, it will be a toss-up, and I have no clue. A lot of people are catching on to what the immigration bill means for Americans.