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Title: Trump says he may break up 9th Circuit Court after rulings go against him
Post by: mystery-ak on April 26, 2017, 10:06:44 pm
Trump says he may break up 9th Circuit Court after rulings go against him
By John Bowden - 04/26/17 05:32 PM EDT

President Trump is considering breaking up the 9th Circuit Court after a federal district court judge in its jurisdiction blocked his order to withhold funding from "sanctuary cities."

In a Wednesday interview with the Washington Examiner, Trump said "there are many people who want to break up the 9th Circuit. It's outrageous."

In the interview, Trump accused liberals of "judge-shopping" for a court that would strike down his executive order.

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http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/330757-trump-says-hes-absolutely-considering-breaking-up-court-that-blocked
Title: Re: Trump says he may break up 9th Circuit Court after rulings go against him
Post by: Frank Cannon on April 26, 2017, 10:10:25 pm
And if he did no one would care.
Title: Re: Trump says he may break up 9th Circuit Court after rulings go against him
Post by: DiogenesLamp on April 26, 2017, 10:16:26 pm
And if he did no one would care.


I wouldn't say that,   but it wouldn't bother me at all that the people who care about it wouldn't like it.   


Yes,  i'm quite sure a lot of California Liberals will be appalled at the idea,   but I like it when they get the opposite of what they want. 

Title: Re: Trump says he may break up 9th Circuit Court after rulings go against him
Post by: Wingnut on April 26, 2017, 10:23:48 pm
There was a plan out there to divide/split it into a more  geographic representative court.   Not sure what that was all about.   
Title: Re: Trump says he may break up 9th Circuit Court after rulings go against him
Post by: Frank Cannon on April 26, 2017, 10:25:47 pm
There was a plan out there to divide/split it into a more  geographic representative court.   Not sure what that was all about.

It's about dividing and splitting the court into a more geographically representative entity.
Title: Re: Trump says he may break up 9th Circuit Court after rulings go against him
Post by: Wingnut on April 26, 2017, 10:29:00 pm
It's about dividing and splitting the court into a more geographically representative entity.

So It's about dividing and splitting the court into a more geographically representative thing.
Title: Re: Trump says he may break up 9th Circuit Court after rulings go against him
Post by: corbe on April 26, 2017, 10:43:09 pm
  Frank as usual has it bass a$$ backwards, it's about splitting the court into a more Representative Geographically entity.
Title: Re: Trump says he may break up 9th Circuit Court after rulings go against him
Post by: skeeter on April 26, 2017, 10:48:40 pm
Now I'm confused as hell.
Title: Re: Trump says he may break up 9th Circuit Court after rulings go against him
Post by: Bigun on April 26, 2017, 10:54:35 pm
The president has absolutely no say in this.  It is entirely up to the congress what does or doesn't happen to any fedral court other than SCOTUS.
Title: Re: Trump says he may break up 9th Circuit Court after rulings go against him
Post by: musiclady on April 26, 2017, 10:58:38 pm
The president has absolutely no say in this.  It is entirely up to the congress what does or doesn't happen to any fedral court other than SCOTUS.

I thought so.

More Trump braggadocio with no substance behind it.

He knows people don't like the 9th Circus, so he brags that he can break it up.


But he can't.
Title: Re: Trump says he may break up 9th Circuit Court after rulings go against him
Post by: Cripplecreek on April 26, 2017, 11:05:17 pm
I thought so.

More Trump braggadocio with no substance behind it.

He knows people don't like the 9th Circus, so he brags that he can break it up.


But he can't.

Even if he could, we would just end up with two full courts instead of one.
Title: Re: Trump says he may break up 9th Circuit Court after rulings go against him
Post by: DiogenesLamp on April 26, 2017, 11:05:38 pm
The president has absolutely no say in this.  It is entirely up to the congress what does or doesn't happen to any fedral court other than SCOTUS.


This is what I was thinking,  and with these milquetoasts in charge,  I doubt any significant action will be taken. 

Title: Re: Trump says he may break up 9th Circuit Court after rulings go against him
Post by: truth_seeker on April 26, 2017, 11:32:34 pm
The Federal Court Districts as well as the Federal Reserve Districts were established long ago when the West was only a small population, compared to the Northeast.

They have never been adjusted, hence they are disproportionately large in both population and geographic areas covered.

It should be adjusted.
Title: Re: Trump says he may break up 9th Circuit Court after rulings go against him
Post by: ABX on April 28, 2017, 03:00:13 pm
He must have misspoke. He meant to say Congress should break up the 9th Circuit, not that he would... right?

"The judicial power of the United States, shall be vested in one Supreme Court, and in such inferior courts as the Congress may from time to time ordain and establish."


IE, he doesn't have the authority.
Title: Re: Trump says he may break up 9th Circuit Court after rulings go against him
Post by: libertybele on April 28, 2017, 05:29:11 pm
Ted Cruz: It’s ‘a possibility’ to break up the 9th Circuit Court

.........“I think there’s certainly a possibility,” Cruz said. “The 9th Circuit is the largest federal court of appeals. I think many of the western states are weighted down by California.”

“California has a ton of very liberal, left-wing judges that they put on the 9th Circuit. I think a lot of the other western states would love to be freed from that corrosive left-wing influence,” he continued. “I think that’s a topic I can easily see the [Senate] Judiciary Committee taking up, and we’ll have to see whether we have to votes to do that or not.”........

http://www.theblaze.com/news/2017/04/27/ted-cruz-its-a-possibility-to-break-up-the-9th-circuit-court/
Title: Re: Trump says he may break up 9th Circuit Court after rulings go against him
Post by: geronl on April 28, 2017, 06:17:26 pm
The 9th circuit should only encompass CA, WA and OR, in my opinion
Title: Re: Trump says he may break up 9th Circuit Court after rulings go against him
Post by: Cripplecreek on April 28, 2017, 06:28:07 pm
Ted Cruz: It’s ‘a possibility’ to break up the 9th Circuit Court

.........“I think there’s certainly a possibility,” Cruz said. “The 9th Circuit is the largest federal court of appeals. I think many of the western states are weighted down by California.”

“California has a ton of very liberal, left-wing judges that they put on the 9th Circuit. I think a lot of the other western states would love to be freed from that corrosive left-wing influence,” he continued. “I think that’s a topic I can easily see the [Senate] Judiciary Committee taking up, and we’ll have to see whether we have to votes to do that or not.”........

http://www.theblaze.com/news/2017/04/27/ted-cruz-its-a-possibility-to-break-up-the-9th-circuit-court/

That's a far cry from Trump doing it unilaterally.

Personally I'd like to see Montana, Idaho, and Nevada given to the 8th and 10th.

(http://i.imgur.com/1xNph8o.png)
Title: Re: Trump says he may break up 9th Circuit Court after rulings go against him
Post by: Fishrrman on April 29, 2017, 02:55:14 am
RE the map above.

California and Hawaii should be their own district.

Split Utah from the 10th and add Arizona and Nevada for another district.

Split Wyoming from the 10th, add Idaho, Montana and Alaska.

Oregon and Washington can become their own district.

Split Nebraska from the 8th and add it to the 10th.
Title: Re: Trump says he may break up 9th Circuit Court after rulings go against him
Post by: Weird Tolkienish Figure on April 29, 2017, 08:28:13 am
Trump is a dope, the President doesn't "break up" courts. Good lord this guy is a moron.

I'd have no problem breaking up the 9th but man, having this guy in charge is scary.
Title: Re: Trump says he may break up 9th Circuit Court after rulings go against him
Post by: Bigun on April 29, 2017, 01:53:41 pm
Every word Newt says here is true! Historical fact!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RiX1xVb82Vs&feature=youtu.be

Title: Re: Trump says he may break up 9th Circuit Court after rulings go against him
Post by: Free Vulcan on April 29, 2017, 04:40:10 pm
Done legallly and constitutionally, I'd make it happen. We are in a war with leftists. Kick their teeth in, bust their skulls, and chop 'em off at the knees. This will help.

Also, in that package Congress needs to pass language that makes a lower court ruling only valid in their jurisdiction, and must come up as a separate case to be valid in another. Only SCOTUS should determine nation wide application.
Title: Re: Trump says he may break up 9th Circuit Court after rulings go against him
Post by: Cyber Liberty on April 29, 2017, 05:26:21 pm
The 9th circuit should only encompass CA, WA and OR, in my opinion

It would be those states, plus HI and the US Possessions like Guam.  Since I'm in AZ that would be fine with me.
Title: Re: Trump says he may break up 9th Circuit Court after rulings go against him
Post by: Cyber Liberty on April 29, 2017, 05:28:12 pm
Every word Newt says here is true! Historical fact!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RiX1xVb82Vs&feature=youtu.be

I think going the extra step of dissolving the current Ninth and then replacing it with two new circuits would be a good idea.  We could douche all the Corruptocrats out completely that way. 
Title: Re: Trump says he may break up 9th Circuit Court after rulings go against him
Post by: Bigun on April 29, 2017, 05:43:48 pm
I think going the extra step of dissolving the current Ninth and then replacing it with two new circuits would be a good idea.  We could douche all the Corruptocrats out completely that way.

Exactamundo!
Title: Re: Trump says he may break up 9th Circuit Court after rulings go against him
Post by: Victoria33 on April 29, 2017, 05:43:57 pm
@mystery-ak
@Weird Tolkienish Figure

He has gone back to his "many people" say/do/want/will/will not/tell me, meaningless words when he wants to do something:

"there are many people who want to break up the 9th Circuit. It's outrageous."  If someone/a group, does something he doesn't like, he will try to remove them/destroy them.  If he gets this group of judges broken up, he will go after ANY judge in the future that he doesn't like.  He prefers to have NO judges so he can do what he wants, lawful or not.  If he had his way, he would remove all judges and all of congress; he is a dictator in his mind.  He is the worst president in history.  I don't think he will last four years.

A Bible scholar I know, believes Christ is likely to come back for his church, this coming June.  I hope that is true.
Title: Re: Trump says he may break up 9th Circuit Court after rulings go against him
Post by: Cyber Liberty on April 29, 2017, 05:50:39 pm
@mystery-ak
@Weird Tolkienish Figure

He has gone back to his "many people" say/do/want/will/will not/tell me, meaningless words when he wants to do something:

"there are many people who want to break up the 9th Circuit. It's outrageous."  If someone/a group, does something he doesn't like, he will try to remove them/destroy them.  If he gets this group of judges broken up, he will go after ANY judge in the future that he doesn't like.  He prefers to have NO judges so he can do what he wants, lawful or not.  If he had his way, he would remove all judges and all of congress; he is a dictator in his mind.  He is the worst president in history.  I don't think he will last four years.

A Bible scholar I know, believes Christ is likely to come back for his church, this coming June.  I hope that is true.

Dissolving or splitting the Ninth isn't in his power anyway, so I ignore his threats.  They're without substance.

I hope Jesus doesn't call in June...I'm not finished, and besides, I don't know if I'd get to go or not. :shrug: 
Title: Re: Trump says he may break up 9th Circuit Court after rulings go against him
Post by: Wingnut on April 30, 2017, 01:29:57 pm


I hope Jesus doesn't call in June...I'm not finished, and besides, I don't know if I'd get to go or not. :shrug:

You can wait with me  I'll be Waiting for the King
Down in the Jungle Room....
Title: Re: Trump says he may break up 9th Circuit Court after rulings go against him
Post by: Cripplecreek on April 30, 2017, 01:43:32 pm
You can wait with me  I'll be Waiting for the King
Down in the Jungle Room....

If we don't make it, maybe we'll be in good company.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B9FzVhw8_bY