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‘Things Have Shifted Dramatically’: Conservative Hispanic Leaders Explain Why Texas Voters Are Shifting Republican
Mary Margaret Olohan
Social Issues Reporter
May 07, 2021 8:29 PM ET
The Republican party in Texas is drawing Hispanic voters disillusioned by the Democratic party’s extreme values, two Hispanic Republican female leaders with Democratic backgrounds told the Daily Caller News Foundation.
“I am starting to see this need to connect with the Hispanic community and let them know nationwide that it’s the Republican party that offers opportunities,” Adrienne Pena-Garza, chair of the Hidalgo County Republican Party, told the DCNF.
“The Hispanic culture really aligns with pro-life, pro God, and pro country,” Republican Texas candidate Monica De La Cruz-Hernandez said. “Those are the values of the Republican party. Democrats have just simply gone too far to the left and towards socialism.”
The Republican party in Texas is drawing Hispanic voters disillusioned by the Democratic party’s extreme values, two female Hispanic Republican leaders with Democratic backgrounds told the Daily Caller News Foundation.
South Texas saw both a liberal decline and a conservative surge during the 2020 election, the New York Times reported, a surge that has emboldened Republicans hoping to win in Latino communities throughout the United States. Hispanic female Republicans are stepping up to the plate, the publication reported.
“I am starting to see this need to connect with the Hispanic community and let them know nationwide that it’s the Republican party that offers opportunities,” Adrienne Pena-Garza, chair of the Hidalgo County Republican Party, told the DCNF.
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https://dailycaller.com/2021/05/07/texas-gop-hispanic-voters-democrat/
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The Republican Party of Texas long ago recognized what was happening demographically in Texas and has been reaching out to Hispanics on a large scale for many years now. Apparently, all that is beginning to pay dividends.
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The Republican Party of Texas long ago recognized what was happening demographically in Texas and has been reaching out to Hispanics on a large scale for many years now. Apparently, all that is beginning to pay dividends.
Hoping so. Texas rats want to mess with TX.
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The Republican Party of Texas long ago recognized what was happening demographically in Texas and has been reaching out to Hispanics on a large scale for many years now. Apparently, all that is beginning to pay dividends.
I sure hope so.
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Believe it, its true.
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MajorClay wrote:
"Believe it, its true."
No.
I don't believe it.
There is no "magic dust" that converts Hispanics from their general mindset when they cross the border and enter Texas.
I did some quick searching on the 2020 election and found these results:
https://www.washingtonpost.com/elections/interactive/2020/exit-polls/texas-exit-polls/
Scrolling down, it looks like biden beat Mr. Trump with the Hispanic vote to the tune of 58-41%.
That means that for every two Hispanic voters for the Republicans, there are THREE Hispanics who are voting for the democrat-communists in Texas.
Those are NOT numbers you embrace if you want to win.
And I contend that with the current flood of illegals into TX, which the communists will shower with "free stuff", will increasingly lean to the left, carrying over after they're eventually amnesty'ed into voters.
And look at the demographics -- the number of Euro-white babies being born in Texas, vis-a-vis the number of babies being born to Hispanics, both legal and illegal.
These numbers don't portend well for the future.
I wish things were different, that Texas would remain a bulwark against the creeping but constant shift to the left, but I don't see that happening.
It's happened in Georgia already.
I believe that Mississippi looks to be getting dicey (the white proportion of the population vis-a-vis the black cohort has dropped significantly).
And Texas is in their sights, too.
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You live in Connecticut, Fishrrman, a state that is proof positive that your premise of whiteness = conservatism being flat false.
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You live in Connecticut, Fishrrman, a state that is proof positive that your premise of whiteness = conservatism being flat false.
All the Hispanics/Mexicans I know do not like abortion, transgender, homosexual normality, communist BLM, or any of all the perverted crap coming from the Democrats.
Sí se puede! Los venceremos! Vamos a salir victoriosos!!
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All the Hispanics/Mexicans I know do not like abortion, transgender, homosexual normality, communist BLM, or any of all the perverted crap coming from the Democrats.
Sí se puede! Los venceremos! Vamos a salir victoriosos!!
Part of the problem is a sizable number of Hispanics are Catholic and that church is off the wall liberal.
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The Republican Party of Texas long ago recognized what was happening demographically in Texas and has been reaching out to Hispanics on a large scale for many years now. Apparently, all that is beginning to pay dividends.
@Bigun
Isn't it possible that they are just like you and I...experiencing the effects of Ronald Reagan after Jimmy Carter while we were setting up our careers and chasing the American Dream?
That's what I attribute to this generation/wave of Hispanics in the U.S.A. who lean Republican.
Ronald Reagan certainly made me a Republican.
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How Texas' Longtime Democratic And Heavily Latino County Flipped Red
https://www.npr.org/2020/11/05/931836590/how-texas-longtime-democratic-and-heavily-latino-county-flipped-red
Primarily Democratic Texas border county with 96% Latino population brings in more Republican votes during 2020 election
Biden squeaked ahead of Trump by only five points
https://www.ksat.com/news/local/2020/11/06/primarily-democratic-texas-border-county-with-96-latino-population-brings-in-more-republican-votes-during-2020-election/
Analysis: In Rural Hispanic Counties, Vote Moved toward Trump
https://dailyyonder.com/analysis-in-rural-hispanic-counties-vote-moved-toward-trump/2020/12/09/
Hispanic voters helped decide the election — and not just in Miami-Dade
https://www.vox.com/21549607/latino-hispanic-vote-2020-trump-biden-arizona-florida
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Part of the problem is a sizable number of Hispanics are Catholic and that church is off the wall liberal.
Very true. But I doubt that a single pervert Pope can change thousands of years of history.
Obviously, to everyone, the current Pope is not Catholic at all. In fact he has no religion.
We shall see how this works out. But playing with GOD and Religion is a dangerous hobby.
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MajorClay wrote:
"Believe it, its true."
No.
I don't believe it.
There is no "magic dust" that converts Hispanics from their general mindset when they cross the border and enter Texas.
@Fishrrman
I may be wrong,but *I* read that statement as implying AMERICAN Hispanics were turning away from the Dims,and towards conservatism. After all,illegal aliens aren't supposed to be able to vote.
The only thing that surprised me about this is that American His and Her Panics were considered to be Dim voters. I know that I lived in a "Mexican neighborhood" in Denver,and damn near every neighbor I had contact with had VERY conservative outlooks. I don't believe they were role-playing with me,either. After all,who was I to be important enough to lie to about something like that?
I also got along GREAT with at least 90 percent of the people in that neighborhood that I came into personal contact with. I found them all to be VERY friendly and helpful people. MAYBE a part of that is due to me being 1/4 American Indian and having black eyes,but I am not very "brown" and I spoke with a slight southern accent.
Also,as most of you who are familiar with me here on TBR know,I am not much given to posing as something I'm not,or to kissing someone's ass to try to get along with them. I do tend to be a "live and let live" guy as long as no one is getting up in my face and getting pushy,though,and I try to be helpful to anyone who asks for my help. It's just the neighborly thing to do,and how I was raised to act.
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All the Hispanics/Mexicans I know do not like abortion, transgender, homosexual normality, communist BLM, or any of all the perverted crap coming from the Democrats.
Sí se puede! Los venceremos! Vamos a salir victoriosos!!
@240B
Same here. As a group,probably the nicest people I have ever dealt with on a personal basis.
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Is it possible that 'America' will become a "Mexican Territory"?
Maybe? I don't know the future?"
But with the Fabian Communists 'in charge?'
I have not thought in Hell what is going to happen.
F-uck them!
Lassen Sie sie sich alle umbringen, wenn sie das wollen.
I do not care anymor
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@240B
Same here. As a group,probably the nicest people I have ever dealt with on a personal basis.
And there it is!! @sneakypete ...the exact same reason that I held such a soft spot for illegal Hispanics.
I found myself interacting with dozens of them at the turn of the century in my real estate career. Most were workers in the building trades or landscaping. Some were in the restaurant industry.
...watched their children grow up. One was my "Flyer Boy". Paid him $10 per hour to deliver listed/sold flyers...then I gave him a crisp one hundred dollar bill for each and every closing I had that originated by his delivered flyers.
One day, he was playing basketball with his friends in the neighborhood playground and I will never forget it. Drove up...called him over and peeled off 4 one hundred dollar bills. He instinctively hugged me, as he was only 14 or 15 years old. His friends all wanted to be involved.
He's a dentist today, with a wife and two children.
...of course, as I predicted back then, ENTIRE ZIP CODES in Montgomery County, Maryland have been gentrified by these "illegal aliens".
But the thing is...the welfare they receive is ONE generational. Not this 'Cradle to Grave' bullshit. Rather it was an investment.
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@Bigun
Isn't it possible that they are just like you and I...experiencing the effects of Ronald Reagan after Jimmy Carter while we were setting up our careers and chasing the American Dream?
That's what I attribute to this generation/wave of Hispanics in the U.S.A. who lean Republican.
Ronald Reagan certainly made me a Republican.
Perhaps so, most of the ones I know are just naturally conservative to begin with and the outreach the RPT has been doing certainly hasn't hurt.
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And there it is!! @sneakypete ...the exact same reason that I held such a soft spot for illegal Hispanics.
I found myself interacting with dozens of them at the turn of the century in my real estate career. Most were workers in the building trades or landscaping. Some were in the restaurant industry.
...watched their children grow up. One was my "Flyer Boy". Paid him $10 per hour to deliver listed/sold flyers...then I gave him a crisp one hundred dollar bill for each and every closing I had that originated by his delivered flyers.
One day, he was playing basketball with his friends in the neighborhood playground and I will never forget it. Drove up...called him over and peeled off 4 one hundred dollar bills. He instinctively hugged me, as he was only 14 or 15 years old. His friends all wanted to be involved.
He's a dentist today, with a wife and two children.
...of course, as I predicted back then, ENTIRE ZIP CODES in Montgomery County, Maryland have been gentrified by these "illegal aliens".
But the thing is...the welfare they receive is ONE generational. Not this 'Cradle to Grave' bullshit. Rather it was an investment.
Not true.
The spanish gangs in large urban areas are not just MS 13 illegals. A large number of the members are home grown Hispanics.
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MajorClay wrote:
"Believe it, its true."
No.
I don't believe it.
There is no "magic dust" that converts Hispanics from their general mindset when they cross the border and enter Texas.
I hope you realize that Hispanic voters in Texas and throughout the southwest whose families have been in the US for generations are generally opposed to illegal immigration. It's not border crossers we're talking about here, but first, second, ..., fifth generation Americans whose ancestors came from Latin America (or in some cases simply stayed in what had been provinces of Mexico before they became part of the United States).
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Part of the problem is a sizable number of Hispanics are Catholic and that church is off the wall liberal.
i believe only the current Pope is the liberal, not the bulk of the Catholic leaders or parishioners.
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@240B
Same here. As a group,probably the nicest people I have ever dealt with on a personal basis.
A lot of my early friends are of Mexican heritage as the high school was almost 50% Hispanic.
Large families, hard workers and good values, for the most part.
Unlike blacks, they do not sit on their ass collecting welfare checks.
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But the thing is...the welfare they receive is ONE generational. Not this 'Cradle to Grave' bullshit. Rather it was an investment.
@DCPatriot
That wasn't completely typical in the neighborhood I lived in in Denver. Old houses occupied by 2nd or 3rd generation owners,and lots of the teens and early 20's "kids" were glue heads or junkies. Their parents lived in houses that were paid for and they could afford to live off of welfare without working,so they did. Not all,or even most of them,mind you,but I am guessing this was true of the majority under 30.
And why wouldn't it be,since they grew up in houses where nobody worked and there were no fathers or even uncles present? Professional parasite was the only role models most had,so naturally that was the path most took.
I will say I never once felt any sort of "ugly gringo vibe" from any of them,though. It was mostly live and let live.
I don't remember EVER seeing a black in that neighborhood unless he or she was a cop or a paramedic,though. I have zero proof of this,but I am GUESSING they weren't too fond of blacks. Otherwise there would have been a bunch of them living there due to the low rent prices.
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Perhaps so, most of the ones I know are just naturally conservative to begin with and the outreach the RPT has been doing certainly hasn't hurt.
@Bigun
I believe that also,but I attribute it to their tradition of close families. When you grow up close to and have affection for most of the people around you,it is naturally easier for you to more accepting of others until they prove they can't be trusted.
It SEEMED like too many of the homes where I lived had single mothers and lots of young children,but that may be because those children were always out in the yards or in the streets socializing and playing with the other children without dads living at home.
I DID notice that the traditional "Mom,Pop,and Children" families tended to stay to themselves and I almost never saw their children out mixing with the "fatherless children". One big reason for this may have been the crack house on the corner I have written about before on TBR,where there would be pre-teen children out in the yard drinking beer when I passed that house going home from school at midnight. All the lights on,the doors open,and people of all ages partying down in the yard and in the house during warm weather,and in the house in the winter. Place seemed abandoned during the day time,but it really came to life after dark.
I'd have kept my kid in the house too,if I had a kid.
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Not true.
The spanish gangs in large urban areas are not just MS 13 illegals. A large number of the members are home grown Hispanics.
@bilo
I think this is true mostly of the current generation,and I attribute most of this to the fact most of them came here illegally and pretty much raised themselves in the streets. They have no loyalty to America,Mexico,or anywhere else. They are basically wild animals that grew up without direction.
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i believe only the current Pope is the liberal, not the bulk of the Catholic leaders or parishioners.
Just to be clear, I'm not looking at the theological reasons for it but if you look at States that are Rat majorities you will find one marker is they are heavily Catholic. If Catholics as a whole were mostly conservative you would not see so many Rat States where they are a sizable percentage of the religious community. If we enter into an amnesty for the 35 million illegals there is no reason to assume they will support conservatives.
I know this article is about Hispanic citizens, but it seems to be a trend that when amnesty is being promoted we begin to see articles about how they are becoming conservatives.
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A lot of my early friends are of Mexican heritage as the high school was almost 50% Hispanic.
Large families, hard workers and good values, for the most part.
Unlike blacks, they do not sit on their ass collecting welfare checks.
Not true. Black citizens have seen the destruction of the family structure with apprx., 75% of their children being born outside of marriage and raised in single parent homes. Hispanic citizens are not that far behind with apprx., 50% of their children born outside of marriage and White citizens are at apprx., 25%. The higher the % the greater the need for assistance.
I have had great experiences with Hispanic friends and neighbors as well as Black friends and neighbors. The reason we get along so well is we share the same core values. We've stayed married, been responsible for our children and tried to be good neighbors. If some of those values were missing I would not be associating with them. My point being it's not the immutable characteristics of the individual it's the value system they live by and as the % increases of Hispanic citizens that allow the family structure to decline a corresponding rise in dependency will grow.
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@bilo
I think this is true mostly of the current generation,and I attribute most of this to the fact most of them came here illegally and pretty much raised themselves in the streets. They have no loyalty to America,Mexico,or anywhere else. They are basically wild animals that grew up without direction.
I think you are right. The drug trade contributed to this, decline of a family structure, school systems that no longer teach American Exceptionalism or push assimilation. IOW, it's not going to be easy to fix this.
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All the Hispanics/Mexicans I know do not like abortion, transgender, homosexual normality, communist BLM, or any of all the perverted crap coming from the Democrats.
Sí se puede! Los venceremos! Vamos a salir victoriosos!!
@240B @Fishrrman
240B,I suspect you are confusing the new immmigrants who came here for all the "free stuff" with 2nd and 3rd generation His and Her Panics. They just ain't the same people.
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This shift was started back when GWB was running for Governor.
They figured out the the Hispanic/Latino community were big on hard work, faith and family, not having the government in their faces, and actively courted them.
A large percentage (in Texas, anyway) are also veterans.
The thought was if you could start to peel off a few percentage points here and there, away from the left, it may create a groundswell.
Heck, any vote taken away from the left is welcome news.
Having Ninfa Laurenzo's endorsement didn't hurt.
It is paying off, in spite of what number being roughly 40%.
Go back past 20-30 years ago and beyond and you'll see that the numbers were lower than that.
I dunno, maybe just me.
Heck, the whole country (and later, state) was started by people from Mexico, Tennessee, Germany, and Czechoslovakia, with a few miscreants thrown in.
Just all part on what makes Texas.....Texas.
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MajorClay wrote:
"Believe it, its true."
No.
I don't believe it.
There is no "magic dust" that converts Hispanics from their general mindset when they cross the border and enter Texas.
I did some quick searching on the 2020 election and found these results:
https://www.washingtonpost.com/elections/interactive/2020/exit-polls/texas-exit-polls/
Scrolling down, it looks like biden beat Mr. Trump with the Hispanic vote to the tune of 58-41%.
That means that for every two Hispanic voters for the Republicans, there are THREE Hispanics who are voting for the democrat-communists in Texas.
Those are NOT numbers you embrace if you want to win.
And I contend that with the current flood of illegals into TX, which the communists will shower with "free stuff", will increasingly lean to the left, carrying over after they're eventually amnesty'ed into voters.
And look at the demographics -- the number of Euro-white babies being born in Texas, vis-a-vis the number of babies being born to Hispanics, both legal and illegal.
These numbers don't portend well for the future.
I wish things were different, that Texas would remain a bulwark against the creeping but constant shift to the left, but I don't see that happening.
It's happened in Georgia already.
I believe that Mississippi looks to be getting dicey (the white proportion of the population vis-a-vis the black cohort has dropped significantly).
And Texas is in their sights, too.
Zapata County