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Title: Argentina's Sergio Massa concedes presidential election to Javier Milei
Post by: mountaineer on November 19, 2023, 11:26:36 pm
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Argentina's Sergio Massa concedes presidential election to Javier Milei
Reuters via MSN (https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/argentinas-sergio-massa-concedes-presidential-election-to-javier-milei/ar-AA1kcfk5)
Nov. 19, 2023

BUENOS AIRES (Reuters) - Argentina presidential candidate and economy minister Sergio Massa conceded defeat to far-right libertarian Javier Milei in the country's presidential runoff on Sunday.

"I have called Javier Milei to congratulate him," Massa said from his campaign headquarters in Buenos Aires.
GeroDoc
@doc_gero
Libertarian firebrand 𝐉𝐚𝐯𝐢𝐞𝐫 𝐌𝐢𝐥𝐞𝐢 has just won the Argentine presidency. I feel like the “Blob,” e.g. the US State Dept. & the CIA must be too distracted at home w/ their domestic destabilization efforts, otherwise they would have prevented this
6:16 PM · Nov 19, 2023
Title: Re: Argentina's Sergio Massa concedes presidential election to Javier Milei
Post by: mountaineer on November 19, 2023, 11:29:17 pm
I don't know anything about him, but he clearly makes the "establishment" (especially the media) quake.
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The disquieting shadow of Javier Milei looms over Argentine democracy
Matías Bianchi
Sat, November 18, 2023 at 5:14 AM EST
Euro News via Yahoo (https://news.yahoo.com/disquieting-shadow-javier-milei-looms-101438891.html)

As Argentina marks 40 years of continued democracy — the longest stretch in its history — a disquieting shadow looms over its political landscape.

The emergence of Javier Milei, a libertarian economist-turned-presidential candidate with a rhetoric steeped in authoritarianism, presents a stark challenge to the nation's democratic fabric.

Milei's ambivalence towards democratic norms is evident. In a television interview, he questioned the efficacy of democracy, citing Arrow's theorem to argue against democratic decision-making. ...

As the second round of the presidential elections approaches on Sunday, the prospect of Milei's presidency raises each and every red flag, posing a grave threat to Argentina's democratic institutions.

Even if he is not elected, his authoritarian ideas and style, like rallying while brandishing a chainsaw, may linger in the country's political discourse, challenging democratic forces to forge a renewed social contract that fosters and expands democracy. ...
Title: Re: Argentina's Sergio Massa concedes presidential election to Javier Milei
Post by: mountaineer on November 19, 2023, 11:30:43 pm
End Wokeness
@EndWokeness
Holy sh*t. Argentina just elected Javier Milei as their next president.
History has been made today.
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/F_VSpw-XgAAOXBQ?format=jpg&name=small)
6:08 PM · Nov 19, 2023

Elon Musk
@elonmusk
Prosperity is ahead for Argentina
6:10 PM · Nov 19, 2023
Title: Re: Argentina's Sergio Massa concedes presidential election to Javier Milei
Post by: catfish1957 on November 19, 2023, 11:34:23 pm
End Wokeness
@EndWokeness
Holy sh*t. Argentina just elected Javier Milei as their next president.
History has been made today.
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/F_VSpw-XgAAOXBQ?format=jpg&name=small)
6:08 PM · Nov 19, 2023

Elon Musk
@elonmusk
Prosperity is ahead for Argentina
6:10 PM · Nov 19, 2023

Do we get copyright fees for him using our Gadsen Flag?   :seeya:
Title: Re: Argentina's Sergio Massa concedes presidential election to Javier Milei
Post by: libertybele on November 20, 2023, 01:50:15 am
A Libertarian -- perhaps the pendulum will start swinging in a more positive direction around the globe. Now ... if the United States could just seat a conservative.  :patriot:

‘Shock therapy’ libertarian candidate Javier Milei, who ran as outsider, wins Argentine presidential election

https://www.foxnews.com/world/shock-therapy-libertarian-candidate-javier-milei-who-ran-as-outsider-wins-argentine-presidential-election
Title: Re: Argentina's Sergio Massa concedes presidential election to Javier Milei
Post by: catfish1957 on November 20, 2023, 01:54:54 am
A Libertarian -- perhaps the pendulum will start swinging in a more positive direction around the globe. Now ... if the United States could just seat a conservative.  :patriot:

‘Shock therapy’ libertarian candidate Javier Milei, who ran as outsider, wins Argentine presidential election

https://www.foxnews.com/world/shock-therapy-libertarian-candidate-javier-milei-who-ran-as-outsider-wins-argentine-presidential-election

Reading the MSM accounts of this guy, you'd think he was the reincarnation of Adolph Hitler.
Title: Re: Argentina's Sergio Massa concedes presidential election to Javier Milei
Post by: libertybele on November 20, 2023, 02:02:51 am
Reading the MSM accounts of this guy, you'd think he was the reincarnation of Adolph Hitler.

We'll find out soon enough if his election is a good thing.
Title: Re: Argentina's Sergio Massa concedes presidential election to Javier Milei
Post by: DB on November 20, 2023, 02:59:06 am
An authoritarian libertarian is an oxymoron.
Title: Re: Argentina's Sergio Massa concedes presidential election to Javier Milei
Post by: mountaineer on November 20, 2023, 03:04:11 am
The nooze media generally refer to him as a hard-right uber-nationalist libertarian.
 rrthree
Title: Re: Argentina's Sergio Massa concedes presidential election to Javier Milei
Post by: Smokin Joe on November 20, 2023, 08:10:59 am
The nooze media generally refer to him as a hard-right uber-nationalist libertarian.
 rrthree
Well, if the MSM types refer to him that way, I have to wonder.  :shrug:

That stuff is generally reserved for anyone to the right of Karl Marx.
Title: Re: Argentina's Sergio Massa concedes presidential election to Javier Milei
Post by: Gefn on November 20, 2023, 12:51:41 pm
 :bkmk:
Title: Re: Argentina's Sergio Massa concedes presidential election to Javier Milei
Post by: sneakypete on November 20, 2023, 01:24:07 pm
Reading the MSM accounts of this guy, you'd think he was the reincarnation of Adolph Hitler.

@catfish1957

If the mainstream media is THAT afraid of him,chances are he is what Argentina needs.

The  hatred and fear of him by the media kinda reminds me of an American Presidential candidate,and his name does NOT start with the letters "De".

Know anybody like that?
Title: Re: Argentina's Sergio Massa concedes presidential election to Javier Milei
Post by: sneakypete on November 20, 2023, 01:25:43 pm
We'll find out soon enough if his election is a good thing.

@libertybele

We will find out what direction he wants to take,but he can't do it by himself. He is going to need support.
Title: Re: Argentina's Sergio Massa concedes presidential election to Javier Milei
Post by: the OlLine Rebel on November 20, 2023, 01:29:47 pm
I don't know anything about him, but he clearly makes the "establishment" (especially the media) quake.

What a prejudiced piece.

Not knowing anything about Milei, but note again the contrast between “democracy” and “authoritarianism”.  First note democracy does not mean everything is peachy, and just because a guy doesn’t pitch the communist line, doesn’t make him authoritarian (again as if that’s all bad, and the irony of communists).
Title: Re: Argentina's Sergio Massa concedes presidential election to Javier Milei
Post by: catfish1957 on November 20, 2023, 02:02:10 pm
What a prejudiced piece.

Not knowing anything about Milei, but note again the contrast between “democracy” and “authoritarianism”.  First note democracy does not mean everything is peachy, and just because a guy doesn’t pitch the communist line, doesn’t make him authoritarian (again as if that’s all bad, and the irony of communists).

Absolutely nothing, I mean nothing can be believed from the MSM nowadays.

My method?   Consider everything the MSM reports is a lie, and then work back from there.
Title: Re: Argentina's Sergio Massa concedes presidential election to Javier Milei
Post by: Weird Tolkienish Figure on November 20, 2023, 02:24:59 pm
They're acting like Hitler was just elected. I hate these people.
Title: Re: Argentina's Sergio Massa concedes presidential election to Javier Milei
Post by: mountaineer on November 20, 2023, 02:25:52 pm
Harmeet K. Dhillon
@pnjaban
Argentina, a large and urban-population focused country of over 45 million, had national election results within an hour of the polls closing.
8:21 PM · Nov 19, 2023
Title: Re: Argentina's Sergio Massa concedes presidential election to Javier Milei
Post by: catfish1957 on November 20, 2023, 02:26:55 pm
Harmeet K. Dhillon
@pnjaban
Argentina, a large and urban-population focused country of over 45 million, had national election results within an hour of the polls closing.
8:21 PM · Nov 19, 2023

We know which is the real banana republic, and it is right under our noses.
Title: Re: Argentina's Sergio Massa concedes presidential election to Javier Milei
Post by: Weird Tolkienish Figure on November 20, 2023, 02:30:18 pm
Harmeet K. Dhillon
@pnjaban
Argentina, a large and urban-population focused country of over 45 million, had national election results within an hour of the polls closing.
8:21 PM · Nov 19, 2023

Clearly our system, which takes weeks to count, is better. /s
Title: Re: Argentina's Sergio Massa concedes presidential election to Javier Milei
Post by: Bigun on November 20, 2023, 02:31:26 pm
@catfish1957

If the mainstream media is THAT afraid of him, chances are he is what Argentina needs.

 :yowsa:  888high58888
Title: Re: Argentina's Sergio Massa concedes presidential election to Javier Milei
Post by: Bigun on November 20, 2023, 02:33:52 pm
Clearly our system, which takes weeks to count, is better. /s

Because it takes time to manufacture the correct number of ballots to ensure the right people win!.
Title: Re: Argentina's Sergio Massa concedes presidential election to Javier Milei
Post by: mountaineer on November 20, 2023, 02:34:06 pm
Media response:  :silly:
https://twitter.com/amuse/status/1726600314349093196
Title: Re: Argentina's Sergio Massa concedes presidential election to Javier Milei
Post by: Bigun on November 20, 2023, 02:35:16 pm
Media response:  :silly:
https://twitter.com/amuse/status/1726600314349093196

Where is the USA version of this guy?
Title: Re: Argentina's Sergio Massa concedes presidential election to Javier Milei
Post by: catfish1957 on November 20, 2023, 02:38:14 pm
Where is the USA version of this guy?

Sure not Trump.  The Fed Deficit ballooned under his watch, and now he is promising Freedom Cites, Baby Bonuses, and Flying Cars to boot.

Short answer....   That animal does not exist (yet) in this country
Title: Re: Argentina's Sergio Massa concedes presidential election to Javier Milei
Post by: mountaineer on November 20, 2023, 02:42:38 pm
Congratulations to the new Vice President of Argentina 🇦🇷 Vicky Villarruel: Catholic woman, patriot, pro-life, pro-family, anti Agenda 2030, with good values ​​and very clear ideas.
https://twitter.com/CforCatholics/status/1726437433703813271
Title: Re: Argentina's Sergio Massa concedes presidential election to Javier Milei
Post by: Weird Tolkienish Figure on November 20, 2023, 02:42:58 pm
Sure not Trump.  The Fed Deficit ballooned under his watch, and now he is promising Freedom Cites, Baby Bonuses, and Flying Cars to boot.

Short answer....   That animal does not exist (yet) in this country

Welp, hopefully the people he hires are like that.
Title: Re: Argentina's Sergio Massa concedes presidential election to Javier Milei
Post by: Bigun on November 20, 2023, 02:46:17 pm
Short answer....   That animal does not exist (yet) in this country

Oh! He or she exists for sure but there are too many boots on necks to allow their rise. Also too many on the dole as well.
Title: Re: Argentina's Sergio Massa concedes presidential election to Javier Milei
Post by: Bigun on November 20, 2023, 02:58:31 pm
Congratulations to the new Vice President of Argentina 🇦🇷 Vicky Villarruel: Catholic woman, patriot, pro-life, pro-family, anti Agenda 2030, with good values ​​and very clear ideas.
https://twitter.com/CforCatholics/status/1726437433703813271

I never thought I would see the day that I would look at Argentina with envy but here I am doing exactly that!
Title: Re: Argentina's Sergio Massa concedes presidential election to Javier Milei
Post by: catfish1957 on November 20, 2023, 03:00:27 pm
I never thought I would see the day that I would look at Argentina with envy but here I am doing exactly that!

She sure beats the shoez lady doesn't she?  Kinda cute I'd say.
Title: Re: Argentina's Sergio Massa concedes presidential election to Javier Milei
Post by: Weird Tolkienish Figure on November 20, 2023, 03:01:36 pm
I never thought I would see the day that I would look at Argentina with envy but here I am doing exactly that!

Well... they're in a lot deeper trouble than we are too. 133% inflation doesn't sound fun.
Title: Re: Argentina's Sergio Massa concedes presidential election to Javier Milei
Post by: bigheadfred on November 20, 2023, 03:08:44 pm
A quick little blurb from a search for "Milei policies".

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Milei has pledged to “blow up” the political status quo, shutter the central bank, dollarise the economy and massively shrink the state – ideas that have resonated with many voters, especially young voters, after years of economic decline. A former small-time rock musician and athlete, Milei opposes abortion and supports gun rights.
Title: Re: Argentina's Sergio Massa concedes presidential election to Javier Milei
Post by: Bigun on November 20, 2023, 03:09:13 pm
Well... they're in a lot deeper trouble than we are too. 133% inflation doesn't sound fun.

It won't be long! There are a few of us around who can see the handwriting on the wall.
Title: Re: Argentina's Sergio Massa concedes presidential election to Javier Milei
Post by: Bigun on November 20, 2023, 03:11:01 pm
A quick little blurb from a search for "Milei policies".
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Milei has pledged to “blow up” the political status quo, shutter the central bank, dollarise the economy and massively shrink the state – ideas that have resonated with many voters, especially young voters, after years of economic decline. A former small-time rock musician and athlete, Milei opposes abortion and supports gun rights.

 :yowsa: Ain't that wonderful!
Title: Re: Argentina's Sergio Massa concedes presidential election to Javier Milei
Post by: cato potatoe on November 20, 2023, 04:03:57 pm
The Perons took a sledgehammer to Argentina, and it's unclear what Milei can actually do without congressional support for systemic changes.  After the depression the country was taken by, if you please, "the siren song of populism."  Two shysters who promised the sun, the moon, and the stars with no means of delivering.  Eva mercifully succumbed to cancer (given to her by a philandering caudillo-husband) and Juan was deposed before he could turn the place into a total garbage heap.
Title: Re: Argentina's Sergio Massa concedes presidential election to Javier Milei
Post by: Weird Tolkienish Figure on November 20, 2023, 04:23:23 pm
The Perons took a sledgehammer to Argentina, and it's unclear what Milei can actually do without congressional support for systemic changes.  After the depression the country was taken by, if you please, "the siren song of populism."  Two shysters who promised the sun, the moon, and the stars with no means of delivering.  Eva mercifully succumbed to cancer (given to her by a philandering caudillo-husband) and Juan was deposed before he could turn the place into a total garbage heap.

Peron is called a populist but looking at his policies it's easy to see he was a garden variety leftard.
Title: Re: Argentina's Sergio Massa concedes presidential election to Javier Milei
Post by: mountaineer on November 20, 2023, 04:30:32 pm
Senator Ted Cruz
@SenTedCruz
Congratulations to @JMilei on his becoming Argentina's next president.

This election was a decisive defeat for anti-American forces in the Western Hemisphere and beyond, and an enormous victory for the U.S.-Argentina relationship and for American interests.

I look forward to working with him on deepening the U.S.-Argentina relationship.
11:29 AM · Nov 20, 2023
Title: Re: Argentina's Sergio Massa concedes presidential election to Javier Milei
Post by: mountaineer on November 20, 2023, 05:13:37 pm
Meet Argentina’s new President Javier Milei. First thing you need to know: He absolutely can’t stand leftists.
Hair stylists, either.  :pondering:
https://twitter.com/robbystarbuck/status/1726383046742376755
Title: Re: Argentina's Sergio Massa concedes presidential election to Javier Milei
Post by: catfish1957 on November 20, 2023, 05:15:24 pm
"You can't give shit leftards an inch"

I am shamelessly stealing that one!!!! :cool:
Title: Re: Argentina's Sergio Massa concedes presidential election to Javier Milei
Post by: jafo2010 on November 20, 2023, 05:29:48 pm
Milei is a very interesting man.  Tucker Carlson on Twitter did an excellent interview of Melei.  Well worth listening to.

After you listen to him, one wonders why we do not have a single politician in America that remotely sounds like him.  He is brilliant, as he proves with his many references as he speaks, something no American would do.

One of my neighbors spends most of his time living in Argentina, and he waved his hand about having 130% inflation, like it was nothing.  He indicated most of Argentina is on the big government teat.  Few work, and everyone is paid by the government.  That is the same thing that brought down the USSR.  I tell you, that socialist nonsense is nothing more than shared poverty and pure self destruction.

In listening to Milei, the whole time, you sit there saying to bad he can't run here, for he makes perfect sense with everything he says. 
Title: Re: Argentina's Sergio Massa concedes presidential election to Javier Milei
Post by: catfish1957 on November 20, 2023, 05:34:19 pm
Milei is a very interesting man.  Tucker Carlson on Twitter did an excellent interview of Melei.  Well worth listening to.

After you listen to him, one wonders why we do not have a single politician in America that remotely sounds like him.  He is brilliant, as he proves with his many references as he speaks, something no American would do.

One of my neighbors spends most of his time living in Argentina, and he waved his hand about having 130% inflation, like it was nothing.  He indicated most of Argentina is on the big government teat.  Few work, and everyone is paid by the government.  That is the same thing that brought down the USSR.  I tell you, that socialist nonsense is nothing more than shared poverty and pure self destruction.

In listening to Milei, the whole time, you sit there saying to bad he can't run here, for he makes perfect sense with everything he says.

Thanks, but have kind of sworn off Carlson after he boarded the Tump Train.  I did remember his interview with Poland's president.  The press had demonized the guy so badly, I expected some kind of Right Wing gooosestepping zealot.  But no he was even keeled and sounded very reasonbable.

Which leads us to the root cause.  The world wide MSM has gone into collusion mode and purposely is trying to destroy any world leader right of center.
Title: Re: Argentina's Sergio Massa concedes presidential election to Javier Milei
Post by: sneakypete on November 20, 2023, 09:11:19 pm
Clearly our system, which takes weeks to count, is better. /s

@Weird Tolkienish Figure

Well,the poll-watchers in OUR system CAN'T finish counting until they know how  many more votes they are going to need to insure a Dim victory.
Title: Re: Argentina's Sergio Massa concedes presidential election to Javier Milei
Post by: mountaineer on November 20, 2023, 09:55:24 pm
More fun with the media responses to Milei's victory:
https://twitter.com/Ground_app/status/1726672589269963180
Title: Re: Argentina's Sergio Massa concedes presidential election to Javier Milei
Post by: LMAO on November 21, 2023, 12:31:35 am
Sure not Trump.  The Fed Deficit ballooned under his watch, and now he is promising Freedom Cites, Baby Bonuses, and Flying Cars to boot.

Short answer....   That animal does not exist (yet) in this country

Yep

This guy is promising to slash budgets and government agencies

Trump is promising more spending and growing the government

He also subscribes to the Austrian school of economics. Trump’s philosophy is Keynesian, similar to Obama’s

I’ve seen the media refer to him as the Argentina Donald Trump….no
Title: Re: Argentina's Sergio Massa concedes presidential election to Javier Milei
Post by: Bigun on November 21, 2023, 01:39:23 am
https://twitter.com/RealSpikeCohen/status/1726386703441522908
Title: Re: Argentina's Sergio Massa concedes presidential election to Javier Milei
Post by: Right_in_Virginia on November 21, 2023, 03:19:50 am
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Donald J. Trump
@TrumpDailyPosts

Congratulations to Javier Milei on a great race for President of Argentina. The whole world was watching! I am very proud of you. You will turn your Country around and truly Make Argentina Great Again!


Donald Trump Truth Social
07:27 PM EST 11/19/23


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Title: Re: Argentina's Sergio Massa concedes presidential election to Javier Milei
Post by: Right_in_Virginia on November 21, 2023, 03:21:01 am
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/F_Txz87WcAA12bv?format=jpg&name=small)
Title: Re: Argentina's Sergio Massa concedes presidential election to Javier Milei
Post by: Right_in_Virginia on November 21, 2023, 03:25:12 am
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/F_Vo5POXIAA-0yw?format=jpg&name=small)
7:32 PM · Nov 19, 2023




Title: Re: Argentina's Sergio Massa concedes presidential election to Javier Milei
Post by: LMAO on November 21, 2023, 03:51:40 am
https://twitter.com/RealSpikeCohen/status/1726386703441522908

To have that here

I can dream, can I?
Title: Re: Argentina's Sergio Massa concedes presidential election to Javier Milei
Post by: LMAO on November 21, 2023, 04:15:00 am
He wants to replace the peso with the US dollar. How wise is that considering that we’re also printing and devaluing our own currency?
Title: Re: Argentina's Sergio Massa concedes presidential election to Javier Milei
Post by: sneakypete on November 21, 2023, 11:09:59 am
He wants to replace the peso with the US dollar. How wise is that considering that we’re also printing and devaluing our own currency?

@LMAO

Well,he has to do something because the "national dollar" there is mostly useful as toilet paper.

NOT saying he WILL turn to the US dollar because I don't even know how such a thing would be possible,but "Item Number One" SHOULD be replacing his useless currency with  a currency that doesn't require  a wheelbarrow of it  to  buy a loaf of bread.

What we ALL know is that this won't happen  overnight,and it IS going to require the help of other free nations to  get them back on their feet. MOST of that help should be in the form of rebuilding their manufacturing so that people have jobs that pay,and that the state has outside money  flowing in from sales to other nations.

This begins with  people coming to  understand that this IS happening,even if it doesn't happen as quickly  as they  would like. It took generations to  put them in the economic position they are in now,and this isn't going to completely disappear  overnight. Or at all,if the other western nations don't all pitch in and give them a hand.

Which in the long run will help the western nations,too. After all,they can't sell THEIR goods to a nation that has no money to buy  them.
Title: Re: Argentina's Sergio Massa concedes presidential election to Javier Milei
Post by: LMAO on November 21, 2023, 11:52:35 am
Argentina’s  inflation was caused by printing their currency to cover deficit spending

Sound familiar? That’s what brought on the Trump/Biden inflation we are now joyfully experiencing

How is he going to replace the peso with the dollar when we’re doing the same thing?

He is not Argentina’s Donald Trump. He’s a more charismatic and radical version of Ron Paul. The media labeled him as a Donald Trump because Trump is their Hitler and everyone they don’t like is Trump
Title: Re: Argentina's Sergio Massa concedes presidential election to Javier Milei
Post by: Bigun on November 21, 2023, 02:11:14 pm
He wants to replace the peso with the US dollar. How wise is that considering that we’re also printing and devaluing our own currency?

It's all just monopoly money until it's backed by something real. That includes U.S. Dollars.
Title: Re: Argentina's Sergio Massa concedes presidential election to Javier Milei
Post by: Weird Tolkienish Figure on November 21, 2023, 02:40:48 pm
He wants to replace the peso with the US dollar. How wise is that considering that we’re also printing and devaluing our own currency?

All about relativity really. Doing so will probably greatly benefit the average citizen. I'd be happy if we went back to gold backed currency. Ever bitcoin would possibly be better.
Title: Re: Argentina's Sergio Massa concedes presidential election to Javier Milei
Post by: LMAO on November 21, 2023, 02:53:24 pm
As far as reducing government and reining in  spending, I wish him luck

He’s gonna find, like this country, every government program has a constituency

We even see that here on this conservative site.

But it’s either cut spending or continue with their inflationary economy
Title: Re: Argentina's Sergio Massa concedes presidential election to Javier Milei
Post by: catfish1957 on November 21, 2023, 02:56:46 pm
Actually if he was able to effectively pulloff completely converting his peso to the $USD, it would strengthen our soverign debt, but the most noticable effects of foreign goods would be cheaper by the sheer fact suppy/demand curves.  From a fiscal perspective it would be like adding 46M Americans.  Plus you'd see an upshoot of the currency price, if flips the switch quickly and there is a shortage (perceptive or real) of $USD.

OTOH, converting to dollars is pretty much a fungible way of them investing into our treasuries (debt0.  And at a time when then nation in question has a 140+% Debt to GDP ratio and $32T of these dollar in real debt.  They also will have turned over their fiscal policy to 1 POTUS, 535 elected officals, and about a 1000 Treasury swamp creatures. All iditots   Bad move for them from my POV.

Perso
Title: Re: Argentina's Sergio Massa concedes presidential election to Javier Milei
Post by: GtHawk on November 21, 2023, 03:39:19 pm
It's all just monopoly money until it's backed by something real. That includes U.S. Dollars.
Pretty soon we will have to back the money with something tangible.
(https://i.imgur.com/PgepYrr.jpg)
Title: Re: Argentina's Sergio Massa concedes presidential election to Javier Milei
Post by: mountaineer on November 21, 2023, 07:58:10 pm
Biden has yet to congratulate libertarian President-elect Milei of Argentina on his election victory
Washington Times (https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2023/nov/21/joe-biden-yet-to-congratulate-argentinas-libertari/)
 By Kerry Picket - The Washington Times - Tuesday, November 21, 2023

President Biden has yet to personally congratulate President-elect Javier Milei of Argentina following his enormous electoral victory.

According to Argentina‘s electoral authority, Mr. Milei, a firebrand libertarian-conservative, scored a decisive victory Sunday over an establishment candidate in Argentina‘s presidential runoff with 55.7% of the 99.7% votes cast to Economic Minister Sergio Massa’s 44.3%.

It is the widest margin of victory in a presidential race since the country returned to democracy in 1983.

Despite the decisive victory achieved by Mr. Milei, Mr. Biden has yet to issue a personal congratulatory statement to the incoming Argentinian president, such as he did for Liberia’s president-elect Joseph Boakai on Monday. Mr. Boakai won his tight race with 51% of the vote against the country’s incumbent president, George Weah, who garnered 49%. ...
 *****rollingeyes*****
Title: Re: Argentina's Sergio Massa concedes presidential election to Javier Milei
Post by: corbe on November 21, 2023, 08:12:28 pm
   In other news Trump hasn't taken credit for his election yet, either. 
Title: Re: Argentina's Sergio Massa concedes presidential election to Javier Milei
Post by: LMAO on November 22, 2023, 12:17:40 pm
   In other news Trump hasn't taken credit for his election yet, either.

Argentina’s economy suffered from unsustainable deficit spending that required currency devaluation to cover and high tariffs

We have a GOP candidate running on doing just that to our economy so if anything, Trump can take credit for the economic model that Argentina followed
Title: Re: Argentina's Sergio Massa concedes presidential election to Javier Milei
Post by: mountaineer on November 22, 2023, 02:00:53 pm
Yes, it's probably not fair to call him Trump-like, for the reasons cited above, but anyway:

Leading Report
@LeadingReport
BREAKING: Argentina’s new ‘Trump-like’ President Javier Milei keeps his promise and has announced that the Argentinian Ministry of Women, Gender, and Equality will close in 21 days.
10:29 PM · Nov 20, 2023

This is how you start to drain the swamp. Get rid of unnecessary departments and employees.
Title: Re: Argentina's Sergio Massa concedes presidential election to Javier Milei
Post by: catfish1957 on November 22, 2023, 02:03:40 pm
Yes, it's probably not fair to call him Trump-like, for the reasons cited above, but anyway:

Leading Report
@LeadingReport
BREAKING: Argentina’s new ‘Trump-like’ President Javier Milei keeps his promise and has announced that the Argentinian Ministry of Women, Gender, and Equality will close in 21 days.
10:29 PM · Nov 20, 2023

This is how you start to drain the swamp. Get rid of unnecessary departments and employees.

Especially the ultra woke ones first.   :beer:
Title: Re: Argentina's Sergio Massa concedes presidential election to Javier Milei
Post by: corbe on November 22, 2023, 02:18:04 pm
    Has Trump ever met a Department he cut their budget or eliminated?  Asking for a Friend.
Title: Re: Argentina's Sergio Massa concedes presidential election to Javier Milei
Post by: catfish1957 on November 22, 2023, 02:26:34 pm
    Has Trump ever met a Department he cut their budget or eliminated?  Asking for a Friend.

Source: https://www.federalpay.org/employees (https://www.federalpay.org/employees)

Federal Employees by year:

2022- 1,402,029
2021- 1,408,090
2020- 1,403,563
2019- 1,374,913
2018- 1,478,391
2017- 1,339,645

My trusty calculator states that Fedzilla grew 5.2% under the Orange Menace
Title: Re: Argentina's Sergio Massa concedes presidential election to Javier Milei
Post by: LMAO on November 22, 2023, 03:35:54 pm
Yes, it's probably not fair to call him Trump-like, for the reasons cited above, but anyway:

Leading Report
@LeadingReport
BREAKING: Argentina’s new ‘Trump-like’ President Javier Milei keeps his promise and has announced that the Argentinian Ministry of Women, Gender, and Equality will close in 21 days.
10:29 PM · Nov 20, 2023

This is how you start to drain the swamp. Get rid of unnecessary departments and employees.

Lol

What does a Ministry of Women, Gender, and Equality do?
Title: Re: Argentina's Sergio Massa concedes presidential election to Javier Milei
Post by: corbe on November 22, 2023, 03:41:37 pm
Lol

What does a Ministry of Women, Gender, and Equality do?

   Change the Labels on $hit.

(https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEheOvB0xuvmUjPMqXEiVYal0IvEXROkSEbFwdbJlIXbPzFvQuZW8BUIu9F4N0zC54fB98KA5eKWa6RPLTli9Q7CawneQiUHyF9e7dHUHtObPLulqmRzsxGiANlJq4qBqjtiiZbX7edUd6HWt9gjy6Nv2fr24VKUZofNPF24SAHgV5_mjoqxbsfYG_9a8Kw/w640-h596/1%20dfsadfsdfsfd.jpg)
Title: Re: Argentina's Sergio Massa concedes presidential election to Javier Milei
Post by: mystery-ak on November 22, 2023, 03:46:35 pm
November 22, 2023
Biden fails to congratulate Argentina's new president, libertarian Javier Milei
By Monica Showalter

Joe Biden has always been Johnny-on-the-spot whenever a radical leftist has gotten elected in Latin America.

But for Argentina's new president, elected by a ten-point-plus margin?

Crickets.

He's said nothing at all to Javier Milei, Argentina's first libertarian president, on his quite truly historic victory in an undoubtedly free and fair election, with 30 million hand-counted ballots, their validity approved by both parties and delivered on election night, that made Milei president. He could have congratuated just the election if he couldn't stand Milei, which we know he can't as a fair-minded formality, but of course, he didn't. The White House web site is bereft of any pretense of congratulations from hoary old Joe.

That stands in striking contrast to his swift congratulatory message to other countries that have elected radical leftist leaders.

more
https://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2023/11/biden_fails_to_congratulate_argentinas_new_president_libertarian_javier_milei.html
Title: Re: Argentina's Sergio Massa concedes presidential election to Javier Milei
Post by: Weird Tolkienish Figure on November 22, 2023, 03:58:07 pm

Crickets.


That's all that's left in his brain at this point.
Title: Re: Argentina's Sergio Massa concedes presidential election to Javier Milei
Post by: LMAO on November 22, 2023, 05:28:58 pm
That's all that's left in his brain at this point.

I wouldn’t even say crickets

At least  crickets are lively and active
Title: Re: Argentina's Sergio Massa concedes presidential election to Javier Milei
Post by: mountaineer on November 22, 2023, 06:14:25 pm
OK. Dead crickets. Stink bugs, too.
Title: Re: Argentina's Sergio Massa concedes presidential election to Javier Milei
Post by: Fishrrman on November 22, 2023, 10:09:15 pm
LMAO asks:
"What does a Ministry of Women, Gender, and Equality do?"

Issue regulations
Produce reports
Grow in size
Increase its power
Issue more regulations
Title: Re: Argentina's Sergio Massa concedes presidential election to Javier Milei
Post by: Bigun on November 22, 2023, 10:18:54 pm
Lol

What does a Ministry of Women, Gender, and Equality do?

I don't know but it's very likely that WE have four or five of them!
Title: Re: Argentina's Sergio Massa concedes presidential election to Javier Milei
Post by: mountaineer on November 22, 2023, 11:23:26 pm
Brutal week for the far-left

PeterSweden
@PeterSweden7
What just happened in the Netherlands is massive.
This is a political earthquake.
Right-wing Geert Wilders is set to win the election.
And a massive win for the Dutch farmers.
🚜🇳🇱🚜🇳🇱🚜🇳🇱
5:04 PM · Nov 22, 2023

https://twitter.com/EndWokeness/status/1727446120622653673
Title: Re: Argentina's Sergio Massa concedes presidential election to Javier Milei
Post by: LMAO on November 23, 2023, 12:32:28 am
Brutal week for the far-left

PeterSweden
@PeterSweden7
What just happened in the Netherlands is massive.
This is a political earthquake.
Right-wing Geert Wilders is set to win the election.
And a massive win for the Dutch farmers.
🚜🇳🇱🚜🇳🇱🚜🇳🇱
5:04 PM · Nov 22, 2023

https://twitter.com/EndWokeness/status/1727446120622653673


 :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Argentina's Sergio Massa concedes presidential election to Javier Milei
Post by: sneakypete on November 23, 2023, 02:30:13 am

 :thumbsup:

@LMAO

I honestly never thought that would happen.

The Swedes are SOOOO in love with  their socialism.

Looks like just MAYBE the influx of all those 3rd world parasites turned out to be a good thing.
Title: Re: Argentina's Sergio Massa concedes presidential election to Javier Milei
Post by: LMAO on November 23, 2023, 11:38:19 am
@LMAO

I honestly never thought that would happen.

The Swedes are SOOOO in love with  their socialism.

Looks like just MAYBE the influx of all those 3rd world parasites turned out to be a good thing.

Sweden  gave up socialism sometime I think either in the 90s or early 2000

And this wasn’t a Swedish election. It was in the Netherlands

The driving  issue was the Islamification of the Netherlands

BTW, have folks noticed that if the media doesn’t like a certain politician they label them “far right” or “Donald Trump?”
Title: Re: Argentina's Sergio Massa concedes presidential election to Javier Milei
Post by: sneakypete on November 23, 2023, 06:22:28 pm
Sweden  gave up socialism sometime I think either in the 90s or early 2000

And this wasn’t a Swedish election. It was in the Netherlands

@LMAO

I stand corrected.

Thank you.

 
Title: Re: Argentina's Sergio Massa concedes presidential election to Javier Milei
Post by: LMAO on November 23, 2023, 06:55:13 pm


 :beer:

Title: Re: Argentina's Sergio Massa concedes presidential election to Javier Milei
Post by: mountaineer on November 24, 2023, 05:11:44 pm
“It is madness, it is delusional, to think that a representative of the people is above the people themselves.” — Javier Milei
https://twitter.com/stillgray/status/1728089969388851680
Title: Re: Argentina's Sergio Massa concedes presidential election to Javier Milei
Post by: mountaineer on December 01, 2023, 02:43:54 pm
Micah Meadowcroft
@Micaheadowcroft
The differences between Donald Trump’s economic nationalism and Javier Milei’s anarcho-capitalism are obvious, but that doesn’t make it incoherent to celebrate them both, or to call them both right-wing populists.
Quote
People and Populism, Ends and Means
You can celebrate both Trump and Milei—it’s not hard.
Micah Meadowcroft
Dec 1, 2023 12:05 AM

Celebrations by the MAGA right of Javier Milei’s victory in the Argentine presidential election have been met with accusations of incoherence. This says as much about the critics as it does global right-wing populism.

The differences between Donald Trump’s economic nationalism and Milei’s self-described anarcho-capitalism, even tempered by the guaranteed compromises of party government, are obvious. But they share more than “owning the libs.” Or, rather, such liberal ownership is more than an emotionally reactionary opportunity for schadenfreude, but a coherent, if often inarticulate, program of political restoration—that is, restoring the political to politics.

Milei, like Trump, puts persons, and personality, above process and programs.

The temptation for the conservative commentariat, Republican electioneers, and think-tank theorists, on the other hand, has been an effort to make a system out of MAGA and to define the populist moment by a set of principles.  ...
Entire article at The American Conservative (https://www.theamericanconservative.com/people-and-populism-ends-and-means/)
Title: Re: Argentina's Sergio Massa concedes presidential election to Javier Milei
Post by: Weird Tolkienish Figure on December 01, 2023, 05:06:28 pm
My hope is Trump combines some generous anarcho capitalism with his populism in his hypothetical Presidency, otherwise his President may be as disastrous as Biden's. And God knows what we'll get in 2028 then.
Title: Re: Argentina's Sergio Massa concedes presidential election to Javier Milei
Post by: sneakypete on December 01, 2023, 08:46:21 pm
My hope is Trump combines some generous anarcho capitalism with his populism in his hypothetical Presidency, otherwise his President may be as disastrous as Biden's. And God knows what we'll get in 2028 then.

@Weird Tolkenish Figure

I do. A leftist police state.

We are ALMOST there now. If anyone BUT Trump becomes the next President,we are officially  screwed.

A President that has his eyes on the history books and who can ONLY serve ONE TERM is the only hope we have for the survival of America as a free nation of free people.

Even then it  is nothing  but  a "maybe" because come the next election,the Dims are going to be ready with a "stealth" communist  candidate. This is why I hope Trump picks a VP running mate that has HIS eye on the future.
Title: Re: Argentina's Sergio Massa concedes presidential election to Javier Milei
Post by: LMAO on December 01, 2023, 08:51:32 pm
My hope is Trump combines some generous anarcho capitalism

Forget it. Not happening

A second Trump term will be about get back at detractors while growing the size of the state.

Title: Re: Argentina's Sergio Massa concedes presidential election to Javier Milei
Post by: GtHawk on December 01, 2023, 08:54:35 pm
@Weird Tolkenish Figure

I do. A leftist police state.

We are ALMOST there now. If anyone BUT Trump becomes the next President,we are officially  screwed.

A President that has his eyes on the history books and who can ONLY serve ONE TERM is the only hope we have for the survival of America as a free nation of free people.

Even then it  is nothing  but  a "maybe" because come the next election,the Dims are going to be ready with a "stealth" communist  candidate. This is why I hope Trump picks a VP running mate that has HIS eye on the future.
I know exactly what we will get in 2028 if Trump is elected, at least 8 years of democrat rule, and Trump will never pick anyone for for VP that is strong because he can't allow his ego to be outshone that's why we got milquetoast Pence. And at Trumps age people will definitely be looking at the VP when considering who to vote for because no one wants an weakling standing in the wings.
Title: Re: Argentina's Sergio Massa concedes presidential election to Javier Milei
Post by: LMAO on December 01, 2023, 08:59:29 pm
I know exactly what we will get in 2028 if Trump is elected, at least 8 years of democrat rule, and Trump will never pick anyone for for VP that is strong because he can't allow his ego to be outshone that's why we got milquetoast Pence. And at Trumps age people will definitely be looking at the VP when considering who to vote for because no one wants an weakling standing in the wings.

Who ever the Democrats run in 2024 will win regardless who the GOP nominee is.
Title: Re: Argentina's Sergio Massa concedes presidential election to Javier Milei
Post by: sneakypete on December 01, 2023, 09:00:16 pm
I know exactly what we will get in 2028 if Trump is elected, at least 8 years of democrat rule, and Trump will never pick anyone for for VP that is strong because he can't allow his ego to be outshone that's why we got milquetoast Pence. And at Trumps age people will definitely be looking at the VP when considering who to vote for because no one wants an weakling standing in the wings.

@GtHawk

I had never thought of you as a "surrender monkey".
Title: Re: Argentina's Sergio Massa concedes presidential election to Javier Milei
Post by: GtHawk on December 01, 2023, 09:28:14 pm
@GtHawk

I had never thought of you as a "surrender monkey".
I'm not, neither am a orange butt monkey, I'm just reality based and it takes no crystal ball to see that even if Trump won, we would lose, the communists would have majorities in both houses and Trump would be a lame duck president all four years. And just like his first term nothing would be accomplished except by erasable EO's.....oh except of course his rubber stamping every insane spending bill put forth by the democrats. Yay so much winning to look forward too!
Title: Re: Argentina's Sergio Massa concedes presidential election to Javier Milei
Post by: DCPatriot on December 01, 2023, 09:47:26 pm

I'm not, neither am a orange butt monkey, I'm just reality based and it takes no crystal ball to see that even if Trump won, we would lose, the communists would have majorities in both houses and Trump would be a lame duck president all four years. And just like his first term nothing would be accomplished except by erasable EO's.....oh except of course his rubber stamping every insane spending bill put forth by the democrats. Yay so much winning to look forward too!


Dayumm!! @GtHawk 

Hope you don't have a lot of guns laying around!!       happy77    :beer:

Title: Re: Argentina's Sergio Massa concedes presidential election to Javier Milei
Post by: GtHawk on December 02, 2023, 12:45:42 am
Dayumm!! @GtHawk 

Hope you don't have a lot of guns laying around!!       happy77    :beer:
Depends on what your definition of a lot is :tongue2: :beer:
Title: Re: Argentina's Sergio Massa concedes presidential election to Javier Milei
Post by: mountaineer on December 11, 2023, 02:38:24 pm
Fernando Amandi Sr.🌐
@FernandoAmandi
REMARKABLE! In his first act, newly sworn President of Argentina, Javier Milei, signs an executive order reducing the Argentine government from 21 Departments to 9. A major reduction of bureaucracy and overhead. Impressive.
6:53 PM · Dec 10, 2023
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That's how you drain the swamp!
Title: Re: Argentina's Sergio Massa concedes presidential election to Javier Milei
Post by: Bigun on December 11, 2023, 02:45:33 pm
Fernando Amandi Sr.🌐
@FernandoAmandi
REMARKABLE! In his first act, newly sworn President of Argentina, Javier Milei, signs an executive order reducing the Argentine government from 21 Departments to 9. A major reduction of bureaucracy and overhead. Impressive.
6:53 PM · Dec 10, 2023
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That's how you drain the swamp!

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