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General Category => Politics/Government => Topic started by: Sanguine on October 27, 2016, 05:25:05 pm

Title: Pollster Frank Luntz: Rubio would be up by eight points against Clinton
Post by: Sanguine on October 27, 2016, 05:25:05 pm
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Republican pollster Frank Luntz said Wednesday that Florida Sen. Marco Rubio would be leading Democratic presidential nominee Hillary Clinton by eight points if he was the Republican presidential nominee.

In addition, he told Yahoo Global News anchor Katie Couric that Ohio Gov. John Kasich, who battled for the GOP nomination during the primary season, would be besting Clinton by 12 points. He said Texas Sen. Ted Cruz, who also fought hard against Trump but ultimately endorsed him, would be “dead even” with the former secretary of state right now....


http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2016/10/27/pollster-frank-luntz-rubio-would-be-up-by-eight-points-against-clinton/

I don't know how accurate Luntz is, but some interesting thoughts.
Title: Re: Pollster Frank Luntz: Rubio would be up by eight points against Clinton
Post by: mystery-ak on October 27, 2016, 05:29:23 pm
I doubt it...they would have tried to destroy Rubio too..that is their MO

If they can demonize Mitt I can only imagine what they would do to Marco.
Title: Re: Pollster Frank Luntz: Rubio would be up by eight points against Clinton
Post by: NavyCanDo on October 27, 2016, 05:32:41 pm
imagine a Rubio / Fiorina ticket. Or any other number of combinations that would have better than Trump.
Title: Re: Pollster Frank Luntz: Rubio would be up by eight points against Clinton
Post by: Suppressed on October 27, 2016, 05:35:55 pm
I don't know how accurate Luntz is, but some interesting thoughts.

I think Cruz would be up some, too.
Title: Re: Pollster Frank Luntz: Rubio would be up by eight points against Clinton
Post by: chae on October 27, 2016, 05:36:05 pm
There were pics floating around claiming to be of Rubio partying it up at a gay foam party in Florida.
Title: Re: Pollster Frank Luntz: Rubio would be up by eight points against Clinton
Post by: Sanguine on October 27, 2016, 05:36:48 pm
There were pics floating around claiming to be of Rubio partying it up at a gay foam party in Florida.

They were pretty thoroughly debunked.
Title: Re: Pollster Frank Luntz: Rubio would be up by eight points against Clinton
Post by: aligncare on October 27, 2016, 05:41:06 pm

Truth is hardly a defense in the world of democrat operatives.
Title: Re: Pollster Frank Luntz: Rubio would be up by eight points against Clinton
Post by: GtHawk on October 27, 2016, 05:46:05 pm
Truth is hardly a defense in the world of democrat operatives.
Well not just democrat operatives.
Title: Re: Pollster Frank Luntz: Rubio would be up by eight points against Clinton
Post by: NavyCanDo on October 27, 2016, 06:26:36 pm
There were pics floating around claiming to be of Rubio partying it up at a gay foam party in Florida.


That bogus debunked story again?   Jeeeze, I though we moved past that one long long ago on this forum.
Title: Re: Pollster Frank Luntz: Rubio would be up by eight points against Clinton
Post by: Rivergirl on October 27, 2016, 06:29:30 pm
At least tRump wouldn't have called Rubio a pedophile. He already used that slander on Dr. Carson.

No end to the vile commentary available to tRump to hurl at any and all opponents.

Faux Newser,  Lou Doobs now going after the conservative from Utah.   Sickening.
Title: Re: Pollster Frank Luntz: Rubio would be up by eight points against Clinton
Post by: Wingnut on October 27, 2016, 07:34:40 pm
Truth is hardly a defense in the world of democrat operatives.

Said the Trump democrat.
Title: Re: Pollster Frank Luntz: Rubio would be up by eight points against Clinton
Post by: HonestJohn on October 27, 2016, 07:44:44 pm
There were pics floating around claiming to be of Rubio partying it up at a gay foam party in Florida.

You know, that'd probably increase crossover votes from Democrats *FOR* Rubio.
Title: Re: Pollster Frank Luntz: Rubio would be up by eight points against Clinton
Post by: chae on October 27, 2016, 08:11:16 pm
@Sanguine
@NavyCanDo

I wasn't aware that it was debunked.  I'm not saying that it was him, just that it was a story that I had heard, I'm sorry that my post appeared to be touting a not true story.   
Title: Re: Pollster Frank Luntz: Rubio would be up by eight points against Clinton
Post by: Frank Cannon on October 27, 2016, 08:15:51 pm
Thanks for the mindless sophistry Frank. Let me add that if Reagan was running he would be 50 to 60 points ahead and if Abraham Lincoln was running he would be 30 to 40 points ahead.
Title: Re: Pollster Frank Luntz: Rubio would be up by eight points against Clinton
Post by: goatprairie on October 27, 2016, 10:51:55 pm
I doubt it...they would have tried to destroy Rubio too..that is their MO

If they can demonize Mitt I can only imagine what they would do to Marco.
They try to destroy all Pubbie candidates. They've been doing that more than half a century. I remember the Goldwater campaign. Goldwater probably never had a chance after the Kennedy assassination and the sympathy vote.
But nevertheless, he received an avalanche of hate from the media who tried to convince Americans Barry wanted to blow up the world his first day in office.
Rubio was not my first choice. But he carries none of the personal baggage of Trump, and that is not a small thing. He's younger, a lot more physically attractive than Trump, a lot smarter, and clearly not crazy.
Too late now.
Title: Re: Pollster Frank Luntz: Rubio would be up by eight points against Clinton
Post by: skeeter on October 27, 2016, 10:54:26 pm
Fox News decided to go back to their GOPe pick.

How about Ted, Frank? How would he be doing right now?
Title: Re: Pollster Frank Luntz: Rubio would be up by eight points against Clinton
Post by: bolobaby on October 27, 2016, 11:53:20 pm
I think Cruz would be up some, too.

If Cruz isn't up, it is ONLY because team Trump worked so hard to besmirch the character of this good conservative, since he was the primary threat to Trump.

Without Trump, we'd all be looking fondly on Cruz and laughing at the Clinton Crash.
Title: Re: Pollster Frank Luntz: Rubio would be up by eight points against Clinton
Post by: Luis Gonzalez on October 27, 2016, 11:58:18 pm
I doubt it...they would have tried to destroy Rubio too..that is their MO

If they can demonize Mitt I can only imagine what they would do to Marco.

Except that Rubion and Kasich BEGAN the primary season polling way ahead of Hillary, and Trump polling way behind her.

Rubio, Kasich and even Jeb would be ahead double digits by now.

Trump wasn't destroyed by the Clintons or the MSM.

Trump was destroyed by his mouth, his ego, and his immaturity.
Title: Re: Pollster Frank Luntz: Rubio would be up by eight points against Clinton
Post by: Frank Cannon on October 27, 2016, 11:59:25 pm
Fox News decided to go back to their GOPe pick.

How about Ted, Frank? How would he be doing right now?

I don't know. Why are you asking me?
Title: Re: Pollster Frank Luntz: Rubio would be up by eight points against Clinton
Post by: skeeter on October 28, 2016, 12:05:20 am
I don't know. Why are you asking me?

C'mon. You drive a Lincoln. You know karate. You're a connoisseur.

You have all the answers.
Title: Re: Pollster Frank Luntz: Rubio would be up by eight points against Clinton
Post by: Frank Cannon on October 28, 2016, 12:07:28 am
C'mon. You drive a Lincoln. You know karate. You're a connoisseur.

You have all the answers.

Alright. +12 Cruz.
Title: Re: Pollster Frank Luntz: Rubio would be up by eight points against Clinton
Post by: skeeter on October 28, 2016, 12:12:18 am
Alright. +12 Cruz.

I KNEW it.
Title: Re: Pollster Frank Luntz: Rubio would be up by eight points against Clinton
Post by: NavyCanDo on October 28, 2016, 12:34:35 am
Fox News decided to go back to their GOPe pick.


Right now a GOPe pick, is sounding far more favorable than the two NY Liberal picks we have now.
Title: Re: Pollster Frank Luntz: Rubio would be up by eight points against Clinton
Post by: skeeter on October 28, 2016, 12:53:18 am
Right now a GOPe pick, is sounding far more favorable than the two NY Liberal picks we have now.

Well, then Fox News should've shoved a GOPe stooge down our throats during the primaries instead.

They are primarily responsible for Trump, IMO.
Title: Re: Pollster Frank Luntz: Rubio would be up by eight points against Clinton
Post by: Sanguine on October 28, 2016, 02:30:20 am
@Sanguine
@NavyCanDo

I wasn't aware that it was debunked.  I'm not saying that it was him, just that it was a story that I had heard, I'm sorry that my post appeared to be touting a not true story.

No biggie.  It was one of those ugly TOS-type rumors.