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Ukraine’s dolphin army in ‘patriotic hunger strike’ after Russian capture
May 17, 2018
Kiev official claims mammals starved themselves to death following takeover of military base
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Dolphins were trained to serve in the Ukrainian navy
Dolphins trained by the Ukranian military in Crimea died after going on hunger strike following their seizure by Russian troops, according to a top Ukrainian official.
The facility for training sea mammals in Sevastopol, Crimea, is one of several Ukrainian naval assets that fell under Russian control in 2014 following Moscow’s annexation of the territory.
Hopes had not been high for the welfare of the animals, with Ukrainian authorities making repeated requests for the return of the mammals, to no avail.
Read more at: http://www.theweek.co.uk/93657/ukraine-s-dolphin-army-in-patriotic-hunger-strike-after-russian-capture (http://www.theweek.co.uk/93657/ukraine-s-dolphin-army-in-patriotic-hunger-strike-after-russian-capture)
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Putin should have fed them to the sharks, on live tv.
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If this claim doesn't prove that Kiev is full of it, I don't know what does. They are biggest bunch of liars and completely ridiculous.
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Putin should have fed them to the sharks, on live tv.
Why?
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If this claim doesn't prove that Kiev is full of it, I don't know what does. They are biggest bunch of liars and completely ridiculous.
By Kiev, you mean the Russians?
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Why?
The dolphins are being used by Putsch government in Kiev, which the west helped to institute, after they actively worked toward the downfall of the legitimate government. Putin had to defend his nation against this aggression by militarily aiding west Ukraine and taking Crimea.
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The dolphins are being used by Putsch government in Kiev, which the west helped to institute, after they actively worked toward the downfall of the legitimate government. Putin had to defend his nation against this aggression by militarily aiding west Ukraine and taking Crimea.
Now, that's an interesting interpretation of the events and history. Sounds like the Russian version. As opposed to the true one.
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The dolphins are being used by Putsch government in Kiev, which the west helped to institute, after they actively worked toward the downfall of the legitimate government. Putin had to defend his nation against this aggression by militarily aiding west Ukraine and taking Crimea.
Oh you're gonna be a fun one I can tell already. The government in Kiev isn't a Putsch government. Putin invaded sovereign nation for no reason not once but twice and both times were based on a lie. Something you seem to have swallowed whole.
Let me guess...you'd support Vlad retaking Finland too. Do you think Finland committed "treason against Russian national interests"?
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Did Ukraine, through protests, overthrow their elected government, or did they not?
Did Victoria Nuland and the United States not support this, work toward this, celebrate this, give an implicit promise of help, and use taxpayer money to try to make it happen? Did they not actively work toward the overthrow of the government of Ukraine, another sovereign nation, as they have in many other sovereign nations in recent history?
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Did Ukraine, through protests, overthrow their elected government, or did they not?
You're ignoring the illegal actions taken against the protesters.
And that's a nice Russian Red herring to distract from the point of Putin invading a sovereign nation.
Putin is a Soviet thug. You wave your oh-so-pure banner of anti-interventionalism, all while it's blood-soaked by Putin.
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Did Ukraine, through protests, overthrow their elected government, or did they not?
Lots of brutal regimes have been overthrown that way. That's how the American revolution got started.
Your point?
I would say the illegitimate government was the Russian puppet that originally got elected and then ousted in the Ukraine.
Did Victoria Nuland and the United States not support this, work toward this, celebrate this, give an implicit promise of help, and use taxpayer money to try to make it happen?
No the U.S. didn't.
Did they not actively work toward the overthrow of the government of Ukraine, another sovereign nation, as they have in many other sovereign nations in recent history?
No they didn't.
By the way you didn't address the issue at hand...you just countered with question you could find on any TV "news' broadcast on Sputnik or RT.
In other words you're puking up propaganda and treating it as fact.
What about what Putin has said about Finland? Do you believe as Vlad does that they illegally separated from Russia in 1917 and are still legally a part of Mother Russia?
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Well we just saw this week that the US determines whether an action taken against protesters is illegal or not, based on whether they like/support the country that took it. It's a double standard. They wanted to overthrow Ukraine's government in order to detach an ally from Russia. It make sense for them, but Putin striking back makes sense for Russia. Who struck the very first blow? Now that is a good question that probably no one can untangle.
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Well we just saw this week that the US determines whether an action taken against protesters is illegal or not, based on whether they like/support the country that took it. It's a double standard. They wanted to overthrow Ukraine's government in order to detach an ally from Russia. It make sense for them, but Putin striking back makes sense for Russia. Who struck the very first blow? Now that is a good question that probably no one can untangle.
Who would want to be part of Russia? The standard of living is low, Putin may be the richest man in the world because of his takeover. They imprison small business men, forget the Jehovah's witnesses, they are ranked 138 of 180 countries in freedom of the press.
So, if you bring out the Russian propaganda lies, there is nothing to believe from Russia, they can't even get their doping athletes in the Olympics to represent their nation.
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Well we just saw this week that the US determines whether an action taken against protesters is illegal or not, based on whether they like/support the country that took it. It's a double standard. They wanted to overthrow Ukraine's government in order to detach an ally from Russia. It make sense for them, but Putin striking back makes sense for Russia. Who struck the very first blow? Now that is a good question that probably no one can untangle.
What is your source for your claim the U.S. was involved in overthrowing Putin's Puppet in Kiev?
The first act of war in the Crimea and the Ukraine came from Moscow.
Putin installed his puppet because he is pissed that all of the former countries that made up the USSR of his youth were becoming NATO partner states and now adhering to their old WARSAW Pact allegiances.
So he lied about NAZI's in the Crimea and claimed he was protecting ethnic Russians in the Ukraine.
The claim that this was a popular uprising in the Ukraine that he's supporting is a lie too. He's sending in front line Russian troops dressed as "freedom fighters" and hiring former Spetsnaz troops being used as mercenaries and paid by Russia.
And to cover up the fact he's lying to the folks back home in Mother Russia...when the active duty troops he's sent into the Ukraine die...he's burning the bodies so there is no evidence.
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Well we just saw this week that the US determines whether an action taken against protesters is illegal or not, based on whether they like/support the country that took it. It's a double standard. They wanted to overthrow Ukraine's government in order to detach an ally from Russia. It make sense for them, but Putin striking back makes sense for Russia. Who struck the very first blow? Now that is a good question that probably no one can untangle.
It is irrelevant who struck the first blow. Ukraine is a sovereign nation and they did indeed overthrow the Russian puppet government.
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It make sense for them, but Putin striking back makes sense for Russia. Who struck the very first blow?
Please give me the date that Ukraine invaded Russia, before Russia had to "strike back".
Hint: there is none, because Russia wasn't "striking back"...they were unilateral aggressors against a sovereign nation.
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What about what Putin has said about Finland? Do you believe as Vlad does that they illegally separated from Russia in 1917 and are still legally a part of Mother Russia?
I think @LucasWhite will continue to ignore this, as he backs a wholly indefensible aggressor.
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Thousands of people sat out for months in the Euro Maidan protests and some of that weather was biting cold. Saying this was a coup seems pretty "lame" as I have heard some informed people note before. If one goes the conspiracy way, that's a lot of people who participated. That former Ukraine president was impeached and left on his own.
(https://www.migrationpolicy.org/sites/default/files/source_images/AProtestoratEuromaidan-IvanBandura-Flickr.jpg)
(http://www.iwm.at/wp-content/uploads/Euromaidan_Kyiv_1-12-13_by_Gnatoush_007_Slider.jpg)
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I think @LucasWhite will continue to ignore this, as he backs a wholly indefensible aggressor.
Look I am for Putin's aggression. If he ruled the world, it would be a better place. You would never get another knock on your door from Jehovah's Witnesses! :silly:
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Please give me the date that Ukraine invaded Russia, before Russia had to "strike back".
Hint: there is none, because Russia wasn't "striking back"...they were unilateral aggressors against a sovereign nation.
Russia had to strike back at US aggression. They actively worked to overturn the legitimate government of a neighboring country that was his nation's ally. He would not have been doing his job to his people if he did not. Of course, Americans would have preferred a Gorbachev response.
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Russia had to strike back at US aggression. They actively worked to overturn the legitimate government of a neighboring country that was his nation's ally. He would not have been doing his job to his people if he did not. Of course, Americans would have preferred a Gorbachev response.
Who says this? The Russian press ranked 138th in the world in freedom of the press out of 180 nations? Consortium news? Antiwar.com? Pat Buchanan?
Also, calling Ukraine an ally of Russia shows what would be a lack of information, that Yankovich fellow, the former president of Ukraine was pro-West at first. Then, change for some reason.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Viktor_Yanukovych
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Who says this? The Russian press ranked 138th in the world in freedom of the press out of 180 nations? Consortium news? Antiwar.com? Pat Buchanan?
Also, calling Ukraine an ally of Russia shows what would be a lack of information, that Yankovich fellow, the former president of Ukraine was pro-West at first. Then, change for some reason.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Viktor_Yanukovych (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Viktor_Yanukovych)
It is one of those things that are hard to prove either way, because secretive by nature. Here is a link though to a German article on it:
https://www.zeit.de/politik/ausland/2015-05/ukraine-usa-maidan-finance (https://www.zeit.de/politik/ausland/2015-05/ukraine-usa-maidan-finance)
The United States has spent millions on Ukraine over the past few decades. Where did the money go?
Not many believe Mr. Traynor’s theory, but one person who does is the respected Professor John Mearsheimer, who teaches political science at the University of Chicago. He says that Washington continues to try to influence Ukraine even a decade after the Orange Revolution. He’s convinced that the Maidan protests – eventually responsible for the ousting of Mr. Yanukovych on February 22, 2014 – were several years in the making and backed by American cash. A putsch. "America wanted a change, because it wanted to gain influence over Ukraine," Prof. Mearsheimer says.
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I meant that the government was much more favorable to Russia than the current one, which hates Russia.
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Look I am for Putin's aggression. If he ruled the world, it would be a better place. You would never get another knock on your door from Jehovah's Witnesses! :silly:
No just a knock in the night from the NKVD as you're dragged out of your house in the middle of the night and summarily executed for not displaying the proper thinking or thrown into a cell in the basement at Lubyanka Square.
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Russia had to strike back at US aggression. They actively worked to overturn the legitimate government of a neighboring country that was his nation's ally. He would not have been doing his job to his people if he did not. Of course, Americans would have preferred a Gorbachev response.
That's not an answer to the question. That's propaganda designed to avoid the hard truth.
Answer the question.
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That's not an answer to the question. That's propaganda designed to avoid the hard truth.
Answer the question.
You asked what date Ukraine invaded Russia, which is not what I had claimed. I think that Russia was justified on behalf of the Russian-speaking Ukranians in the East, if for no other reason. They wanted to be part of Russia and many were willing to give their lives fighting against the new protest-installed government, that toppled the legitimate government.
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It is one of those things that are hard to prove either way, because secretive by nature. Here is a link though to a German article on it:
https://www.zeit.de/politik/ausland/2015-05/ukraine-usa-maidan-finance (https://www.zeit.de/politik/ausland/2015-05/ukraine-usa-maidan-finance)
The United States has spent millions on Ukraine over the past few decades. Where did the money go?
Not many believe Mr. Traynor’s theory, but one person who does is the respected Professor John Mearsheimer, who teaches political science at the University of Chicago. He says that Washington continues to try to influence Ukraine even a decade after the Orange Revolution. He’s convinced that the Maidan protests – eventually responsible for the ousting of Mr. Yanukovych on February 22, 2014 – were several years in the making and backed by American cash. A putsch. "America wanted a change, because it wanted to gain influence over Ukraine," Prof. Mearsheimer says.
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I meant that the government was much more favorable to Russia than the current one, which hates Russia.
Yep. There's nuts everywhere. Some of them squirrely than others.
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Yep. There's nuts everywhere. Some of them squirrely than others.
@Sanguine
And of course Comrade Lukas picks someone like John Mearsheimer who blames the Jews...specifically the "Israel Lobby" for shaping Foreign Policy...and is naturally sympathetic to the terrorist organization that is the PLO in their struggle against Israel.
*****rollingeyes*****
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You asked what date Ukraine invaded Russia, which is not what I had claimed. I think that Russia was justified on behalf of the Russian-speaking Ukranians in the East, if for no other reason. They wanted to be part of Russia and many were willing to give their lives fighting against the new protest-installed government, that toppled the legitimate government.
No. @txradioguy asked about Finland. I asked about when Ukraine invaded Russia, as you claimed the Soviets Russians invading Ukraine was a "strike back". Well, Ukraine didn't strike Russia at all.
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You asked what date Ukraine invaded Russia, which is not what I had claimed. I think that Russia was justified on behalf of the Russian-speaking Ukranians in the East, if for no other reason. They wanted to be part of Russia and many were willing to give their lives fighting against the new protest-installed government, that toppled the legitimate government.
You realize Russia is using the "Russian-speaking people" of the Baltic states and Finland as a pretext for possible invasion (Crimea style), right?
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Was the West determined to transform Ukraine into a pro-Western democracy? The United States and Europe pumped several billions of dollars into Ukrainian civil society projects since 1991, while remaining indifferent to the Leonid Kuchma regime’s slide toward authoritarianism in the late 1990s, the abandonment by Yushchenko’s “Orange government†of its democratic reform agenda and Viktor Yanukovych’s establishment of a full-fledged authoritarian regime in 2010-2013.
Some Western policymakers supported the Maidan Revolution rhetorically and insisted that Yanukovych seek a compromise with the democratic revolutionaries; but most did not. No Western state actually provided any material assistance to the Maidan.
And no Western presidents or prime ministers called on Yanukovych to step down during the revolution: Quite the contrary, they traveled to Kiev in late February 2014 with the express purpose of saving him. Once he abandoned his office, many Western policymakers welcomed his move—but that was after, and not before, the fact.
Did NATO ever push Ukraine to join the alliance? The answer is no. And for good reason: It was (and still is) unready to make the commitment, under its Article 5, to rush to Ukraine’s assistance in case of an attack by Russia.
Three months after the Yushchenko government formally requested a “membership action plan†as a first step toward joining NATO, the alliance’s North Atlantic Council in April 2008 issued the vaguest “welcome†possible of “Ukraine’s and Georgia’s Euro-Atlantic aspirations for membership.†While NATO declined to repudiate the Open Door principle it had declared a decade earlier (with the less vulnerable and more viable Poland and Czech Republic in mind), it also dampened the Yushchenko government’s ardor, declining to issue the requested membership plan and promising instead to talk about it.
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Putin's Real Motive
Did Putin seize the Crimea because of the West’s desire to transform Ukraine into its bastion? From the start, Putin has explained the seizure in terms of some putative need to protect Russians from the “fascist junta†in Kiev and to bring “sacred†Russian territory back into the fold. He began invoking the Western threat only after war with Ukraine had broken out and the West chose to support Kiev.
The fact is that Putin unleashed war against Ukraine for the same reasons that Saddam Hussein unleashed war against revolutionary Iran in 1980: to prevent revolutionary contagion, to punish the revolutionaries and to take advantage of their weakness to make territorial gains.
Supporters of the view that NATO enlargement provoked Russia are right about one thing. Enlarging NATO in 2004, just as Putin was consolidating his authoritarian regime and developing visions of imperial expansion, created an impossible security conundrum for Ukraine. NATO enlargement effectively sent Russia an unmistakably strong signal: that Ukraine was outside the West’s security interests and thus was fair game for Russia.
http://www.newsweek.com/putins-invasion-ukraine-dont-blame-west-311996 (http://www.newsweek.com/putins-invasion-ukraine-dont-blame-west-311996)
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You realize Russia is using the "Russian-speaking people" of the Baltic states and Finland as a pretext for possible invasion (Crimea style), right?
@Cyber Liberty
And Vlad will use that excuse to reunite the old USSR if his power grab goes unchecked. The Soviet Union made sure there were "Russian speaking people" in every satellite country and SSR that used to fall under their control.
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@Cyber Liberty
And Vlad will use that excuse to reunite the old USSR if his power grab goes unchecked. The Soviet Union made sure there were "Russian speaking people" in every satellite country and SSR that used to fall under their control.
Exactly.
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You realize Russia is using the "Russian-speaking people" of the Baltic states and Finland as a pretext for possible invasion (Crimea style), right?
Yes, there is always a pretext, and Russia and the US both want every nation to be on their side.
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http://www.newsweek.com/putins-invasion-ukraine-dont-blame-west-311996 (http://www.newsweek.com/putins-invasion-ukraine-dont-blame-west-311996)
Newsweek is basically a tabloid, big Antifa supporters and consistently ridiculous. No offense, but I can't take anything posted on that site seriously.
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You asked what date Ukraine invaded Russia, which is not what I had claimed. I think that Russia was justified on behalf of the Russian-speaking Ukranians in the East, if for no other reason. They wanted to be part of Russia and many were willing to give their lives fighting against the new protest-installed government, that toppled the legitimate government.
And that is more propaganda, the people of the East Ukraine speak mainly Ukrainian, they don't want the trouble that Putin and the Nationalist bring. Hey, Russia's population is still in decline but I will wager that the Ethnic Russian Muslim population is growing while the ethnic Russian Christian/other is not. Vlad knows that, Daniel Pipes has written all about that. So, enjoy whatever fantasies one has.
Muslim Russia?
by Daniel Pipes
The Washington Times
October 21, 2013
http://www.danielpipes.org/13531/muslim-russia (http://www.danielpipes.org/13531/muslim-russia)
In fact, it's been conjectured, the one way to stave this off for some time, is if Ukraine and Russia merged.
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Newsweek is basically a tabloid, big Antifa supporters and consistently ridiculous. No offense, but I can't take anything posted on that site seriously.
And your sources are the wildest as well... more so, from an unfree press or the conspiracy types.
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Newsweek is basically a tabloid, big Antifa supporters and consistently ridiculous. No offense, but I can't take anything posted on that site seriously.
Truth hurts eh Comrade.
And you talking about propaganda is pretty rich considering the pro Putin talking points take you're regurgitating here. And citing liberal left wing German rags like Die Zeit.
That kinda crap might work on someone who hasn't spent much time in Europe...not gonna fly with me.
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Yes, there is always a pretext, and Russia and the US both want every nation to be on their side.
Then why do we help the countries that hate us the most, the most lavishly?
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Russia, friends of North Korea, Assad, etc.
Assad, that Syrian buddy, has a park in Damascus dedicated to the founder of North Korea.
https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2015/08/syria-names-park-capital-korea-founder-150831194857490.html (https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2015/08/syria-names-park-capital-korea-founder-150831194857490.html)
Axis of evil.
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You realize Russia is using the "Russian-speaking people" of the Baltic states and Finland as a pretext for possible invasion (Crimea style), right?
That sounds familiar. Someone else used that excuse too to invade other lands. Hmmmm..
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Chechnya, Russia is multi-ethnic though, the majority seem to be "Russian" but clearly, it is so big, there are places where other ethnic people are the majority, should they be allowed to break away?
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Look I am for Putin's aggression. If he ruled the world, it would be a better place. You would never get another knock on your door from Jehovah's Witnesses! :silly:
@LucasWhite
The world would be a better place with a KGB strongman "ruling" it, and secret police dragging people from their homes at night? With Putin poisoning his enemies and rigging elections?
Lol
You know TBR is attracting attention when it gets its first Russian troll. Yay, us!
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Newsweek is basically a tabloid, big Antifa supporters and consistently ridiculous. No offense, but I can't take anything posted on that site seriously.
Says the guy quoting AlJaezera.... :silly:
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@LucasWhite
The world would be a better place with a KGB strongman "ruling" it, and secret police dragging people from their homes at night? With Putin poisoning his enemies and rigging elections?
Lol
You know TBR is attracting attention when it gets its first Russian troll. Yay, us!
888high58888
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I'm bookmarking this. I'll read it tomorrow when I'm in a happier mood.
I like dolphins. I don't want. To see them hurt 888cryingkitty
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Truth hurts eh Comrade.
And you talking about propaganda is pretty rich considering the pro Putin talking points take you're regurgitating here. And citing liberal left wing German rags like Die Zeit.
That kinda crap might work on someone who hasn't spent much time in Europe...not gonna fly with me.
Oh, you think that Newsweek is of a sound mind politically? You agree with most of their opinions? I don't give a damn about Die Zeit, or any of those news sources, all suspect. The bottom line is that Putin is a pro-Christian, authoritative, masculine, anti-degenerate man who would run this world a lot better than your American politicians ever would (see Libya, Iraq). I don't mind if he lies about his reasons for taking over land in Europe. I wish he would take over Germany, Sweden, etc, and depose their governments. Of course, this is probably not going to happen but it would be better for the world if it did.
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Russia, friends of North Korea, Assad, etc.
Assad, that Syrian buddy, has a park in Damascus dedicated to the founder of North Korea.
https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2015/08/syria-names-park-capital-korea-founder-150831194857490.html (https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2015/08/syria-names-park-capital-korea-founder-150831194857490.html)
Axis of evil.
I am Assad's biggest fan. Go read how Syria was pre-1970, pre-Hafez-Assad. It was a mess, one government toppling another, incredibly unstable. Hafez Assad stabilized Syria and made it a better place for Syrians including Christians, and Bashar al-Assad and his army has heroically defended it, risking their lives. Assad did not run like Mubarak did. Syrians (the smart ones) don't want western interests ruling them any more, had enough of that under the French mandate.
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Oh, you think that Newsweek is of a sound mind politically? You agree with most of their opinions? I don't give a damn about Die Zeit, or any of those news sources, all suspect. The bottom line is that Putin is a pro-Christian, authoritative, masculine, anti-degenerate man who would run this world a lot better than your American politicians ever would (see Libya, Iraq). I don't mind if he lies about his reasons for taking over land in Europe. I wish he would take over Germany, Sweden, etc, and depose their governments. Of course, this is probably not going to happen but it would be better for the world if it did.
Oh you're back...must be time for your shift to start at the Russian Troll Farm.
As for sources...just remember There is no Pravda in Izvestiya and there is no Izvestiya in Pravda.
Same goes for Sputnik and RT.
Like you they are all full of propagandist crap.
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I am Assad's biggest fan. Go read how Syria was pre-1970, pre-Hafez-Assad. It was a mess, one government toppling another, incredibly unstable. Hafez Assad stabilized Syria and made it a better place for Syrians including Christians, and Bashar al-Assad and his army has heroically defended it, risking their lives. Assad did not run like Mubarak did. Syrians (the smart ones) don't want western interests ruling them any more, had enough of that under the French mandate.
Bless your heart.
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Says the guy quoting AlJaezera.... :silly:
Al-Jaezera is garbage too. There are few that are not.
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Oh you're back...must be time for your shift to start at the Russian Troll Farm.
As for sources...just remember There is no Pravda in Izvestiya and there is no Izvestiya in Pravda.
Same goes for Sputnik and RT.
Like you they are all full of propagandist crap.
You are full of propagandist crap from the American media.
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Al-Jaezera is garbage too. There are few that are not.
You do realize you flush any semblance of credibility you bring to this debate by trashing the very sources you use to try and make your point don't you?
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Well at least the Ukraine still has it's Fluffy Kitten Army.
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You are full of propagandist crap from the American media.
Says the РоÑÑÐ¸Ñ troll spewing Bolshevik BS. :silly:
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Is this guy a Bot?
1st we have Dem Plants. Now this.
Oy Vey.
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Says the РоÑÑÐ¸Ñ troll spewing Bolshevik BS. :silly:
Turnabout is fair play.
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Is this guy a Bot?
1st we have Dem Plants. Now this.
Oy Vey.
@Wingnut
Can't tell if he's a DU n00b trying to earn his street cred on $kimmer's Island or if he's working at the Russian Troll Farm.
Either way he's such a tool he should have Craftsman tattooed on his forehead.
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I am Assad's biggest fan. Go read how Syria was pre-1970, pre-Hafez-Assad. It was a mess, one government toppling another, incredibly unstable. Hafez Assad stabilized Syria and made it a better place for Syrians including Christians, and Bashar al-Assad and his army has heroically defended it, risking their lives. Assad did not run like Mubarak did. Syrians (the smart ones) don't want western interests ruling them any more, had enough of that under the French mandate.
Assad harbored fugitive Nazis, as well as Palestinian, Kurdish and other terrorists. He thus subverted the chances of a secure and durable peace both with Israel and Turkey, and undermined U.S. policy in the region. He rejected offers of peaceful resolution of Israeli-Syrian differences - both territorial and political -- over the past 30 years, and the government-controlled media in Syria was a veritable fountain of anti-Semitic vitriol and Holocaust-denial.
Terrorists operating from Syrian-controlled territory were responsible for the Marine Corps Barracks bombing in Beirut, killing 240 American soldiers, and the bombing of the U.S. Embassy in Beirut killing scores of others.
http://www.jinsa.org/jinsa-reports/assad-was-ruthless-dictator (http://www.jinsa.org/jinsa-reports/assad-was-ruthless-dictator)
It's pretty clear, that those terrorists, suicide bombers (mainly Iranian or Hezbollah I think) who attacked the Beirut Barracks during the Reagan presidency did it from Syria. So, that really shows, there could be complicity with terrorists too.
More incontrovertible proof, Assad's government gave refuge to Saddam's brother and the US almost invaded Syria as well, because that is where many terrorists operated from.
All of this can be linked, vs. just saying disinformation.
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Turnabout is fair play.
Ummm...yeah ok. I'm not trashing the sources I use to prove my point. That would be counter productive.
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@Wingnut
Can't tell if he's a DU n00b trying to earn his street cred on $kimmer's Island or if he's working at the Russian Troll Farm.
Either way he's such a tool he should have Craftsman tattooed on his forehead.
That is Perfect. Specially seeing how far the Craftsman brand has descended into the shitter!
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It's pretty clear, that those terrorists, suicide bombers (mainly Iranian or Hezbollah I think) who attacked the Beirut Barracks during the Reagan presidency did it from Syria. So, that really shows, there could be complicity with terrorists too.
More incontrovertible proof, Assad's government gave refuge to Saddam's brother and the US almost invaded Syria as well, because that is where many terrorists operated from.
All of this can be linked, vs. just saying disinformation.
Assad and his father were/are two of the most brutal thugs in the Middle East. They took most if not all of Iraq's WMD munitions and production machinery in the opening days of the 2003 ground war. We have drone footage of the convoy moving across the border unfettered.
Yet this Bolshevik toolbag thinks Assad Senior and Junior are heroes of the country.
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You are full of propagandist crap from the American media.
But you are only using State-sponsored media as Sputnik is.
If I don't like CBS, I can go to Daily Caller or any number of sources. You are giving the exact state line, there press is not free.
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But you are only using State-sponsored media as Sputnik is.
If I don't like CBS, I can go to Daily Caller or any number of sources. You are giving the exact state line, there press is not free.
Excellent point.
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I am aware of the aerial pictures purportedly of Saddam's WMDs leaving Iraq, I in fact, posted it about a month ago.
(http://www.worldtribune.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/12/TRUCKSsyria-iraq-wmd11.jpg)
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Quick refresher: http://www.gopbriefingroom.com/index.php/topic,308154.0.html (http://www.gopbriefingroom.com/index.php/topic,308154.0.html)
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Excellent point.
Nothing like a blatant troll to bring kumbayah moments to TBR.
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Is this guy a Bot?
1st we have Dem Plants. Now this.
Oy Vey.
Word on the street is he is a Romanian Bot, otherwise known as a Ro Bot.
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You do realize you flush any semblance of credibility you bring to this debate by trashing the very sources you use to try and make your point don't you?
No, that's not true. Someone can reference an opposition source to show that even they agree/admit something. For example, 'look even Salon admits that there are x number of abortions per year'.
Now, in this case, I did post an Al-Jazeera link in the Anne Frank thread, titled 'Critics denounce South Carolina's new 'anti-Semitism' law'. This was because there are not many articles about it, because the American media is intentionally ignoring it. I followed it up with a Reuters article. My goal was just to show that there is an "anti-Semitism" measure in South Carolina.
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But you are only using State-sponsored media as Sputnik is.
If I don't like CBS, I can go to Daily Caller or any number of sources. You are giving the exact state line, there press is not free.
Lies are lies, and truth is truth. Your "free" sources have their own masters.
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As for me, I am dropping out of this conversation.
A lot of things get defended here that attract a crowd, like if I defend for example (which I don't) same-sex marriage, I will definitely get a lot of responses about why it is wrong.
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Lies are lies, and truth is truth. Your "free" sources have their own masters.
And the master of the crap you're spewing is a former KGB Major who likes to poison people he dislikes for sport.
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Word on the street is he is a Romanian Bot, otherwise known as a Ro Bot.
He reminds me of that A-lert feller. But that was before your time!....
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As for me, I am dropping out of this conversation.
A lot of things get defended here that attract a crowd, like if I defend for example (which I don't) same-sex marriage, I will definitely get a lot of responses about why it is wrong.
Okay, I think you all are good people. No, I'm not a Russian Bot, and I didn't mean to start an argument there. Was browsing on Friday when I was tired and it just sort of happened. We agree on a lot so maybe I can offer you some support on other issues in other threads.
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Okay, I think you all are good people. No, I'm not a Russian Bot, and I didn't mean to start an argument there. Was browsing on Friday when I was tired and it just sort of happened. We agree on a lot so maybe I can offer you some support on other issues in other threads.
I'll be mildly surprised...given your alt right views and love of Putin and Assad that you can offer support in any other thread.
But we'll see.
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He reminds me of that A-lert feller. But that was before your time!....
LOL. Oh, I remember A-bert. What a shitbag.
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Lies are lies, and truth is truth. Your "free" sources have their own masters.
Yes, and the US does not have a reputation for journalists being killed like Russia, maybe Turkey and other countries have.
Athletes not admitted to the Olympics because of doping? Russia again.
And everything is a grand conspiracy against Russia. That's it.
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LOL. Oh, I remember A-bert. What a shitbag.
The good old days at the BR. :smokin: When men were men and the Dem Plants where skittish!
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We agree on a lot so maybe I can offer you some support on other issues in other threads.
I hope so, @LucasWhite