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Title: Dan Bongino: The Stunning Reason Why Rod Rosenstein Will Be the First Witness Before Senate Committe
Post by: mystery-ak on May 28, 2020, 04:28:03 pm
Dan Bongino: The Stunning Reason Why Rod Rosenstein Will Be the First Witness Before Senate Committee

Posted at 9:00 pm on May 27, 2020 by Elizabeth Vaughn

This afternoon, it was reported that former Deputy Attorney General Rod Rosenstein will be the first witness to testify before the Senate Judiciary Committee next week.

I’ve never understood why Rosenstein, who has played such a pivotal role in the investigation of President Trump, has received so little scrutiny. Although he projects the persona of a boy scout, he is one of the vipers slithering through the muck of the Washington swamp. In March 2017, then-Attorney General Jeff Sessions made the disastrous decision to recuse himself from the Trump/Russia collusion case because he had met twice during the 2016 presidential campaign with Russian ambassador Sergey Kislyak. This remarkably poor choice, which left Rosenstein in charge of the FBI’s investigation, changed the course of history.

We all know Rosenstein is the man who appointed Robert Mueller in May 2017 to investigate allegations that President Trump may have colluded with the Russians to win the presidency and may have obstructed justice. We also know he wrote the memo which outlined the reasons why FBI Director James Comey should be fired. After Trump fired Comey and this memo became public, The New York Times reported that Rosenstein had been “anguished.” And, yes, The Times reported that he’d offered to wear a wire into the White House to record President Trump.

We’ve known all those things and more. But it was in February, while watching Dan Bongino’s podcast, that I learned something truly stunning. Rosenstein had met with FBI agents on April 28, 2017, and then again on May 23, 2017. The FBI 302s (summary written by an FBI agent following an interview) from those briefings had just been declassified and they revealed a bombshell.

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https://www.redstate.com/elizabeth-vaughn/2020/05/27/844759/ (https://www.redstate.com/elizabeth-vaughn/2020/05/27/844759/)
Title: Re: Dan Bongino: The Stunning Reason Why Rod Rosenstein Will Be the First Witness Before Senate Comm
Post by: libertybele on May 28, 2020, 04:39:27 pm
Dan Bongino: The Stunning Reason Why Rod Rosenstein Will Be the First Witness Before Senate Committee

Posted at 9:00 pm on May 27, 2020 by Elizabeth Vaughn

This afternoon, it was reported that former Deputy Attorney General Rod Rosenstein will be the first witness to testify before the Senate Judiciary Committee next week.

I’ve never understood why Rosenstein, who has played such a pivotal role in the investigation of President Trump, has received so little scrutiny. Although he projects the persona of a boy scout, he is one of the vipers slithering through the muck of the Washington swamp. In March 2017, then-Attorney General Jeff Sessions made the disastrous decision to recuse himself from the Trump/Russia collusion case because he had met twice during the 2016 presidential campaign with Russian ambassador Sergey Kislyak. This remarkably poor choice, which left Rosenstein in charge of the FBI’s investigation, changed the course of history.

We all know Rosenstein is the man who appointed Robert Mueller in May 2017 to investigate allegations that President Trump may have colluded with the Russians to win the presidency and may have obstructed justice. We also know he wrote the memo which outlined the reasons why FBI Director James Comey should be fired. After Trump fired Comey and this memo became public, The New York Times reported that Rosenstein had been “anguished.” And, yes, The Times reported that he’d offered to wear a wire into the White House to record President Trump.

We’ve known all those things and more. But it was in February, while watching Dan Bongino’s podcast, that I learned something truly stunning. Rosenstein had met with FBI agents on April 28, 2017, and then again on May 23, 2017. The FBI 302s (summary written by an FBI agent following an interview) from those briefings had just been declassified and they revealed a bombshell.

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https://www.redstate.com/elizabeth-vaughn/2020/05/27/844759/ (https://www.redstate.com/elizabeth-vaughn/2020/05/27/844759/)

What the article didn't state and I still find extremely troubling is Trump is the one who appointed Rosenstein. 
Title: Re: Dan Bongino: The Stunning Reason Why Rod Rosenstein Will Be the First Witness Before Senate Comm
Post by: Hoodat on May 28, 2020, 04:54:07 pm
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Rosenstein knew President Trump was not a suspect, but he still went ahead and appointed a Special Counsel to investigate him. He needs to explain why he did that, under oath.

He did it because Hillary lost.
Title: Re: Dan Bongino: The Stunning Reason Why Rod Rosenstein Will Be the First Witness Before Senate Comm
Post by: Right_in_Virginia on May 28, 2020, 05:03:55 pm
What the article didn't state and I still find extremely troubling is Trump is the one who appointed Rosenstein.

I think it's helpful to remember the timeline @libertybele  When Trump announced the nomination of  Rosenstein for Deputy AG on Jan 31, 2017 he did so based on recommendations and a stellar curriculum vitae.  Rosenstein would immediately fill the roll of acting Dep AG replacing fired Sally Yates (an Obama holdover) while awaiting Sessions' confirmation. 

Once Sessions was confirmed AG, Rosenstein would report to him.   The President did not know Sessions would recuse himself from the "Russia Inquiry" until Sessions announced it on Mar 2, 2017.  Rosenstein had been serving as acting Dep. AG since February 1, 2017.  He would be confirmed on Apr 25.

We'll never know if a special counsel would have been appointed if Sessions had not recused himself, or if he had resigned and paved the way for the appointment of a fully-functioning Attorney General.

A little more on Rosenstein's background used in the decision making during the transition period:

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Rosenstein, appointed as the state's top federal prosecutor by Republican President George W. Bush in 2005, is the longest-serving U.S. attorney in the country. He has earned praise from both sides of the aisle in the role, despite working in a heavily Democratic state.

News of the nomination filtered out in mid-January, prior to Trump's inauguration. The White House formally announced the appointment late Tuesday.

The announcement came a day after Trump fired acting Attorney General Sally Yates, a holdover from the Obama administration, after she announced she had directed Justice Department attorneys not to defend the president's temporary travel ban on seven majority-Muslim countries in court.

Rosenstein, 52, must be confirmed by the Senate. The Senate voted unanimously in 2005 to confirm his nomination as U.S. attorney.

Rosenstein would serve under Sen. Jeff Sessions, assuming the Alabama Republican is confirmed by the Senate as Trump's attorney general.

A Harvard-trained lawyer and Bethesda resident, Rosenstein prosecuted Black Guerrilla Family gang members, inmates and corrections officers who devised a massive contraband smuggling scheme at the Baltimore City Detention Center in 2013.

He alleged a similar scheme at the Eastern Correctional Institution in Westover last year, — filing the largest federal indictment in Maryland history.

He has also used federal anti-racketeering laws to prosecute violent gangs, and has been applauded for bringing together law enforcement at all levels of government to fight crime.

http://www.baltimoresun.com/politics/bal-trump-to-nominate-rod-rosenstein-deputy-attorney-general-20170131-story.html (http://www.baltimoresun.com/politics/bal-trump-to-nominate-rod-rosenstein-deputy-attorney-general-20170131-story.html)




Title: Re: Dan Bongino: The Stunning Reason Why Rod Rosenstein Will Be the First Witness Before Senate Comm
Post by: libertybele on May 28, 2020, 05:09:12 pm
He did it because Hillary lost.

Exactly.  Consequently Rosenstein appointed Mueller -- BOTH men had former ties to the Clinton in one way or another .... we know that the prior administration is the guilty party of collusion, unlawful wiretapping, e-mails, etc.... so basically Rosenstein and Mueller were investigating themselves and Sessions even made a comment similar to that.
Title: Re: Dan Bongino: The Stunning Reason Why Rod Rosenstein Will Be the First Witness Before Senate Comm
Post by: aligncare on May 28, 2020, 05:10:49 pm
What the article didn't state and I still find extremely troubling is Trump is the one who appointed Rosenstein.

Yes, but he couldn’t have imagined the depth and breath of the conspiracy that was evolving around him at the time.

Needless to say, as Bongino points out, Sessions’ ill considered recusal was the opening the coup needed.
Title: Re: Dan Bongino: The Stunning Reason Why Rod Rosenstein Will Be the First Witness Before Senate Comm
Post by: Right_in_Virginia on May 28, 2020, 05:16:31 pm
Yes, but he couldn’t have imagined the depth and breath of the conspiracy that was evolving around him at the time.

Needless to say, as Bongino points out, Sessions’ ill considered recusal was the opening the coup needed.

The coup plotters needed two events to happen:  1.  The removal of Michael Flynn and 2.  The neutering of Jeff Sessions while retaining the AG office.

They got both. .... And earlier than they could have hoped.



Title: Re: Dan Bongino: The Stunning Reason Why Rod Rosenstein Will Be the First Witness Before Senate Comm
Post by: Right_in_Virginia on May 28, 2020, 05:17:25 pm
Exactly.  Consequently Rosenstein appointed Mueller -- BOTH men had former ties to the Clinton in one way or another .... we know that the prior administration is the guilty party of collusion, unlawful wiretapping, e-mails, etc.... so basically Rosenstein and Mueller were investigating themselves and Sessions even made a comment similar to that.

Please see the timeline I posted to you above @libertybele
Title: Re: Dan Bongino: The Stunning Reason Why Rod Rosenstein Will Be the First Witness Before Senate Comm
Post by: libertybele on May 28, 2020, 05:32:18 pm
Please see the timeline I posted to you above @libertybele

I'm aware of the timeline --- Rosenstein has served under several presidents.  I get that. He was already in "play".  I get that as well. Fact still remains, Trump appointed him.  He made an assumption then with Rosenstein without any hesitation or research.  That was a horrible move.
Title: Re: Dan Bongino: The Stunning Reason Why Rod Rosenstein Will Be the First Witness Before Senate Comm
Post by: aligncare on May 28, 2020, 05:34:35 pm
The coup plotters needed two events to happen:  1.  The removal of Michael Flynn and 2.  The neutering of Jeff Sessions while retaining the AG office.

They got both. .... And earlier than they could have hoped.

And it frosts me to no end that republican NeverTrumpers always seem to find some piddling fault with Donald Trump! The gall these people have is spectacularly misplaced—no, damaging—to the rule of law and the republic they claim to love.
Title: Re: Dan Bongino: The Stunning Reason Why Rod Rosenstein Will Be the First Witness Before Senate Comm
Post by: libertybele on May 28, 2020, 05:42:34 pm
And it frosts me to no end that republican NeverTrumpers always seem to find some piddling fault with Donald Trump! The gall these people have is spectacularly misplaced—no, damaging—to the rule of law and the republic they claim to love.

If you are putting me in the "category of a NT'er -- stop.  Not the case.  Bottom line --- Trump appointed BOTH Sessions and Rosenstein.  Sessions I believe was bought and paid for soon after he took office, and I questioned Trump picking him from the very beginning. I was floored when he appointed Rosenstein of all people; anyone who had any affiliation with Clinton or Obama should have been shown the door ... even Bush.
Title: Re: Dan Bongino: The Stunning Reason Why Rod Rosenstein Will Be the First Witness Before Senate Comm
Post by: aligncare on May 28, 2020, 06:16:13 pm
@libertybele

I’m talking about republican NeverTrumpers. Is that you? Do you self identify as NT? No.

Jeez, how many times do I have to say it? Listen, this is very important. There are many people in the republican ranks who “hate” Donald Trump and would never vote for him, and as a big Trump supporter it’s those Republicans who are targets of and deserving of my ire, not you. You know me and I know you.

C’mon man! (In my best Joe Biden voice)
Title: Re: Dan Bongino: The Stunning Reason Why Rod Rosenstein Will Be the First Witness Before Senate Comm
Post by: Hoodat on May 28, 2020, 06:20:50 pm
NTs are about as bad as ATs.
Title: Re: Dan Bongino: The Stunning Reason Why Rod Rosenstein Will Be the First Witness Before Senate Comm
Post by: Smokin Joe on May 28, 2020, 06:28:05 pm
Comey, Mueller bungled big anthrax case together

https://www.ocregister.com/2017/05/21/comey-mueller-bungled-big-anthrax-case-together/ (https://www.ocregister.com/2017/05/21/comey-mueller-bungled-big-anthrax-case-together/)

While it may not seem related, this documents the actions of the two attack dogs who pursued an innocent man for years against all indications, creating 'evidence', and eventually the US Settled for over 5 million with the scientist who was the focus of these attacks, all the while the guilty party was still drawing a paycheck in his lab.

This speaks to the nature of the attack dogs brought in to go after, ultimately, Trump.
Title: Re: Dan Bongino: The Stunning Reason Why Rod Rosenstein Will Be the First Witness Before Senate Comm
Post by: Smokin Joe on May 28, 2020, 06:29:19 pm
NTs are about as bad as ATs.
Right. Credit where credit is due, let the chips fall where they may and call 'em a you see 'em.

An obscure concept once known as "Being Fair".
Title: Re: Dan Bongino: The Stunning Reason Why Rod Rosenstein Will Be the First Witness Before Senate Comm
Post by: aligncare on May 28, 2020, 06:30:40 pm
NTs are about as bad as ATs.

Supporting our president in the face of this leftist, socialist criminal media onslaught is doing God’s work—it’s not a bad thing. I love my country and love my president for putting his life on hold and putting up with this shit. He deserved better from republicans.
Title: Re: Dan Bongino: The Stunning Reason Why Rod Rosenstein Will Be the First Witness Before Senate Comm
Post by: DCPatriot on May 28, 2020, 06:42:52 pm
If you are putting me in the "category of a NT'er -- stop.  Not the case.  Bottom line --- Trump appointed BOTH Sessions and Rosenstein.  Sessions I believe was bought and paid for soon after he took office, and I questioned Trump picking him from the very beginning. I was floored when he appointed Rosenstein of all people; anyone who had any affiliation with Clinton or Obama should have been shown the door ... even Bush.


He's speaking about people who hang out in Republican circles never missing an opportunity to criticize and/or fault the POTUS.

It's telling however, to see so many members feel the need to publicly declare their support for the Man, thereby distancing themselves from the NTs.

Poor @aligncare    So misunderstood!     :laugh:    :patriot:
Title: Re: Dan Bongino: The Stunning Reason Why Rod Rosenstein Will Be the First Witness Before Senate Comm
Post by: aligncare on May 28, 2020, 07:14:16 pm

He's speaking about people who hang out in Republican circles never missing an opportunity to criticize and/or fault the POTUS.

It's telling however, to see so many members feel the need to publicly declare their support for the Man, thereby distancing themselves from the NTs.

Poor @aligncare    So misunderstood!     :laugh:    :patriot:

Here’s the thing. I think we could all agree Trump entered the office without the usual honeymoon period of good will afforded most presidents. He didn’t get one iota of let up from the lies and attacks from day one. And republicans sat on their hands, were silent for over a year and a half when they should have been defending their party’s leader. That was spineless and wrong.

And in spite of that, Trump soldiered on and got things, good things, done. He deserves credit, not scorn from republicans. Even knowing now of the treachery and deceit he faced from the start (Russian collusion my ass), republicans here still find fault with him for fighting back using whatever tactics he could at his disposal within the context of the challenges he faced. And it’s wrong to criticize him for that. These were not normal times nor normal circumstances.

I’m hoping when he is re-elected that he will get cooperation from those people whose cause he fights for. But, knowing how dirty politics and politicians are, I don’t expect it.
Title: Re: Dan Bongino: The Stunning Reason Why Rod Rosenstein Will Be the First Witness Before Senate Comm
Post by: Right_in_Virginia on May 28, 2020, 08:09:03 pm
, Trump appointed him.  He made an assumption then with Rosenstein without any hesitation or research. 

What are you basing this assertion on @libertybele ?   



Title: Re: Dan Bongino: The Stunning Reason Why Rod Rosenstein Will Be the First Witness Before Senate Comm
Post by: Cyber Liberty on May 28, 2020, 08:46:07 pm
Whether or not it was intended, Mueller keeping the investigation going, over a year after he knew it was going to come up empty, had the desired effect of handing the House back over to the Rats so they could Impeach Trump on any contrived charge.  Everybody knew it would fail in the Senate, but it was a good way to eat up Years 3 and 4 of the Trump Administration. 

The way the Rats have played their COVID hand, Trump has a golden opportunity to restore the House, and win the uphill battle to save the Senate.   If he succeeds, I would not want to be in the Mueller/Brennan cabal.
Title: Re: Dan Bongino: The Stunning Reason Why Rod Rosenstein Will Be the First Witness Before Senate Comm
Post by: Smokin Joe on May 28, 2020, 09:06:13 pm
Whether or not it was intended, Mueller keeping the investigation going, over a year after he knew it was going to come up empty, had the desired effect of handing the House back over to the Rats so they could Impeach Trump on any contrived charge.  Everybody knew it would fail in the Senate, but it was a good way to eat up Years 3 and 4 of the Trump Administration. 

The way the Rats have played their COVID hand, Trump has a golden opportunity to restore the House, and win the uphill battle to save the Senate.   If he succeeds, I would not want to be in the Mueller/Brennan cabal.
With Comey and Mueller, this is an established pattern of behaviour.

They did the same thing in the Anthrax case in 2001, pursuing Dr. Hatfil for years, relentlessly destroying his reputation, employment opportunities, finances, etc. Dr. Hatfil was a virologist, not someone with access to Anthrax (a bacillus). Brady Material was ignored or suppressed, they'd 'found' their guy and were going to get him, until someone else figured out Ivins was the likely perp (Ivins never was tried and convicted, but suicided).
Title: Re: Dan Bongino: The Stunning Reason Why Rod Rosenstein Will Be the First Witness Before Senate Comm
Post by: verga on May 28, 2020, 09:31:35 pm
BKMK
Title: Re: Dan Bongino: The Stunning Reason Why Rod Rosenstein Will Be the First Witness Before Senate Comm
Post by: libertybele on May 28, 2020, 09:51:32 pm
What are you basing this assertion on @libertybele ?

Rosenstein's work is affiliated with the Clintons, Bush and Obama.   Sessions had ordered Rosenstein to resign -- Trump refused his resignation.  You tell me why Trump was so bent on keeping him. Are you trying to say that Rosenstein was a good choice and devoid of any corruption??

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rod_Rosenstein
Title: Re: Dan Bongino: The Stunning Reason Why Rod Rosenstein Will Be the First Witness Before Senate Comm
Post by: Smokin Joe on May 28, 2020, 11:18:44 pm
Rosenstein's work is affiliated with the Clintons, Bush and Obama.   Sessions had ordered Rosenstein to resign -- Trump refused his resignation.  You tell me why Trump was so bent on keeping him. Are you trying to say that Rosenstein was a good choice and devoid of any corruption??

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rod_Rosenstein
Nope. But you can't knock 'em out of the saddle if they're sitting in the stands.
Title: Re: Dan Bongino: The Stunning Reason Why Rod Rosenstein Will Be the First Witness Before Senate Comm
Post by: Jazzhead on May 28, 2020, 11:54:10 pm
Trump is right about 90 percent of the time on policy,  but he's killing his own chances.

Trump enjoys very solid Republican support.  The so-called never-Trumpers are largely a myth.   It is with independents where he is danger of throwing it all away. 

The Dems are making it explicit that a re-elected Trump will have no peace.   They want independents to cry uncle.  Trump ought to be able to stop playing the Dems' tribal-warfare game.   But he won't, or can't.  Perhaps it's because he thinks his base demands it.

I fear it is a fatal error.

Title: Re: Dan Bongino: The Stunning Reason Why Rod Rosenstein Will Be the First Witness Before Senate Comm
Post by: libertybele on May 28, 2020, 11:57:57 pm
Nope. But you can't knock 'em out of the saddle if they're sitting in the stands.

So ... he couldn't appoint someone else??
Title: Re: Dan Bongino: The Stunning Reason Why Rod Rosenstein Will Be the First Witness Before Senate Comm
Post by: Smokin Joe on May 29, 2020, 12:02:32 am
So ... he couldn't appoint someone else??
He is free to appoint whom he chooses, but catching an active bureaucrat in abusing their office is more devastating to a career, and may afford little in retirement benefits for the one caught.
Title: Re: Dan Bongino: The Stunning Reason Why Rod Rosenstein Will Be the First Witness Before Senate Comm
Post by: Cyber Liberty on May 29, 2020, 12:29:31 am
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Title: Re: Dan Bongino: The Stunning Reason Why Rod Rosenstein Will Be the First Witness Before Senate Comm
Post by: DCPatriot on May 29, 2020, 12:50:33 am
Trump is right about 90 percent of the time on policy,  but he's killing his own chances.

Trump enjoys very solid Republican support.  The so-called never-Trumpers are largely a myth.   It is with independents where he is danger of throwing it all away. 

The Dems are making it explicit that a re-elected Trump will have no peace.   They want independents to cry uncle.  Trump ought to be able to stop playing the Dems' tribal-warfare game.   But he won't, or can't.  Perhaps it's because he thinks his base demands it.

I fear it is a fatal error.

Generally speaking, "Independents" are thinking people.  They're not going anywhere. 

This is about deciding to go back to record jobs and economic numbers, or do you want to "demand change"...like the citizens of Venezuela did once upon a time.
Title: Re: Dan Bongino: The Stunning Reason Why Rod Rosenstein Will Be the First Witness Before Senate Comm
Post by: Jazzhead on May 29, 2020, 01:26:26 am
Generally speaking, "Independents" are thinking people.  They're not going anywhere. 

Don't kid yourself.  Independents ARE smart,  and they can't stand the brain farts of Trump's stupid doggone tweets.

They sure are embarrassing to defend, especially when they are unforced errors. 

The tweets are driving independents away.  Without them, Trump loses.   Trump has got to listen to his State of the Union again and adopt that message and tone. On that, I trust you and I agree.




Title: Re: Dan Bongino: The Stunning Reason Why Rod Rosenstein Will Be the First Witness Before Senate Comm
Post by: Cyber Liberty on May 29, 2020, 01:32:25 am
I've decided to give up.  All y'all decide who you want for a King, since we've decided we don't want a Republic anymore.

Bye.
Title: Re: Dan Bongino: The Stunning Reason Why Rod Rosenstein Will Be the First Witness Before Senate Comm
Post by: DCPatriot on May 29, 2020, 01:40:16 am
Don't kid yourself.  Independents ARE smart,  and they can't stand the brain farts of Trump's stupid doggone tweets.

They sure are embarrassing to defend, especially when they are unforced errors. 

The tweets are driving independents away.  Without them, Trump loses.   Trump has got to listen to his State of the Union again and adopt that message and tone. On that, I trust you and I agree.

You should have stopped at "Independents are smart......"

They won't give a fig in November when given the binary choice.  Not if they love their children and grandchildren they won't.
Title: Re: Dan Bongino: The Stunning Reason Why Rod Rosenstein Will Be the First Witness Before Senate Comm
Post by: Right_in_Virginia on May 29, 2020, 03:44:19 am
Rosenstein's work is affiliated with the Clintons, Bush and Obama.   Sessions had ordered Rosenstein to resign -- Trump refused his resignation.  You tell me why Trump was so bent on keeping him. Are you trying to say that Rosenstein was a good choice and devoid of any corruption??

You're looking through the prism of hindsight's 20/20 vision ... judging decisions made in 2017 on information we've uncovered in 2019/2020.  I choose not to play this game @libertybele  ... I think it's a meaningless exercise cluttering where we are now and obstructing our path to justice.
Title: Re: Dan Bongino: The Stunning Reason Why Rod Rosenstein Will Be the First Witness Before Senate Comm
Post by: Smokin Joe on May 29, 2020, 09:36:57 am
Don't kid yourself.  Independents ARE smart,  and they can't stand the brain farts of Trump's stupid doggone tweets.

They sure are embarrassing to defend, especially when they are unforced errors. 

The tweets are driving independents away.  Without them, Trump loses.   Trump has got to listen to his State of the Union again and adopt that message and tone. On that, I trust you and I agree.
Driving them away to what? Babbling Biden? Seriously?

As I have said before, the best policy is to shift the message to a "Yes, we can", Rosie the Riveter and other upbeat mentality that we, and I stress WE (not government) are going to rebuild America better, faster, stronger than ever.

That's the winning message.
Title: Re: Dan Bongino: The Stunning Reason Why Rod Rosenstein Will Be the First Witness Before Senate Comm
Post by: verga on May 29, 2020, 02:29:54 pm
Driving them away to what? Babbling Biden? Seriously?

As I have said before, the best policy is to shift the message to a "Yes, we can", Rosie the Riveter and other upbeat mentality that we, and I stress WE (not government) are going to rebuild America better, faster, stronger than ever.

That's the winning message.
Frankly the only ones I see voting for Biden are the diehard NT's and Libtards. Record low unemployment across the board. Steady increase on Wall street, we are respected by our allies and feared by our enemies.
Title: Re: Dan Bongino: The Stunning Reason Why Rod Rosenstein Will Be the First Witness Before Senate Comm
Post by: Jazzhead on May 29, 2020, 03:25:46 pm
Driving them away to what? Babbling Biden? Seriously?

As I have said before, the best policy is to shift the message to a "Yes, we can", Rosie the Riveter and other upbeat mentality that we, and I stress WE (not government) are going to rebuild America better, faster, stronger than ever.

That's the winning message.

Yes,  that's a winning message,  that will be drowned out by the manufactured hullabaloo over Trump's tweets.

Sometimes I think that Trump would just as soon lose so long as he can play the martyr.   As for those of us who fear a radicalized Dem party returned to power through the Trojan horse of Joe Biden,  we are sick and tired of Trump's appetite for self-destruction.

All is on the verge of bring lost.
Title: Re: Dan Bongino: The Stunning Reason Why Rod Rosenstein Will Be the First Witness Before Senate Comm
Post by: Right_in_Virginia on May 29, 2020, 03:58:33 pm
Sometimes I think that Trump would just as soon lose so long as he can play the martyr.   

Fascinating.  You call this thinking.
Title: Re: Dan Bongino: The Stunning Reason Why Rod Rosenstein Will Be the First Witness Before Senate Comm
Post by: truth_seeker on May 29, 2020, 04:15:37 pm
@Jazzhead

Your other recent answers: John Kasich, Niki Haley, Mark Sanford, J Jo Jorgensen

May I suggest politican judgment, may  not be in your wheelhouse?



Title: Re: Dan Bongino: The Stunning Reason Why Rod Rosenstein Will Be the First Witness Before Senate Comm
Post by: Bigun on May 29, 2020, 04:49:17 pm
"I wish it need not have happened in my time," said Frodo.

"So do I," said Gandalf, "and so do all who live to see such times. But that is not for them to decide. All we have to decide is what to do with the time that is given us."


- J. R. R. Tolkien
Title: Re: Dan Bongino: The Stunning Reason Why Rod Rosenstein Will Be the First Witness Before Senate Comm
Post by: Jazzhead on May 29, 2020, 04:51:35 pm
@Jazzhead


Your other recent answers: John Kasich, Niki Haley, Mark Sanford, J Jo Jorgensen

May I suggest politican judgment, may  not be in your wheelhouse?

I don't give a rat's ass what you think of me or my "judgement",  @truth_seeker .  Or you either,  @Right_in_Virginia   

We'll see how things turn out in November.  Until then,  enjoy your dreams and carry on with your hero worship.  I see the storm coming,  and it breaks my heart.  Especially when good people won't use the two eyes God gave them to see that Trump's flaws are going to doom us all.

TTFN
Title: Re: Dan Bongino: The Stunning Reason Why Rod Rosenstein Will Be the First Witness Before Senate Comm
Post by: libertybele on May 29, 2020, 04:54:43 pm
You're looking through the prism of hindsight's 20/20 vision ... judging decisions made in 2017 on information we've uncovered in 2019/2020.  I choose not to play this game @libertybele  ... I think it's a meaningless exercise cluttering where we are now and obstructing our path to justice.

Rosenstein's affiliation with the Clintons was enough reason for me to question Trump's choice ... not a matter of information being uncovered; information or at least suspected information has been surrounding Hillary for quite sometime.  Enough said.
Title: Re: Dan Bongino: The Stunning Reason Why Rod Rosenstein Will Be the First Witness Before Senate Comm
Post by: libertybele on May 29, 2020, 04:56:35 pm
Yes,  that's a winning message,  that will be drowned out by the manufactured hullabaloo over Trump's tweets.

Sometimes I think that Trump would just as soon lose so long as he can play the martyr.   As for those of us who fear a radicalized Dem party returned to power through the Trojan horse of Joe Biden,  we are sick and tired of Trump's appetite for self-destruction.

All is on the verge of bring lost.

Your logic on this is baffling ... Trump wanting to lose?  Are you kidding me?? He THRIVES on WINNING!  It's all about winning for him and I certainly don't see in the least that he has an appetite for self-destruction; he's a survivor.
Title: Re: Dan Bongino: The Stunning Reason Why Rod Rosenstein Will Be the First Witness Before Senate Comm
Post by: Right_in_Virginia on May 29, 2020, 05:25:26 pm
I don't give a rat's ass what you think of me or my "judgement",  @truth_seeker .  Or you either,  @Right_in_Virginia   

I agree you don't give a rat's ass ... you give much more.  Or you would have just passed us by.   88devil
Title: Re: Dan Bongino: The Stunning Reason Why Rod Rosenstein Will Be the First Witness Before Senate Comm
Post by: truth_seeker on May 29, 2020, 05:56:10 pm
I don't give a rat's ass what you think of me or my "judgement",  @truth_seeker .  Or you either,  @Right_in_Virginia   



TTFN

@Jazzhead

History indicates the winning candidate will be from one of the two major parties.

Assuming it is Trump v. Biden, then Trump stands an excellent chance of activating voter concers, as he did in 2016.

Think 1968, 1972.

Substitute the word "wisdom" for "judgment" if you like.

Think "Silent Majority," think "Bradley Effect."
Title: Re: Dan Bongino: The Stunning Reason Why Rod Rosenstein Will Be the First Witness Before Senate Comm
Post by: Hoodat on May 29, 2020, 06:16:23 pm
In @Jazzhead 's defense:  Although I offer zero opinion on the content of what he has posted, his comments do indicate that there is a third option here other than AT or NT.  The vast majority of posters here fall into that third category.  It doesn't mean that all of us in that category agree with each other all of the time.  But it does illustrate the possibility that a person can agree with Trump some of the time and disagree some of the time.

From my own standpoint, I am sick and tired of being labeled NT just because I don't agree with the liberal left-wing position Trump took on something or because I am unwilling to accept it simply because Trump was the one who did it.  It really is OK to take a polar position on Conservatism v. progressive fascism instead of taking one on pro-anti Trump.
Title: Re: Dan Bongino: The Stunning Reason Why Rod Rosenstein Will Be the First Witness Before Senate Comm
Post by: roamer_1 on May 29, 2020, 06:24:26 pm
I've decided to give up.  All y'all decide who you want for a King, since we've decided we don't want a Republic anymore.

Bye.

My brother from another mother.  :beer:
Title: Re: Dan Bongino: The Stunning Reason Why Rod Rosenstein Will Be the First Witness Before Senate Comm
Post by: Smokin Joe on May 29, 2020, 06:30:56 pm
Yes,  that's a winning message,  that will be drowned out by the manufactured hullabaloo over Trump's tweets.

Sometimes I think that Trump would just as soon lose so long as he can play the martyr.   As for those of us who fear a radicalized Dem party returned to power through the Trojan horse of Joe Biden,  we are sick and tired of Trump's appetite for self-destruction.

All is on the verge of bring lost.
All? Nope. And there is no way you can turn it around and blame Trump for the perfidy of the various agencies and their handlers for the mess they've made in this country, except to presume that they did this solely to attack him, and would not have done much the same to any other Republican in the White House.

After Valerie Jarrett's little bit about "paybacks" the regime expected another 8 years to dismantle America as we knew it through "fundamental change". They didn't get it and have been having a sh*tf*t ever since.
America is getting tired, but by no means is ready to surrender to the likes of the people who have made their entire raison d'etre to attack the duly elected POTUS for four years,leaving the business of the country to rot.

I think a large number of Americans are inclined to get back what they had built, and to work for it.
(Just have government GTF out of the way, thankyouverymuch!)

Title: Re: Dan Bongino: The Stunning Reason Why Rod Rosenstein Will Be the First Witness Before Senate Comm
Post by: Jazzhead on May 29, 2020, 06:56:57 pm
Fascinating.  You call this thinking.

The evidence of his self- destructiveness is, to me, overwhelming.   Stop patting yourself on the back - it is supporters like you who should be offering the man some constructive criticism.   He won't listen to folks like me, even though I support most of his policies.   I'm just the enemy, same as the libs.

The time for getting through to the man is running short.  Stop kissing his ass and do something.

Title: Re: Dan Bongino: The Stunning Reason Why Rod Rosenstein Will Be the First Witness Before Senate Comm
Post by: Cyber Liberty on May 29, 2020, 07:02:51 pm
The evidence of his self- destructiveness is, to me, overwhelming.   Stop patting yourself on the back - it is supporters like you who should be offering the man some constructive criticism.   He won't listen to folks like me, even though I support most of his policies.   I'm just the enemy, same as the libs.

The time for getting through to the man is running short.  Stop kissing his ass and do something.

Chill.
Title: Re: Dan Bongino: The Stunning Reason Why Rod Rosenstein Will Be the First Witness Before Senate Comm
Post by: Right_in_Virginia on May 29, 2020, 07:13:35 pm
The time for getting through to the man is running short.  Stop kissing his ass and do something.

Learn to love it ...

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Title: Re: Dan Bongino: The Stunning Reason Why Rod Rosenstein Will Be the First Witness Before Senate Comm
Post by: aligncare on May 29, 2020, 07:17:40 pm
Now that’s funny. The picture of Trump; billionaire, TV star, best selling author and president of the United States turning to Jazzhead and RIV for constructive criticism. 

Well I’m sure if he did do that he just might live up to his potential and get somewhere in this world.

 :silly:
Title: Re: Dan Bongino: The Stunning Reason Why Rod Rosenstein Will Be the First Witness Before Senate Comm
Post by: Cyber Liberty on May 29, 2020, 07:23:11 pm
Now that’s funny. The picture of Trump; billionaire, TV star, best selling author and president of the United States turning to Jazzhead and RIV for constructive criticism. 

Well I’m sure if he did do that he just might live up to his potential and get somewhere in this world.

 :silly:

I'm a bit more concerned about people shooting up GOP offices this morning than I am about a fellow who's been raining on Trump since the escalator.
Title: Re: Dan Bongino: The Stunning Reason Why Rod Rosenstein Will Be the First Witness Before Senate Comm
Post by: truth_seeker on May 30, 2020, 12:48:32 am
I'm a bit more concerned about people shooting up GOP offices this morning than I am about a fellow who's been raining on Trump since the escalator.

Bullhead is a nearly ideal place, for locals to defend agaiinst a threat.
Title: Re: Dan Bongino: The Stunning Reason Why Rod Rosenstein Will Be the First Witness Before Senate Comm
Post by: Cyber Liberty on May 30, 2020, 01:01:09 am
Bullhead is a nearly ideal place, for locals to defend agaiinst a threat.

Especially my corner of it.  Two roads in or out, and badlands all around.  Heck, you would not know the place exists if you weren't driving into the neighborhood to visit.

It still felt weird finding out this morning that the GOP Headquarters in BHC were shot up a couple hours after we left it yesterday.
Title: Re: Dan Bongino: The Stunning Reason Why Rod Rosenstein Will Be the First Witness Before Senate Comm
Post by: truth_seeker on May 30, 2020, 02:07:27 am
Especially my corner of it.  Two roads in or out, and badlands all around.  Heck, you would not know the place exists if you weren't driving into the neighborhood to visit.

It still felt weird finding out this morning that the GOP Headquarters in BHC were shot up a couple hours after we left it yesterday.

I was once VP Finance, for a medium sized engineering firm. One main duty was leasing extra space. We were next to a freeway. We took a round on that side of the building. A prospecctive tenant backed out after the incident.
Title: Re: Dan Bongino: The Stunning Reason Why Rod Rosenstein Will Be the First Witness Before Senate Comm
Post by: DCPatriot on May 30, 2020, 02:18:00 am
I was once VP Finance, for a medium sized engineering firm. One main duty was leasing extra space. We were next to a freeway. We took a round on that side of the building. A prospecctive tenant backed out after the incident.

That scene from 'American Assassin' comes to mind.