:odrama:There are roughly 320,000,000 people in America. Nearly 319,999,998 of the are better than either stumpy or hitlery. The likelihood that Kristol's find could be worse that stumpy or hitlery is slim.
Hope it's not another....
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Hope it's not another....
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WHY IN THE WORLD WOULD ANYONE WITH A GRAIN OF SENSE CARE WHAT A RINO HAS TO SAY about ANYTHING?Because many of us think that both stumpy and hitlery are worse than "RINOS" (a term I'm retiring from personal use). stumpy and hitlery are both tending toward socialist, hitlery in an international perspective, stumpy in a nationalist one.
IF YOU DO YOU SRE NO BETTER THAN HE IS!!!!!!!
OH THE F'n drama!l!!
WHY IN THE WORLD WOULD ANYONE WITH A GRAIN OF SENSE CARE WHAT A RINO HAS TO SAY about ANYTHING?
IF YOU DO YOU SRE NO BETTER THAN HE IS!!!!!!!
OH THE F'n drama!l!!
I would have more confidence in a different source. But who knows. I can't wait to hear who they've got.He sounds as if he knows something. Given where he sits on the GOP spectrum, his idea of a great candidate is likely to be quite different from mine. So I don't know what to make of it yet. Good or bad, time will tell if it is true at all.
He's talking about Gary Johnson, the Libertarian. He was chosen as nominee, with William Weld as VP.
He's talking about Gary Johnson, the Libertarian. He was chosen as nominee, with William Weld as VP.Do you think Krystol considers Johnson to be "an impressive one, with a strong team"? He also said that the candidate would be independent, and Johnson, be in the Libertarian Party, IMO wouldn't be classified as an independent.
Bill Kristol Claiming He Has An Independent Candidate
Twitter ^ | May 29, 2016 | Pinkbell
Posted on 5/29/2016, 5:56:32 PM by Pinkbell
Per Twitter
"Just a heads up over this holiday weekend: There will be an independent candidate--an impressive one, with a strong team and a real chance."
-Bill Kristol
Who is it, Mittens?
This absolutely disgusts me. This fool is going to cost us the election because he and some bitter Cruz supporters didn't get their way. He knows it will split the vote and we won't win. A few things:
1)He wants to cause enough of a vote split where no candidate has the 270. Ok. Let's say he does that. He will literally be usurping the will of all the people who voted for Trump in the primaries and general (which will be way more than his guy).
2)That assumes his candidate will even win one state. I would venture to guess his candidate won't win a single state but will divide the votes enough to help Hillary.
3)Maybe he wants Hillary. I had a Cruz supporter tell me on Twitter he'd rather 4 years of Hillary (he says it will only be 4 years) and 2 Supreme Court picks from her (he insists it will only be 2) so he can get a conservative like Cruz in 4 years.
Somewhere Hillary is cackling at the stupid party and "principled" conservatives who are willing to torpedo Trump to get all or nothing.
Let's hope either Bill is bluffing or this fails. Even Trump the other day seemed to concede it would give Hillary the election.
It takes a special kind of elitist attitude to usurp the voters of your own party and tell them you know better.
Because many of us think that both stumpy and hitlery are worse than "RINOS" (a term I'm retiring from personal use). stumpy and hitlery are both tending toward socialist, hitlery in an international perspective, stumpy in a nationalist one.
FR isn't taking it well... can anyone confirm that he just wants to prevent any candidate from getting 270? That's an insane plan! LOL
To say nothing of the fact that Trump is being embraced by RINOs by the dozen. He is part of the problem, enriching himself through crony capitalism- and certainly not the solution.
Hitlery should have been serving her prison term by now.
FR isn't taking it well... can anyone confirm that he just wants to prevent any candidate from getting 270? That's an insane plan! LOL
There are roughly 320,000,000 people in America. Nearly 319,999,998 of the are better than either stumpy or hitlery. The likelihood that Kristol's find could be worse that stumpy or hitlery is slim.
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Hope it's not another....
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Kristol: Independent candidate will challenge Trump and Clinton
http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/kristol-independent-candidate-will-challenge-trump-and-clinton/article/2592566#.V0tnKwPRuzk.twitter
From the Washington Examiner.
Agree completely. The point right now isn't the appearance of the true conservative, but a sober, experienced and honest hand who isn't a crazy fascist or a corrupt socialist.
Is Perot still alive?
Saw that. I scooped TOS by almost a half hour. :tongue2:
To: Pinkbell
Who is Bill Kristol working for?
China?
Need a team of private investigators on Kristol’s activities past and present.
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He's rested He's white like a bleached skull. The McCainiac is Back Baby!
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Freepers on the case. Double naught spies ramping up!
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3435053/posts?page=28#28
Freepers on the case. Double naught spies ramping up!
Freepers on the case. Double naught spies ramping up!
Speaking of the Libertarian Party it seemed Gary Johnson was saying the LP would be the only 3rd party in all 50 states; so, we'll see. Maybe it's not too late.
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@realDonaldTrump
If dummy Bill Kristol actually does get a spoiler to run as an Independent, say good bye to the Supreme Court!
Got under Trump's skin:
So what? What does FR have to do with TBR?
Donald J. Trump @realDonaldTrump 41m41 minutes ago
Bill Kristol has been wrong for 2yrs-an embarrassed loser, but if the GOP can't control their own, then they are not a party. Be tough, R's!
Notice, Trump doesn't consider himself a Republican. He refers to "they" in the GOP.
There's no "we" in Trump's candidacy. Just a big ole fat "Me."
Right.
Clue number 2001..... for any paying attention.
Donald J. Trump @realDonaldTrump 41m41 minutes ago
Bill Kristol has been wrong for 2yrs-an embarrassed loser, but if the GOP can't control their own, then they are not a party. Be tough, R's!
Notice, Trump doesn't consider himself a Republican. He refers to "they" in the GOP.
There's no "we" in Trump's candidacy. Just a big ole fat "Me."
WHY IN THE WORLD WOULD ANYONE WITH A GRAIN OF SENSE CARE WHAT A RINO HAS TO SAY about ANYTHING?
IF YOU DO YOU SRE NO BETTER THAN HE IS!!!!!!!
OH THE F'n drama!l!!
Donald J. Trump @realDonaldTrump 41m41 minutes ago
Bill Kristol has been wrong for 2yrs-an embarrassed loser, but if the GOP can't control their own, then they are not a party. Be tough, R's!
Notice, Trump doesn't consider himself a Republican. He refers to "they" in the GOP.
There's no "we" in Trump's candidacy. Just a big ole fat "Me."
Well, I'm not a Republican, so, I guess it won't be an be issue when I vote for Bill Kristol's third party, and, hopefully, throws the election into the House of Representatives, and avoids either hitlery or stumpy.
I am not a Republican either. I re-registered as unaffiliated the day Cruz suspended his campaign and Trump was Mr. Hideous Presumptive.
Well, I'm not a Republican, so, I guess it won't be an be issue when I vote for Bill Kristol's third party, and, hopefully, throws the election into the House of Representatives, and avoids either hitlery or stumpy.
If the election were to go to the House, and that is very unlikely, Donald Trump would absolutely be our next president. The vast majority of House GOP members would vote for their party's nominee...an easy call for nearly all of them.
Oh, yeah! Looks like us #Nevertrump may have some for which to vote other than warmed-over Libertarians, and the dregs of the Constitution Party.
Does this so-called third party candidate have a realistic possibility of winning any electoral college votes?
If so, which states?
If not, I would posit that any third party candidate as being a reincarnation of Ross Perot (i.e., a spoiler who handed the WH to the Hildabeast's husband).
Welp, Cruz could pull Texas, Romney could pull Utah, Kasich could pull Ohio, for example. Long shots, but it could happen. Depends on how strong or weak Hillary's support is.All I can say is that any Kristol-supported third party candidate better be able to win some electoral college votes and simultaneously not allow other states to flip. If not, then this third party candidate will toss the election to Her Thighness. And that might actually be Kristol's goal.
The Weekly Standard Editor Bill Kristol said Wednesday that he would rather have Hillary Clinton in the White House than the Republican front-runner.
All I can say is that any Kristol-supported third party candidate better be able to win some electoral college votes and simultaneously not allow other states to flip. If not, then this third party candidate will toss the election to Her Thighness. And that might actually be Kristol's goal.
Remember back in March (http://www.newsmax.com/Newsfront/bill-kristol-donald-trump-president-weekly-standard/2016/03/02/id/717115/):
I am very, very suspicious of anything he does.
Yah. Hillary would have to be greatly, greatly weakened for the plan to work. She could be weakened by either being indicted, or perhaps if Bernie supporters go for the Green party or libertarians.That, in my mind, is the ONLY way for it to have a possibility of working.
This is a horrible, but fascinating election.
All I can say is that any Kristol-supported third party candidate better be able to win some electoral college votes and simultaneously not allow other states to flip. If not, then this third party candidate will toss the election to Her Thighness. And that might actually be Kristol's goal.
Remember back in March (http://www.newsmax.com/Newsfront/bill-kristol-donald-trump-president-weekly-standard/2016/03/02/id/717115/):
I am very, very suspicious of anything he does.
As bad as hitlery is (and I view her as calamirously bad), I think stumpy is worse. I don't expect, for example, that as president, hitlery's loose lopsided would destabilize the market for US debt.
As bad as hitlery is (and I view her as calamirously bad), I think stumpy is worse. I don't expect, for example, that as president, hitlery's loose lopsided would destabilize the market for US debt.You and I will have to agree to disagree on that point.
I agree. And thank you for being brave enough to say this so clearly. We don't need to make America great again---it's always been our "greatness" that's destabilized the global economy, not to even mention what "America First" has done to world security. And besides, the world knows the Clintons and knows they understand the rules. We don't need another American "cowboy", even if he is just an orangutan from New York--especially one who understands Capitalism and seems to be so damn fond of it **nononono*Your stupid, lame attempt at sarcasm makes the fatal mistake of assuming because I think stumpy is absolute the worst American ever to have lived that I think hitlery is just peachy. No, I don't. It isn't that hitlery is peachy but rather that she is not the worst American ever. She is, at worst, the third worst American to have ever lived, behind stumpy and the kenyan anti-christ.
At least with Hillary we know what we're getting. We'll be just fine without borders and I never bought into that nonsense that we're not wealthy enough to take care of undocumented folks---even if they don't pay taxes. Hell, let the billionaires pay more. That's why we have them, right? LOL! ^-^
But seriously, Hillary is our last, best chance at healing the rifts between blacks and whites--and Hispanics in this country. She is, and really always has been, a unifier. And I think being a grandma has really softened her edges, don't you agree? And all this BS about emails and laundered foreign money is just about on my last nerve. Leave her alone already, she's working for us!
And Hillary knows and believes in the Constitution of the United States! She won't be looking to go beyond the system of checks and balances. Hillary has never shown any inclination to say "I" will do this or that. Hillary doesn't talk about "me", "me", "me". She'll work the system and get things done --- smoothly because the media will be on her side. Finally, an end to gridlock! I can only imagine how happy Congressional leaders are at the mere thought of this.
So other than the occasional death of a couple of special forces "heroes" and the rise of a couple of Mullahs; other than a little tweeking of the second amendment and a government controlled private sector, we'll be staying on the right course for the United States of America!
Good, good call @sitetest! Viva La Hillary!!! :patriot:
Welcome to TBR!! :beer:
WHY IN THE WORLD WOULD ANYONE WITH A GRAIN OF SENSE CARE WHAT A RINO HAS TO SAY about ANYTHING?
IF YOU DO YOU SRE NO BETTER THAN HE IS!!!!!!!
OH THE F'n drama!l!!
Your stupid, lame attempt at sarcasm makes the fatal mistake of assuming because I think stumpy is absolute the worst American ever to have lived that I think hitlery is just peachy. No, I don't. It isn't that hitlery is peachy but rather that she is not the worst American ever. She is, at worst, the third worst American to have ever lived, behind stumpy and the kenyan anti-christ.
It isn't that I expect a secure bkrder, the overall limitation of government, and a declining debt under hitlery. But I don't expect these things under stumpy, either. And face it, it is your god, stumpy, who suggested that the US default on its debt, the single most stupid thing ever uttered by a supposedly-intelligent lifeform.
There are just too many gross stupidities on the part of stumpy to recite in a format less-than-book-length. hitlery is incompetent and evil. stumpy isn't intelligent enough to be incompetent. But he's just as evil.
For its level of stupidity, we need a new word.
The only thing sadder than stumpy are the voters who voted for him.
Your stupid, lame attempt at sarcasm
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Your stupid, lame attempt at sarcasm makes the fatal mistake of assuming because I think stumpy is absolute the worst American ever to have lived that I think hitlery is just peachy. No, I don't. It isn't that hitlery is peachy but rather that she is not the worst American ever. She is, at worst, the third worst American to have ever lived, behind stumpy and the kenyan anti-christ.
It isn't that I expect a secure bkrder, the overall limitation of government, and a declining debt under hitlery. But I don't expect these things under stumpy, either. And face it, it is your god, stumpy, who suggested that the US default on its debt, the single most stupid thing ever uttered by a supposedly-intelligent lifeform.
There are just too many gross stupidities on the part of stumpy to recite in a format less-than-book-length. hitlery is incompetent and evil. stumpy isn't intelligent enough to be incompetent. But he's just as evil.
For its level of stupidity, we need a new word.
The only thing sadder than stumpy are the voters who voted for him.
You and I will have to agree to disagree on that point.
Looking at it cynically, I can't see much difference between the Orange Bomber and Her Thighness. But out of a thousand possible issues, he might do the right thing in two or three things out of a thousand, while I am utterly convinced that she would do the wrong thing in all cases.
I wish the GOP electorate hadn't fallen for his snake-oil sales pitch, but they did.
(Frankly, this is one reason why I am glad to live in Maryland...my vote in the general election will make no difference at all. If I lived in a swing state, I would have an actual dilemma)
hitlery is a gross bumbler, but she knows that to play baseball, one needs a bat and a ball, not a hockey puck.
The problem with your reasoning, mark, is the "binariness" you superimpose on issues, that there might be a single right way to treat an issue, and a single wrong way. Thus, hitlery will get everything wrong, but stumpy might get something right. But the possibility exists that hitlery will get everything wrong, but that stumpy might get something wronger.
This is exemplified in its instinct to try to "renegotiate" some of the national debt. The stupidity and ignorance of this "idea" is unmatched. It fails to understand that within the context of US debt, for an American president to suggest renegotiations is the equivalent of default. Because the US has paid every cent of its debt in a timely manner pretty much since 1790, the US recieves the lowest interest rates available and has the most neogitiable, liquid debt. The reason why folks would refuse to renegotiate the US debt they hold is because they can go to the financial markets on any given day and trade the debt they hold for ready cash. The only way that market disappears is if traders suddenly feel as if the value of their holdings became impaired, which the suggestion of renegotiation by an American president could easily do. The increase in interest rates demanded by investors in new US debt would bring about financial collapse that much sooner if it were not preceded by the earthquake of financial Armageddon brought on by such a default.
hitlery is a gross bumbler, but she knows that to play baseball, one needs a bat and a ball, not a hockey puck. stumpy doesn't seem as well-informed.
As I said, you and I will have to agree to disagree.
I respect your position, but unless Bernie Sanders decides to pursue a third-party run, I see this as a binary set of alternatives. p=not(q). If Sanders decides to run in the generals as a Green (or other party), I will gladly join you and support any reasonable conservative alternative to The Donald. We would, at that point, have a reasonable four-party race. In that situation, somebody else could possibly win.
The trouble is, for me, I have worked with too many people who have had actual face-to-face dealings with Cankles over the years. She is unbalanced and highly dangerous. Not just the normal politician level of evil. Dangerous evil. As a result, I am firmly a #neverhillary person. And that won't change.
As I said, you and I will have to agree to disagree.
I respect your position, but unless Bernie Sanders decides to pursue a third-party run, I see this as a binary set of alternatives. p=not(q). If Sanders decides to run in the generals as a Green (or other party), I will gladly join you and support any reasonable conservative alternative to The Donald. We would, at that point, have a reasonable four-party race. In that situation, somebody else could possibly win.
The trouble is, for me, I have worked with too many people who have had actual face-to-face dealings with Cankles over the years. She is unbalanced and highly dangerous. Not just the normal politician level of evil. Dangerous evil. As a result, I am firmly a #neverhillary person. And that won't change.
Hillary would be a bad president. We've had bad presidents before. But we've never had a crazy president before. Trump would be the first.
It is ironic that underneath my statement that "hitlery is a gross bumbler," You place an upbeat, cheery, even celebratory picture of the hag.
The problem is, Trump is even more mentally unstable. Witness his off-the-cuff remarks about nuclear weaponizing Japan and South Korea and his insane idea to attempt a dialogue with Kim Jung-Un. Trump is stupid, and he doesn't know he's stupid. He thinks he's smart about things he knows nothing about. I'm betting he STILL couldn't tell you what the nuclear triad is.
Trump is dangerous in a very personal way. Witness how he treats those who don't do him homage (i.e., Susana Martinez).
Hillary would be a bad president. We've had bad presidents before. But we've never had a crazy president before. Trump would be the first.
I worked, briefly, in the clinton White House. hitlery is bat shit crazy, and a bumbler. stumpy is bat shit crazier, and, as sinkspur says, is too stupid to know what he doesn't know. The only thing where stumpy excels hitlery is in the ability to deceive. hitlery is a pathological, serial liar, but she is not a very good deceiver. She is transparent, and most people see right through her. But stumpy actually deceives and excites a critical minority (for now) of people of which hitlery could only dream.
Yeah. Noticed that. I bet that tweet ruined Trump's holiday.
Ever notice almost 95% of anyone who does not agree with Orange turd is deemed a "loser"
Do the Trumpets really want the mentality of a high school punk running this country?
It is ironic that underneath my statement that "hitlery is a gross bumbler," You place an upbeat, cheery, even celebratory picture of the hag.
The principal thing that concerns me about Trump, @sitetest , is the slavish devotion of his cult followers. You do have a point there.Your post seems to suggest that, underneath it all, at least stumpy has a vague idea what he's doing. He's a confessed man, but he basically knows he's saying stuff just to whip up his crowds.
I see him as a snake-oil salesman. There is a difference between being a snake-oil salesman and insane.
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Oh, yeah! Looks like us #Nevertrump may have some for which to vote other than warmed-over Libertarians, and the dregs of the Constitution Party.
stumpy's election would be the end of the Republic.Actually, the end of the Republic happened November 6, 2012...the day that the people decided that "more free stuff" was worth more than their freedom. (I say 2012 rather than 2008 as people could be given a break the first time with the hopey-changey stuff)
Actually, the end of the Republic happened November 6, 2012...the day that the people decided that "more free stuff" was worth more than their freedom. (I say 2012 rather than 2008 as people could be given a break the first time with the hopey-changey stuff)
No break needed. The mere fact that they bought the hopeandchange was the end of the Republic.Point taken. But I was trying to be charitable.
a country is it's people. It's people chose liberalism, then went on to nominate a hard leftist to the GOP to 'fix' things in 12, thus showing the end was already past.
Thirty minutes ago. What to make of it?
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Hope it's not another....
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All I can say is that any Kristol-supported third party candidate better be able to win some electoral college votes and simultaneously not allow other states to flip. If not, then this third party candidate will toss the election to Her Thighness. And that might actually be Kristol's goal.
Remember back in March (http://www.newsmax.com/Newsfront/bill-kristol-donald-trump-president-weekly-standard/2016/03/02/id/717115/):
I am very, very suspicious of anything he does.
Considering the two candidates, Hillary is less damaging to conservatism (and American ethos) than Trump. The wholesale round up of millions within a country has only been seen twice in recent history. Both countries faired poorly afterwards.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Wetback Other than the disparaging term used which I'd disagree with, I thought we did okay in the '60s and '70s.
That 'operation' didn't amount to the millions.
The Obama administration deported a record 438,421 unauthorized immigrants in fiscal year 2013, continuing a streak of stepped up enforcement that has resulted in more than 2 million deportations since Obama took office, newly released Department of Homeland Security data show.
http://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2014/10/02/u-s-deportations-of-immigrants-reach-record-high-in-2013/
Eisenhower did not deport 13 million Mexicans. Only one-tenth that number was ever claimed by the federal officials in charge of "Operation Wetback," and even that figure is criticized as inflated by guesswork. Officially, just over 2.1 million were recorded as having been deported or having departed under threat of deportation.
http://www.factcheck.org/2010/07/hoover-truman-ike-mass-deporters/
The wholesale round up of millions within a country has only been seen twice in recent history.
No break needed. The mere fact that they bought the hopeandchange was the end of the Republic.
a country is it's people. It's people chose liberalism, then went on to nominate a hard leftist to the GOP to 'fix' things in 12, thus showing the end was already past.
I disagree with both you and mark.
At least, up through the possible election of stumpy, statism would at least the token resistance of a major political party.
Before the takeover of the Republican Party by the stump yikes, there was at least the potential of a conservative renaissance.
As we conservatives are slowly banished from the party of Lincoln, the dictatorship pioneered by the kenyan anti-christ will be cemented by the great deceiver, and the Republican Party hierarchy will hold its coat.
I fear that after trump, the the Republican habits will be completely extinguished from any significant part of the electorate, no less close to a majority.
As long as you're all good with President Clinton '45. Because that's what this will mean at the end of the day.
Suggestion: Don't go to other forums to read what hard-core Trumpkins have to say about anything. Don't read their comments on Ted Cruz topics. If you ignore them, you can come to grips with the idea that President Trump will be truly amusing and the death of PC. Come to grips that his slate of potential Supreme Court picks actually looks pretty solid.
In other words, bury the hurt feelings and ignore the fact that a sizable % of Trump people are just plain jerks. Then vote to defeat Hillary.
It is not only about hurt feelings. Trump is unfit to serve as President. He is emotionally and ethically unstable, an abuse of power waiting to happen. Hillary will be bad, but at least the Dems get the blame for her. It would be entirely irresponsible to give Vicious, Vindictive Trump that kind of power. Amusing? No. More like frightening.
Considering the two candidates, Hillary is less damaging to conservatism (and American ethos) than Trump. The wholesale round up of millions within a country has only been seen twice in recent history. Both countries faired poorly afterwards.
He's a confessed man, but he basically knows he's saying stuff just to whip up his crowds.
I'd like to think so, but I don't think he believes his own crap sandwich. Otherwise, there are certain things he wouldn't say.
It doesn't know what it doesn't know. It is an orangutan or maybe, a baboon. But a great deceiver. Perhaps The Great Deciever.
You have to remember that Trump is really and truly a narcissist, 'in the personality disorder sense'.....I didn't think he was more than a
typical narcissist of his type in the beginning, but it's been long we've been hearing and seeing him now so I have no problem saying
he is "disordered" because he's not just a narcissist.
Trump's 'ignorance' is a manifestation of his narcissism... he hasn't hardly bothered to educate himself about outside issues because,
to him, everything he says is automatically true.... Why learn about something that you 'believe' you've already mastered?.....Then he
he's told why what he's saying can't work or isn't true so he shifts...... And that is why Trump is going to have serious issues and it will
prove to be Trumps great weakness... people who claim to have expertise he has to depend on will become the enemy because they
will provide information that makes him look like a fool... Paranoia goes naturally with this disorder so for Trump, who already has
issues with "germs" and that of trust is going to get played big time by those who know he doesn't know what he's talking about.
Trump knows what he's told he should know now....and not by people who give a rats fanny if he wins or looses or both.
You don't save a country by electing more idiots to run it. People chose to empower one such idiot this election as they chose to empower another last election. The destruction of America is 100%on their shoulders. Not those of us that stood on the principles America was built on.
Question???? If he gets the election because people won't vote for Hillary, but who don't really want to vote for Trump either as they see him as just as bad, ....how long would it take to impeach him if he screws up badly in his first weeks or months????
I ask this because that option is floating around out there.....vote him in and then impeach him out...which then makes his VP all the
more significant.
Frankly Trump will not possibly be running things if he wins......he'll be the "face" and that's about it. The guy is one deranged individual
that cannot function as President.....and that's just a fact. So whoever he is aligned with will ake a YUGE difference.
If Hillary were smart, she would demand to debate Trump every week, beginning the first week in September, right up until the election.
She would expose him as the ignoramus he truly is. And he would no doubt spend plenty of time insulting and trashing her personally for showing him up.
Trump will no more be impeached by the lesser evils than Barry was. He;ll mock them for it on TV and they will cower just like when admitted Dems mock EDIT: THEM on TV.
Hoping for impeachment is another way of ensuring his election while lying to ourselves that, sing it with me folks...
WE'LL HOLD HIS FEET TO THE FIRE!
No 'we' won't. 'WE' never do.
I don't see where potential existed at all. You can MEASURABLY chart the increasing lurch to the left in each election since Reagan left. Thats across the board. Candidates, politicians, policies, voting, online commentary, news commentary...all of it.We weren't that far from nominating a conservative this year. That may have begun a reversal of the trend. But after four or eight years of the dictator stumpy, those of us with conservative impulses will have been purged fairly thoroughly from the Republican Party.
A Renaissance cannot/could not happen under those conditions when the voters themselves are fueling the leftism with their voting. Couldn't then, certainly can't now. Such is the result of lesser evil/pragmatism that some of us screamed from the rooftops about for years now.
Brilliantly stated. If you support Trump now, you own everything he says and does from this day forward. Every slur, every insult, every lie, every self-serving comment.This ^^^
Dignity is the shorthand we use to determine civilized behavior. Trump has NO dignity.
Welp, Cruz could pull Texas, Romney could pull Utah, Kasich could pull Ohio, for example. Long shots, but it could happen. Depends on how strong or weak Hillary's support is.
Brilliantly stated. If you support Trump now, you own everything he says and does from this day forward. Every slur, every insult, every lie, every self-serving comment.Ergo, stumpy is an uncivilized barbarian. He belongs in ISIS.
Dignity is the shorthand we use to determine civilized behavior. Trump has NO dignity.
We weren't that far from nominating a conservative this year. That may have begun a reversal of the trend. But after four or eight years of the dictator stumpy, those of us with conservative impulses will have been purged fairly thoroughly from the Republican Party.
It is not only about hurt feelings. Trump is unfit to serve as President. He is emotionally and ethically unstable, an abuse of power waiting to happen. Hillary will be bad, but at least the Dems get the blame for her. It would be entirely irresponsible to give Vicious, Vindictive Trump that kind of power. Amusing? No. More like frightening.Vicious, Vindictive - two words that apply to Hillary in spades. And that vicious and vindictive nature will be aimed squarely at YOU and ME if she wins. And even one more loss on the SCOTUS means we're in a "no turning back" situation.
Vicious, Vindictive - two words that apply to Hillary in spades. And that vicious and vindictive nature will be aimed squarely at YOU and ME if she wins. And even one more loss on the SCOTUS means we're in a "no turning back" situation.
I understand your point but we weren't anywhere near close enough. Look how easily all those chest beating 'patriots' just said 'oh well! and merruly jumped aboard the first cattle car on the train. It was no sweat off their back. They have all the steadfastness as a sheet of a wet kleenex.The fact that so many rolled over so easily derives from your very next point, that people are unaware that it's over. They say, "Wait till 2020! We'll nominate a conservative for sure!"
Personally my opinion is we were purged 10 years ago. We just refused to accept that until a lot more recently. Some still have not and think they can fix' the party. I am convinced that Rinsed Penis, Mitch and the rest sit there saying to each other 'WTF do we gotta do to get rid of these people?"
The fact that so many rolled over so easily derives from your very next point, that people are unaware that it's over. They say, "Wait till 2020! We'll nominate a conservative for sure!"
But with the nomination of stumpy, the Republican ethos is being stomped out, and those of us who said, "We'll get a conservative in 2020. This time, though, we'll vote for stumpy to deny hitlery" are going to find that there are nearly no conservatives left to vote for a conservative.
I have said every election for the last several..."Next time you'll say exactly the same thing" to those spouting the 'next year nonsense. And every year they reply the same way. "This time is different!" When esked what makes them think next time will be different than this time, they accuse me of hating America and loving...Kerry, Pelosi, George Soros, Reid, Obama, Hillary, Terry McCallufe...pick any one or all at random.In recent years, we haven't had many candidates who were even arguably conservative. But this year, there were a few halfway-decent picks.
They have always been moderates at best/liberals by vote. They have had many chances to nominate and elect conservatives and instead they torpedo whatever conservative is running and elect/try to elect a liberal to 'win'
They try to WIN with known liberals. They WANT to WIN with known liberals.
And they have the gall to lie to everyone's face saying "DONTYOUDAREQUESTIONMYCONSERVAATISM!!!!!!!
Frauds. Lying POS frauds.
In recent years, we haven't had many candidates who were even arguably conservative. But this year, there were a few halfway-decent picks.
So, it's difficult to criticize the selection of Romney when the alternative is Huckabee. Or even Santorum (for whom I voted, but whose star, nonetheless, was fading even before the primaries started).
But an actual r e al, live conservative made a competitive run for it this year. I'm just saying, if stumpy I should elected, the party will not come close to nominating a conservative for a very long time to come as dictatorship takes hold, and republican virtues increasingly disappear.
But we've gone round and round the Bush administration bunch of times. Suffice to say that neither of us is particularly optimistic of a future under stumpy, the single most unfit human ever to run for president.
" it's difficult to criticize the selection of Romney when the alternative is..."Even if you say Romney is worse, there were no conservative stand-outs as we had this year. This year was actually different. And an actual conservative ran strong. If stumpy wins, by 2020, the suffocating hand of stumpyism will snuff out any significant republican tendencies left in the party.
There is no scenario in the past 5 years I have yet encountered that can finish that sentence. There is no possible scenario anywhere in which a guy that profits by incinerating the dead babies his own laws as governor helped to 'get dead' in the first place, should be given leadership of America.
None.
Even if you say Romney is worse, there were no conservative stand-outs as we had this year. This year was actually different. And an actual conservative ran strong. If stumpy wins, by 2020, the suffocating hand of stumpyism will snuff out any significant republican tendencies left in the party.