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Title: Flake to halt judicial nominees until Mueller protection bill passed
Post by: RetBobbyMI on November 14, 2018, 10:45:20 pm
Flake to halt judicial nominees until Mueller protection bill passed
The Washington Times | November 14, 2018 | Stephen Dinan

Sen. Jeff Flake announced Wednesday that he will not vote to advance any new judicial nominees through the Judiciary Committee, nor will he vote to confirm picks on the Senate floor, until he gets his way on unrelated legislation to prevent the firing of special counsel Robert Mueller.

Mr. Flake made the announcement on the Senate floor minutes after his bid to pass the bill failed.

His threat could block the committee from approving any more judges this year, since the GOP only holds a one-seat majority on the panel.

It’s less catastrophic to approving judges on the Senate floor, where the GOP holds 51 seats. Even losing Mr. Flake, Republicans could still approve judges on a 50-50 vote with Vice President Mike Pence breaking the tie.

(Excerpt) More at https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2018/nov/14/jeff-flake-halt-judicial-nominees-until-robert-mue/ (https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2018/nov/14/jeff-flake-halt-judicial-nominees-until-robert-mue/)
Title: Re: Flake to halt judicial nominees until Mueller protection bill passed
Post by: RetBobbyMI on November 14, 2018, 10:45:56 pm
Can't McConnell replace him on the committee?
Title: Re: Flake to halt judicial nominees until Mueller protection bill passed
Post by: bilo on November 14, 2018, 10:50:20 pm
Can't McConnell replace him on the committee?

Let's see what the Pubs do about this retiring piece of garbage.
Title: Re: Flake to halt judicial nominees until Mueller protection bill passed
Post by: skeeter on November 14, 2018, 10:52:28 pm
Now he's just being an a**hole.
Title: Re: Flake to halt judicial nominees until Mueller protection bill passed
Post by: Wingnut on November 14, 2018, 11:00:30 pm
He is doing his best Dead McCain impression.   
Title: Re: Flake to halt judicial nominees until Mueller protection bill passed
Post by: Formerly Once-Ler on November 14, 2018, 11:04:57 pm
https://twitter.com/TeaPainUSA/status/1062836533286391810
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Tea Pain @TeaPainUSA
31 minutes ago

Lucy tees up the football again.  Charlie Brown's eyes widen.

I'm gonna miss Flake. 8888crybaby
Title: Re: Flake to halt judicial nominees until Mueller protection bill passed
Post by: Cyber Liberty on November 14, 2018, 11:21:31 pm
McConnell can move the nominations directly to the floor vote, so screw you, Traitor Flake.
Title: Re: Flake to halt judicial nominees until Mueller protection bill passed
Post by: Frank Cannon on November 14, 2018, 11:24:16 pm
https://twitter.com/TeaPainUSA/status/1062836533286391810
I'm gonna miss Flake. 8888crybaby

Yeah. Big surprise you are posting Resistance faggotry on the board.
Title: Re: Flake to halt judicial nominees until Mueller protection bill passed
Post by: endicom on November 14, 2018, 11:24:40 pm
McConnell can move the nominations directly to the floor vote, so screw you, Traitor Flake.


I hope you're right and I hope he does.

Title: Re: Flake to halt judicial nominees until Mueller protection bill passed
Post by: 240B on November 14, 2018, 11:30:59 pm
Who ever heard of the Senate passing legislation to "protect" a prosecutor? It's an absurd notion on its face. And coming from an erzat 'Republican' against a Republican President makes it even more absurd.

All Flake is doing is to prove that the whole Mueller clown show is not about any kind of justice or investigation. Rather it is obviously a purely political 'hit job' on Trump and anyone around him. I mean seriously, what dog does Flake have in the Mueller probe? Why is he so passionate about it? Is he stupid enough to really believe that the Russians elected Trump? Then why after two years is there no evidence?

Flake doesn't give a damn about Russia. He just doesn't want to take any pressure off of Trump from any direction. If Mueller is hindering and interfering with Trump's ability to do his job, then Flake, like all Democrats, wants Mueller to be installed permanently as a permanent prosecutor of Trump, forever, regardless of any results.
Title: Re: Flake to halt judicial nominees until Mueller protection bill passed
Post by: Formerly Once-Ler on November 14, 2018, 11:32:36 pm
Yeah. Big surprise you are posting Resistance faggotry on the board.

You sound curious @Frank Cannon
Title: Re: Flake to halt judicial nominees until Mueller protection bill passed
Post by: InHeavenThereIsNoBeer on November 14, 2018, 11:35:25 pm
Mr. Flake and Sen. Chris Coons tried to get the Senate to pass a bill that would have prevented Mr. Mueller from being fired without good cause.

And how exactly is that going to work?

Even if Trump didn't veto it, how would Congress have the authority?

Title: Re: Flake to halt judicial nominees until Mueller protection bill passed
Post by: Right_in_Virginia on November 14, 2018, 11:38:25 pm
https://twitter.com/TeaPainUSA/status/1062836533286391810
I'm gonna miss Flake. 8888crybaby

Calm down.  You'll always have Romney.
Title: Re: Flake to halt judicial nominees until Mueller protection bill passed
Post by: Frank Cannon on November 14, 2018, 11:40:42 pm
Calm down.  You'll always have Romney.

Romney is a Right Wing nutjob to that poster.
Title: Re: Flake to halt judicial nominees until Mueller protection bill passed
Post by: Right_in_Virginia on November 14, 2018, 11:40:56 pm
Speaking of Romney ... pay attention to Flake's move here McConnell and appoint Romney to Committees dealing with trash removal and latrine renovations .... only, or deal with this shit for six more years.
Title: Re: Flake to halt judicial nominees until Mueller protection bill passed
Post by: Formerly Once-Ler on November 14, 2018, 11:41:47 pm
Calm down.  You'll always have Romney.
Thanx @Right_in_Virginia  happy77 There is always a silver lining in the dark cloud.
Title: Re: Flake to halt judicial nominees until Mueller protection bill passed
Post by: Right_in_Virginia on November 14, 2018, 11:42:22 pm
Can't McConnell replace him on the committee?

That would be a well deserved biotch slap across the face on his way out.  I'd love to see this, just for the joy factor.
Title: Re: Flake to halt judicial nominees until Mueller protection bill passed
Post by: jmyrlefuller on November 14, 2018, 11:43:10 pm
I'm gonna miss Flake. 8888crybaby
Sinema will be all he was, and better looking.
Title: Re: Flake to halt judicial nominees until Mueller protection bill passed
Post by: Formerly Once-Ler on November 14, 2018, 11:51:10 pm
McConnell can move the nominations directly to the floor vote, so screw you, Traitor Flake.

I don't think McConnell can do that.  Otherwise why have a Senate Committee on the Judiciary at all?
Title: Re: Flake to halt judicial nominees until Mueller protection bill passed
Post by: skeeter on November 14, 2018, 11:53:32 pm
Sinema will be all he was, and better looking.

Although it won't be as much fun for the media getting 'rat quotes from a 'rat as it was getting 'rat quotes from a RINO.
Title: Re: Flake to halt judicial nominees until Mueller protection bill passed
Post by: sneakypete on November 15, 2018, 12:59:34 am
Who ever heard of the Senate passing legislation to "protect" a prosecutor? It's an absurd notion on its face. And coming from an erzat 'Republican' against a Republican President makes it even more absurd.

All Flake is doing is to prove that the whole Mueller clown show is not about any kind of justice or investigation. Rather it is obviously a purely political 'hit job' on Trump and anyone around him. I mean seriously, what dog does Flake have in the Mueller probe? Why is he so passionate about it? Is he stupid enough to really believe that the Russians elected Trump? Then why after two years is there no evidence?

Flake doesn't give a damn about Russia. He just doesn't want to take any pressure off of Trump from any direction. If Mueller is hindering and interfering with Trump's ability to do his job, then Flake, like all Democrats, wants Mueller to be installed permanently as a permanent prosecutor of Trump, forever, regardless of any results.

@240B

The answers to all these questions and more will be obvious once he is out of office,and we see which network hired him and gives him his own show.
Title: Re: Flake to halt judicial nominees until Mueller protection bill passed
Post by: RetBobbyMI on November 15, 2018, 01:15:35 am
I don't think McConnell can do that.  Otherwise why have a Senate Committee on the Judiciary at all?
I believe the Majority Leader makes committee assignments.
Title: Re: Flake to halt judicial nominees until Mueller protection bill passed
Post by: Formerly Once-Ler on November 15, 2018, 02:36:47 am
I believe the Majority Leader makes committee assignments.
I don't think he approves judicial nominees on his own.  If he could Harry Reid would have done it already like nuking the Senate.  If I'm wrong it wouldn't be the first time, but until I hear Cocaine Mitch say he can bypass the committee I'm not going to believe it.
Title: Re: Flake to halt judicial nominees until Mueller protection bill passed
Post by: InHeavenThereIsNoBeer on November 15, 2018, 03:26:54 am
I don't think he approves judicial nominees on his own.  If he could Harry Reid would have done it already like nuking the Senate.  If I'm wrong it wouldn't be the first time, but until I hear Cocaine Mitch say he can bypass the committee I'm not going to believe it.

I remember talk about that during the Kavanaugh "process".

This is the best I could find:

The GOP's narrow 51-seat majority in the Senate makes the votes of Corker, Flake and other moderate Republican senators crucial in Kavanaugh's final confirmation, which requires 50 votes. The Senate could bypass the committee and bring the nomination directly to the floor for a vote.

https://www.tennessean.com/story/news/politics/2018/09/17/corker-senate-committee-should-delay-vote-kavanaugh/1334019002/ (https://www.tennessean.com/story/news/politics/2018/09/17/corker-senate-committee-should-delay-vote-kavanaugh/1334019002/)
Title: Re: Flake to halt judicial nominees until Mueller protection bill passed
Post by: Formerly Once-Ler on November 15, 2018, 03:43:11 am
I remember talk about that during the Kavanaugh "process".

This is the best I could find:

The GOP's narrow 51-seat majority in the Senate makes the votes of Corker, Flake and other moderate Republican senators crucial in Kavanaugh's final confirmation, which requires 50 votes. The Senate could bypass the committee and bring the nomination directly to the floor for a vote.

https://www.tennessean.com/story/news/politics/2018/09/17/corker-senate-committee-should-delay-vote-kavanaugh/1334019002/ (https://www.tennessean.com/story/news/politics/2018/09/17/corker-senate-committee-should-delay-vote-kavanaugh/1334019002/)
@InHeavenThereIsNoBeer
Thanks for the post and the link.  Fake News?!?  Why do we bother with a committee then?  It doesn't make sense to me.  Why didn't Reid do it?

It maybe that the GOP doesn't have the balls to confirm without the public protection of the committee...I dunno.  Can't wait to find out.
Title: Re: Flake to halt judicial nominees until Mueller protection bill passed
Post by: RetBobbyMI on November 15, 2018, 03:55:16 am
I don't think he approves judicial nominees on his own.  If he could Harry Reid would have done it already like nuking the Senate.  If I'm wrong it wouldn't be the first time, but until I hear Cocaine Mitch say he can bypass the committee I'm not going to believe it.
Missed point, that being the Leader should swap him out of that committee assignment and replace him with sone not so obstinate.
Title: Re: Flake to halt judicial nominees until Mueller protection bill passed
Post by: Formerly Once-Ler on November 15, 2018, 03:58:52 am
Missed point, that being the Leader should swap him out of that committee assignment and replace him with sone not so obstinate.

I gotcha now.  Interesting point.

Gotta wonder why Flake, not a team player, and who quit hasn't already been removed from committees? 
Title: Re: Flake to halt judicial nominees until Mueller protection bill passed
Post by: InHeavenThereIsNoBeer on November 15, 2018, 04:40:24 am
@InHeavenThereIsNoBeer
Thanks for the post and the link.  Fake News?!?  Why do we bother with a committee then?  It doesn't make sense to me.  Why didn't Reid do it?

It maybe that the GOP doesn't have the balls to confirm without the public protection of the committee...I dunno.  Can't wait to find out.

I don't think it's fake.  I remember it being discussed as a possibility.  I want to say it was either Mcconnell or Grassley that brought it up, and maybe one of the wonder ditzes saying they wouldn't support unless, but those memories I'm not really confident of.

I did find plenty of articles about rules for bypassing committees in general, and a couple over overtly biased ones claiming the Republicans had made it standard practice.

My guess, and that's all it is, is that Reid would never need to, since Dems tend to vote in lock step, while Reps let RINOs on important committees. 
Title: Re: Flake to halt judicial nominees until Mueller protection bill passed
Post by: Formerly Once-Ler on November 15, 2018, 08:04:32 am
! No longer available (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NuEk5QWg1FU#)

Give Trump a kick in the butt for me too Jeff.   happy77
Title: Re: Flake to halt judicial nominees until Mueller protection bill passed
Post by: 240B on November 15, 2018, 11:19:21 am
(https://i.imgur.com/YI0p3lB.jpg)
Title: Re: Flake to halt judicial nominees until Mueller protection bill passed
Post by: jmyrlefuller on November 15, 2018, 01:06:30 pm
(https://i.imgur.com/YI0p3lB.jpg)
Money (much of which he was born with) and power != Intelligence
Title: Re: Flake to halt judicial nominees until Mueller protection bill passed
Post by: Oceander on November 15, 2018, 01:07:39 pm
(https://i.imgur.com/YI0p3lB.jpg)

Yeah, but for daddy’s money.
Title: Re: Flake to halt judicial nominees until Mueller protection bill passed
Post by: Right_in_Virginia on November 15, 2018, 01:14:37 pm
Stunning.  Democrats are stealing midterm election wins out from under 'us" .... and bashing the President is still the sport of choice for so many around here.

Still think they're not on the Democrats' side?
Title: Re: Flake to halt judicial nominees until Mueller protection bill passed
Post by: 240B on November 15, 2018, 01:48:55 pm
Yeah, but for daddy’s money.
Ok. I get it. Sooo....daddy's money got him elected? The same money that he grew over time. Turned 10 million into 10 billion. Beat out Hillary? With 100% of the media (in all forms) bashing him 24/7? Yea. I see your point. The guy must be a fool. Why didn't I see that before?

We all know that broke ass keyboard warriors are the real brains in America.
Title: Re: Flake to halt judicial nominees until Mueller protection bill passed
Post by: Jazzhead on November 15, 2018, 01:55:28 pm
Stunning.  Democrats are stealing midterm election wins out from under 'us" .... and bashing the President is still the sport of choice for so many around here.

Still think they're not on the Democrats' side?

Seems to me most of the folks on this thread are bashing Jeff Flake.   
Title: Re: Flake to halt judicial nominees until Mueller protection bill passed
Post by: Sanguine on November 15, 2018, 02:02:43 pm
That would be a well deserved biotch slap across the face on his way out.  I'd love to see this, just for the joy factor.

Yeah, I would too.
Title: Re: Flake to halt judicial nominees until Mueller protection bill passed
Post by: Suppressed on November 15, 2018, 02:17:15 pm
(https://i.imgur.com/YI0p3lB.jpg)


If you think you're so much smarter than Trump's critics, always remember that they aren't ignorant; they know about Thales of Miletus (https://leightonvw.com/2013/04/01/how-an-ancient-greek-philosopher-bet-on-the-future-and-won/).

Paris Hilton and Donald Trump might both have money, but I'd put my intelligence up against theirs any day.
Title: Re: Flake to halt judicial nominees until Mueller protection bill passed
Post by: Wingnut on November 15, 2018, 02:22:26 pm
Seems to me most of the folks on this thread are bashing Jeff Flake.

I would sure hope so.  Flake is so messed up with his Trump hate he's lost his marbles.
Title: Re: Flake to halt judicial nominees until Mueller protection bill passed
Post by: Sanguine on November 15, 2018, 02:24:54 pm

If you think you're so much smarter than Trump's critics, always remember that they aren't ignorant; they know about Thales of Miletus.

Geometry?
Title: Re: Flake to halt judicial nominees until Mueller protection bill passed
Post by: Suppressed on November 15, 2018, 02:33:39 pm
Geometry?

Yes, but the relevant story is his response to the same stupid argument as that meme:

https://leightonvw.com/2013/04/01/how-an-ancient-greek-philosopher-bet-on-the-future-and-won/
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According to Aristotle’s account, Thales put a deposit during the winter on all the olive-presses in Chios and Miletus, which would allow him exclusive use of the presses after the harvest. Because the harvest was in the future, and nobody could be sure whether the harvest would be plentiful or not, he was able to secure the contracts for a very low price. In fact, we are informed that there was not one bid against him. From the olive press owners’ point of view, they were protecting themselves against a poor harvest by earning at least some money up front regardless of how things turned out.

Thales’ bet came off, big time. The harvest was excellent and there was heavy demand for the presses. Thales held the monopoly and was able to rent them out at a huge profit. Either he was an expert forecaster or he had calculated that a bad harvest would not lose him much in terms of lost deposits, whereas the upside of a good harvest was enormous. “Thus he showed the world that philosophers can easily be rich if they like, but that their ambition is of another sort”, wrote Aristotle.
Title: Re: Flake to halt judicial nominees until Mueller protection bill passed
Post by: skeeter on November 15, 2018, 02:37:03 pm
I would sure hope so.  Flake is so messed up with his Trump hate he's lost his marbles.

This one instance is a pretty clear case of one thing being good for the country and the other being corrosive.

So its likewise clear in general who's opinion here is worth considering and who's to flush.
Title: Re: Flake to halt judicial nominees until Mueller protection bill passed
Post by: Sanguine on November 15, 2018, 02:39:39 pm
Yes, but the relevant story is his response to the same stupid argument as that meme:

https://leightonvw.com/2013/04/01/how-an-ancient-greek-philosopher-bet-on-the-future-and-won/

Whew!  That was a circuitous route.
Title: Re: Flake to halt judicial nominees until Mueller protection bill passed
Post by: Oceander on November 16, 2018, 12:27:29 am
Ok. I get it. Sooo....daddy's money got him elected? The same money that he grew over time. Turned 10 million into 10 billion. Beat out Hillary? With 100% of the media (in all forms) bashing him 24/7? Yea. I see your point. The guy must be a fool. Why didn't I see that before?

We all know that broke ass keyboard warriors are the real brains in America.

No.  Daddy’s money is what made him rich.  Everything he’s tried for himself that didn’t involve leveraging off of what daddy did for him he’s failed at.  The only exception to that is celebrity; at that, he excels like a kardashian.  Airlines?  Failure.  Wine?  Failure.  For-profit schools?  Failure.  Real estate development?  Several spectacular failures.  (Where do you think that $900 million loss carryforward on his returns was from?)

The fact is, if he’d taken daddy’s money and put it in an index fund he’d be richer than he is now.