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General Category => Economy/Business => Topic started by: mystery-ak on May 09, 2020, 05:33:31 pm
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History-defining question: Will 18 million ‘temporary’ jobless get their jobs back?
by Cassidy Morrison
| May 09, 2020 12:00 AM
The Trump administration and the country face a major risk that if the pandemic is not controlled relatively quickly, another economic depression is in store.
The country already is clearly in a form of recession, as confirmed by Friday’s April jobs report that showed unemployment rising to 14.7%.
But in theory, many of those workers, such as the 5.5 million newly jobless restaurant employees, could return to work very quickly if the pandemic ended and lockdowns were lifted.
The vast majority of job losers in April, 18 million of 20.6 million, according to the household survey from the Bureau of Labor Statistics, are on temporary layoff.
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https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/history-defining-question-will-18-million-temporary-jobless-get-their-jobs-back (https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/history-defining-question-will-18-million-temporary-jobless-get-their-jobs-back)
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Not a chance they will have the same job. Would you expect the number of social coordinators on a cruise line still be needed?
Everyone will get a job back, but not necessarily the job they last had.
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"History-defining question: Will 18 million ‘temporary’ jobless get their jobs back?"
Not before November 3rd. Not a chance.
How will THAT "define" history...?
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My bet is no. Not all small businesses were able to get their hands on the loans that were meant to keep their businesses alive, employees paid and to be able to eventually reopen. Speaking from what I'm seeing so far in FL; yes, certain non-essential businesses have re-opened, but with social distancing, they are conducting business at 25% capacity. Certainly you can't put everyone back to work with limit on capacity. So businesses are still losing money and they don't have a choice but to make cuts long term or permanent.
Many states are still shutdown and haven't even entered Phase I of reopening so some businesses will permanently have to close; and the "temporary" jobless will have to find other jobs that probably won't exist for awhile.
Then there is always the possibility that we will see a second wave of this virus and no doubt we are going to see deaths rise -- whether or not states will shut down businesses again, it's hard to tell. My guess, is no, but people will be afraid to venture out having yet again another negative impact on businesses and people who went back to work, will end up losing their jobs permanently in the long run.
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There is no way they'll all "Get their jobs back." Many will, while others will need to find or create new ones.
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There is no way they'll all "Get their jobs back." Many will, while others will need to find or create new ones.
I think, first off, that the entire effect of the oil price crash hasn't been factored into this as a causative agent in the current joblessness picture. I'd love to be making what I was in Feb., but by April, that ship had already sailed, and COVID-19 didn't have diddley to do with that. That was the Russian/Saudi tiff and lifting of their production caps that brought oil from the $50s to the $20s, and that remodeled the CAPEX plans of not only the Oil Company I was doing consulting work for, but the rest as well. What would have been a 60% CAPEX increase turned into slashed drilling budgets and rigs going down like trees at Tunguska.
Then, to add icing to that cake, the COVID-19 impact compounded the problem that already existed. But because it only compounded an existing problem, removing the effects of the shutdown and surplus oil in the system will take time, so, nope, I'm not expecting to go back to work in that function for some time. Similarly, people who had jobs which are related to the oil patch or dependent on oil activity will not be getting some of their jobs back, welders, truckers, and a host of other service industries associated with drilling will not be reemployed unless and until activity picks up. Then there are the service industries which serve the service industry. Hotels, restaurants, RV sales, lease/rental vehicles, man camp staff, and just about every service those nice oilfield checks paid for, won't be recovering near to the health of even 2019.
Eventually, things will sort out, some will go back to what they were doing right away, some will not. By November, we'll be lucky for the economy to gain back 50% of its losses.
Still, showing definite signs of recovery could be a campaign plus even at 20-30%. Watch for the Dems to throw every monkey wrench they can into the works.
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Eventually, things will sort out, some will go back to what they were doing right away, some will not. By November, we'll be lucky for the economy to gain back 50% of its losses.
Still, showing definite signs of recovery could be a campaign plus even at 20-30%. Watch for the Dems to throw every monkey wrench they can into the works.
That's mostly right. I think it would come roaring back if they knocked out the chocks... But that ain't what it's looking like. So if it finally gets knocked loose in July, and it takes a quarter to eat up current oil reserves... It'll be a slow return... Half the summer will already be gone... So there goes the tourist trade too.... Yeah, 20-30% sounds pretty realistic.
Unless folks finally just rebel. That would change everything.
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That's mostly right. I think it would come roaring back if they knocked out the chocks... But that ain't what it's looking like. So if it finally gets knocked loose in July, and it takes a quarter to eat up current oil reserves... It'll be a slow return... Half the summer will already be gone... So there goes the tourist trade too.... Yeah, 20-30% sounds pretty realistic.
Unless folks finally just rebel. That would change everything.
They're starting to rebel right now. One week people were afraid to leave the house, and the next all those unemployed people are showing up in the streets.
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They're starting to rebel right now. One week people were afraid to leave the house, and the next all those unemployed people are showing up in the streets.
Funny how the media is suppressing that news as they can. That should be a top seek for posting here...
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Funny how the media is suppressing that news as they can. That should be a top seek for posting here...
No surprise.
When Dr. Zelenko's video which not only laid out the use of hydroxychloroquine, Zithromax, and Zinc Sulfate, but explained how and why it worked was pulled from YouTube because it "violated their posting guidelines" (wasn't in line with the vaccine seeking Gates funded WHO), we have a problem.
I'm still pissed off that almost every "study" of that regimen left out the zinc. Those patients that didn't make it were murdered because some bleep wanted to play politics.
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No surprise.
When Dr. Zelenko's video which not only laid out the use of hydroxychloroquine, Zithromax, and Zinc Sulfate, but explained how and why it worked was pulled from YouTube because it "violated their posting guidelines" (wasn't in line with the vaccine seeking Gates funded WHO), we have a problem.
I'm still pissed off that almost every "study" of that regimen left out the zinc. Those patients that didn't make it were murdered because some bleep wanted to play politics.
Ain't it something? And that Merzenko/Merchenko chick... Telling on Fauci... Did you see that one before it got torn down?
poof! gone.
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Ain't it something? And that Merzenko/Merchenko chick... Telling on Fauci... Did you see that one before it got torn down?
poof! gone.
Okay, I did see it. I didn't recognize her name and went looking for that.
The web is being scrubbed while people argue over how many angels can dance on the head of a pin.
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@roamer_1 Gone but not forgotten. The offending video can be downloaded with bitchute. Here is the website that has the download link.
https://plandemicmovie.com/
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@roamer_1 Gone but not forgotten. The offending video can be downloaded with bitchute. Here is the website that has the download link.
https://plandemicmovie.com/
Yes, but to give you an idea of who might be mining what where....
This site is protected by reCAPTCHA and the Google Privacy Policy and Terms of Service apply.
I'm getting very leery of Google, lately. Sometimes I feel like the guy in the movie who found the sunglasses...everywhere you look..
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Okay, I did see it. I didn't recognize her name and went looking for that.
The web is being scrubbed while people argue over how many angels can dance on the head of a pin.
Yeah sorry, I couldn't remember the name so well (not a Western name, it don't fit in my mouth) :shrug:
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@roamer_1 Gone but not forgotten. The offending video can be downloaded with bitchute. Here is the website that has the download link.
https://plandemicmovie.com/
Yeah that's it. Ain't that something? How the HECK was that guy running the show? Right in the wheelhouse standing next to Tump.... *****rollingeyes*****
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Yes, but to give you an idea of who might be mining what where....
I'm getting very leery of Google, lately. Sometimes I feel like the guy in the movie who found the sunglasses...everywhere you look..
I downloaded the mp4 from that site last week. I notice that if I attempt it now I get an "Access Forbidden" message, so I guess that door got closed. The download button directs to a server maintained by AWS.
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Yeah that's it. Ain't that something? How the HECK was that guy running the show? Right in the wheelhouse standing next to Tump.... *****rollingeyes*****
AWS has cut off distribution via the link I posted! So...Amazon and Google are in the censor boat together.
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Yes, but to give you an idea of who might be mining what where....
I'm getting very leery of Google, lately. Sometimes I feel like the guy in the movie who found the sunglasses...everywhere you look..
No lie. I have a love.hate thing going on, since my phone s a droid... Ain't no avoiding it...
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AWS has cut off distribution via the link I posted! So...Amazon and Google are in the censor boat together.
Got a Bitchute direct?
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Got a Bitchute direct?
No, but I didn't go looking for one. If the Bitchute is sourced from AWS, then it won't work anyway.
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So what to my wondering eyes should appear...
Image from https://nationalfile.com/faucis-niaid-funded-wuhan-lab-scientists-to-research-bat-coronavirus/ (https://nationalfile.com/faucis-niaid-funded-wuhan-lab-scientists-to-research-bat-coronavirus/)
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No lie. I have a love.hate thing going on, since my phone s a droid... Ain't no avoiding it...
Yeah, I have to keep replying to requests to access my mike and camera. NO!
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Yeah, I have to keep replying to requests to access my mike and camera. NO!
My phone and tablet are full on Google. All of that is tracked to the 9's, and I know it.
Likewise my PCs to a degree... When I have to do somethig wrt google from a PC, I always use Chrome. If it is something to do with Microsoft (technet, etc) I use Edge... I let em have their way. No sense in otherwise... But the lion's share is done from Firefox, and not available to either.
And if I am doing something I ought not, well then that is from a Linux run laptop from a stumbled open network, coffee shop, or hotel parking lot. That machine has nothing to do with me onboard... :whistle: Track that.
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No surprise.
When Dr. Zelenko's video which not only laid out the use of hydroxychloroquine, Zithromax, and Zinc Sulfate, but explained how and why it worked was pulled from YouTube because it "violated their posting guidelines" (wasn't in line with the vaccine seeking Gates funded WHO), we have a problem.
I'm still pissed off that almost every "study" of that regimen left out the zinc. Those patients that didn't make it were murdered because some bleep wanted to play politics.
Zelenko was working with Jerome Corsi. They put that video out specifically to get it taken down and discredit HCQ by making it look like it was being peddled by quacks.
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Zelenko was working with Jerome Corsi. They put that video out specifically to get it taken down and discredit HCQ by making it look like it was being peddled by quacks.
Source, please.
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Source, please.
https://www.businessinsider.com/doj-investigates-doctor-pushing-questionable-coronavirus-treatments-after-accidental-email-2020-5 (https://www.businessinsider.com/doj-investigates-doctor-pushing-questionable-coronavirus-treatments-after-accidental-email-2020-5)
I've always been suspicious of quacks... and when I heard Jerome Corsi's name come up in association with the guy, I knew something was up.
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https://www.businessinsider.com/doj-investigates-doctor-pushing-questionable-coronavirus-treatments-after-accidental-email-2020-5 (https://www.businessinsider.com/doj-investigates-doctor-pushing-questionable-coronavirus-treatments-after-accidental-email-2020-5)
I've always been suspicious of quacks... and when I heard Jerome Corsi's name come up in association with the guy, I knew something was up.
Me, too. Like the assholes who fed veterans one or two of the drugs but not the zinc, which is necessary to stop the viral action. That's the study after clicking from link to link to link to link that is being touted, and one which included the ionophore, but never the Zinc which interferes with the viral replication.
It was not a double blind FDA study either.
From https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/apr/21/coronavirus-second-wave-hydroxychloroquine-trial (https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/apr/21/coronavirus-second-wave-hydroxychloroquine-trial) An article which quotes the head of the CDC (an agency which has made a mess of all this, too)
Also on Tuesday, a malaria drug frequently touted by Trump for treating Covid-19 showed no benefit in a large analysis of its use in US veterans hospitals. There were more deaths among those given hydroxychloroquine than those given standard care, researchers reported.
First off, those given Standard care were mild cases. Only the most severe got the medication (Those most likely to die). But they didn't even get all of it, because the Zinc Sulfate was left out every time.
So a bunch of veterans, administered the hydroxychloroquine but not the ion it was supposed to get into the cells, at a late stage in the disease were killed by improper medication.
I hate to say it, but sadly, that is likely not a first--especially with the VA.
It may have been a large analysis, but the drug regimen was not properly administered to the patients, the patients it was administered to were in very bad shape already, while the regimen of hydroxychloroquine/Zithromax/Zinc Sulfate is something best administered earlier in the onset of the disease to stop damage from occurring, not late after the damage is done.
Other studies say different from the VA "analysis" and the CDC, which rapidly falls back on requiring study constraints it itself did not apply to its own 'study' to discredit the "anecdotal evidence":
FOX 26 gets unprecedented access to Texas' 1st nursing home to treat COVID-19 with Hydroxychloroquine
https://www.fox7austin.com/news/fox-26-gets-unprecedented-access-to-texas-1st-nursing-home-to-treat-covid-19-with-hydroxychloroquine
(https://www.fox7austin.com/news/fox-26-gets-unprecedented-access-to-texas-1st-nursing-home-to-treat-covid-19-with-hydroxychloroquine)
American Association of Physicians and Surgeons Says Hydroxychloroquine Helpful
https://www.rightnowmn.org/american_associan_of_physicians_and_surgeons_says_hydroxychloroquine_helpful (https://www.rightnowmn.org/american_associan_of_physicians_and_surgeons_says_hydroxychloroquine_helpful)
Hydroxychloroquine Has about 90 Percent Chance of Helping COVID-19 Patients
https://aapsonline.org/hcq-90-percent-chance/ (https://aapsonline.org/hcq-90-percent-chance/)
Other ionophores are discussed, but the available, effective, and cheap one is hydroxychloroquine.
But, scanning those articles, where are they coming from and where are they going to?
They are pushing for the vaccine. The vaccine which does not exist, has been already estimated to likely be no more than 60% effective if and when it does, and because of the mutation rate of the virus, will only grow less effective.
The medical industry has no interest in a cure, especially a cheap and readily available cure. There is no profit in taking a handful of pills that cost about $20 and wiping the bug out. Hell, there isn't even anything to patent.
A vaccine will make a fortune for the guy who is funding the WHO, which lied for the Chinese, who was in tighter than bedbugs with Google, who owns YouTube which is scrubbing videos which don't agree with the W.H.O., which profit motive or not, has already proven it doesn't know crap.
I, too, could "prove" just about anything to be wrong if I did flawed 'studies' on it (1 "study"), had a bunch of corrupted PhDs to stand up and say "SEE!", and the power to scrub dissent from the media.
That's beginning to look a lot like the Climate Change game to me, another of the UN bag of tricks.
Defense number one has always been to brand the dissent as "crackpots" or otherwise discredit them.
Just sayin' @jmyrlefuller
The Guardian says:Rampant disinformation, partisan news sources and social media's tsunami of fake news are no bases on which to inform the American public in 2020. We believe every one of us deserves equal access to fact-based news and analysis.
While there is a lot of truth in that statement, I don't necessarily point those fingers in the same direction as The Guardian.
If you chase the use of fake news and partisan news sources in this, they have made a muddle of everything, and they have almost all been leaning heavily in the same direction.
That's why I chased the use of hydroxychloroquine in the journals (scientific publications) just as I have pursued likely origins of the virus itself (not a 'wet market' like the Guardian says) through scientific publications.
Zinc is a known viral replication inhibitor. Hydroxychloroquine acts as an ionophore and transports the zinc through the cell membranes into the Type 1 pneumocytes, which keeps them from being destroyed. Macrolide antibiotics like Azithromycin not only fight bacterial infection, but mute the immune response, helping prevent a cytokine storm--the overactive immune response that can kill the patient.
Ionophores other than hydroxychloroquine have been discussed in the journals as well, but hydroxychloroquine is available, cheap, effective (if the ions are there to transport), off the shelf, and has a long history of being prescribed for longer terms for other maladies, so it is well known in terms of dosages and side effects. We're talking a five day course, here, not years of medication.
But it seems mentioning other ionophores here would only have the CDC, AMA, WHO, and their masters chasing down that information in an effort to discredit the basis for which they are used by not administering the source of the Zinc ions that they transport, in order to promote nonexistent vaccines and perpetuate both the outbreak and the economic devastation it has unleashed.
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Which is the more powerful force; Economics or Nature?
The Industrial Revolution, from 1750 till the Great War, took some 160 years to transform the world.
In contrast, the Bubonic Plague raged from 1348 to 1352, killing as many as 200 million, also transforming the world.
Yet the answer to the question should be obvious.
The notion that life will revert to its recent past, akin to switching on a light, is beyond brainless as
COVID is but another of Nature's trans-formative events and is still playing out.
A wise Man would be asking, what society will look like when this pandemic passes, factoring in
the inevitability of significant change.
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Which is the more powerful force; Economics or Nature?
The Industrial Revolution, from 1750 till the Great War, took some 160 years to transform the world.
In contrast, the Bubonic Plague raged from 1348 to 1352, killing as many as 200 million, also transforming the world.
Yet the answer to the question should be obvious.
The notion that life will revert to its recent past, akin to switching on a light, is beyond brainless as
COVID is but another of Nature's trans-formative events and is still playing out.
A wise Man would be asking, what society will look like when this pandemic passes, factoring in
the inevitability of significant change.
If you assume it is a natural event.
The most powerful impacts on the Human Condition ultimately impact and involve the limbic brain, through conflict or flight, and leave lasting impressions on cultures that survive.
Volcanic eruptions, climate shifts, cosmic impacts, major earthquakes, tsunamis, famine, pestilence, all the horsemen of the Apocalypse pop in from time to time.
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To clarify @Smokin Joe : I am actually bullish and optimistic on HCQ/zinc as a treatment.
What I find disturbing is when we see bad actors like Corsi trot "doctors" like Zelenko out to give too-good-to-be-true results that sound like they came out of an infomercial. It does make those who legitimately see it as a treatment look bad. Corsi has a notorious track record in that regard.
HCQ is a medicine. No medicine has a 100% success rate. Very few have a 90% success rate. To have the kind of success rate against a still-unknown virus when the treatment was designed for another virus altogether would be practically impossible.
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If you assume it is a natural event.
The most powerful impacts on the Human Condition ultimately impact and involve the limbic brain, through conflict or flight, and leave lasting impressions on cultures that survive.
Volcanic eruptions, climate shifts, cosmic impacts, major earthquakes, tsunamis, famine, pestilence, all the horsemen of the Apocalypse pop in from time to time.
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Perceptive observation about a natural event.
While I can't prove this, my sense is that the Chinese were
experimenting w/Nature's elements and criminally lost control.
Indeed the Four Horsemen are presently alive and well !
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To clarify @Smokin Joe : I am actually bullish and optimistic on HCQ/zinc as a treatment.
What I find disturbing is when we see bad actors like Corsi trot "doctors" like Zelenko out to give too-good-to-be-true results that sound like they came out of an infomercial. It does make those who legitimately see it as a treatment look bad. Corsi has a notorious track record in that regard.
HCQ is a medicine. No medicine has a 100% success rate. Very few have a 90% success rate. To have the kind of success rate against a still-unknown virus when the treatment was designed for another virus altogether would be practically impossible.
Or is the solution simpler than we've been told by aall the official doctors who have been making a mess of things?
The HCQ is not the medicine, it is what delivers the zinc into the cell, where it interferes with the viral replication. HCQ has no direct effect on the virus, but instead acts as an ionophore.It's the bus, not the passenger.
It is the zinc which has the antiviral effect, within the cells (Type 1 pneumocytes).
But every "study" the CDC and Fauci are pointing to LEFT OUT THE ZINC.
That is neither a fair not complete assessment of the regimen, just some science-ish done to prove that the HCQ by itself isn't effective, which Dr. Zelenko said. Zelenko explained the mechanism in nearly layman's terms,
That's why he proposed the three component pharmacology.
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Let's not be too rough on Corsi. He got the Swiftboat Vets together to stop John Kerry in 2004.
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Let's not be too rough on Corsi. He got the Swiftboat Vets together to stop John Kerry in 2004.
Corsi was a place the man could turn for help getting the word out.
It's obvious the CDC, the WHO, etc. had no interest in anything that didn't keep the panic, their importance, and the destruction of the economy going. Dammi man! Just think of the Grants they can get....
Anyone whose information has been scrubbed by YouTube for not marching in lockstep with the CCP and the WHO, and yes, the CDC is worth at least a second look.
Again, the CDCNIH guidelines only recommended against High Dose hydroxychloroquine, 1.5X what Zelenko recommended--(which was 200mg twice daily, with 500 mg Azithromycin, once daily, with 200 mg Zinc Sulfate, also once daily, for five days.) and then the CDC/NIH DID NOT MENTION ZINC--the active antiviral agent, once it is in the cell. Again, the reason to take the hydroxychloroquine is to get the zinc through the cell membrane into the cytoplasm to interfere with the virus' ability to replicate and destroy the cell. Since these cells are the Type 1 pneumocytes, which exchange oxygen and CO2 into and out of the blood respectively, they are important, and are the ones which SARS-CoV-2 attacks.
https://www.covid19treatmentguidelines.nih.gov/whats-new/ (https://www.covid19treatmentguidelines.nih.gov/whats-new/)