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Manchin: Removing Hawley, Cruz with 14th Amendment 'should be a consideration'
By Tal Axelrod - 01/16/21 10:35 AM EST
Sen. Joe Manchin (D-W.Va.) said that the Senate should consider removing Sens. Josh Hawley (R-Mo.) and Ted Cruz (R-Texas) via the 14th Amendment over their objections last week to the Electoral College results.
Speaking to PBS’s “Firing Line†Friday night, Manchin said the Senate should explore the option after a violent mob, riled up by President Trump and convinced by Republicans like Hawley and Cruz that the election was fraudulent, ransacked the Capitol in one of the darkest points in American democracy.
“They should look, absolutely. That should be a consideration,†Manchin responded when asked if the 14th Amendment should be triggered. “He understands that, Ted’s a very bright individual, and I get along fine with Ted. But what he did was totally outside of the realm of our responsibilities or our privileges.â€
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https://thehill.com/homenews/senate/534565-manchin-removing-hawley-cruz-with-14th-amendment-should-be-a-consideration
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Manchin is feeling brave enough to be honest, for a change.
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14th Amendment Section 3
No person shall be a Senator or Representative in Congress, or elector of President and Vice President, or hold any office, civil or military, under the United States, or under any State, who, having previously taken an oath, as a member of Congress, or as an officer of the United States, or as a member of any State legislature, or as an executive or judicial officer of any State, to support the Constitution of the United States, shall have engaged in insurrection or rebellion against the same, or given aid or comfort to the enemies thereof. But Congress may by a vote of two-thirds of each House, remove such disability.
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Just more of the shit narrative that has been perpetuated by MSM/Dim/Big Tech lies.
Cruz nor Hawley even remotely meet that criteria. You never really know how ridicululos or far kangaroo courted witch hunts can go.
But when so called "moderates" start spewing the lies, you better get your guard up.
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14th Amendment Section 3
No person shall be a Senator or Representative in Congress, or elector of President and Vice President, or hold any office, civil or military, under the United States, or under any State, who, having previously taken an oath, as a member of Congress, or as an officer of the United States, or as a member of any State legislature, or as an executive or judicial officer of any State, to support the Constitution of the United States, shall have engaged in insurrection or rebellion against the same, or given aid or comfort to the enemies thereof.
Fourteenth Amendment doesn't apply here. Neither Cruz nor Hawley engaged in any insurrection or rebellion against the Constitution. Contrarily, they were the only ones who stood to uphold it.
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Fourteenth Amendment doesn't apply here. Neither Cruz nor Hawley engaged in any insurrection or rebellion against the Constitution. Contrarily, they were the only ones who stood to uphold it.
Agree 100%, But what to do with a perspective of at least half that is deep rooted in delusion. Check out the Lincoln Project hit pieces. This is a coordinated planned effort to purge the conservative voice.
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Just more of the shit narrative that has been perpetuated by MSM/Dim/Big Tech lies.
Cruz nor Hawley even remotely meet that criteria. You never really know how ridicululos or far kangaroo courted witch hunts can go.
But when so called "moderates" start spewing the lies, you better get your guard up.
I suspect Manchin knows he's about to be caught between his Red-state constituents and the overwhelming "progressive" direction of his party and that he won't be able to hide; he's trying to find ways the appease the latter without getting crossed with the former.
How can it be possible that a Senator acting within Senate rules and the Electoral Count Act has violated the Constitution?
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How can it be possible that a Senator acting within Senate rules and the Electoral Count Act has violated the Constitution?
Have you ever read Animal Farm?
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I suspect Manchin knows he's about to be caught between his Red-state constituents and the overwhelming "progressive" direction of his party and that he won't be able to hide; he's trying to find ways the appease the latter without getting crossed with the former.
How can it be possible that a Senator acting within Senate rules and the Electoral Count Act has violated the Constitution?
Plus, many including his law professor Derschowitz has stated that Cruz is one of the most brilliant lawyers he has seen.
If they decide to conduct this Kanagroo Court, there may be some epic viewing to see. Shelia Jackson Lee vs. Ted Cruz? Oh yeah.....
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Fourteenth Amendment doesn't apply here. Neither Cruz nor Hawley engaged in any insurrection or rebellion against the Constitution. Contrarily, they were the only ones who stood to uphold it.
We know it doesn't apply but that isn't going to stop the Dems...they will make it apply.
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Fourteenth Amendment doesn't apply here. Neither Cruz nor Hawley engaged in any insurrection or rebellion against the Constitution. Contrarily, they were the only ones who stood to uphold it.
Don't ask Joe to understand the Constitution. He. - my Senator - is dumb as a box of rocks.
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I suspect Manchin knows he's about to be caught between his Red-state constituents and the overwhelming "progressive" direction of his party and that he won't be able to hide; he's trying to find ways the appease the latter without getting crossed with the former.
How can it be possible that a Senator acting within Senate rules and the Electoral Count Act has violated the Constitution?
The Constitution doesn't matter anymore. They DEMS will always claim that what they are doing is Constitutional, but we all know that they lie and they tell the lie until their liberal mental midget followers believe them.
Cruz and Hawley will be removed and anyone who now stands up against the leftists will be removed. We can be assured that the uniparty is in full control.
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Apparently even Xiden doesn't want him to be in his Administration.
Beto O'Rourke Opposes Ted Cruz Attending Biden Inauguration After Challenging Election Results
James Crowley 4 hrs ago
Following the announcement that Republican Senator Ted Cruz would attend President-Elect Joe Biden's inauguration on Wednesday, former Democratic Texas Congressman Beto O'Rourke tweeted his opposition to Cruz attending the ceremony.
According to The Texas Tribune, both Cruz and his fellow Texas Senator John Cornyn confirmed that they plan to attend the inauguration, where Biden will be sworn in as the 46th president.
O'Rourke, who ran against Cruz for his Senate seat in 2018, condemned the senator for his intention to attend, saying he shouldn't be allowed. The former congressman accused Cruz of sedition and inciting the violent protesters who invaded the Capitol on January 6, which lead to the deaths of five people.
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https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/beto-orourke-opposes-ted-cruz-attending-biden-inauguration-after-challenging-election-results/ar-BB1cOfSz (https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/beto-orourke-opposes-ted-cruz-attending-biden-inauguration-after-challenging-election-results/ar-BB1cOfSz)
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Any Republican trusting Manchin will be any less of a lunatic than the worst of the lot of Democommies is gravely wrong. Manchin is just as much a POS as the rest of the stinking Democommies.
:yowsa:
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Apparently even Xiden doesn't want him to be in his Administration.
Beto O'Rourke Opposes Ted Cruz Attending Biden Inauguration After Challenging Election Results
James Crowley 4 hrs ago
Following the announcement that Republican Senator Ted Cruz would attend President-Elect Joe Biden's inauguration on Wednesday, former Democratic Texas Congressman Beto O'Rourke tweeted his opposition to Cruz attending the ceremony.
According to The Texas Tribune, both Cruz and his fellow Texas Senator John Cornyn confirmed that they plan to attend the inauguration, where Biden will be sworn in as the 46th president.
O'Rourke, who ran against Cruz for his Senate seat in 2018, condemned the senator for his intention to attend, saying he shouldn't be allowed. The former congressman accused Cruz of sedition and inciting the violent protesters who invaded the Capitol on January 6, which lead to the deaths of five people.
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https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/beto-orourke-opposes-ted-cruz-attending-biden-inauguration-after-challenging-election-results/ar-BB1cOfSz (https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/beto-orourke-opposes-ted-cruz-attending-biden-inauguration-after-challenging-election-results/ar-BB1cOfSz)
I'm sure if Cruz doesn't get to attend Biden's inauguration he's going to be absolutely heartbroken. :bigsilly:
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Beto O'Rourke Opposes Ted Cruz Attending Biden Inauguration After Challenging Election Results
James Crowley 4 hrs ago
Following the announcement that Republican Senator Ted Cruz would attend President-Elect Joe Biden's inauguration on Wednesday, former Democratic Texas Congressman Beto O'Rourke tweeted his opposition to Cruz attending the ceremony.
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Didn't O'Rourke challenge the 2016 election results?
Beto O'Rourke: 'I don’t have complete confidence' Trump was elected fairly
Julio Rosas | May 18, 2019 01:00 PM
Democratic presidential hopeful Beto O'Rourke pointed to Russian hacking of Florida voter registration information as support for his suspicions about the 2016 presidential election.
When asked in an MSNBC interview Saturday if he was confident President Trump had been elected fairly, the former Texas congressman agreed the use of propaganda on voters and electoral system breaches gave him doubts.
"I don’t have complete confidence in part because of what you've just shared about Florida, in part because we know from other secretaries of state in other states in the union that their systems were breached. We don’t know if vote tallies were changed, but that alone should be cause for concern," O'Rourke said. . . .
https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/beto-orourke-i-dont-have-complete-confidence-trump-was-elected-fairly (https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/beto-orourke-i-dont-have-complete-confidence-trump-was-elected-fairly)
The hypocrisy of the left is limitless.
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Any Republican trusting Manchin will be any less of a lunatic than the worst of the lot of Democommies is gravely wrong. Manchin is just as much a POS as the rest of the stinking Democommies.
:yowsa:
I take this as more proof the establishment in DC know elections no longer matter and feel free to tell all of us to shove it.
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Any Republican trusting Manchin will be any less of a lunatic than the worst of the lot of Democommies is gravely wrong. Manchin is just as much a POS as the rest of the stinking Democommies.
As a WV resident, I don't trust Mojo at all. He is the embodiment of the old Democrat machine. He's stupid and he's corrupt.
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Lauren Boebert
@laurenboebert
Democrats try to rewrite history when it doesn’t fit their narrative.
In 2001, 2005 & 2017, objections to the counting of electoral votes were ok & weren’t perceived as trying to “overturn an election.â€
Video: https://twitter.com/laurenboebert/status/1349841646867931136
5:11 PM · Jan 14, 2021·Twitter Media Studio
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Senators are constitutionally allowed to challenge the election results if there was voter fraud which there was, there's no grounds to remove Cruz and Hawley.
12 Amendment:
https://constitution.congress.gov/constitution/amendment-12/ (https://constitution.congress.gov/constitution/amendment-12/)
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The Senate's prerogative is to seat or unseat its members.
Look for Chuckie to unseat these two, and others if they dare challenge anything the majority want.
But if the Dem unseat our Texas Senator, there is zero chance that secession will not be imminent as our state will not be fairly represented in DC.
All bets would then be off as
1. Congress refuses to allow representation
2. Our selection of President was unconstitutionally undermined by other states such as Pennsylvania
3. Judicial would not even hear a legal lawsuit challenging our unfair treatment.
So all three branches of federal government would be denying our Constitutional rights; therefore, there is no reason to remain in the USA.
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The Senate's prerogative is to seat or unseat its members.
Look for Chuckie to unseat these two, and others if they dare challenge anything the majority want.
But if the Dem unseat our Texas Senator, there is zero chance that secession will not be imminent as our state will not be fairly represented in DC.
All bets would then be off as
1. Congress refuses to allow represetation
2. Our selection of President was unconstitutionally undermined by other states such as Pennsylvania
3. Judicial would not even here a legal lawsuit challenging our unfair treatment.
So all three branches of federal government would be denying our Constitutional rights; therefore, there is no reason to remain in the USA.
I agree. Secession seems to our 21st century thinking extreme, but no more extreme than expelling our duly, legally represented Senator for executing our sovereign will on the floor of the US Congress.
I don't really expect a serious move to expel Ted Cruz, but if there is one and it succeeds, I will be following my friend @Bigun into the Texas Sovereignty movement and pressing for secession ASAP.
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All bets would then be off as
1. Congress refuses to allow representation
2. Our selection of President was unconstitutionally undermined by other states such as Pennsylvania
3. Judicial would not even here a legal lawsuit challenging our unfair treatment.
So all three branches of federal government would be denying our Constitutional rights; therefore, there is no reason to remain in the USA.
And Ft. Hood is in Texas.
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Manchin is feeling brave enough to be honest, for a change.
@skeeter
Why wouldn't he,given that there will be no more fair elections in the US? We now live under the rule of One Party that happens to have two branches.
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Plus, many including his law professor Derschowitz has stated that Cruz is one of the most brilliant lawyers he has seen.
If they decide to conduct this Kanagroo Court, there may be some epic viewing to see. Shelia Jackson Lee vs. Ted Cruz? Oh yeah.....
@catfish1957
I am NOT a Ted Cruz fan. There is just something about him that sets off the sirens and flashing lights for me,but he is clearly a VERY smart guy.
As for a legal showdown between him and Sheila Jackson Lee,if that is ever aired,it will be on Comedy Central. She is a clear contender for the title of "The stupidest politician ever elected",but I doubt that even she is THAT stupid.
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As a WV resident, I don't trust Mojo at all. He is the embodiment of the old Democrat machine. He's stupid and he's corrupt.
@mountaineer
Sounds like he meets all the qualifications to be a professional Dim politician. Yes,it WOULD help if he were a tri-sexual mulatto cross-dressing transexual with a sexual fixation on Karl Marx,but "Hey,NO political candidate is perfect!",right?
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I agree. Secession seems to our 21st century thinking extreme, but no more extreme than expelling our duly, legally represented Senator for executing our sovereign will on the floor of the US Congress.
I don't really expect a serious move to expel Ted Cruz, but if there is one and it succeeds, I will be following my friend @Bigun into the Texas Sovereignty movement and pressing for secession ASAP.
Am already there behind @Bigun
Biden and Congress will nullify our economic freedoms further by permitting unrestricted access by illegals into our state, by severely restricting our abilities to mine our oil and gas resources for our benefit, and to encumber our industries by excessive environmental regulations, fines and taxes.
Not to mention the subjugation of our citizens with +10,000 contact tracers to monitor and control our every move, a real restriction on our rights to carry arms, and the imposition of huge amounts of debt added to the national burden.
I suspect we will be further restricted by more control by federal voting controls in the name of 'Voting Rights' so our state will eventually become a blue state, to be lost forever into the chasm of socialism and urban progressivism. At that time, there will be no turning back.
It is time to return this state to its roots, and that is freedom to manage our own affairs.
The only other alternative I can think of is to execute our rights to separate into 5 states to place 8 more Senators in Congress and get back the control of that institution.
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@skeeter
Why wouldn't he,given that there will be no more fair elections in the US? We now live under the rule of One Party that happens to have two branches.
That is the feeling I get.
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AceSix4 Films
@AceSix4
Hey remember in 2016 when Hollywood lobbied members of the Electoral College to change their votes, ignore the will of the people, and overturn an election?
I do.
Video: https://twitter.com/AceSix4/status/1350546376900431872
3:52 PM · Jan 16, 2021·Twitter Web App