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Title: Pelosi claims Congress is a 'superior branch' of government, as clash with White House intensifies
Post by: mystery-ak on May 08, 2019, 02:23:50 pm
Pelosi claims Congress is a 'superior branch' of government, as clash with White House intensifies

By Brooke Singman | Fox News

House Speaker Nancy Pelosi on Wednesday declared that Congress is a “superior branch” of government, as the clash between congressional Democrats and the Trump administration over closely held documents intensifies.

During an interview with Robert Costa for Washington Post Live, Pelosi, D-Calif., was asked whether Congress is functioning as a coequal branch of government.

“I think we’re a superior branch, quite frankly,” Pelosi said. “We have the power to make the law and the president enforces the law. So we have a big role. We’re closest to the people and we have a big role to play.”

Despite Pelosi’s opinion, the U.S. Constitution, in its first three articles, defines three separate, but equal, branches of government: legislative, executive and judicial. The separation of powers also creates a system of checks and balances to ensure all three branches are coequal.

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Title: Re: Pelosi claims Congress is a 'superior branch' of government, as clash with White House intensifi
Post by: Cyber Liberty on May 09, 2019, 04:42:09 am
What a fool she is.  SCOTUS is the superior Branch.  And she likes it that way.
Title: Re: Pelosi claims Congress is a 'superior branch' of government, as clash with White House intensifi
Post by: dfwgator on May 09, 2019, 05:54:36 am
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Title: Re: Pelosi claims Congress is a 'superior branch' of government, as clash with White House intensifi
Post by: libertybele on May 09, 2019, 10:43:31 am
When she speaks of 'Congress' she is also speaking of herself.  NO Nancy, you are NOT superior!
Title: Re: Pelosi claims Congress is a 'superior branch' of government, as clash with White House intensifi
Post by: The_Reader_David on May 09, 2019, 12:20:47 pm
This is actually an example of the stopped clock phenomenon.  If you read the actual text of the Constitution, it is clear that the Founders meant for Congress to be in the driver's seat (later rhetoric about "three coequal branches" notwithstanding) -- they pass the legislation the executive enforces, they constitute courts, they can impeach and remove officers of the other two branches for "high crimes and misdemeanors", a phrase, which when it was written (and to this day) doesn't only include violations of statutory law, but abuse of power with Congress being the sole judge of when power has been abused.  Yes, both the executive (principally through the Presidential veto) and the courts (esp. post Madison v. Marbury) exercise some check on Congress, but they have no analogous sway over Congress to that Congress has over the other branches as specified in the Constitution .

Now, if anyone in Congress is serious about being the superior branch of government, they need to wind a back all the legislative authority previous Congresses have given to the executive in granting authority to make "regulation" "implementing" laws (which are really, effectively laws), and stop giving power away to the executive.  Taking the notion seriously is, of course, anathema to the Left because they like unelected officials (whether bureacrats in the executive or judges on the Federal bench) making law, the same way the UK Parliament likes the European Commmission making law -- their ideological and class interests are served without much effective appeal by the people and without them having to get their hands dirty.
Title: Re: Pelosi claims Congress is a 'superior branch' of government, as clash with White House intensifi
Post by: rustynail on May 09, 2019, 12:25:11 pm
The Federal Judge is the Ultimate Decider.
Title: Re: Pelosi claims Congress is a 'superior branch' of government, as clash with White House intensifi
Post by: Sanguine on May 09, 2019, 01:57:16 pm
She's got a false superiority complex.
Title: Re: Pelosi claims Congress is a 'superior branch' of government, as clash with White House intensifi
Post by: skeeter on May 09, 2019, 01:59:13 pm
She's got a false superiority complex.

But her case of senior agitation is very real. She gets nastier by the day.
Title: Re: Pelosi claims Congress is a 'superior branch' of government, as clash with White House intensifi
Post by: austingirl on May 09, 2019, 02:34:55 pm
I just saw her sputtering her way through more pronouncements about how vital it is for the American people to know the truth about Russian meddling and to have the full unredacted report.
Title: Re: Pelosi claims Congress is a 'superior branch' of government, as clash with White House intensifi
Post by: dfwgator on May 09, 2019, 02:38:41 pm
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Title: Re: Pelosi claims Congress is a 'superior branch' of government, as clash with White House intensifi
Post by: bilo on May 09, 2019, 04:44:43 pm
We’re closest to the people and we have a big role to play.”

The President is closest to the people of all the federal govt. office holders. It is the President that is elected by the entire country, not just one of 435 districts, or 1 of 50 states.
Title: Re: Pelosi claims Congress is a 'superior branch' of government, as clash with White House intensifi
Post by: rustynail on May 09, 2019, 05:42:50 pm
But her case of senior agitation is very real. She gets nastier by the day.

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Title: Re: Pelosi claims Congress is a 'superior branch' of government, as clash with White House intensifi
Post by: libertybele on May 09, 2019, 05:47:26 pm

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I don't think Nancy has schizo, she's just delusional with  dementia. I have no doubt that she's on something.
Title: Re: Pelosi claims Congress is a 'superior branch' of government, as clash with White House intensifi
Post by: Absalom on May 09, 2019, 07:39:46 pm
This is actually an example of the stopped clock phenomenon.  If you read the actual text of the Constitution, it is clear that the Founders meant for Congress to be in the driver's seat (later rhetoric about "three coequal branches" notwithstanding) -- they pass the legislation the executive enforces, they constitute courts, they can impeach and remove officers of the other two branches for "high crimes and misdemeanors", a phrase, which when it was written (and to this day) doesn't only include violations of statutory law, but abuse of power with Congress being the sole judge of when power has been abused.  Yes, both the executive (principally through the Presidential veto) and the courts (esp. post Madison v. Marbury) exercise some check on Congress, but they have no analogous sway over Congress to that Congress has over the other branches as specified in the Constitution .

Now, if anyone in Congress is serious about being the superior branch of government, they need to wind a back all the legislative authority previous Congresses have given to the executive in granting authority to make "regulation" "implementing" laws (which are really, effectively laws), and stop giving power away to the executive.  Taking the notion seriously is, of course, anathema to the Left because they like unelected officials (whether bureacrats in the executive or judges on the Federal bench) making law, the same way the UK Parliament likes the European Commmission making law -- their ideological and class interests are served without much effective appeal by the people and without them having to get their hands dirty.
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Strongly assert that "superiority" of any institution is a function of individuals
rather than any regulations and rules.
Ancient Greek and Roman governance was far superior to what moderns have
produced because of the quality of its leaders; their longevity of 13 centuries
being the testament of history to that realty.
Title: Re: Pelosi claims Congress is a 'superior branch' of government, as clash with White House intensifi
Post by: IsailedawayfromFR on May 09, 2019, 08:14:30 pm
Pelosi claims Congress is a 'superior branch' of government, as clash with White House intensifies

By Brooke Singman | Fox News

House Speaker Nancy Pelosi on Wednesday declared that Congress is a “superior branch” of government, as the clash between congressional Democrats and the Trump administration over closely held documents intensifies.

During an interview with Robert Costa for Washington Post Live, Pelosi, D-Calif., was asked whether Congress is functioning as a coequal branch of government.

“I think we’re a superior branch, quite frankly,” Pelosi said. “We have the power to make the law and the president enforces the law. So we have a big role. We’re closest to the people and we have a big role to play.”

Despite Pelosi’s opinion, the U.S. Constitution, in its first three articles, defines three separate, but equal, branches of government: legislative, executive and judicial. The separation of powers also creates a system of checks and balances to ensure all three branches are coequal.

more
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This is garbage civics.

The three branches are not co-equal (How do you measure that one anyway?) but are simply separate with checks and balances.