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Title: BIG NEWS=> Former Cruz Texas Chairman Switches to Trump – Tells Stragglers to Get on Board (VIDEO)
Post by: unknown on September 18, 2016, 03:46:38 am

BIG NEWS=> Former Cruz Texas Chairman Switches to Trump – Tells Stragglers to Get on Board (VIDEO)

http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2016/09/big-news-former-cruz-texas-chairman-switches-trump-tells-stragglers-get-board-video/

Jim Hoft
Sep 17th, 2016

Lt. Gov. Dan Patrick is taking an official role with the campaign of Republican presidential nominee Donald Trump, serving as his Texas state chairman.

During the primaries, Patrick had chaired U.S. Sen. Ted Cruz’s efforts in Texas.

Patrick has a message for any hardcore Cruz backers who may still be on the fence about Trump.

Quote
“To all the Ted Cruz supporters out there, I’m a longtime friend of Ted, I was his campaign chair in Texas. It’s time to come on board. It’s time to come on board. We have to defeat her. You have to put everything aside and focus on that Supreme Court.”

Title: Re: BIG NEWS=> Former Cruz Texas Chairman Switches to Trump – Tells Stragglers to Get on Board (VIDEO)
Post by: geronl on September 18, 2016, 04:04:26 am
As usual Trumpfascists trying to tell others how to vote.

No way. never.
Title: Re: BIG NEWS=> Former Cruz Texas Chairman Switches to Trump – Tells Stragglers to Get on Board (VIDEO)
Post by: Rivergirl on September 18, 2016, 04:19:54 am
Puke
Title: Re: BIG NEWS=> Former Cruz Texas Chairman Switches to Trump – Tells Stragglers to Get on Board (VIDEO)
Post by: Vulcan on September 18, 2016, 04:32:51 am
As usual Trumpfascists trying to tell others how to vote.

It's worse than that.  They're telling us to vote for one of the New York liberals, something no self-respecting conservative should ever do.  And I won't.

Title: Re: BIG NEWS=> Former Cruz Texas Chairman Switches to Trump – Tells Stragglers to Get on Board (VIDEO)
Post by: Norm Lenhart on September 18, 2016, 06:06:04 am
It's worse than that.  They're telling us to vote for one of the New York liberals, something no self-respecting conservative should ever do.  And I won't.

Another of Rick Perry's faithful. What else would one expect? I remember saying on TOS that Perry's crew wasn't to be trusted.
Title: Re: BIG NEWS=> Former Cruz Texas Chairman Switches to Trump – Tells Stragglers to Get on Board (VIDEO)
Post by: Vulcan on September 18, 2016, 06:09:36 am
Another of Rick Perry's faithful. What else would one expect? I remember saying on TOS that Perry's crew wasn't to be trusted.

Dewhurst supporters.

Title: Re: BIG NEWS=> Former Cruz Texas Chairman Switches to Trump – Tells Stragglers to Get on Board (VIDEO)
Post by: Formerly Once-Ler on September 18, 2016, 06:15:59 am
“To all the Ted Cruz supporters out there, I’m a longtime friend of Ted, I was his campaign chair in Texas. It’s time to come on board. It’s time to come on board. We have to defeat her. You have to put everything aside and focus on that Supreme Court.”

Brent Woodcox ‏@BrentWoodcox Sep 15

Is it time to admit that backing Trump based on his SCOTUS pick is just Stockholm Syndrome for GOP at this point?
Title: Re: BIG NEWS=> Former Cruz Texas Chairman Switches to Trump – Tells Stragglers to Get on Board (VIDEO)
Post by: LMAO on September 18, 2016, 06:16:34 am
I guess I'm a little old fashioned.

I always was under the impression that a candidate had to work for your vote and convince you why his or her policies are superior to the opposition. I didn't know begging, threatening, demanding, and insulting were now the new campaign strategies.

Times have indeed changed. Maybe not for the better
Title: Re: BIG NEWS=> Former Cruz Texas Chairman Switches to Trump – Tells Stragglers to Get on Board (VIDEO)
Post by: catfish1957 on September 18, 2016, 08:59:15 am
Tell Dan, I haven't seen one iota of an example of how this left leaning loud NY obnoxious Yankee has earned my vote.

eom
Title: Re: BIG NEWS=> Former Cruz Texas Chairman Switches to Trump – Tells Stragglers to Get on Board (VIDEO)
Post by: Longmire on September 18, 2016, 12:38:22 pm
Lt. Gov. Dan Patrick is taking an official role with the campaign of Republican presidential nominee Donald Trump, serving as his Texas state chairman.

Give Lt. Dan an ice cream cone!  :laugh:
Title: Re: BIG NEWS=> Former Cruz Texas Chairman Switches to Trump – Tells Stragglers to Get on Board (VIDEO)
Post by: Cripplecreek on September 18, 2016, 12:41:01 pm
Not a  ****sheep**** and still don't care.
Title: Re: BIG NEWS=> Former Cruz Texas Chairman Switches to Trump – Tells Stragglers to Get on Board (VIDEO)
Post by: Oceander on September 18, 2016, 12:43:39 pm
#NeverTrump
Title: Re: BIG NEWS=> Former Cruz Texas Chairman Switches to Trump – Tells Stragglers to Get on Board (VIDEO)
Post by: ConstitutionRose on September 18, 2016, 01:53:26 pm
His choice, not mine.  Grateful we still have individual choice.
Title: Re: BIG NEWS=> Former Cruz Texas Chairman Switches to Trump – Tells Stragglers to Get on Board (VIDEO)
Post by: TomSea on September 18, 2016, 01:58:34 pm
Lt. Governor Dan Patrick is a fine man, it's really the Governors and Lieutenant Governors who get things done.
Title: Re: BIG NEWS=> Former Cruz Texas Chairman Switches to Trump – Tells Stragglers to Get on Board (VIDEO)
Post by: sinkspur on September 18, 2016, 02:03:32 pm
Patrick's only accomplishment so far is getting his panties in a wad over transgender bathrooms.   He's pretty much worthless.
Title: Re: BIG NEWS=> Former Cruz Texas Chairman Switches to Trump – Tells Stragglers to Get on Board (VIDEO)
Post by: Cripplecreek on September 18, 2016, 02:07:32 pm
I didn't join any little cliques in middle school either.
Title: Re: BIG NEWS=> Former Cruz Texas Chairman Switches to Trump – Tells Stragglers to Get on Board (VIDEO)
Post by: beandog on September 18, 2016, 02:20:47 pm
His choice, not mine.  Grateful we still have individual choice.
I'm having a hard time understanding when all these politicians and radio hosts got the impression that how they vote has anything to do with how I vote.  Somehow they have been operating under the illusion that they somehow have an influence on what I should do.  It is truly bizarre.
Title: Re: BIG NEWS=> Former Cruz Texas Chairman Switches to Trump – Tells Stragglers to Get on Board (VIDEO)
Post by: Bigun on September 18, 2016, 02:30:46 pm
Dan Patrick is a long time friend but I vehemently disagree with him on voting for Donald Trump.
Title: Re: BIG NEWS=> Former Cruz Texas Chairman Switches to Trump – Tells Stragglers to Get on Board (VIDEO)
Post by: TomSea on September 18, 2016, 02:35:14 pm
Republicans like Rick Perry and Dan Patrick, actually do something for the right to life;

Mike Pence has done more on social conservative issues than Mark Levin and those 3 GOP Senators who ran, Paul, Rubio and Cruz combined. God Bless them all for what they do; but the facts need to be pointed out.
Title: Re: BIG NEWS=> Former Cruz Texas Chairman Switches to Trump – Tells Stragglers to Get on Board (VIDEO)
Post by: sinkspur on September 18, 2016, 02:42:13 pm
Republicans like Rick Perry and Dan Patrick, actually do something for the right to life;

Mike Pence has done more on social conservative issues than Mark Levin and those 3 GOP Senators who ran, Paul, Rubio and Cruz combined. God Bless them all for what they do; but the facts need to be pointed out.

Yeah.  Patrick's abortion clinic restrictions are gradually being undone by federal courts.

If pro-life is your issue this year, Tom, you are on very thin ice supporting Donald Trump.  He still advocates for Planned Parenthood and thinks women should be punished for abortions.
Title: Re: BIG NEWS=> Former Cruz Texas Chairman Switches to Trump – Tells Stragglers to Get on Board (VIDEO)
Post by: TomSea on September 18, 2016, 02:46:01 pm
Yeah.  Patrick's abortion clinic restrictions are gradually being undone by federal courts.

If pro-life is your issue this year, Tom, you are on very thin ice supporting Donald Trump.  He still advocates for Planned Parenthood and thinks women should be punished for abortions.

If you don't care to do anything for the right to life; that's your problem. 

You are trying to pigeonhole him by taking quotes out of context; I'd look at the total picture.

Trump Pence has gotten the endorsement of pro-life leaders like Troy Newman, they know their stuff.

If you want to support pro-choicers,  that's your choice, Clinton and Johnson are on the ticket.
Title: Re: BIG NEWS=> Former Cruz Texas Chairman Switches to Trump – Tells Stragglers to Get on Board (VIDEO)
Post by: sinkspur on September 18, 2016, 02:49:17 pm
If you don't care to do anything for the right to life; that's your problem. 

You are trying to pigeonhole him by taking quotes out of context; I'd look at the total picture.

Trump Pence has gotten the endorsement of pro-life leaders like Troy Newman, they know their stuff.

If you want to support pro-choicers,  that's your choice, Clinton and Johnson are on the ticket.

I've been pro-life longer than you've been alive, buster.

Trump said, in response to a question, that he believed women should be punished for having abortions.  That's how he really felt, until he was forced to walk it back by his campaign operatives.  Just like his belief that Planned Parenthood does a "lot of good things."

Pro-life leaders have nowhere else to go, except to have the courage to not endorse either Trump or Hillary.  They're cowards.
Title: Re: BIG NEWS=> Former Cruz Texas Chairman Switches to Trump – Tells Stragglers to Get on Board (VIDEO)
Post by: TomSea on September 18, 2016, 02:52:03 pm
I've been pro-life longer than you've been alive, buster.

Trump said, in response to a question, that he believed women should be punished for having abortions.  That's how he really felt, until he was forced to walk it back by his campaign operatives.  Just like his belief that Planned Parenthood does a "lot of good things."

Pro-life leaders have nowhere else to go, except to have the courage to not endorse either Trump or Hillary.  They're cowards.

You are quoting words, Mike Pence has done more for the pro-life movement than the 3 GOP Senators who ran for President and Mark Levin combined.

As they say,  actions speak louder than ???

And he's on the ticket, I'll err on the side of life if that is what it turns out to be; just like supporting Romney Ryan.

Title: Re: BIG NEWS=> Former Cruz Texas Chairman Switches to Trump – Tells Stragglers to Get on Board (VIDEO)
Post by: Rivergirl on September 18, 2016, 02:55:50 pm
Truth be told we have no idea how tRump feels about any topic.  He changes his mind as often as a new mother changes her baby's diapers.
Title: Re: BIG NEWS=> Former Cruz Texas Chairman Switches to Trump – Tells Stragglers to Get on Board (VIDEO)
Post by: TomSea on September 18, 2016, 03:02:14 pm
We sure knows how Trump feels about terrorism and secured borders. And Patriotism.

Title: Re: BIG NEWS=> Former Cruz Texas Chairman Switches to Trump – Tells Stragglers to Get on Board (VIDEO)
Post by: Silver Pines on September 18, 2016, 03:04:24 pm
“To all the Ted Cruz supporters out there, I’m a longtime friend of Ted, I was his campaign chair in Texas. It’s time to come on board.  (http://“To all the Ted Cruz supporters out there, I’m a longtime friend of Ted, I was his campaign chair in Texas. It’s time to come on board.)

He could be Ted Cruz himself.  Or my late father.  Or my husband.  Or John the Baptist.

It wouldn't matter a single damn, because I'll never vote for Trump.    :king:
Title: Re: BIG NEWS=> Former Cruz Texas Chairman Switches to Trump – Tells Stragglers to Get on Board (VIDEO)
Post by: Right_in_Virginia on September 18, 2016, 03:05:55 pm
Truth be told we have no idea how tRump feels about any topic.  He changes his mind as often as a new mother changes her baby's diapers. 

Truth be told, you are willfully ill-informed.
Title: Re: BIG NEWS=> Former Cruz Texas Chairman Switches to Trump – Tells Stragglers to Get on Board (VIDEO)
Post by: Sanguine on September 18, 2016, 03:06:01 pm
Another of Rick Perry's faithful. What else would one expect? I remember saying on TOS that Perry's crew wasn't to be trusted.

@Bigun, didn't Patrick lead the effort against Mike Lee's proposal at the convention? 
Title: Re: BIG NEWS=> Former Cruz Texas Chairman Switches to Trump – Tells Stragglers to Get on Board (VIDEO)
Post by: Silver Pines on September 18, 2016, 03:06:50 pm
If you don't care to do anything for the right to life; that's your problem. 

You are trying to pigeonhole him by taking quotes out of context; I'd look at the total picture.

Trump Pence has gotten the endorsement of pro-life leaders like Troy Newman, they know their stuff.

If you want to support pro-choicers,  that's your choice, Clinton and Johnson are on the ticket.

@TomSea

Why don't you check out the famous video of Trump saying clearly he would do nothing to stop partial-birth abortion....you know, the practice of driving scissors into the skulls of infants.

Keep telling yourself that something good can come from allying yourself with such a person.
Title: Re: BIG NEWS=> Former Cruz Texas Chairman Switches to Trump – Tells Stragglers to Get on Board (VIDEO)
Post by: TomSea on September 18, 2016, 03:07:06 pm
Ronald Reagan signed abortion legislation; pro-abortion legislation.

Trump never did.
Title: Re: BIG NEWS=> Former Cruz Texas Chairman Switches to Trump – Tells Stragglers to Get on Board (VIDEO)
Post by: Silver Pines on September 18, 2016, 03:10:04 pm
We sure knows how Trump feels about terrorism and secured borders. And Patriotism.

@TomSea

No, we don't.  All we have is a man with a lifetime of liberalism and a history of successful con jobs who said all of the things that appealed to a segment of angry, disenfranchised people.  All we have is words.   Sadly, some feel desperate enough to want to believe him.
Title: Re: BIG NEWS=> Former Cruz Texas Chairman Switches to Trump – Tells Stragglers to Get on Board (VIDEO)
Post by: TomSea on September 18, 2016, 03:11:32 pm
@TomSea

No, we don't.  All we have is a man with a lifetime of liberalism and a history of successful con jobs who said all of the things that appealed to a segment of angry, disenfranchised people.  All we have is words.   Sadly, some feel desperate enough to want to believe him.

We know we have a pro-lifer on the ticket who has done more than Paul, Cruz, Rubio and Mark Levin combined.  Sadly, some feel desperate enough to abandon innocents. As I said, I will risk erring on the side of life as I did with McCain, with Romney and so on.
Title: Re: BIG NEWS=> Former Cruz Texas Chairman Switches to Trump – Tells Stragglers to Get on Board (VIDEO)
Post by: TomSea on September 18, 2016, 03:13:21 pm
We have seen what we got with a "lifelong" Conservative in George Bush,  open borders, Saudi favoritism and Middle East mayhem. Yet, Bush was rated high as a "Conservative".
Title: Re: BIG NEWS=> Former Cruz Texas Chairman Switches to Trump – Tells Stragglers to Get on Board (VIDEO)
Post by: Silver Pines on September 18, 2016, 03:13:45 pm
Ronald Reagan signed abortion legislation; pro-abortion legislation.

Trump never did.

Is Ronald Reagan running this year?  What he did is irrelevant to this current election.

Again, nothing good can come from allying oneself with a man who would do nothing to stop partial-birth abortion and who supports Planned Parenthood.  Trump has given you no reason to believe he is pro-life; you're projecting onto him the qualities you want to see.
Title: Re: BIG NEWS=> Former Cruz Texas Chairman Switches to Trump – Tells Stragglers to Get on Board (VIDEO)
Post by: Silver Pines on September 18, 2016, 03:15:20 pm
We know we have a pro-lifer on the ticket

@TomSea

What has he done to make you believe he's pro-life?

His dismissal of partial-birth abortion?

His support for Planned Parenthood?

Title: Re: BIG NEWS=> Former Cruz Texas Chairman Switches to Trump – Tells Stragglers to Get on Board (VIDEO)
Post by: Sanguine on September 18, 2016, 03:19:51 pm
Lt. Governor Dan Patrick is a fine man, it's really the Governors and Lieutenant Governors who get things done.


LOL!  Good one, TomSea.
Title: Re: BIG NEWS=> Former Cruz Texas Chairman Switches to Trump – Tells Stragglers to Get on Board (VIDEO)
Post by: skeeter on September 18, 2016, 03:21:50 pm
There's no faster way to get me to say no thanks than to tell me to 'get on board'.
Title: Re: BIG NEWS=> Former Cruz Texas Chairman Switches to Trump – Tells Stragglers to Get on Board (VIDEO)
Post by: TomSea on September 18, 2016, 03:29:47 pm
My vote is based on more than what Tejanos may think.

And per pro-life creds, learn the news, lifenews.com , lifesitenews.com , I've been outside of abortion mills in peaceful demonstrations, I know that the Governors, Perry, Walker, Christie, Pence and Kasich have done things, records of actual performance, action, is much higher than the Senators.

Trump has always had some conservative principles versus what people are trying to tar him with.

Bush listened to Neo-Cons, heavy persecution of Christians started during the Bush administration in Iraq; so I get it, Bush wasn't the right Texas Conservative.
Title: Re: BIG NEWS=> Former Cruz Texas Chairman Switches to Trump – Tells Stragglers to Get on Board (VIDEO)
Post by: unknown on September 18, 2016, 03:30:52 pm

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Title: Re: BIG NEWS=> Former Cruz Texas Chairman Switches to Trump – Tells Stragglers to Get on Board (VIDEO)
Post by: Victoria33 on September 18, 2016, 03:34:18 pm
As usual Trumpfascists trying to tell others how to vote.

No way. never.
@geronl
@CatherineofAragon
@Oceander
@mystery-ak
@Bigun

This is not BIG NEWS.  That title sounds like Lt. Gov. Dan Patrick has deserted Cruz, smashing him over the head, throwing him under the bus, etc..  Patrick is tied to, as every other Texas Republican official is, to the State Republican Party.  The State Party is naturally endorsing their presidential candidate.

If Patrick didn't endorse Trump, it would cause him to lose favor with the state party and no state official can afford that to happen.  I worked in that state party and know their mindset.  In fact, I have lost contact with someone who is a state party official, due to my not endorsing Trump. 

Patrick endorsing Trump is not news - if he publicly said he would NOT endorse Trump, THAT WOULD BE BIG NEWS.
Title: Re: BIG NEWS=> Former Cruz Texas Chairman Switches to Trump – Tells Stragglers to Get on Board (VIDEO)
Post by: Right_in_Virginia on September 18, 2016, 03:47:54 pm
This is not BIG NEWS.  .../

Actually, it is pretty big news.  This endorsement furthers and deepens Cruz's political isolation @Victoria33 
Title: Re: BIG NEWS=> Former Cruz Texas Chairman Switches to Trump – Tells Stragglers to Get on Board (VIDEO)
Post by: Victoria33 on September 18, 2016, 03:53:14 pm
Actually, it is pretty big news.  This endorsement furthers and deepens Cruz's political isolation @Victoria33
@Right_in_Virginia
@Oceander
@CatherineofAragon

RIV, All your posts are Bovine Scatology.
Title: Re: BIG NEWS=> Former Cruz Texas Chairman Switches to Trump – Tells Stragglers to Get on Board (VIDEO)
Post by: Silver Pines on September 18, 2016, 03:54:55 pm
My vote is based on more than what Tejanos may think.

And per pro-life creds, learn the news, lifenews.com , lifesitenews.com , I've been outside of abortion mills in peaceful demonstrations, I know that the Governors, Perry, Walker, Christie, Pence and Kasich have done things, records of actual performance, action, is much higher than the Senators.

Trump has always had some conservative principles versus what people are trying to tar him with.

Bush listened to Neo-Cons, heavy persecution of Christians started during the Bush administration in Iraq; so I get it, Bush wasn't the right Texas Conservative.

@TomSea

What are those conservative principles Trump has always had?  And again, what, aside from his support of Planned Parenthood and dismissal of partial-birth abortion, convinces you that he is pro-life?  I'm trying to get at the concrete facts here and I hope you will provide them.

Also, though you've avoided answering this question before, what is a neo-con?  A few days ago, you linked the term with what you described as Jewish domination of Hollywood.  So, can you tell me who and what they are?
Title: Re: BIG NEWS=> Former Cruz Texas Chairman Switches to Trump – Tells Stragglers to Get on Board (VIDEO)
Post by: Sanguine on September 18, 2016, 03:56:05 pm
Actually, it is pretty big news.  This endorsement furthers and deepens Cruz's political isolation @Victoria33

You appear to feel that's a good thing.  Why on earth would you feel that way?
Title: Re: BIG NEWS=> Former Cruz Texas Chairman Switches to Trump – Tells Stragglers to Get on Board (VIDEO)
Post by: TomSea on September 18, 2016, 03:57:46 pm
There was no problem of Cruz and Trump appearing together at that DC rally, was there?

There was no problem with the two being aligned during the campaign either until they turned against each other, was there?

http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/bromance-trump-cruz/story?id=36312266
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-34202856

But now, it's different.

I'll save posting more on that or the congenial photos of the two together or that Cruz's position on immigration moved towards Trump's position, Rubio did the same.

Title: Re: BIG NEWS=> Former Cruz Texas Chairman Switches to Trump – Tells Stragglers to Get on Board (VIDEO)
Post by: Silver Pines on September 18, 2016, 03:58:02 pm
Actually, it is pretty big news.  This endorsement furthers and deepens Cruz's political isolation @Victoria33

@Right_in_Virginia

Once again we see that "big news" for some Trump supporters consists of anything which serves (in their minds) to diminish Ted Cruz.

They just can't get over the fact that he refuses to bend his knee to their man.  Just.  Cannot.  Get over it.
Title: Re: BIG NEWS=> Former Cruz Texas Chairman Switches to Trump – Tells Stragglers to Get on Board (VIDEO)
Post by: LMAO on September 18, 2016, 04:03:30 pm
You appear to feel that's a good thing.  Why on earth would you feel that way?

It's less about Cruz with them and more about his ideology. Constitutional, limited government, Conservatives are a threat to Trump's soft statism. Therefore, by extension, are a threat to them.
Title: Re: BIG NEWS=> Former Cruz Texas Chairman Switches to Trump – Tells Stragglers to Get on Board (VIDEO)
Post by: Sanguine on September 18, 2016, 04:20:52 pm
It's less about Cruz with them and more about his ideology. Constitutional, limited government, Conservatives are a threat to Trump's soft statism. Therefore, by extension, are a threat to them.

That appears to be the case.  I've resisted believing it, but @Right_in_Virginia may have finally convinced me.
Title: Re: BIG NEWS=> Former Cruz Texas Chairman Switches to Trump – Tells Stragglers to Get on Board (VIDEO)
Post by: GtHawk on September 18, 2016, 04:36:35 pm
Thanks but I think I'll listen to the this Lt. Dan and his band instead.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9C4PfkxJnyE
Title: Re: BIG NEWS=> Former Cruz Texas Chairman Switches to Trump – Tells Stragglers to Get on Board (VIDEO)
Post by: Formerly Once-Ler on September 18, 2016, 05:37:52 pm
We sure knows how Trump feels about terrorism and secured borders. And Patriotism.
Who has come out in support of terrorism?  Who has come out against patriotism?
As far as Trump's mythical wall that Mexico will pay for...how long have you dreamed about that and did you believe all the other people who said they were going to build a wall?
Title: Re: BIG NEWS=> Former Cruz Texas Chairman Switches to Trump – Tells Stragglers to Get on Board (VIDEO)
Post by: catfish1957 on September 18, 2016, 05:54:51 pm
You appear to feel that's a good thing.  Why on earth would you feel that way?

RIV, like a lot of other foam mouthing Trumpets have a deep hatred of a true conservative like Cruz.

Not surprised.
Title: Re: BIG NEWS=> Former Cruz Texas Chairman Switches to Trump – Tells Stragglers to Get on Board (VIDEO)
Post by: bolobaby on September 18, 2016, 06:18:37 pm
His choice, not mine.  Grateful we still have individual choice.

@ConstitutionRose

Foolish #NeverTrumper! Don't you know that your individual choice is invalidated by the choices of others? Clearly, you must sell out your principles and be just like this guy or you will become a laughingstock!

Also, why haven't you gotten on the gay marriage train yet? Don't you know that the majority of people are OK with it? Why, even the next Reagan, the most conservative candidate to ever walk the face of the planet, El Trumpo is a-ok with gay marriage. Therefore, you must be too!

Staaa-a-aaay with the flo-o-ock...
Title: Re: BIG NEWS=> Former Cruz Texas Chairman Switches to Trump – Tells Stragglers to Get on Board (VIDEO)
Post by: INVAR on September 18, 2016, 06:22:23 pm
Well at least we now understand how it is that an entire mob of people can be herded onto trains.

I don't care if Cruz himself endorses Trump and tells us to get on board his train.

Trump has done nothing to convince me to vote for him and his rabid death-threatening supporters have solidified my eternal hostility to them and their prince.
Title: Re: BIG NEWS=> Former Cruz Texas Chairman Switches to Trump – Tells Stragglers to Get on Board (VIDEO)
Post by: beandog on September 18, 2016, 06:29:27 pm
There was no problem of Cruz and Trump appearing together at that DC rally, was there?

There was no problem with the two being aligned during the campaign either until they turned against each other, was there?

http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/bromance-trump-cruz/story?id=36312266
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-34202856

But now, it's different.

I'll save posting more on that or the congenial photos of the two together or that Cruz's position on immigration moved towards Trump's position, Rubio did the same.

No more problem than the Donald inviting the Clintons to his third wedding, donating money to her and other demonrats, and telling us all not to long ago what a great person the Beast is and how she'd make a great President.  I guess times change and that was before he decided to run for President.
Title: Re: BIG NEWS=> Former Cruz Texas Chairman Switches to Trump – Tells Stragglers to Get on Board (VIDEO)
Post by: jmyrlefuller on September 18, 2016, 06:31:39 pm
Patrick's been peddling this line for months. Nothing new under the sun, just old news wrapped in pretty paper, tied up with a bow and packaged as something new.
Title: Re: BIG NEWS=> Former Cruz Texas Chairman Switches to Trump – Tells Stragglers to Get on Board (VIDEO)
Post by: jmyrlefuller on September 18, 2016, 06:32:56 pm
Actually, it is pretty big news.  This endorsement furthers and deepens Cruz's political isolation
It's also old news from months ago.
Title: Re: BIG NEWS=> Former Cruz Texas Chairman Switches to Trump – Tells Stragglers to Get on Board (VIDEO)
Post by: Bigun on September 18, 2016, 06:34:23 pm
Patrick's been peddling this line for months. Nothing new under the sun, just old news wrapped in pretty paper, tied up with a bow and packaged as something new.

Exactly right!

 888high58888
Title: Re: BIG NEWS=> Former Cruz Texas Chairman Switches to Trump – Tells Stragglers to Get on Board (VIDEO)
Post by: HonestJohn on September 18, 2016, 07:15:07 pm
RIV, like a lot of other foam mouthing Trumpets have a deep hatred of a true conservative like Cruz.

Not surprised.

I don't like Cruz, mainly for two reasons:

1. He comes across as a used-car salesman to me
2. His doomed shutdown bid

That said, he earned my respect for his actions this election cycle.  Depending on his behavior in the Senate over the next few years will let me know if he's gained some wisdom on how politics works. 

(IE: You can't be a lone crusader, you need friends/allies.  It's a quid pro quo world, you can't get anything without offering something.  And that honey attracts flies better than vinegar.)

So I'm on the fence with him.
Title: Re: BIG NEWS=> Former Cruz Texas Chairman Switches to Trump – Tells Stragglers to Get on Board (VIDEO)
Post by: XenaLee on September 18, 2016, 07:24:10 pm
It's less about Cruz with them and more about his ideology. Constitutional, limited government, Conservatives are a threat to Trump's soft statism. Therefore, by extension, are a threat to them.

Exactly right.  It's Alinsky 101.....and their hatred of Cruz stems from fear of what he stands for....the exact opposite of what their agenda dictates.

Quote
RULE 12: Pick the target, freeze it, personalize it, and polarize it.” Cut off the support network and isolate the target from sympathy. Go after people and not institutions; people hurt faster than institutions. (This is cruel, but very effective. Direct, personalized criticism and ridicule works.) 

I have to admit and confess.....my estimation of Cruz has gone up considerably since the convention.  He lives, rent free - luxury suite, in their heads.  I admire him for that.
Title: Re: BIG NEWS=> Former Cruz Texas Chairman Switches to Trump – Tells Stragglers to Get on Board (VIDEO)
Post by: ConstitutionRose on September 18, 2016, 09:27:41 pm
I don't like Cruz, mainly for two reasons:

1. He comes across as a used-car salesman to me
2. His doomed shutdown bid

That said, he earned my respect for his actions this election cycle.  Depending on his behavior in the Senate over the next few years will let me know if he's gained some wisdom on how politics works. 

(IE: You can't be a lone crusader, you need friends/allies.  It's a quid pro quo world, you can't get anything without offering something.  And that honey attracts flies better than vinegar.)

So I'm on the fence with him.

What I see in Cruz is typical for the very brilliant.  They have to learn social skills and how to "work the knobs" so to speak.  That's are not things that come naturally for them and the development of these skills are often ignored when they are younger because they live such a rich life through their intellect.