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Title: Gingrich: Trump handling the Senate 'badly'
Post by: mystery-ak on August 11, 2017, 02:17:02 pm

Gingrich: Trump handling the Senate 'badly'

By JAKE LAHUT

08/11/2017 09:51 AM EDT


Former House Speaker Newt Gingrich criticized President Trump's lack of cooperation with the Senate amid broadsides the president has levied at Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell this week.

"It's not the Senate that's the problem," Gingrich said in an interview Friday on the Fox Business Channel. "But notice as much as much as I admire the president, and as much as I think he's handling North Korea well, I think he's handling the Senate equally badly."

While Gingrich is not the first to point out Trump’s hesitancy to align with Republicans, he pointed to specific tendencies in his vocabulary as his primary fault in his working relationship with the Senate.

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Title: Re: Gingrich: Trump handling the Senate 'badly'
Post by: Cripplecreek on August 11, 2017, 02:24:29 pm
Gingrich is a traitor to Trump.  :silly:
Title: Re: Gingrich: Trump handling the Senate 'badly'
Post by: endicom on August 11, 2017, 03:09:18 pm
What then is the goodly way? We continue taking the Republican scenic route to Hell?
Title: Re: Gingrich: Trump handling the Senate 'badly'
Post by: EC on August 11, 2017, 03:16:57 pm
Newt - I like you (probably more than most here). Respect your intelligence. So don't go insulting mine with that BS.

The Senate is the problem. Not the House - they're passing bills. Not - in this case, anyways - the President. He's waiting for bills to land on his desk. In fact, I'll even give Trump credit for being slightly less thuggish in his approach to Senate opposition than he usually has been.

So, shut it with yon foolishness.
Title: Re: Gingrich: Trump handling the Senate 'badly'
Post by: kevindavis007 on August 11, 2017, 03:33:02 pm
Gingrich is a traitor to Trump.  :silly:


It's all for show.
Title: Re: Gingrich: Trump handling the Senate 'badly'
Post by: Bigun on August 11, 2017, 03:50:02 pm
Newt - I like you (probably more than most here). Respect your intelligence. So don't go insulting mine with that BS.

The Senate is the problem. Not the House - they're passing bills. Not - in this case, anyways - the President. He's waiting for bills to land on his desk. In fact, I'll even give Trump credit for being slightly less thuggish in his approach to Senate opposition than he usually has been.

So, shut it with yon foolishness.

Thanks!  Saved me the trouble!  :beer:
Title: Re: Gingrich: Trump handling the Senate 'badly'
Post by: EC on August 11, 2017, 03:52:05 pm
 :beer:

It ticked me.
Title: Re: Gingrich: Trump handling the Senate 'badly'
Post by: endicom on August 11, 2017, 04:02:05 pm
So, shut it with yon foolishness.


No hither? Don't seem right without hither.

@EC
Title: Re: Gingrich: Trump handling the Senate 'badly'
Post by: EC on August 11, 2017, 04:28:08 pm
 :tongue2:

That's a word we don't use much. Yon, on the other hand, is a common descriptor up North.
Title: Re: Gingrich: Trump handling the Senate 'badly'
Post by: Bigun on August 11, 2017, 04:31:05 pm
:beer:

It ticked me.

As it damn well should have!
Title: Re: Gingrich: Trump handling the Senate 'badly'
Post by: Cyber Liberty on August 11, 2017, 04:41:06 pm
:beer:

It ticked me.

Me too.  I saw him going on about this on Fox Business this morning, and I said to Mrs Liberty, "Newt's FOS on this one."  Gingrich is Legislature-centric, so he'd side with Ryan or McConnell instinctively.  He did not more past his instincts on this, and I was surprised because he usually thinks deeper than that.

That said, calling Gingrich a "traitor to Trump" is hyperbolic, even if in jest.  It's possible to just be wrong.
Title: Re: Gingrich: Trump handling the Senate 'badly'
Post by: endicom on August 11, 2017, 05:40:27 pm
:tongue2:

That's a word we don't use much. Yon, on the other hand, is a common descriptor up North.


Well, I ain't Walken it back. Needs more hither.
Title: Re: Gingrich: Trump handling the Senate 'badly'
Post by: roamer_1 on August 11, 2017, 08:04:39 pm
:tongue2:

That's a word we don't use much. Yon, on the other hand, is a common descriptor up North.

'Yonder' for the rest of us...
Title: Re: Gingrich: Trump handling the Senate 'badly'
Post by: Cripplecreek on August 11, 2017, 08:12:33 pm
'Yonder' for the rest of us...

I go with yonder as well.

Course I also say winder
Title: Re: Gingrich: Trump handling the Senate 'badly'
Post by: roamer_1 on August 11, 2017, 08:19:55 pm
I go with yonder as well.

Course I also say winder

Me too.
Title: Re: Gingrich: Trump handling the Senate 'badly'
Post by: Formerly Once-Ler on August 11, 2017, 10:12:38 pm
Newt - I like you (probably more than most here). Respect your intelligence. So don't go insulting mine with that BS.

The Senate is the problem. Not the House - they're passing bills. Not - in this case, anyways - the President. He's waiting for bills to land on his desk. In fact, I'll even give Trump credit for being slightly less thuggish in his approach to Senate opposition than he usually has been.

So, shut it with yon foolishness.

Newt never implied the House was the problem.  He certainly implied the President was the problem.  He said Trump is a player too...he is on the field.  He didn't lobby anybody in the Senate and he offered no solutions for the replacement Trumpcare.
Title: Re: Gingrich: Trump handling the Senate 'badly'
Post by: Cyber Liberty on August 11, 2017, 11:48:17 pm
Newt never implied the House was the problem.  He certainly implied the President was the problem.  He said Trump is a player too...he is on the field.  He didn't lobby anybody in the Senate and he offered no solutions for the replacement Trumpcare.

He's right about that.  Trump could have done more to lobby the Senators, and it's true he didn't know how to do that.  But it's a shared responsibility. 

McCain said, after he stuck the knife in Trump, it was because the Governor of AZ expressed concern that it wasn't enough.  If Trump would have known that, he could have lobbied the Governor, but McCain didn't tell him in time that he should.  So McCain was able to waltz off claiming he was doing what his constituents wanted.  If I was Gov. Ducey I'd be pissed at McCain.
Title: Re: Gingrich: Trump handling the Senate 'badly'
Post by: Freedom928 on August 12, 2017, 04:55:35 am
McCain is a disgrace. It's not Christian to wish someone dead so I'll just wish the cancer does enough to remove him from his position so we can get an actual conservative in there instead of his traitorous and crazy self.

From what I understand he really screwed over a lot of people while in the service. He had no business flying a plane and he dropped a bomb right on the flight deck of ship he was getting ready to take off from. The damage was immense and rather than help fight the fire where good real servicemen were killed; he ran away. This was a case where the turd rose to the top instead of the cream.
Title: Re: Gingrich: Trump handling the Senate 'badly'
Post by: Formerly Once-Ler on August 13, 2017, 02:27:37 am
He's right about that.  Trump could have done more to lobby the Senators, and it's true he didn't know how to do that.  But it's a shared responsibility. 

McCain said, after he stuck the knife in Trump, it was because the Governor of AZ expressed concern that it wasn't enough.  If Trump would have known that, he could have lobbied the Governor, but McCain didn't tell him in time that he should.  So McCain was able to waltz off claiming he was doing what his constituents wanted.  If I was Gov. Ducey I'd be pissed at McCain.

I KNOW RIGHT?!?  Why didn't anybody see this coming?  I read on the internet that Senate Majority Leader McConnell has always run his reelection campaigns honorably, and he has never failed to fix the problems in America since he was elected Senate Majority leader 7 years ago, but then suddenly, after President Trump was elected, Mitch started to go all Establishmenty.  I just wish advisors like Steve Bannon and Roger Stone could have somehow predicted Senators McConnell, and McCain might not be reliable.

Sad.
Title: Re: Gingrich: Trump handling the Senate 'badly'
Post by: Cyber Liberty on August 13, 2017, 03:47:48 am
I KNOW RIGHT?!?  Why didn't anybody see this coming?  I read on the internet that Senate Majority Leader McConnell has always run his reelection campaigns honorably, and he has never failed to fix the problems in America since he was elected Senate Majority leader 7 years ago, but then suddenly, after President Trump was elected, Mitch started to go all Establishmenty.  I just wish advisors like Steve Bannon and Roger Stone could have somehow predicted Senators McConnell, and McCain might not be reliable.

Sad.

Read that on the internet, huh.   :laugh:

(I knew McConnell's an a-hole, along with McCain and the others, and I didn't need the internet to know that...)
Title: Re: Gingrich: Trump handling the Senate 'badly'
Post by: Suppressed on August 13, 2017, 03:03:08 pm
Trump could have done more to lobby the Senators, and it's true he didn't know how to do that. 

The guy who put "experienced at dealmaking" on his résumé, and after hiring him you figure out he was cashier at McDonald's.
Title: Re: Gingrich: Trump handling the Senate 'badly'
Post by: Oceander on August 13, 2017, 03:06:03 pm
The guy who put "experienced at dealmaking" on his résumé, and after hiring him you figure out he was cashier at McDonald's.

Bingo!
Title: Re: Gingrich: Trump handling the Senate 'badly'
Post by: Suppressed on August 16, 2017, 04:30:56 am
From what I understand he really screwed over a lot of people while in the service. He had no business flying a plane and he dropped a bomb right on the flight deck of ship he was getting ready to take off from. The damage was immense and rather than help fight the fire where good real servicemen were killed; he ran away. This was a case where the turd rose to the top instead of the cream.

@Freedom928

How about some citations on those claims? If you're talking about the Forrestal incident, what you described is nothing like what happened. Again, it sounds like you're getting fooled by a lot of the made-up garbage going around sites like FR, where facts don't matter.
Title: Re: Gingrich: Trump handling the Senate 'badly'
Post by: Cyber Liberty on August 16, 2017, 04:42:24 am
@Freedom928

How about some citations on those claims? If you're talking about the Forrestal incident, what you described is nothing like what happened. Again, it sounds like you're getting fooled by a lot of the made-up garbage going around sites like FR, where facts don't matter.

I detest McCain, and I'm pretty sure he was thoroughly exonerated by the investigation of the Forrestal.  But, I also believe somebody who crashed as many trainers as he did would never have been allowed to get into a plane on the Forrestal.  But I wasn't there back then, so I don't know what he did in school.
Title: Re: Gingrich: Trump handling the Senate 'badly'
Post by: Formerly Once-Ler on August 16, 2017, 04:52:32 am
@Freedom928

How about some citations on those claims? If you're talking about the Forrestal incident, what you described is nothing like what happened. Again, it sounds like you're getting fooled by a lot of the made-up garbage going around sites like FR, where facts don't matter.

It's common knowledge on Trumpbart.com .  You sound like the kind of person who has empathy and compassion for American POWs.  Like our President, I like people who weren’t captured.

Title: Re: Gingrich: Trump handling the Senate 'badly'
Post by: Bigun on August 16, 2017, 01:01:57 pm
It's common knowledge on Trumpbart.com .  You sound like the kind of person who has empathy and compassion for American POWs.  Like our President, I like people who weren’t captured.

You sound like someone who is easily lead!  The ONLY reasons anyone knows John Sidney McCain III's name are his Admiral Father John Sidney McCain Jr and his Admiral Grandfather John Sidney McCain!  Absent their presence III would be selling used cars somewhere with very few ever having heard of him!


 
Title: Re: Gingrich: Trump handling the Senate 'badly'
Post by: Freedom928 on August 16, 2017, 04:19:42 pm
@Freedom928

How about some citations on those claims? If you're talking about the Forrestal incident, what you described is nothing like what happened. Again, it sounds like you're getting fooled by a lot of the made-up garbage going around sites like FR, where facts don't matter.
Even if only half of what is being reported is true; he had no business flying our planes. I don't care how much whitewashing went on to show he was some kind of hero. He's a zero to me.

Outside of that, and more current, like anyone I form opinions and over the years of watching McCain stab me and my fellow Americans in the back with things like Amnesty and other very unpopular polices then make a big show about coming back from surgery to file a NO vote and once again stab us all in the back; my opinion of him is somewhere between scum and slime. Probably both with some body excretions thrown in.