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General Category => Politics/Government => Topic started by: edpc on June 14, 2018, 03:15:21 pm
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(CNN)The New York attorney general is suing President Donald Trump's charitable foundation along with its directors -- the President, his sons Eric and Donald Jr. and daughter Ivanka, alleging they violated state and federal charities law.
Attorney General Barbara Underwood alleges a pattern of persistent illegal conduct over more than a decade that includes extensive unlawful political coordination with the Trump presidential campaign.
https://www.cnn.com/2018/06/14/politics/new-york-lawsuit-trump-foundation/index.html (https://www.cnn.com/2018/06/14/politics/new-york-lawsuit-trump-foundation/index.html)
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Happy Birthday Mr. President.
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Donald J. Trump
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@realDonaldTrump
The sleazy New York Democrats, and their now disgraced (and run out of town) A.G. Eric Schneiderman, are doing everything they can to sue me on a foundation that took in $18,800,000 and gave out to charity more money than it took in, $19,200,000. I won’t settle this case!...
10:09 AM - Jun 14, 2018
Donald J. Trump
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@realDonaldTrump
....Schneiderman, who ran the Clinton campaign in New York, never had the guts to bring this ridiculous case, which lingered in their office for almost 2 years. Now he resigned his office in disgrace, and his disciples brought it when we would not settle.
10:09 AM - Jun 14, 2018
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Funny how this political hack waited until the IG report is released to announce this go nowhere suit.
(https://s7d2.scene7.com/is/image/TWCNews/al-barbara-underwood-0522jpg?wid=640)
"No Sir. I am not a man. I am just extremely ugly. Next question?"
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NEW YORK (AP) — President Donald Trump’s charitable foundation served as a personal piggy bank for his businesses, legal bills and presidential campaign, New York’s attorney general said Wednesday as she sued the charity, Trump and three of his children.
The Donald J. Trump Foundation “was little more than a checkbook for payments from Mr. Trump or his businesses to nonprofits, regardless of their purpose or legality,†Democratic Attorney General Barbara Underwood said as she sued to dissolve the foundation and seek $2.8 million in restitution.
https://www.apnews.com/50aaffc1cfbb448f98380be789f5d127 (https://www.apnews.com/50aaffc1cfbb448f98380be789f5d127)
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The Donald J. Trump Foundation “was little more than a checkbook for payments from Mr. Trump or his businesses to nonprofits, regardless of their purpose or legality,â€
Regardless of their "legality"? So it was legal, but you are suing anyway. Good luck with that ugly pig.
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And we're all supposed to accept Comey,et al were just incompetent and move on.
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(https://s7d2.scene7.com/is/image/TWCNews/al-barbara-underwood-0522jpg?wid=640)
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Looks a bit like Katy Tur's transsexual dad, Robert (Zoey) Tur.
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This could backfire for being patently political.
This could backfire for bringing to mind the Clinton Foundation.
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Whenever these things happen, I remember, Trump has been in the public eye for 40 years or more, he's been in business for a very long time. Why haven't these things happened before? Why hasn't he been caught on these?
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New York sues Trump Foundation, alleging 'extensive' lawbreaking
June 14, 2018
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-44486250 (https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-44486250)
New York's attorney general announced on Thursday she was suing the Trump Foundation, as well as Donald Trump and his children, alleging "extensive and persistent" lawbreaking.
Barbara Underwood said the charitable foundation had engaged in "unlawful political co-ordination" designed to influence the 2016 election.
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Shades of the Clinton Foundation.
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Guilty
(http://www.nydailynews.com/resizer/-Ak37Y5h8kWAiurVun25aDrvla0=/1400x0/arc-anglerfish-arc2-prod-tronc.s3.amazonaws.com/public/ILSVG4UORWDIPN7LCKPCHDSGBI.jpg)
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Whenever these things happen, I remember, Trump has been in the public eye for 40 years or more, he's been in business for a very long time. Why haven't these things happened before? Why hasn't he been caught on these?
On the one hand you could say because he paid off the right people and wasn't a political threat then. On the other hand you could say that it's because he is a political threat now.
Or that even though he paid off the right people then, it's because he is a serious political threat now and potentially in the future. It doesn't matter to the press because they are only going to run with one theme, that Trump and his family are guilty...................of everything the Clintons and Obamas did.
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Shades of the Clinton Foundation.
Not at all. This ugly old whore Underwood admits that what Trump did may be legal, but she doesn't like it anyway. That's why she isn't going for jail time. Just some shit $2.5 Mill fine. This is a fraud and a joke.
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Funny how this political hack waited until the IG report is released to announce this go nowhere suit.
(https://s7d2.scene7.com/is/image/TWCNews/al-barbara-underwood-0522jpg?wid=640)
"No Sir. I am not a man. I am just extremely ugly. Next question?"
Just when you think the leftie hags can't possibly get any uglier (inside AND out)....
they up and surprise ya.
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Shades of the Clinton Foundation.
It's just more of the idiot left's ssdd "tit for tat" and sore-loser routine.
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Not at all. This ugly old whore Underwood admits that what Trump did may be legal, but she doesn't like it anyway. That's why she isn't going for jail time. Just some shit $2.5 Mill fine. This is a fraud and a joke.
No, she said that payments were made without regard to whether those payments were legal or illegal. Take off the Trump glasses from time to time, you’ll see and read better.
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No, she said that payments were made without regard to whether those payments were legal or illegal.
Which says they are probably legal.......which is why she is fining him and not arresting him.
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Which says they are probably legal.......which is why she is fining him and not arresting him.
No, it doesn’t. It just as equally says they are probably illegal.
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Regardless of their "legality"? So it was legal, but you are suing anyway. Good luck with that ugly pig.
@Frank Cannon
If you read that sentence properly it implies that Trump doesn't care about the legality. Like this...
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DfqoYXfWAAAcIk-.jpg)
paying Mara-Lago legal bills with Trump Crime Family Foundation donations.
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It's just more of the idiot left's ssdd "tit for tat" and sore-loser routine.
Neither Bill nor Donald ever had any interest in tat.
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No, it doesn’t. It just as equally says they are probably illegal.
See. Some crime. It's all based on a glass half full/empty argument.
It's Banana Republic horseshit from an open Communist dyke legal hack.
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A few facts about this questionable suit: The Trump Family Foundation gave out more ($19 million) than it took in ($18 million); there are no expenses – $0, no salaries, no staff, nothing. It’s a family foundation with work handled by family members.
Now compare that to the Clinton foundation with 486 employees, also registered in NY, where only 3% of the monies were donated to the various causes: in 2014, revenue was $177.8 million with grants of $5.1 million and expenses of $91.2 million. But wait, there are more brow-raising figures at the link.
So, why is this new attorney general of NY not suing the Clinton Foundation and instead going after Trump now? Is she ignorant of the laws concerning charitable organization; or is she just another political animal taking the place of the disgraced former AG Schneiderman doing the work of the swamp. You figure it out.
http://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/231363 (http://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/231363)
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A few facts about this questionable suit:
The most important fact about the case is that whataboutism will not work as a defense in court – especially in New York.
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The most important fact about the case is that whataboutism will not work as a defense in court – especially in New York.
True. But once this goes to court and is immediately thrown out as baseless, the harm (undermining confidence in the president) will already have been done.
By now the establishment’s frenzied attempts to damage Trump politically should be obvious to all.
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The Trump Family Foundation gave out more ($19 million) than it took in ($18 million); there are no expenses – $0, no salaries, no staff, nothing.
I'm trying to figure out how an organization does that?
Did it borrow money to give out? Did it take in donations that did not go into the accounting?
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In the long run this is probably the move that guaranteed a Clinton Foundation audit and investigation. Hillary will eventually, assuming she lives that long, rue this day.
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'But once this goes to court and is immediately thrown out as baseless, the harm (undermining confidence in the president) will already have been done.'
Maybe or maybe not. Jmo, but I'm guessing part of Trump's uptick in popularity is due to more and more people waking up to the political motivation of Mueller's witch hunt. Iow, hounding and harassing a sitting president could well be a losing strategy. If so, count on the Democrats to double down on it.
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Neither Bill nor Donald ever had any interest in tat.
Right.... that was probably Barry.
Nevermind.
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I'm trying to figure out how an organization does that?
Did it borrow money to give out? Did it take in donations that did not go into the accounting?
Trump put his own money into the foundation. “Between 2001 and 2008, the president donated a total of $2.8 million†according to Forbes.
But, again why are we lending attention to an obviously politically motivated lawsuit? Because it’s not really about infractions of paperwork and registration deadlines of the private citizen Donald Trump that the attorney general of NY is pursuing, it’s about an ongoing attempt to undo an election of a President that the establishment didn’t want.
Clinton was Secretary of State while receiving money from countries with business before the state department, for heaven’s sake!
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If the allegations in the complaint are even partially true, this won’t be thrown out as baseless. NY law can be pretty harsh on non-profit managers who fail to punctiliously follow the rules.
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Whenever these things happen, I remember, Trump has been in the public eye for 40 years or more, he's been in business for a very long time. Why haven't these things happened before? Why hasn't he been caught on these?
The reason Trump wasn't caught was because he was a Democrat then. They ALWAYS get a pass Now that he is changed party affiliation the shoe is on the other foot.
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Maybe or maybe not. Jmo, but I'm guessing part of Trump's uptick in popularity...
@Fantasywriter
https://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/other/president_trump_job_approval-6179.html (https://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/other/president_trump_job_approval-6179.html)
I like your forum name. Welcome
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Welcome to TBR @Fantasywriter
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True. But once this goes to court and is immediately thrown out as baseless, the harm (undermining confidence in the president) will already have been done.
I wouldn’t be sure that it would get dismissed as baseless because again, it’s New York.
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Thanks, Corbe.
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Thanks, Once-Ler. It took 4 tries but I finally got the avatar to load. The original caption was, "Run, Cucks, run!"
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Thanks, Once-Ler. It took 4 tries but I finally got the avatar to load. The original caption was, "Run, Cucks, run!"
@Fantasywriter are you gonna say "cuckservative" and "snowflake" a lot...that never gets old.
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And we're all supposed to accept Comey,et al were just incompetent and move on.
Obviously you didn't get that memo that the DOJ/FBI has two different sets of rules; one for liberals and one for Trump and family.
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Trump put his own money into the foundation. “Between 2001 and 2008, the president donated a total of $2.8 million†according to Forbes.
But, again why are we lending attention to an obviously politically motivated lawsuit? Because it’s not really about infractions of paperwork and registration deadlines of the private citizen Donald Trump that the attorney general of NY is pursuing, it’s about an ongoing attempt to undo an election of a President that the establishment didn’t want.
Clinton was Secretary of State while receiving money from countries with business before the state department, for heaven’s sake!
Okay thanks! I was trying to understand how that statement was even possible. It was donated money; it included money from Trump that wasn't part of the $18 million
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I'm trying to figure out how an organization does that?
Did it borrow money to give out? Did it take in donations that did not go into the accounting?
Probably roll over from a prior year. For example, the foundation may hold $20m in assets. The next year Trump sees his he needs to bring some asset holding value down so he donates $19 million to his own foundation. That foundation then donates $20 million to other foundations, so the foundations holdings on hand are $19 million. Not saying this is the case with the Trump foundation, but for similar foundations (Clinton cough cough) sometimes they end up donating to other family run foundations which is where the real expenses are and how this one shows no expense. Foundation A is just for holding and distributing. Foundations B-Z get money from A and do whatever with it. B-Z have the staff, parties, expenses, pumping it back to family and friends, wedding dresses, etc.
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“The sleazy New York Democrats, and their now disgraced (and run out of town) A.G. Eric Schneiderman, are doing everything they can to sue me on a foundation that took in $18,800,000 and gave out to charity more money than it took in, $19,200,000. I won’t settle this case!â€
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-trump-trump-foundation-reply/trump-blasts-new-york-lawsuit-i-wont-settle-this-case-idUSKBN1JA2AA (https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-trump-trump-foundation-reply/trump-blasts-new-york-lawsuit-i-wont-settle-this-case-idUSKBN1JA2AA)
Keep in mind, he said he wouldn’t settle the Trump University case in the same jurisdiction. He ended up settling for $25M.
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Whenever these things happen, I remember, Trump has been in the public eye for 40 years or more, he's been in business for a very long time. Why haven't these things happened before? Why hasn't he been caught on these?
It has happened before, constantly. He has been party to over 3000 lawsuits and investigations. Hell, his first appearance in the New York Times in the early 70s after he took over the family business was the Nixon Administration going after him for racist renting practices.
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If the allegations in the complaint are even partially true, this won’t be thrown out as baseless. NY law can be pretty harsh on non-profit managers who fail to punctiliously follow the rules.
I bet Trump can't wait for discovery....every e-mail/text utterance from the democrat New York regime is now open.
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I bet Trump can't wait for discovery....every e-mail/text utterance from the democrat New York regime is now open.
So is theirs. He had better hope it’s settled and doesn’t come down to a deposition. The ones he’s previously done have been decidedly underwhelming. For someone so invested in his reputation as a negotiator and executive, it’s stunning how uninvolved he actually is when under oath. Check YouTube for past records when he took the stand.
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The most important fact about the case is that whataboutism will not work as a defense in court – especially in New York.
I'm sorry...I didn't know this is a court. I thought it was a discussion forum....
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If the allegations in the complaint are even partially true, this won’t be thrown out as baseless. NY law can be pretty harsh on non-profit managers who fail to punctiliously follow the rules.
Like Bill, Hillary and Chelsea Clinton? I believe that's a NY based charity too, only without the legal oversight.
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So is theirs. He had better hope it’s settled and doesn’t come down to a deposition. The ones he’s previously done have been decidedly underwhelming. For someone so invested in his reputation as a negotiator and executive, it’s stunning how uninvolved he actually is when under oath. Check YouTube for past records when he took the stand.
Now we are talking about subversion of our democracy. This will be played out in the political realm.
Care to back the democrats... well I would not.
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I'm sorry...I didn't know this is a court. I thought it was a discussion forum....
Except if you read the post to which I was originally replying, it raised legal questions about the Clintons. As I stated before, that’s not going to be relevant if/when this case goes to court.