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Title: Trump: I Would Ban Taxpayer Funding of Abortion
Post by: mystery-ak on September 17, 2016, 01:01:58 am

Trump: I Would Ban Taxpayer Funding of Abortion
Christine Rousselle
9/16/2016 6:00:00 PM

Today, Donald Trump announced the formation of a pro-life coalition for his campaign and hired Marjorie Dannenfelser of the Susan B. Anthony's list as chairwoman. Additionally, Trump outlined a pro-life platform and a commitment to appointing a pro-life Supreme Court justice and permanently banning any taxpayer funding of abortion.

SBA List later tweeted an infographic highlighting Trump's pro-life credentials:



Susan B Anthony List
‏@SBAList

The difference between Trump & Clinton on abortion couldn't be clearer: http://www.sba-list.org/5questions  #ProLife

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CsgNWavW8AEOQqW.jpg)

http://townhall.com/tipsheet/christinerousselle/2016/09/16/trump-i-would-ban-taxpayer-funding-of-abortion-n2219313
Title: Re: Trump: I Would Ban Taxpayer Funding of Abortion
Post by: Gov Bean Counter on September 17, 2016, 01:05:13 am
Trump: I Would Ban Taxpayer Funding of Abortion
Christine Rousselle
9/16/2016 6:00:00 PM

Today, Donald Trump announced the formation of a pro-life coalition for his campaign and hired Marjorie Dannenfelser of the Susan B. Anthony's list as chairwoman. Additionally, Trump outlined a pro-life platform and a commitment to appointing a pro-life Supreme Court justice and permanently banning any taxpayer funding of abortion.

SBA List later tweeted an infographic highlighting Trump's pro-life credentials:



Susan B Anthony List
‏@SBAList

The difference between Trump & Clinton on abortion couldn't be clearer: http://www.sba-list.org/5questions  #ProLife

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CsgNWavW8AEOQqW.jpg)

http://townhall.com/tipsheet/christinerousselle/2016/09/16/trump-i-would-ban-taxpayer-funding-of-abortion-n2219313

I wonder if he ran this past Ivanka.
Title: Re: Trump: I Would Ban Taxpayer Funding of Abortion
Post by: Cripplecreek on September 17, 2016, 01:16:15 am
I wonder if he ran this past Ivanka.

Doesn't matter who he runs it past. It ain't gonna happen and we all know it.
Title: Re: Trump: I Would Ban Taxpayer Funding of Abortion
Post by: corbe on September 17, 2016, 01:17:33 am
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Title: Re: Trump: I Would Ban Taxpayer Funding of Abortion
Post by: sinkspur on September 17, 2016, 02:04:44 am
The Hyde Amendment already bans taxpayer funding of abortion.
Title: Re: Trump: I Would Ban Taxpayer Funding of Abortion
Post by: Victoria33 on September 17, 2016, 02:39:24 am
It is legal to have abortions and a supreme court isn't going to change that.  The government paying for abortions CAN be regulated by law.  They aren't paying for it outright but when they give money to Planned Parenthood, they perform abortions so that is a backhanded way of the government paying for them.

I have no idea what type Supreme Court Judge insane Trump would put forth for that court.  My guess is whoever Ivanka Trump wants. 
Title: Re: Trump: I Would Ban Taxpayer Funding of Abortion
Post by: Hoodat on September 17, 2016, 10:20:51 am
The Hyde Amendment already bans taxpayer funding of abortion.

The Hyde Amendment is a trailer that is usually (but not always) added to spending bills.  So there is no blanket ban on taxpayer funding of abortion.

Considering direct government subsidies given to abortion providers, it is crystal clear that taxpayer funding of abortion has been ongoing for quite a long time.
Title: Re: Trump: I Would Ban Taxpayer Funding of Abortion
Post by: TomSea on September 17, 2016, 01:15:37 pm
It takes an outsider and with Mike Pence on the team; the only other candidates that did anything comparable were the governors who ran, Perry, Walker, Kasich and Christie.

Trump detractors; may have backed Senators whose pro-life accomplishments are very minimal in comparison.  Of course, pro-lifers are thankful to the utmost for any help they get.

As far as I'm concerned, Principled Pro-Lifers don't look to always quash any good coming out of the ticket, especially as related to pro-life efforts.
Title: Re: Trump: I Would Ban Taxpayer Funding of Abortion
Post by: TomSea on September 17, 2016, 01:21:27 pm
Mike Pence:

Co-Sponsored or Authored 28 Pro-Life Bills in Congress

Signed 4 Pro-Life Bills into Law as Governor

Led the Charge to Defund Planned Parenthood

Donald Trump:

Supports the Pain-Capable Unborn Child Protection Act

Pledges to Appoint Pro-life Justices

Committed to Defunding Planned Parenthood

Opposes Taxpayer-Funded Abortion, Defends Conscience Freedom

https://www.sba-list.org/trump-vs-clinton

Anti-Trumpers include Planned Parenthood, already attacking Trump. I'm not on that side.

Planned Parenthood executive: Donald Trump is our ‘biggest concern’
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2016/sep/15/planned-parenthood-executive-donald-trump-our-bigg/
Title: Re: Trump: I Would Ban Taxpayer Funding of Abortion
Post by: Longmire on September 17, 2016, 01:39:26 pm
Trump is saying the right things in this regard. One assumes this includes tax-payer funding of Planned Parenthood
Title: Re: Trump: I Would Ban Taxpayer Funding of Abortion
Post by: unknown on September 17, 2016, 03:28:11 pm

Trump releases agenda for protecting unborn

« on: September 16, 2016, 03:07:44 PM »
Trump releases agenda for protecting unborn

2 key factors: Supreme Court justices, permanent ban on tax funding

http://www.wnd.com/2016/09/trump-stuns-with-release-of-pro-life-agenda/
Bob Uhnruh
Sept. 16, 2016

http://www.gopbriefingroom.com/index.php?topic=225350.new#new
Title: Re: Trump: I Would Ban Taxpayer Funding of Abortion
Post by: unknown on September 17, 2016, 04:42:40 pm

Donald Trump Calls for Permanently Banning Taxpayer Funding of Abortions

 
Steven Ertelt   Sep 16, 2016   |   9:22AM    Washington, DC
LifeNews
http://www.lifenews.com/2016/09/16/donald-trump-calls-for-permanently-banning-taxpayer-funding-of-abortions/

Donald Trump today has issued a call to make permanent the Hyde Amendment that bans almost all federal taxpayer funding of abortions and is credited with saving the lives of over 1 million Americans from abortion. Trump-‘s call comes as Hillary Clinton is campaigning in reversing Hyde and forcing Americans to fund free abortions for women with their tax dollars.
Title: Re: Trump: I Would Ban Taxpayer Funding of Abortion
Post by: skeeter on September 17, 2016, 04:48:27 pm
I would be very happy if this much progress could be made on the issue.

But then there's the issue of trumps credibility - how do we know he's telling the truth this time?

This is the cost of lying his way to the nomination.
Title: Re: Trump: I Would Ban Taxpayer Funding of Abortion
Post by: unknown on September 17, 2016, 04:49:43 pm
I would be very happy if this much progress could be made on the issue.

But then there's the issue of trumps credibility - how do we know he's telling the truth this time?

This is the cost of lying his way to the nomination.

You are correct.
Title: Re: Trump: I Would Ban Taxpayer Funding of Abortion
Post by: unknown on September 17, 2016, 04:58:22 pm
http://www.gopbriefingroom.com/index.php?topic=225441

‘I Almost Cried’: Unborn Baby ‘Salutes’ Former Marine Dad in Sonogram Image
 
http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2016/09/16/i-almost-cried-unborn-baby-salutes-former-marine-dad-in-sonogram-image/

Sep. 16, 2016
Kate Scanlon   

A Georgia couple had their day made when their 12-week-old unborn baby appeared to salute them during a recent ultrasound appointment, ABC News reported.

Mehgan Merriott and Robert Cooper, a former marine, told ABC News that during their appointment, they watched their baby raise its hand to its eyebrow.

(http://www.theblaze.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/09/Screen-Shot-2016-09-16-at-3.55.53-PM-620x345.jpg)

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Title: Re: Trump: I Would Ban Taxpayer Funding of Abortion
Post by: skeeter on September 17, 2016, 04:58:30 pm
You are correct.

If I claim to be all about the principles then it shouldn't matter if I despise the person proposing them. Credibilty becomes the only concern.
Title: Re: Trump: I Would Ban Taxpayer Funding of Abortion
Post by: unknown on September 17, 2016, 05:00:16 pm
If I claim to be all about the principles then it shouldn't matter if I despise the person proposing them. Credibilty becomes the only concern.

Credibility is a big issue with Trump.
Title: Re: Trump: I Would Ban Taxpayer Funding of Abortion
Post by: Hoodat on September 25, 2016, 03:51:17 am
Quote
Trump: I Would Ban Taxpayer Funding of Abortion

Yet he supports taxpayer funding of abortion clinics.
Title: Re: Trump: I Would Ban Taxpayer Funding of Abortion
Post by: geronl on September 25, 2016, 05:44:38 am
No he would not.

I believe nothing this evil clown says.

I haven't been wrong yet
Title: Re: Trump: I Would Ban Taxpayer Funding of Abortion
Post by: Smokin Joe on September 25, 2016, 06:31:16 am
Trump: I Would Ban Taxpayer Funding of Abortion
Christine Rousselle
9/16/2016 6:00:00 PM

Today, Donald Trump announced the formation of a pro-life coalition for his campaign and hired Marjorie Dannenfelser of the Susan B. Anthony's list as chairwoman. Additionally, Trump outlined a pro-life platform and a commitment to appointing a pro-life Supreme Court justice and permanently banning any taxpayer funding of abortion.

SBA List later tweeted an infographic highlighting Trump's pro-life credentials:



Susan B Anthony List
‏@SBAList

The difference between Trump & Clinton on abortion couldn't be clearer: http://www.sba-list.org/5questions  #ProLife



http://townhall.com/tipsheet/christinerousselle/2016/09/16/trump-i-would-ban-taxpayer-funding-of-abortion-n2219313
THis is a good step, if true.

However we are still faced with his praising Planned Parenthood for 'all the good they do.'
Money is fungible.

One taxpayer dime in one pocket means money can be moved to other things. Some of it cannot be funded without bringing fiscal benefit to all of it, and thus, taxpayer money helps to make the slaughter happen.

What's more: Medicaid funds abortion in 15 states. (State based funds) https://fundabortionnow.org/get-help/medicaid (https://fundabortionnow.org/get-help/medicaid)
Medicaid is funded by the States and the Federal Government.
While Medicaid is forbidden from using Federal money for abortion, every State funded dime freed up elsewhere in the program is free to do other things.
Title: Re: Trump: I Would Ban Taxpayer Funding of Abortion
Post by: Norm Lenhart on September 25, 2016, 06:45:20 am
However we are still faced with his praising Planned Parenthood for 'all the good they do.'
Money is fungible.

Planned Parenthood does abortion. Trump's best people forgot to tell him that it's already illegal to use taxpayer cash for abortion. This is all window dressing and you said exactly why. Money is fungible.

So all the people praising this, like trump are simply playing word games all around.

If he or his people do not know that money is fungible, and that is not credible for a billionaire, then they are unaware of current law.

If they are unaware of current law, they arent 'the best people' and thus it is incompetent of Trump to be hiring them.

No matter how one approaches this, it is a total farce.